A conversation about autocracy and optimism | Anne Applebaum| Buitenhof

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  • @mandjevantichelaar
    @mandjevantichelaar 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

    Great call for action, thanks for sharing with us in the NL!

    • @STEVE555-
      @STEVE555- 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      mand

    • @gaspakseppie
      @gaspakseppie 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      A predictable view of opinion y a progressive academic with no empathy at all for the profound worries of ordinary people. Autocracy is also caused by the too large influence on society and politics by the well educated and established upper classes.

    • @STEVE555-
      @STEVE555- 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@gaspakseppie profound worries of ordinary people are being mobilized by populists for their own gain, dumba$$

    • @mandjevantichelaar
      @mandjevantichelaar 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @@gaspakseppie maybe you are right… I am not sure to be honest. But I am not a too big of a fan of autocracy’s and neither should one be who values their freedoms, so remaining complacent and silent is not an option. Trying harder to have the discussion on running democracies is one to have, I guess. Let’s do that

  • @Wittevlokken22
    @Wittevlokken22 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Clearly she also has a certain bias, which we all have. But she does have some great points especially considering the failings of larger institution like the UN but also about the western civilization being to complacent. We have forgotten what it is to live under a dictator or what a real world war looks like. We can't imagine anymore that it would happen or that it would affect us, but that is what everyone thinks up until the moment that shit actually hits the fan and you have to face reality.
    I would say even here in the Netherlands we are very susceptible with Geert Wilders getting so many votes even though he dislikes free press, free courts, the parlement. For god sake his party only has one member which is himself. If that doesn't scream autocrat that I don't know what does. but still people give him a chance.
    It seems we are doomed to repeat our mistakes.

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      does she has a certain bias ?
      or did she investigated it for a long time ?

    • @ben-atlas-nietvandaag
      @ben-atlas-nietvandaag 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It is precisely Mr. Wilders who is the product of an unfree and undemocratic society, was once a society.
      You are ignoring a lot.

    • @wulsjuhh
      @wulsjuhh 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pietpiekstra-sl1vrbiased for sure

    • @alumpyhorse
      @alumpyhorse 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      and the role of the media, especially corporate media in the US. They are responsible for spreading this jewel at 11:25 -
      the interviewer’s response “it’s being published” is everything we need to know about the role that legacy media has played in the ascent of authoritarianism and fascism in the US.
      If it’s raining outside, you don’t present both sides about why it’s raining. It’s just raining.

    • @deeznutz8320
      @deeznutz8320 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Imagine saying Free Press free judging😂😂😂
      Its all in the hands of progressives absolute bellend

  • @Harry-Hartmann
    @Harry-Hartmann 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    A Very interesting Video 👍🏻

  • @alumpyhorse
    @alumpyhorse 17 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    11:25 the interviewer’s response “it’s being published” is everything we need to know about the role that legacy media has played in the ascent of authoritarianism and fascism in the US.
    If it’s raining outside, you don’t present both sides about why it’s raining. It’s just raining.

  • @bluelola4480
    @bluelola4480 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    How is the western press free?

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Do you think the russians or chinese are able to watch this ?

    • @dimitrioskantakouzinos8590
      @dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@pietpiekstra-sl1vr Piet, do you think Buitenhof ever puts on a critic of Western foreign policy? No. Just neocons like Anne Appelbaum.

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 then prove it

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 prove that.
      Anne Applebaum did.

    • @ben-atlas-nietvandaag
      @ben-atlas-nietvandaag 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 Navalny did that, and Zelensky and the Ukrainian people show that you have a duty to stand up to it.

  • @WaIter4045
    @WaIter4045 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Axis of Evil: Iran, North-Korea, Russia, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua, Syria, Myanmar, China...and yes Hungary 🤣

  • @reinout4872
    @reinout4872 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Bang voor free speech internet en AI hahaha ah

  • @thieu038
    @thieu038 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Orange man bad

  • @wulsjuhh
    @wulsjuhh 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Trump Derangement Syndrome is strong in this specimen

    • @deeznutz8320
      @deeznutz8320 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Jewish people are very fickle with people they cant control

  • @AntoineAnpan
    @AntoineAnpan 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    This woman is a big partisan, she takes Trumps words out of context and at the same time deminishes what Kamala and Biden say in terms of inflamatory rhetoric

    • @piroska5552
      @piroska5552 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      No,you are wrong! Trump is actually the context himself

    • @Iiefkleinkonijntje
      @Iiefkleinkonijntje 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This woman shows that thug countries are siding each other, learn each other how to dodge sanctions, eradicate opposition and they extradite each others dissidents

    • @Iiefkleinkonijntje
      @Iiefkleinkonijntje 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      She shows that thug nations are siding each other teach each other how to dodge sanctions eradicate opposition and they extradite each others dissidents

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      listen to the waterloo speach . you can hear trump litteraly say this.

    • @dimitrioskantakouzinos8590
      @dimitrioskantakouzinos8590 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@piroska5552 Come again? You are not very coherent.

  • @kristafluit3042
    @kristafluit3042 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

    On the point about migrants and voting: Isn't it the case that migrants eventually become citizens, and that that's something the Biden administration has been doing? I get that illegal immigrants being able to vote instantly is not serious, but if they get a citizenship after a couple of years, they are able to vote and do more so on the Democratic party...

  • @hansrijke8477
    @hansrijke8477 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    But China andRussia don,t have hundreds basis in the world like you have to control your wishes !

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they actually do. wagner in nort africa russians in syria chinese all around the Indian ocean etc.

    • @lichtloper
      @lichtloper 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      You do not see the 1000nds of infiltrants from Xina and ruSSia in EU or elsewhere, but that doesn't mean there aren't

  • @renethielemans4438
    @renethielemans4438 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Mrs. Applebaum names the U.S. as the largest democracy in the world, but does not indicate the price the citizen pays for this. The democracy that the people in the U.S. experience is limited to the elite who are allowed to pull the strings, in other words it is not an attractive example. For the U.S. democracy is a concept to oppress other nations and regions and thus hinder its own development. If democracy were the ideal concept to govern every country well, a majority of the world's population would strive for it. There are now countries where all energy goes to good education, health care and housing and reject the political spectacle of the U.S.

    • @Iiefkleinkonijntje
      @Iiefkleinkonijntje 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Name those countries. Your definition of good education is? Good health care as a trade off to less freedom of speech and civil rights?

    • @Iiefkleinkonijntje
      @Iiefkleinkonijntje 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Good health care as a trade off to Iess freedom of speech and civil rights I bet

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      so the points you are making are all republican policies, who are now trying to turn the us in an autocracy.
      ever heard of a famous university from a democracy ?
      do they have good healthcare in russia ?

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      all the policy's you are mentioning are from the republica party.
      who are now trying to take it all over and make the us into an autocracy.
      are there famous university's in dictatorial countries?
      do they have freedom and a good economy in these countries ?

    • @pietpiekstra-sl1vr
      @pietpiekstra-sl1vr 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      If democracy were the ideal concept to govern every country well,
      why are Ukraine , Geogia and Moldova fighting so hard for it then ?