Gael Klebersteen Not the same factory as the Otterup was, if you want a Otterup made, get a m60, 65, 68 , or whymnot a M56A, the m56 A was made for Weatherby also. Hunters House has a few of them. . Jeg har en 65dl i .358 Norma mag, fantastisk god rifle.
TazzeOptical i sometimes find myself falling asleep to is videos which then prompts me to have to rewatch the entire thing again because i fell asleep and i want the info he brings. so yea i guess he gets 2 views per me watching 1 video
They should make a movie: "In 1942, the factory in Otterup received an order of about 800 to 1,000 rifles for the Danish coastal police attached to the coast guard. It concerned the police carbine, RPLT42. Shortly before the delivery, Danish resistance fighters stole the rifles from the factory. The factory then made nightly repairs of some of the equipment the English dropped by parachute to the resistance. This could take place as several of the employees at the plant, including Niels Larsen's sons Uffe and Fritz Schultz Larsen, were members of the resistance movement." da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schultz_%26_Larsen#2._verdenskrig
Also: "When the German occupation of Denmark occurred April 9, 1940 foreman Erhardt Jensen fired all the workers so the factory could not be used by the Germans."
Well, Denmark wasn't exactly occupied by the Germans like everybody else in Europa. The Danish civilian government stayed in place and retained some control over the country. I suspect that they ordered these rifles for this coastguard. Also stopping Jews from fleeing basically was a disaster. Pretty much every single Jew was ferried over to Sweden by Danish civilians before the Germans could deport them.
I've been interested in military rifles since I was 12. Know most of obscure variants. Never heard of this one until now. Thanks again for your unique and informative presentations.
Your danish pronunciation was pretty damn good for a foreigner Ian.. It's always interesting to hear about obscure weapons, especially if they are from your home country, patriotism and whatnot.. Keep on keeping on.. Looking forward to hearing about the WA2000.
Ian, The 1889 Belgium Mauser has the same 3 position 'safety' on the bolt. All the way right is safe and the bolt cannot be removed, all the way left is fire and straight up is safe but the bolt can still be removed. This is most likely the same on this RPLT-42.
Hi Ian. Great video👍 One small thing you schould know. The receiver is actually not case hardend. The miscoloration is due to the very hard hardening of the steel on the receiver. Resulting in the salt bluing not reacting with the steel as it would normally do. You can se the same on the S&L models 65-68 and 100 (I have them all) and even on some of the newer barrels made as a test in a harder steel. You can see the same effekt on some SIG 210 pistols.
Those 4 rear locking lugs are a nice idea. Shortens the bolt lift too. i hadn't heard of these, but i have heard of Schultz & Larsen. The loading system is interesting, but maybe a little inconvenient- no stripper clips and u have to turn the gun over twice. Fixed sights make sense for its intended usage- i wonder what they were zeroed to. I'll bet 200, but who knows. Great video as always. Thank you
Love the channel Ian! Keep up the vids coming, always interesting the guns you pick out from the auction lots. My friend inherited a Shultz & Larsen sporting rifle in 30-06 (although I do believe it was rebarrelled). After questionably marveling at the rear locking lugs we were both pleasantly surprised at the accuracy it could produce, it was a finely made rifle and knocked down quite a few California black tails.
Some pretty good and goofy things regarding firearms have come out of Scandinavia which is fun, As a Swedish guy im looking forward to the Sjögren Shotgun being released in BF1.
I really like all these videos he does on Danish firearms. The Danish may not make the greatest guns, but they are definitely interesting and well made.
they basically take off the top handgaurd and shorten the lower to save weight for carrying while hunting. here is a example. s16-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcQ_ido_4tpk92GjC9TzLA-E_aX_ubBhh8ve5uU_iUw767xLXrDl&sp=bb7ac199bb9a9d186f2aa45fb4447daa
To that you could add the modern bolt action rifle in wich the reciver is no longer a pressure bearing part, as the bolt locks directly in the barrel. Examples of this is the Mauser M03, Schultz & Larsen M97, Sauer 200+ series and probably many more. But why throw Kropatschek into the mix?
