Why Spirituality can be Dangerous for me.

Continuing on from "Why Lucid Dreaming can be Dangerous for me".
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[@HeadspaceSkateboards]

Interesting video bro. Its cool to hear your perspective. I can relate

[@Slipping_thru_the_Seams]

this is very relatable. im very interested in spirituality though and kind of scrambling to find a way to implement it into my life but i might have to 'resign' to a kind of taoist type of approach, or to just believing in god without ever understanding what god might want or be trying to do. i still love divination and tarot though and sometimes synchronicities feel really poignant. i try not to put too much meaning in that and just appreciate how it feels.

[@jonwalker4406]

Thanks as always, great to see you :)

[@slightlyinfernal3415]

for me it's connected since my head-mate takes the form of a god, as a child i just assumed it to be spiritual, that being said we are very aware now that there are psychological elements at play that needs to be addressed, but the spiritual dose help me feel valid since i don't fit the DID/OSDD mold and can feel very "wrong" in those spaces so when self doubt hits me i can view it though a more spiritual lens, plus i know it sounds silly but it can help my dissociation to think of him as more magical.
but yeah i fully agree that it can be a problem for some, like with spiritually in general, sometimes it help sometime it doesn't.
as always lovely to hear your thoughts :) thank you for sharing

[@Slipping_thru_the_Seams]

hi, i know its been 2 years since you wrote this, i just really wanna say that id love to know how you keep your balance with magical/godly headmates?
is there much reverence or are you just like whatever/chill about it?
how much of their input do you take into account with making decisions, what kind of role does their magical nature play in that?
is there any clairvoyance/clairaudience or similar things involved and what would you do if some claim is made that then falls through?
do you know of any resources on this topic?
this is just for my personal reference, its absolutely totally cool if you are uncomfortable answering this, feel free to just ignore this comment! either way, thanks for writing your original comment, its good to know life like this is possible. wishing you all the best!

[@slightlyinfernal3415]

@@Slipping_thru_the_Seams Hi no problem at all :D since he has always acted as a comfort so i always felt safe, the "story" was that he was here to protect me, but other then that very down to earth, i remeber telling my terapist about what he helped with like getting to school and homework and such and she commented that he was kinda like a father figur, so not much reverence but some authurty i guss :p
as for magical stuff he was mostly telling me about how the energy connected with humans, not much for prediction, he is very normal when speaking to other people,
when i do rituals and stuff i always feel him near, and i do repect him alot, but nowadays since my system has grown he is mostly in the baggrund, sitting on his throne innerworld :p
hope that answered all your questions, feel free to ask more ^^

[@Slipping_thru_the_Seams]

@@slightlyinfernal3415 thank you, that's very illuminating! and he sounds pretty cool :)💝

[@ghostsinthegraveyard5766]

Psalm 23:4 ask your headmates what they think.
Hope you are able to find some light in your dark

[@gengarsbutt]

I feel quite disconnected to reality too. It's not that I have voices or delusions of any sorts, sorry if it's wrong to call them that, but still that's the feeling accompanying me most of my recent time. I guess I didn't really have a point to saying this besides sharing.
Nice story, it made for a good listening. Also, there's the yin and yang symbol in the thumbnail, deriving from taoism. I don't know if you know it, it's not too holy figurine-y, more like hey-shit's-happening-but-with-a-flow. Dunno if you care for it, but it was worth mine checking out it

[@thegreateggort1641]

I feel like I’m the same as you, I don’t hear voices (though I do sort of get delusions that freak me out), but I feel disconnected from reality, or like I could easily lose track of what’s real and what’s imagined. That has terrified for a bit, this just started happening recently. There’s no point to my comment either, I’m just relating to you.

[@gengarsbutt]

@@thegreateggort1641 Thank you, now i feel a bit more related

[@thegreateggort1641]

@@gengarsbutt yeah it feels good to know there are some others who are experiencing similar things as I am. I legit have been worried about going insane and being locked up, but reading about people with DID and schizophrenia makes me realize if they’re (rightfully) not getting locked up, then I certainly won’t be, or I don’t think I should be anyway.
Just trying to say that I feel like less of an odd person when there’s other similar people who can relate to me.

[@gengarsbutt]

@@thegreateggort1641 of course dude, no need to stress over it, just remember dumbledore's words "just because it's only in your head doesn't mean it's not real" or sth alike

[@thegreateggort1641]

Nice, got an upload from you and Giz in the same day, what luck!
This is the first time I can relate to you as much as I can right now. A little over a month ago I stayed up for a measley forty hours or so, and somehow that made something in my mind break. I don’t hear voices, but I do occasionally get scary delusions, and some days I’m terrified of getting sucked into my mind and not be able to escape. It’s gotten so bad I’m scared of going to sleep and even dreaming, which is sad because that pretty much means lucid dreaming is a no go for me now. Just like you, for the past few weeks a good chunk of reality hasn’t felt real, neither has anyone else. I’ve gone down a ton of batshit crazy spiritual roads and dived fully into them, and I have to wonder if that coupled with me staying up plus all the stress I’ve been dealing with for the past couple months, had caused me to nearly go into psychosis. Whether I did or not I don’t know, but I’m still reeling from it and trying to get my bearings. I have a new found empathy for what you have to deal with every day. I never knew how unsettling it could be to not have a solid grip on reality. Suddenly it feels like I don’t have a home anywhere, but I know I do, and I’m trying to fight my way back to it. Hopefully my therapist can help me work through all this, and maybe I can get back to some normalcy.

[@howdareyou5800]

damn it bro, you made me realize I have not receive any Giz video notification!!! I am still sub to his channel but dunno why youtube hides his content :(

[@thegreateggort1641]

@@howdareyou5800 huh, I don’t know either. He hasn’t uploaded a ton anyway, he only uploaded three days ago, and the video before that was uploaded back in October. He uploads very little sadly, although he streams more often than he uploads, so I recommend following his twitch channel, his name on there is literally just GizEdwards.

[@howdareyou5800]

Let me ask you:
If you do know that in dreams we see our mind works in a way that 'what one knows is the "real" (projection of memory/thought)' and therefore one has the risk that even asking the sub mind a question is knowledge meaning the collection of dogmas this society has fixed since we were very lil to the point we dont realize it was a fixed in our knowledge/memory/sense of what one is(the me), so then we cant we no question what we know in our "non sub"/conscuouss mind?
I mean in an abstract way that applies for everyone.
Not in your specific case, schizophrenia, that because I am an old follower/fan know the word, you said it in other videos, I also have a "psycho pathology" called Asperger/autism spectrum, I say it because you say 'my own reality' but one thing is objective reality and another the psychological or subjective reality. If you can measure it its objective, if you cant measure it, it is subjective, like thoughts or feelings, you cant measure one or the other, but thinking itself is the act of measuring, objectivity.
Psychology says if he process or the action hurts you in anyway or hurts others, then it is a psycho pathology (one of three criteria to say it) but you say that in your particular case that hurts you, absolutely right, but the majority of the people are not hurt, as in your specific case, because of the imbalance in the chemistry of your brain, is it a gift or a blessing? that is not the point, the point is that what you are saying a)its conditioned and b)is the exception not the (objective) rule.