The Wasa - a true story of scope creep
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ต.ค. 2015
- Scope creep can be fatal. The story of the Wasa warship shows how uncontrolled requirement changes killed the project manager and 53 of his user community. Learn the lessons from history, and manage scope risk on your project, if you want to avoid the same fate!
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I teach Engineering Ethics at a university. I'll be working this into my syllabus. Good job!
Thanks Day, glad you liked it and that it will be useful to you and your students.
I’m a chemical engineer and we I’m currently in a project Management program, This is beautiful thank u very much
Thanks Mundher, I'm glad you liked it.
It can be very fatal! Sometimes its best to admit failure, before people get hurt.
Yes, you're right - but people find it so hard to admit failure, don't we?!
Great video. Good work! Well, nothing has changed. This story reminds me of a lot of military projects in the USA, especially aircraft.
Exactly! I guess that's why we need to look again at these old stories, to learn what we can, and try to avoid making the same mistakes. Surely someone somewhere will learn...??!!
Why does it zoom on the UK when he writes Sweden? Is that some inside joke or just a mistake?
Well spotted TriviaBot! As a proud Englishman it seemed natural for the UK to be the centre of the map!!
Hah, I should have known!
Unfortunately, this story may have a lot less to do with scope creep than with the inability to tell the truth to authority, including admitting, "I don't know how to do that." I believe this is actually an important reason why scope ends up creeping.
You're right Scott, these are complex situations with multiple causes. What you call "the inability to tell the truth to authority" has recently been given a smart name by Prof Bent Flyvbjerg - he calls it "strategic misrepresentation". I have a different word - it's called "lying"!
"Strategic misrepresentation"...I have to remember that! I would have some sympathy for a person who lies or withholds some part of the truth from someone who doesn't want to hear it if that latter person has the power to impose serious consequences. That is, as long as harm does not come to others by lying.
Hmm, what about ethics? Some years ago I produced "The Risk Management Professionalism Manifesto", outlining what a client has a right to expect from a risk professional. I'm currently thinking about how this applies to the risk management challenge. How do you "tell the truth" when the subject matter is inherently uncertain??
It's worth pointing out that certain systems tend to enable "strategic misrepresentation" more than others. This story is a prime example of subjects living in fear of a monarch who can't handle being told no. Whether or not the King would actually have reacted badly is moot. The historical precedent of kill-the-messenger monarchies was enough. No system of government is immune to this, but some are definitely quicker than others to inspire bad behavior in engineers.
I agree, this is more an issue of poor change management rather than scope creep.
Gamers know this as "feature creep".
Developing a game typically takes several years. More if you're attempting something ground breaking in the tech.
Long story short, go watch a story/document/anayisis on the Duke Nukem Forever game.
It is quite a loathful example of "creep" on a project.
And yes, the title is wonderfully ironic.
You're right, scope creep is the same as feature creep or mission creep.
excellent video, thank you!
Thanks.
An entertaining lesson about business terms and about history! Hats off to you sir :).
Thanks Jelle, glad you liked it!
Your explanation is so good your video was added to my university course apparently under project managing!
That's amazing! I hope you and your fellow-students learn the lesson of the Wasa - avoid scope creep, even if powerful stakeholders insist!
Hubris has been mankind's constant companion as we pushed the frontiers of the possible. There is no field of engineering where we have not totally screwed up. And this ghost is not gone.
Sadly, you're right. We don't learn from the past.
Mission creep is real danger.
I agree.
Awesome video
Thanks Allen, glad you liked it.
See also: The space shuttle.
That's also a great case study, and there are lots of good videos analysing the related risks. Thanks for the recommendation.
Reminds me of the production of Duke Nukem forever
Yes, sadly there are many similar stories, right up to recent times. When will we learn?!
they shouldve arrested the King
But who gets to arrest a king? He's the boss!!!
Hello Dr David i enjoyed so much you video that i would like to offer myself as a translator to portuguese. Do you think it useful? What shall i do in order to do the translation? Cheers,
Thank you Aloysio, both for your kinds words about the video, and for your offer to act as translator. In fact we already have a translator for Portuguese (Brazilian), and all Risk Doctor Briefings are available in that language, as well as several others: see www.risk-doctor.com/rdp/briefings. Perhaps you might find something useful there.Thanks again.
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Yes, Dr David, i understand. Maybe he/she could take a look at the automatic translation of this video and implement a few improvements since it´s not so well translated in my concern. I would like to show this video to some of my students. Best Regards, Aloysio.
Hello again Aloysio. Unfortunately I have no influence over automatic translation, which is provided directly by TH-cam and not by me. You might like to look at a version of this same video in Spanish by my colleague Pablo Lledó, which is here: th-cam.com/video/ehly17E144MI/w-d-xo.html hope your students enjoy the video!David
Is the Sharpie + hand just a complete fabrication? So much of the graphic looks digital and copy/pasted.
Thanks for asking. The graphics were created using VideoScribe, and the idea is to reuse graphics throughout the story to indicate repeated characters or themes. It's free and easy, and many people find it engaging and interesting to watch. Did you not like it?
RiskDoctorVideo it looks great for free. I personally thought you paid someone to do this
A great example of why Kings and Queens don’t rule anymore. All that inbreeding.
Haha - you know I'm British, right?!!
RiskDoctorVideo No mate,I didn’t know. As I’m Australian maybe I see royalty differently.
@@doubleheadedeagle6769 She's your Queen too, you know!!
Sure is fortunate that democratically elected politicians absolutely never commit similar mistakes. Ever!
@@fnorgen Ha ha :-D
First off the Ship was called the Vasa not Wasa,and it sunk 333 year's ago not 400,I dont think you did much research.
Thanks for your comment Ralph. This video was an English translation of an original prepared in Spanish by my Argentinian colleague Pablo Lledo (www.pablolledo.com), and he did the original research. She sank on 10 August 1628, which is nearly 400 years ago. The wikipedia article has both spellings of the name, but you're right that Vasa is more common.
You can say Wasa aswell. I prefer Wasa because it looks cooler.
Just like Indian army and airforce
Sad but true, this is true of many armed forces today.
lol
Yes, it's funny - unless the same happens on your project!
@@Risk-Doctor Hmm
first time ive seen someone spell vasa wrong it aint wasa XD its vasa
Thank you Joel. You're right that Vasa is the most common spelling (although the ship was originally named "Vasen"), but Wikipedia recognises that both spellings are used en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasa_(ship). This article says that the Vasa name was adopted by the museum in the late 1980s. Sorry!!
I know and np my friend it just sounded funny to read Wasa everytime i am in Stockholm to visit my friend we go to the museum right now i cant cuz of the virus but i fokus more on the training with my bandy team edsbyns If we won this seasons elitserien as we call it in swedish dunno what the english Word for it is 😂😂
@@joelolsson4816 "Elitserien" is like "premier league". But we don't play bandy here, just ice hockey. Good luck, hope you win! Go Edsbyns IF!
RiskDoctorVideo the only hard thing that was this season was cuz there were no fans there only some mothers and fathers but no more