Politics. Until 1943 the Germans treated Denmark as a protectorate, and allowed the Danish government some autonomy. The Danes were still officially neutral and probably did not want to supply weapons that would be used against the Allies and to enforce Nazi race laws.
When you said about it obviously had a rotating bolt as it is a bolt action that got me wondering, are there successful bolt action designs that use another form of locking? I assume it would be more likely with straight pulls, but I suppose even with a turn bolt this could cam out a pair of flappers in the bolt head or something.
Mambo Dave In the era when the bolt gun reigned, such a design would have been adding to the overall production cost and length. Not by much mind you but a military needs its rifles yesterday and anything simpler wins out. As for why you don't really see it now that's because the Mauser design has been the quintessential final statement on the design by popular opinion. Damn near every hunting rifle uses a derivative of it.
Mambo Dave several fire arms company's use multiple lugs bolts when Colt was importing bolt action rifles under the Colt Sauer name the Weatherby rifles have 9 lugs as does the Remington model 788 line but the 788 lugs are in the rear of the receiver the 788 was a low cost line of rifles in a wild variety of Calibers 222 Remington 223 Remington 22-250 , 243 and 308 Winchester 30-30 Win and 44 Mag the Gun Magizines of the time reported that 30-30 788 would out shoot ether of the 30 30 lever actions Winchester and Marlin model 1894s
I just got a package in the mail today with Schultz and Larsen rifle parts. I was watching the Sharps and Hankins video yesterday thinking, "I wish Ian would do some videos on Schultz and Larsen rifles".
Øh forgotten weapons you might want to read up on the Danish Coastal Police, cause they where actually only a thing from the 16th of April 1940 till the 27th of June same year, where the Navy was charged by the Government to take over the task, and after that only one "coastal" cop was assigned per boat and they mainly patrolled from Hundested in the north part of Zealand to Gedser at the south part of Zealand which was towards Sweden, and it mostly stopped in 43 cause the Navy sank most of the fleet while it was in port, and it was any one trying to enter or escape Denmark they where after not only or mainly Jews.
Hey, Sorry for going off topic but I need help with identyfing this weird black powder folding/compound rifle and this channel was the only place I thought I can get any help fast. Did any of you ever see this rifle? Know anything about it, who's the manufacturer or even from what century it is? What the R.L.N on the case could stand for? This is a link to album with photos (if you don't trust this link and still want to see the photos just tell me on what hosting you want me to put them and I'll do it) imgur.com/a/boqDF Thanks for any information you can offer
As a Dane, I'm actually quite impressed by Ian's pronunciation of rigspolitiet albeit I had to hear it a couple of times before I could hear what he was saying. 😀😀
Alexander Marinin Because they were still in use with the Danish army at the time. And they were not keen on supplying a police unit that would side with the Germans.
I was going to say that the Germans needed the Krags to supply the Danish SS Divisions (5th SS Wiking and 11th SS Panzergrenadier), but all the images that I can find online of those units indicate that they were armed with either German weapons or substitute standard weapons in German calibers [I saw a picture of one Danish SS soldier with a Bergmann submachine gun]. Considering that they served on the Eastern Front with German forces, that would make more sense logistically than to retain their own national weapons. Maybe the Germans were reluctant to give the police a "military" rifle. This rifle would be an advantage over an unarmed refugee or spy, but would be slower to load and less handy than a K98 if the police turned on the Germans.
Schultz & Larsen is still producing great sporting rifles. I have one from their Victory series in 6.5x55. Fantastic rifles.
Gael Klebersteen Not the same factory as the Otterup was, if you want a Otterup made, get a m60, 65, 68 , or whymnot a M56A, the m56 A was made for Weatherby also. Hunters House has a few of them. . Jeg har en 65dl i .358 Norma mag, fantastisk god rifle.
I have the victory in 30-06. Fantastic rifle.
sometimes I just let these videos play in the background and I have no idea what Ian said but boy is it relaxing
TazzeOptical werd
TazzeOptical i sometimes find myself falling asleep to is videos which then prompts me to have to rewatch the entire thing again because i fell asleep and i want the info he brings. so yea i guess he gets 2 views per me watching 1 video
TazzeOptical He has a relaxing voice, to me anyway.
