Ross fitted me in i530s recently, retro loft and graphite shaft. Getting much better flight and descent angles now with a little extra distance as well. So far so good!
I like these videos with the slower swing speeds , I was surprised that 75mph was considered average , myself at 62 yrs old thought I would be lucky to be at the average but I am at the 82 to 85 mph range and don't have any problem launching either of these models so happy here !! and you are right they are launching too low , I am assuming you are using a tour ball Pro v etc. for people that like these irons but are needing more launch maybe a ball change would help like a Callaway Supersoft or something similar as it should launch higher as a two piece ball does and could mute the clicky sound of that Ping.
Good to see you going the extra mile to test clubs at the speed of an average golfer, not many in the TH-cam world do. I play the i525 for almost 2 years now and love the,m, did try out the old Mizuno pro 225 but that’s a tag too compact for my liking despite a slightly better feel, interesting to note you said it’s the other way around in this generation, sound like it’s down to preference between these two.
Thanks Ricky! We always like to do stuff in depth! And yeah absolutely, the performance between these 2 is remarkably close. So looks and feels will come into it a lot
Great video. The COG of both of these means they will launch the ball higher which for the right swing will result in high shots with decent land angles. I recently went for a fitting and tried all sorts of different head and shaft combinations. I ended up with i530’s modus pro shafts and I’m delighted with them.
Yeah COG plays a small part but loft is by far the biggest factor in launch, so I would still class these as relatively low launching irons. But that's not too say they aren't brilliant, because they absolutely are. They just need to for the player well and there will be loads of golfers out there that these irons will be amazing for
@@epgolfstudios the loft on the 7 iron is 29 deg so quite strong but if you hit a really high ball (which I do) then the landing angle will still stop the ball quickly. Keep up the good videos. I’d love to see a matchup between the new Vokeys and the S159’s..
@@derekturner744 absolutely yes. And yeah I never really do much with wedges tbh as the head to heads are just a bit boring 😂 if you have a 54* degree Vokey Vs 54* S159 the numbers would be identical. So when it comes to wedges its all just about getting the right bounce and grind for the player and the versatility needs. And some manufacturers might just have better options for you than others
I have had zero issues getting a nice high ball flight with stopping power. Trackman stats 9irom - 75mph - Land Angle 50.5* 8iron- 77mph - Land Angle 49.9* 7iron - 77mph- Land Angle 46.9* 6iron - 78mph - Land Angle 41* 5iron - 79mph - Land Angle 40* I did notice on a previous, while swinging my 6i at 85mph, Land Angle increased to 43.1*
@@epgolfstudios fair point Ross. Are your 8 brands at similar price points though? If so, that’s where Wilson is nice to have as they often perform similarly to the “leading” brands but can save people a few bucks - important in a “cost of living criss”. Love your videos, and I think I’ve barely missed once since I discovered your channel. Keep up the great work mate
I was getting great height on the Pings when I was testing the club, my 7 swing speed is around 85, so both clubs may be more suitable for a little higher swing players.
@@starks1974 yeah they would be for sure, and as i mention on the video how you deliver the club will play a massive part too. Swing speed is only one part of the equation 👌
It was more the feel off the face. The Ping just felt it exploded off the face and just made you feel good. Which I'm sure some won't like, which is absolutely fine. The 245 to me just felt a bit duller and deader off the face.
Im a 12hcp playing mizuno old blades. Im looking for new irons: distance is not a problem, need forgiveness but also enough spin to stop the ball in tiny greens. Wich 3-5 models should I be looking to? Thanks! I love your vids!
