I understand Mustafa wanting to defend his mother, who wouldn't if their own father is making her suffer? But this move probably planted the seeds of his eventual assassination and Hurrem beginning to see Mustafa as a MAJOR threat to her and her children. Mustafa was old enough to be wise to hold his tongue and read the room (Hurrem was nearly assassinated, OF COURSE she'd be crying).
I agree. One thing everyone should understand is that, Suleyman is a father and a ruler too. Also, they have a culture of having multiple wives. There will always be a favorite.
@@ΔημΣΚ Because she is a dramatic, toxic and has a victim mindset as if she is innocent. Also, she has a strong entitlement for herself acting like a Miss Universe
Mahidevran lies again and pits her son against his father. Good grief. OTOH Mustafa confronting Sulieman over favoritism of Hurrem was rich, considering how favored and spoiled rotten Mustafa was his entire life by every person inside and outside the palace.
Honestly Mahidevran doomed Mustafa by using him as her shield and emotional support. By the time he was in his own palace and she was trying to gove him good advice he was already set in his ways and his relationship to fragile to hold him up. Hurrem on the other hand did everything in her power to make sure her children had strong relationships with there father.
Бедная махидевран сколько она настрадалась из за хюрем змеи этой ну а кому ещё пожаловаться кроме сына а эта ведьма султану постоянно жаловалась на всех ведьма она хитрая а султан подкаблучник
Hürrem, by comparison, holds an absolute expectation of this and makes it clear to her children, but it isn't always the case. There are some early hints to Bayezid's later rebellion while he's still young and Mihrimah learns how to issue challenges towards Suleiman, although it's much safer for her to do so and emulates her mother's gentler tactics more often than not.
@@Redluna32 Yep anytime one her kids tryed to challenge Suleiman her told them off vs Mahidevran who stood back and smiled. By the time Mustafa was grown and she actually tried to give him good advice he was to set in his ways and constantly made the worst choices possible.
@@CrimsonAngelWinges What would always frustrate me is that, more often than not, Mustafa would charge off to do these things, triggered by Mahidevran, and she would weep about how either he and or herself couldn't bear to face such punishment. Like, these are...the consequences of your actions? By comparison, Hürrem's children might have had their moments of rebellion, but she made it clear it wasn't expected of them and that she actively disapproved.
@@Redluna32 Hurrem actively worked to keep all of her children out of harem politics. In season 3 B when Mihrimah starts getting involved in all of the harem drama she has to force her way past her mother to do it. Yet Mahidevran tossed Mustafa in head first because she had already ready been using him as her emotional support and human shield from around the time he was five. She always cried in front of him making him solely responsible for her happiness vs Hurrem who actively avoids crying in front of her children.
How can anyone like Mahidevran after this??? She caused her son to overstep and disrespect his father over a lie. Hurrem did not corner her, she went to Hurrem's room. Hurrem didnt thregen her, she wanted to taunt Hurrem to make herself feel better and when Hurrem didn't back down she resorted to violence. The Sultan caught her and made her apologize, she's lucky that's all he did. After all Hurrem is the one sitting there with a burned face. Mustafa was way out of line and will continue cross the line with Hurrem. As a Prince and heir to the throne there's rules to follow and Mustafa never followed the rules. I could never see Hurrem's sons being disrespectful to Mahidevran, they were raised right and knew to respect their elders.
He never said that to Mehmed, in a similar scenario when he had a sword to Mehmed's throat he told him 'I had a vision of you (as a baby) sleeping on my throne, may God give you a long life' he all but told him right there he was his heir.
I’m sorry but I don’t agree with Mustafa. I get her wants to protect his mother but he’s shown where his loyalties lie. He has shown his father the Sultan multiple times that he’s loyal to his mother. He’s also shown he has no problem disrespecting the Sultans wife.
Mustafa's not too smart ... wasn't brought up to be a good leader and hence a sultan. Mahidrevan was also not smart to use Mustafa to go against Suleyman and Hureem. Suleyman hadn't chosen his hier yet ....
@el-hakimdesignandcontracti6437 We live in a completely different cultural context. What matters in this historical context is what was considered correct and acceptable in the Ottoman Empire, under Süleyman. Loyalty to Süleyman took absolute priority. And even a prince was doing something very unacceptable if they did what Mustafa did in this situation: Question the Sultan's sense of justice as well as his ability to rule. We are entitled to our opinions, of course, but we must remember that mentalities and traditions in that time were very different from those of the 21st century.