It looks so elegant. Almost like a musket.
It's the full Mannlicher stock which does that.
They should make a movie:
"In 1942, the factory in Otterup received an order of about 800 to 1,000 rifles for the Danish coastal police attached to the coast guard. It concerned the police carbine, RPLT42. Shortly before the delivery, Danish resistance fighters stole the rifles from the factory. The factory then made nightly repairs of some of the equipment the English dropped by parachute to the resistance. This could take place as several of the employees at the plant, including Niels Larsen's sons Uffe and Fritz Schultz Larsen, were members of the resistance movement."
da.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schultz_%26_Larsen#2._verdenskrig
Also: "When the German occupation of Denmark occurred April 9, 1940 foreman Erhardt Jensen fired all the workers so the factory could not be used by the Germans."
Well, Denmark wasn't exactly occupied by the Germans like everybody else in Europa. The Danish civilian government stayed in place and retained some control over the country. I suspect that they ordered these rifles for this coastguard.
Also stopping Jews from fleeing basically was a disaster. Pretty much every single Jew was ferried over to Sweden by Danish civilians before the Germans could deport them.
I've been interested in military rifles since I was 12. Know most of obscure variants. Never heard of this one until now. Thanks again for your unique and informative presentations.
I have a Danish father and I know my grandmother and Great grandfather assisted in the resistance.
Your danish pronunciation was pretty damn good for a foreigner Ian.. It's always interesting to hear about obscure weapons, especially if they are from your home country, patriotism and whatnot.. Keep on keeping on.. Looking forward to hearing about the WA2000.
Ian, The 1889 Belgium Mauser has the same 3 position 'safety' on the bolt. All the way right is safe and the bolt cannot be removed, all the way left is fire and straight up is safe but the bolt can still be removed. This is most likely the same on this RPLT-42.
It's always funny to hear non Scandinavians pronounce such words as rigspoliti. :D Great video, Ian!!
Hi Ian. Great video👍
One small thing you schould know. The receiver is actually not case hardend. The miscoloration is due to the very hard hardening of the steel on the receiver. Resulting in the salt bluing not reacting with the steel as it would normally do. You can se the same on the S&L models 65-68 and 100 (I have them all) and even on some of the newer barrels made as a test in a harder steel. You can see the same effekt on some SIG 210 pistols.
Those 4 rear locking lugs are a nice idea. Shortens the bolt lift too. i hadn't heard of these, but i have heard of Schultz & Larsen. The loading system is interesting, but maybe a little inconvenient- no stripper clips and u have to turn the gun over twice. Fixed sights make sense for its intended usage- i wonder what they were zeroed to. I'll bet 200, but who knows. Great video as always. Thank you
Love the channel Ian! Keep up the vids coming, always interesting the guns you pick out from the auction lots.
My friend inherited a Shultz & Larsen sporting rifle in 30-06 (although I do believe it was rebarrelled). After questionably marveling at the rear locking lugs we were both pleasantly surprised at the accuracy it could produce, it was a finely made rifle and knocked down quite a few California black tails.
1:08 Turns out this video was actually about Bergmanns
Some pretty good and goofy things regarding firearms have come out of Scandinavia which is fun, As a Swedish guy im looking forward to the Sjögren Shotgun being released in BF1.
I really like all these videos he does on Danish firearms. The Danish may not make the greatest guns, but they are definitely interesting and well made.
Schultz and Larsen are still in business.
A rather decent rifle. With some modifications, I would think a military force of the time would be interested.
Now this is one i never heard of. Thnx.
Thanks Ian.
Essentually an improved and strengthened Veterli with a Krag-Jorgensen magazine.
Ian, you can't just mention Bergmann and _not_ break out into a 20 minute explanation of the connection!
In a way, this rifle is a Bergmann ;)
Damn Ian you look and sound tired in this video, one of your last videos in that recording session?
I don't know how easy it is to get access to that but could you do more videos about target guns, especially how they evolved over the years?
Hey Ian. i was wondering if you knew of the types of guns that Denmark manufactured that saw military service time?
Makes me think of a weird mix of a Tikka T3 and a J.C. Higgins bolt action shotgun. Very odd duck that I'm sure makes a nice sporting rifle.