Could be a lot of things that's causing it. I find a lot of the time it's strong grip and/or taking the club away closed with a lack of loft in the back swing. Try and get so the toe is up in the air when the shaft is a first parallel in the takeaway, don't try and keep the face pointing at the ball and don't worry about it matching your spine angle. Then turn to the top trying to keep that 'open face' feel. Then in the downswing just feel like you cast the club and almost a scooby/wristy sensation. If you do all those you should get some loft on the club
Yup that would be a very close head to head, the numbers would be super similar. It's just another P790 basically isn't it 😂 not much difference between them all when they are playing the same loft
I am around 70-72 mph swing speed with 7i so around that 100-103 mph ball speed. I lack height and spin because I like to draw the ball. play to around a 7 or 8 cap and iron play isn't the best so I like a bit of help. The Callaway Smoke HL iron with its weaker lofts helped and their stock steel shaft is an Elevate 85g was a good fit. I am just not a Callaway fan. So the search continues. Mizuno JPX923 Hot Metal HL is another good one but a bigger profile. if you like a smaller profile the Srixon ZX5 is a really high launcher of the ball. it won a fitting for me last year and was the only iron to get over 70' peak height (out of it, the i230, g430, ZX4, T350)
75 MPH Swing speed players would-should not be players either of these Irons IMO. Like others have said I think you must have some weak players coming in your studio if you consider 75 MPH as average.
@@TZOID08 75 - 80 IS average on the spectrum of every golfer out there. It's not what I see it's just the facts. Same as around 90mph with driver is average. But I do agree I wouldn't fit people swinging this slowly into these irons unless they had the delivery type where they were adding loft at impact. Which I do see fairly regularly tbh.
Ross fitted me in i530s recently, retro loft and graphite shaft. Getting much better flight and descent angles now with a little extra distance as well. So far so good!
@@garethbryant6457 hey Gareth! Brilliant, really glad to hear they are going well👌👌
This is exactly what I needed!
These are so informative to watch...keep up the great work!
@@green6852000 thanks! Will do 🙌👍
I like these videos with the slower swing speeds , I was surprised that 75mph was considered average , myself at 62 yrs old thought I would be lucky to be at the average but I am at the 82 to 85 mph range and don't have any problem launching either of these models so happy here !! and you are right they are launching too low , I am assuming you are using a tour ball Pro v etc. for people that like these irons but are needing more launch maybe a ball change would help like a Callaway Supersoft or something similar as it should launch higher as a two piece ball does and could mute the clicky sound of that Ping.
Great review, something I could relate to
Good to see you going the extra mile to test clubs at the speed of an average golfer, not many in the TH-cam world do. I play the i525 for almost 2 years now and love the,m, did try out the old Mizuno pro 225 but that’s a tag too compact for my liking despite a slightly better feel, interesting to note you said it’s the other way around in this generation, sound like it’s down to preference between these two.
Thanks Ricky! We always like to do stuff in depth! And yeah absolutely, the performance between these 2 is remarkably close. So looks and feels will come into it a lot
Great video. The COG of both of these means they will launch the ball higher which for the right swing will result in high shots with decent land angles. I recently went for a fitting and tried all sorts of different head and shaft combinations. I ended up with i530’s modus pro shafts and I’m delighted with them.
Yeah COG plays a small part but loft is by far the biggest factor in launch, so I would still class these as relatively low launching irons. But that's not too say they aren't brilliant, because they absolutely are. They just need to for the player well and there will be loads of golfers out there that these irons will be amazing for
@@epgolfstudios the loft on the 7 iron is 29 deg so quite strong but if you hit a really high ball (which I do) then the landing angle will still stop the ball quickly. Keep up the good videos. I’d love to see a matchup between the new Vokeys and the S159’s..
@@derekturner744 absolutely yes. And yeah I never really do much with wedges tbh as the head to heads are just a bit boring 😂 if you have a 54* degree Vokey Vs 54* S159 the numbers would be identical. So when it comes to wedges its all just about getting the right bounce and grind for the player and the versatility needs. And some manufacturers might just have better options for you than others
Mizuno Pro 245s, for me, have better sound and feel.
The pings are rocket ships, love mine!