He said wrong, he should never talk to his father about his fathers wife when defending his mother who's wrong. He didn't know the whole story and stormed a Sultanas quarters and demanded respect for his liar mother. This drew a further wedge between father and son. Suleiman caughet Mahidevran with her hand raised to smack him wifes already burnt face. An apology was not enough and to be honest Hurrem didn't seem to want her apology!!!
This constant weeping and complaining in front of her son is definitely the worst thing about Mahidevran's character. I just can't stand watching it, makes me want to slap her.
Mustafa did right in standing up for his mother by telling his father the problem which doesn’t mean he’s not loyal to his father. These people who say he’s not loyal to his father didn’t watch the whole series. Mustafa loved his father and was so loyal to him that he even sacrificed his life, knowing that his father, who knew nothing of Hurrem and Rustem’s plot to slander and create a scenario to eliminate Mustafa, was going to kill him. Mustafa was loyal to his father till the end.
@@ΔημΣΚ No, not at all. Hürrem might have grown to be the senior ranking woman in the dynasty, but she didn't outrank şehzade, nor would have expected to.
Wow mahidevran is such a bad girl to teach Mustafa these words doesn't she know that hurrem kissed her skirt and apologies her infront of everyone and she can't even say a simple sorry she is using her son against him and hurrem thank goodness valide sultan comforted her go valide sultan!!!!!!!!!
Mahidevran killed her own son by constantly complaining & crying, pittying herself. He was spoiled & used by his own mother for her interests. As they say....yazak
Mustafa is my least favorite character he is a coward that hides behind his mother and secretly hates his siblings. He believes that he deserves everything.
@@drfhgs428 true. Frankly, I just don't get it. If Mirimah was the one having this kind of talk with her father, everyone would have praised her for being a loyal daughter, who's defending her mother.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ Yes I don't get it either. Some are saying Shah, Nurbanu, Firuze are evil witches, snakes and etc, while if it was Hurrem who was doing bad things, for example plotting or killing as she did(in the show) or other similar things as they did, she is consider as a queen and she is always rightful about it and she is praised.
@@drfhgs428 ikr. There's always an excuse for Hurrem and those working with or for her. As if they're paragons of righteousness and everyone owes them nothing but loyalty and obedience
I get that they were all hostile towards hurrem, but what she did to suleiyman was far worse than what happened to her. She took his best friend, mother, sisters, and even his eldest son away from him and then she claims she loves him??
@@sunnybananny5737 I’m not saying hurrem is bad, trust me she’s my favourite but just saying that every character in this series is portrayed as a selfish human. Who claims one thing but is devoted only to their own self interests. Hurrem is no exception.
To be fair, her whole family was taken away from her. Besides Ayşe Hafsa's death was an accident, Ibrahim and Süleyman's sisters were hoisted by their own petards and her own kids were in danger if Mustafa took power. That's not to claim that Hürrem is faultless by any means, but the 'she is the root of all evil narrative' isn't accurate.
Mustafa is my most favourite character and actor in this series and real ottoman ❤ the most deserving Prince ❤❤
My answer to Mustafa, "Love conquers all." In every rule there will always be an exemption, that is LOVE.
spoken like a real simp
I understand Mustafa wanting to defend his mother, who wouldn't if their own father is making her suffer? But this move probably planted the seeds of his eventual assassination and Hurrem beginning to see Mustafa as a MAJOR threat to her and her children. Mustafa was old enough to be wise to hold his tongue and read the room (Hurrem was nearly assassinated, OF COURSE she'd be crying).
I agree. One thing everyone should understand is that, Suleyman is a father and a ruler too. Also, they have a culture of having multiple wives. There will always be a favorite.
His mother is just as bad so I don't feel srry for her one bit, she deserves everything she gets.
@@denisepittas1856 Doesn't matter what you think of Mahidevran, Mustafa loves his mother and will protect her to the best of his ability.
No one likes mahidevran she did iy
@@ΔημΣΚ Because she is a dramatic, toxic and has a victim mindset as if she is innocent. Also, she has a strong entitlement for herself acting like a Miss Universe
The suleyman and mustafa moments are just the sweetest
You mean the darkest 😂😂😂, he ended up killing him
Mahidevran, this chick had no honor. Harming the relationship between her son and her son's father just to stick it to Hurrem.
Хюрем надо было казнить
Mahidevran lies again and pits her son against his father. Good grief. OTOH Mustafa confronting Sulieman over favoritism of Hurrem was rich, considering how favored and spoiled rotten Mustafa was his entire life by every person inside and outside the palace.
@Dreamfyre 😂
Yes I can't stand mahidevran anymore
Honestly Mahidevran doomed Mustafa by using him as her shield and emotional support. By the time he was in his own palace and she was trying to gove him good advice he was already set in his ways and his relationship to fragile to hold him up. Hurrem on the other hand did everything in her power to make sure her children had strong relationships with there father.