Amazing!
Not sure what "sporterized" means... @3:27 Converted to sports/hunting rifle?
they basically take off the top handgaurd and shorten the lower to save weight for carrying while hunting. here is a example. s16-us2.ixquick.com/cgi-bin/serveimage?url=http%3A%2F%2Ft1.gstatic.com%2Fimages%3Fq%3Dtbn%3AANd9GcQ_ido_4tpk92GjC9TzLA-E_aX_ubBhh8ve5uU_iUw767xLXrDl&sp=bb7ac199bb9a9d186f2aa45fb4447daa
Bergmann Connection. Couldn't resist saying Bergmann on camera again could you. *BGM>$!
nice review: Thank you Ian! What are the big families of bolt action system ? I can see: Mauser pattern (mauser 89 to 98, M1917, Arisaka, Springfield M1903...), Lee pattern (Remington-lee, lee-metford, lee-enfield...), Gewehr 88 pattern (gewehr 88, mannlicher schönauer, carcano, mauser vergueiro, Dutch mannlicher....), Gras pattern (Gras, Mosin-Nagant, lebel, Berthier...), Schmidt Rubin (model 89, 96, 11, 31), Mannlicher ( Mannlicher 86 to 95, swiss 93 mannlicher), rear locking lugs pattern (Mas 36, RPLT-42, Madsen M47), Krag pattern. ???
To that you could add the modern bolt action rifle in wich the reciver is no longer a pressure bearing part, as the bolt locks directly in the barrel. Examples of this is the Mauser M03, Schultz & Larsen M97, Sauer 200+ series and probably many more. But why throw Kropatschek into the mix?
Anyone else think it would be awesome if Ian did a dvd on some kind of grand shooting and rare peice tour??
What I'd like to know is why they didn't just use Krags, there must've been loads of those around from the Army.
Politics.
Until 1943 the Germans treated Denmark as a protectorate, and allowed the Danish government some autonomy. The Danes were still officially neutral and probably did not want to supply weapons that would be used against the Allies and to enforce Nazi race laws.
Hey Ian, have you ever noticed that a lot of these bolt action rifles around the ww2 era look very similar? lol
Ah well If they don't like it, deport them.
FYI, my house is officially a sanctuary city for the aforementioned deported rifles. ;)
HahahahahahaXD Sometimes you gotta grab em' by trigger
We need to stop selfload justice weapons from stopping the gungrab vans from coming around to deport these criminally disrepaired bolt-actions.
When you said about it obviously had a rotating bolt as it is a bolt action that got me wondering, are there successful bolt action designs that use another form of locking? I assume it would be more likely with straight pulls, but I suppose even with a turn bolt this could cam out a pair of flappers in the bolt head or something.
Yes, the 1888/90 Mannichers use a pivoting wedge to lock.
Browning Blr. Rotating bolthead.
commando552 The M1895 Lee Navy also does not have a rotating bolt.
The rear iron sight is so odd. I've never seen anything like it.
Will you ever be doing a video on the Norwegian Krag? It would be wonderful if you did. :)
It looks kinda derpy but cute. How well does it handle?
There is a story that S&L were able to manufacture faults in the rifles that they were forced to make for the Germans.
It's 5am! What are you doing up at this hour? What am I doing up at this hour?
Ian, SLOW DOWN! I only just finished your InRange video with Mac!
CheeseSteakJim Haha, these feel slow after the 5 or 6 a week he did for the last auction.
Do you ever review melee related weapons?
Hey ian,I was wondering what is the oldest gun you've ever examined.
I would like to know why more companies haven't taken on the four-lug design. It just seems to give less work/movement for the operators.
Mambo Dave In the era when the bolt gun reigned, such a design would have been adding to the overall production cost and length. Not by much mind you but a military needs its rifles yesterday and anything simpler wins out. As for why you don't really see it now that's because the Mauser design has been the quintessential final statement on the design by popular opinion. Damn near every hunting rifle uses a derivative of it.
Mambo Dave And the short answer is that the bolt requires more machining time to cut four lugs rather than a simple two or three.