Yeah they are! Such a good iron. (For the right person) 👌
I got fitted for Jpx 923forged with the 950gh neo shaft. Its a great shaft
That shaft really impressed me. Just wish the label was smaller
Yeah brilliant shaft for so many golfers 👌
What are the odds I find a UK page, reviewing clubs im interested in, and at my home course in the middle of Pennsylvania 😂
I have had zero issues getting a nice high ball flight with stopping power. Trackman stats
9irom - 75mph - Land Angle 50.5*
8iron- 77mph - Land Angle 49.9*
7iron - 77mph- Land Angle 46.9*
6iron - 78mph - Land Angle 41*
5iron - 79mph - Land Angle 40*
I did notice on a previous, while swinging my 6i at 85mph, Land Angle increased to 43.1*
Would love to see a Wilson fitting. Nobody except AG seem to stock them
We may feature them at some point but we already fit 8 brands, which is really an unnecessary amount 😂 so not planning on adding any more brands tbh
@@epgolfstudios fair point Ross. Are your 8 brands at similar price points though? If so, that’s where Wilson is nice to have as they often perform similarly to the “leading” brands but can save people a few bucks - important in a “cost of living criss”. Love your videos, and I think I’ve barely missed once since I discovered your channel. Keep up the great work mate
I was getting great height on the Pings when I was testing the club, my 7 swing speed is around 85, so both clubs may be more suitable for a little higher swing players.
@@starks1974 yeah they would be for sure, and as i mention on the video how you deliver the club will play a massive part too. Swing speed is only one part of the equation 👌
Great video but maybe show us a couple with each at your speed!!
I did but decided not to put that in the vid. They flew 200 yards 😂 they go absolutely miles
Nice!!!
Absolute beautiful shots with the 245 and says “it doesn’t feel as fun” 😂 noooo, hitting beautiful shots is the fun. Boring golf is fun golf.
It was more the feel off the face. The Ping just felt it exploded off the face and just made you feel good. Which I'm sure some won't like, which is absolutely fine. The 245 to me just felt a bit duller and deader off the face.
Im a 12hcp playing mizuno old blades. Im looking for new irons: distance is not a problem, need forgiveness but also enough spin to stop the ball in tiny greens. Wich 3-5 models should I be looking to? Thanks! I love your vids!
How are u getting so much dynamic loft?? I'm in the 18-19 range. Dang
With a 7 iron?!? That's not good at all 😂
Ya and when I search how to increase I don't find anything. Everything on how to decrease
Could be a lot of things that's causing it. I find a lot of the time it's strong grip and/or taking the club away closed with a lack of loft in the back swing. Try and get so the toe is up in the air when the shaft is a first parallel in the takeaway, don't try and keep the face pointing at the ball and don't worry about it matching your spine angle. Then turn to the top trying to keep that 'open face' feel. Then in the downswing just feel like you cast the club and almost a scooby/wristy sensation. If you do all those you should get some loft on the club
What about these two vs pxg gen 7 p?
Yup that would be a very close head to head, the numbers would be super similar. It's just another P790 basically isn't it 😂 not much difference between them all when they are playing the same loft
What iron(s) would you suggest for average swing speeds to get higher peak height and steeper descent angle? Thanks.
Will be a great video coming out soon for you to watch which answers this question. But either i230 or P770 👍
I am around 70-72 mph swing speed with 7i so around that 100-103 mph ball speed. I lack height and spin because I like to draw the ball. play to around a 7 or 8 cap and iron play isn't the best so I like a bit of help. The Callaway Smoke HL iron with its weaker lofts helped and their stock steel shaft is an Elevate 85g was a good fit. I am just not a Callaway fan. So the search continues. Mizuno JPX923 Hot Metal HL is another good one but a bigger profile. if you like a smaller profile the Srixon ZX5 is a really high launcher of the ball. it won a fitting for me last year and was the only iron to get over 70' peak height (out of it, the i230, g430, ZX4, T350)
Notice the dots for face data with Quad are square, better or worse than dots and if so where did you get them?
No just me being unorganised and not ordering more and running out 😂 so just cut up the tabs that are left from the circles. Work just as well 👌
😂 I order dots from Amazon and know a local fitter gets them printed
75 MPH Swing speed players would-should not be players either of these Irons IMO. Like others have said I think you must have some weak players coming in your studio if you consider 75 MPH as average.
@@TZOID08 75 - 80 IS average on the spectrum of every golfer out there. It's not what I see it's just the facts. Same as around 90mph with driver is average. But I do agree I wouldn't fit people swinging this slowly into these irons unless they had the delivery type where they were adding loft at impact. Which I do see fairly regularly tbh.