Бедная махидевран сколько она настрадалась из за хюрем змеи этой ну а кому ещё пожаловаться кроме сына а эта ведьма султану постоянно жаловалась на всех ведьма она хитрая а султан подкаблучник
The difference between Hurrem's kids and Mustafa is, they don't argue with their Father and Mother.
They obey the Padisah and they think of their own.
True. That's why Mustafa and later unfortunately Bayezid died/ killed because poor innocent Bayzid followed fool Mustafa.
Hürrem, by comparison, holds an absolute expectation of this and makes it clear to her children, but it isn't always the case. There are some early hints to Bayezid's later rebellion while he's still young and Mihrimah learns how to issue challenges towards Suleiman, although it's much safer for her to do so and emulates her mother's gentler tactics more often than not.
@@Redluna32 Yep anytime one her kids tryed to challenge Suleiman her told them off vs Mahidevran who stood back and smiled. By the time Mustafa was grown and she actually tried to give him good advice he was to set in his ways and constantly made the worst choices possible.
@@CrimsonAngelWinges What would always frustrate me is that, more often than not, Mustafa would charge off to do these things, triggered by Mahidevran, and she would weep about how either he and or herself couldn't bear to face such punishment. Like, these are...the consequences of your actions? By comparison, Hürrem's children might have had their moments of rebellion, but she made it clear it wasn't expected of them and that she actively disapproved.
@@Redluna32 Hurrem actively worked to keep all of her children out of harem politics. In season 3 B when Mihrimah starts getting involved in all of the harem drama she has to force her way past her mother to do it. Yet Mahidevran tossed Mustafa in head first because she had already ready been using him as her emotional support and human shield from around the time he was five. She always cried in front of him making him solely responsible for her happiness vs Hurrem who actively avoids crying in front of her children.
How can anyone like Mahidevran after this??? She caused her son to overstep and disrespect his father over a lie. Hurrem did not corner her, she went to Hurrem's room. Hurrem didnt thregen her, she wanted to taunt Hurrem to make herself feel better and when Hurrem didn't back down she resorted to violence. The Sultan caught her and made her apologize, she's lucky that's all he did. After all Hurrem is the one sitting there with a burned face. Mustafa was way out of line and will continue cross the line with Hurrem.
As a Prince and heir to the throne there's rules to follow and Mustafa never followed the rules. I could never see Hurrem's sons being disrespectful to Mahidevran, they were raised right and knew to respect their elders.
Какая чушь дети хюрем вообще не воспитанные особенно михримах та ещё змеюка хитрая
Man the level of acting from 3:30 by Halit, is phenomenal
My first love Ibrahim and last one Mustafa ❤❤❤
I'm with you ❤
He never said that to Mehmed, in a similar scenario when he had a sword to Mehmed's throat he told him 'I had a vision of you (as a baby) sleeping on my throne, may God give you a long life' he all but told him right there he was his heir.
I’m sorry but I don’t agree with Mustafa. I get her wants to protect his mother but he’s shown where his loyalties lie. He has shown his father the Sultan multiple times that he’s loyal to his mother. He’s also shown he has no problem disrespecting the Sultans wife.
Yes, no trouble talking back to the sultan himself just to defend his mother. Tsk2, very wrong move...
Mustafa's not too smart ... wasn't brought up to be a good leader and hence a sultan. Mahidrevan was also not smart to use Mustafa to go against Suleyman and Hureem. Suleyman hadn't chosen his hier yet ....
To behonest i dont think it is a big deal if he insults a sultans wife if she is against is mother
And his loyalties lies with his mother more than his father what is wrong with that all of the characters on the show are like that
@el-hakimdesignandcontracti6437 We live in a completely different cultural context. What matters in this historical context is what was considered correct and acceptable in the Ottoman Empire, under Süleyman. Loyalty to Süleyman took absolute priority. And even a prince was doing something very unacceptable if they did what Mustafa did in this situation: Question the Sultan's sense of justice as well as his ability to rule. We are entitled to our opinions, of course, but we must remember that mentalities and traditions in that time were very different from those of the 21st century.
Ibrahim is not a traitor he just protect mustafaaaa
😢😢😢😢😢
Mahidevran just let his son get into the deadly abyss with her lies!
Mustafa my daring shehzady. You said right 👍👍
He said wrong, he should never talk to his father about his fathers wife when defending his mother who's wrong. He didn't know the whole story and stormed a Sultanas quarters and demanded respect for his liar mother. This drew a further wedge between father and son. Suleiman caughet Mahidevran with her hand raised to smack him wifes already burnt face. An apology was not enough and to be honest Hurrem didn't seem to want her apology!!!