Mambo Dave several fire arms company's use multiple lugs bolts when Colt was importing bolt action rifles under the Colt Sauer name the Weatherby rifles have 9 lugs as does the Remington model 788 line but the 788 lugs are in the rear of the receiver the 788 was a low cost line of rifles in a wild variety of Calibers 222 Remington 223 Remington 22-250 , 243 and 308 Winchester 30-30 Win and 44 Mag the Gun Magizines of the time reported that 30-30 788 would out shoot ether of the 30 30 lever actions Winchester and Marlin model 1894s
I just got a package in the mail today with Schultz and Larsen rifle parts. I was watching the Sharps and Hankins video yesterday thinking, "I wish Ian would do some videos on Schultz and Larsen rifles".
Early crew, what should I eat for post video breakfast?
Alan Chihuaha eggs and bacon nice and easy
lol ima having breakfast rn :D
Øh forgotten weapons you might want to read up on the Danish Coastal Police, cause they where actually only a thing from the 16th of April 1940 till the 27th of June same year, where the Navy was charged by the Government to take over the task, and after that only one "coastal" cop was assigned per boat and they mainly patrolled from Hundested in the north part of Zealand to Gedser at the south part of Zealand which was towards Sweden, and it mostly stopped in 43 cause the Navy sank most of the fleet while it was in port, and it was any one trying to enter or escape Denmark they where after not only or mainly Jews.
There's an 'l' in Schultz. ;-)
It looks like a mix between an M1 Garand & a Mosin Nagant rifle.
Video on bergmann conection please
does anyone know how rare New Zealand marked lee enfields are in america and their value?
Bergman subcontractor you say? Tell me more.
Don't know if it's just me but the picture in this video seems a little washed out.
Just what I needed before work.
Hey,
Sorry for going off topic but I need help with identyfing this weird black powder folding/compound rifle and this channel was the only place I thought I can get any help fast.
Did any of you ever see this rifle? Know anything about it, who's the manufacturer or even from what century it is? What the R.L.N on the case could stand for?
This is a link to album with photos (if you don't trust this link and still want to see the photos just tell me on what hosting you want me to put them and I'll do it)
imgur.com/a/boqDF
Thanks for any information you can offer
Never have I heard you butcher a language, like you butcher the danish XD
HAhaha exactly.
Well Danish is a very simple and primitive language with very weird pronunciations, i don't blame him.
Our language sounds PREATTY butchered anyways :P "RIGSPOLITI!"
As a Dane, I'm actually quite impressed by Ian's pronunciation of rigspolitiet albeit I had to hear it a couple of times before I could hear what he was saying. 😀😀
I would like to hear him give Dutch a go really... Very few non Dutchies get it right.
interesting, why nazis just didn't give them old danish Krags
Alexander Marinin Because they were still in use with the Danish army at the time. And they were not keen on supplying a police unit that would side with the Germans.
AFAIK the Danish army was reduced in 1940 and dismissed in 1943, so they could find few hundreds of old rifles
I was going to say that the Germans needed the Krags to supply the Danish SS Divisions (5th SS Wiking and 11th SS Panzergrenadier), but all the images that I can find online of those units indicate that they were armed with either German weapons or substitute standard weapons in German calibers [I saw a picture of one Danish SS soldier with a Bergmann submachine gun]. Considering that they served on the Eastern Front with German forces, that would make more sense logistically than to retain their own national weapons.
Maybe the Germans were reluctant to give the police a "military" rifle. This rifle would be an advantage over an unarmed refugee or spy, but would be slower to load and less handy than a K98 if the police turned on the Germans.
The Waffen-SS didn't use Krags. But the Danish branch of the Germanic-SS, the Schalburg Korps. They were used for internal security in Denmark.
www.schultz-larsenrifleclub.dk/ the info page and club for the great SL rifles.
Can you please do the Kolibri pistol? :D
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2mm_Kolibri
Sir Prize he already did
I WAITED 10 SECS ALREADY 200 EXTRA VIEWS 3 COMMENTS AND 20 LIKES... wtf :(
Lars Ulrich's favorite rifle.
lol, I have kid's video as suggestion under your video (again)
A Quisling rifle then...
Hey! Danish police! Røvhul!