Mahidevran is lost in her own lies.
Mustafa said the right thing,❤
LOL mahidevil started it again why doesn't she say it to Mustafa?
This constant weeping and complaining in front of her son is definitely the worst thing about Mahidevran's character. I just can't stand watching it, makes me want to slap her.
I don't like when all decision of sultan always in favor for Hurem
Sultan MUSTAFA 😮😮😮❤ HES RIGHT Soliman can't control his woman 😮😮
Brave prince
18:18 god the way news gets spread so quickly
Mustafa is the best Prince for Ottoman empire after Osman Bey
What episode was this?
Mustafa did right in standing up for his mother by telling his father the problem which doesn’t mean he’s not loyal to his father. These people who say he’s not loyal to his father didn’t watch the whole series. Mustafa loved his father and was so loyal to him that he even sacrificed his life, knowing that his father, who knew nothing of Hurrem and Rustem’s plot to slander and create a scenario to eliminate Mustafa, was going to kill him. Mustafa was loyal to his father till the end.
But the sad part is Mahidevran told a lie to him and eventually made Mustafa get killed by that lies
7:52 Emrederseniz Hünkarııııımmm 😂
Sultan has no fear in justice
How dare mustafa
Mahidevil adalah biang masalah
Why Suleiman sent hurrem sultan to the other room? She has to be here , she's dynasty.
But still women used to be lower in position than men
@@juliasphoto4500 nop hurrem sultan is above mustafa
@@ΔημΣΚ are u kidding? Suleiman himself told that noone in this palace is higher than Mustafa
@@panwadca8125 that's not true
@@ΔημΣΚ No, not at all. Hürrem might have grown to be the senior ranking woman in the dynasty, but she didn't outrank şehzade, nor would have expected to.
Wow mahidevran is such a bad girl to teach Mustafa these words doesn't she know that hurrem kissed her skirt and apologies her infront of everyone and she can't even say a simple sorry she is using her son against him and hurrem thank goodness valide sultan comforted her go valide sultan!!!!!!!!!
😢😢😢 mustafaaaaaaaaaaa
14:05 i just love how Sumbul is " Yazzek !!! Evallah Rasul. Bismillahir rahmanir rahiim " 🤣🤣🤣
What wrong did mustafa said suleiman does what she says
Soliman was afraid of hurting mustafa as a sultan and the b hurrem plays on it ( that's not love ) she is devil
Она кровожадный дьявол
😂😂😂 u cant rule a womana suilmeman
Mahidevran killed her own son by constantly complaining & crying, pittying herself. He was spoiled & used by his own mother for her interests. As they say....yazak
Mustafa is my least favorite character he is a coward that hides behind his mother and secretly hates his siblings. He believes that he deserves everything.
Well, my respect for Mustafa grew slightly
@Dreamfyre as if Hurrem stands for honour and justice...
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ True
At least Mustafa wasn't spoiled, hypocrite and annoying as Mihrimah.
@@drfhgs428 true. Frankly, I just don't get it. If Mirimah was the one having this kind of talk with her father, everyone would have praised her for being a loyal daughter, who's defending her mother.
@@ΧΡΗΣΤΟΣΑΜΑΝΑΤΙΔΗΣ-β7μ Yes I don't get it either.
Some are saying Shah, Nurbanu, Firuze are evil witches, snakes and etc, while if it was Hurrem who was doing bad things, for example plotting or killing as she did(in the show) or other similar things as they did, she is consider as a queen and she is always rightful about it and she is praised.
@@drfhgs428 ikr. There's always an excuse for Hurrem and those working with or for her.
As if they're paragons of righteousness and everyone owes them nothing but loyalty and obedience
I get that they were all hostile towards hurrem, but what she did to suleiyman was far worse than what happened to her. She took his best friend, mother, sisters, and even his eldest son away from him and then she claims she loves him??
All of those characters dug their own graves because of their hatred towards Hurrem.
Like being kidnapped and made an orphan and brought to a different country and made a slave is not worse?
Well said. Same question wonders me
@@sunnybananny5737 I’m not saying hurrem is bad, trust me she’s my favourite but just saying that every character in this series is portrayed as a selfish human. Who claims one thing but is devoted only to their own self interests. Hurrem is no exception.
To be fair, her whole family was taken away from her. Besides Ayşe Hafsa's death was an accident, Ibrahim and Süleyman's sisters were hoisted by their own petards and her own kids were in danger if Mustafa took power.
That's not to claim that Hürrem is faultless by any means, but the 'she is the root of all evil narrative' isn't accurate.