Shane Dawson’s Downfall & Return is worse than we thought… the lies everyone missed
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The downfall and return of Shane Dawson and his lies, deflection, and manipulation continues and is disgusting. We need to talk about Shane Dawson’s past and present behavior and apology, hypocrisy, power dynamics, and accountability that no one is really talking about. Are we now supposed to feel bad for Shane Dawson? Who is accountable? Something doesn’t sit right in this masterclass of how to get away with, well, anything.
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"Accountability does not come with a guaranteed promise of forgiveness." LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
He literally kissed a child. He was going to meet a 14 year old child. Pedophiles do not change. And they definitely shouldn’t be forgiven. And saying it was a different time back then, I’ve known since I was a young child you don’t say the n word and I’m 35 now. We knew back then these things were wrong, people could just get away with it more
Okay but if you hate Shane you should definitely hate James Charles , he’s also a pedophile
"It was a different time then."
As an old fart, let me assure everyone that enlightened people knew this stuff was racist and not to be done back in the SEVENTIES. I was there. It was racism then, too.
Swoops fan base is seriously so cool 🤍
Right! My mom said Fred Sanford made her uncomfortable with the way he spoke so comfortably saying all the racist stuff.
I was there too & you are 100% correct!
"It was a different time" goes both ways. THIS right now is a different time, so grow up and act like this point in time is what matters.
I'm 62 so I have to laugh when a person younger than me says "It was a different time", from the time I was born it was never ok to treat the races, sexes or religions as different.
@Lisbeth and sexist
Im 30 And My Mom Was Born During Segregation....The "Different" Time Wasn't Too Far Back
Came here to post same. I was born in the '60s and was taught that these things were never acceptable. So for someone to sit here and say that in 2009 it was?? No. It never was. Stop justifying it.
@@MorwenMcGregor yes, I thought racism was on its way out in the 80s....like how is it still happening?
"It was a different timeeee" bro my grandparents say it's not okay when THEY were growing up. The fuck🤣
I just ate half of a family sized bag of lays potato chips by myself… I don’t know who that person was. I hate that person.
Oh my god, king! 💙 The accountability, this is why we love you!!! Keep your chin up!! 💙💙💙
@@BlackDogsAndLadybugs Queen, but thank you 😂 💜
😂😂😂
It’s okay, you were in a dark place and it was very obviously a different time. Way to take accountability. We’re proud of you.🥰💜
i hate that person too. we forgive you! 💖💖💖😍😍😋😁❤️❤️❤️💖💝💖🤪
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I was 18 in 2008. Trust and believe everyone knew blackface was wrong. Can't deal with children telling me this shit was ever okay....because even in the golden age of minstrel shows they damn well knew they were wrong.
Yeah people got fired for doing the stuff he did back then so I'm not sure why they are saying it was acceptable back then
I was 8 n knew it was wrong dawg I’ve quite literally been more mature than him my whole life
I was 6 in 2008 and I knew that blackface was wrong.
I was 8 in 1993, and I grew up with very racist neighbors (my parents were a bit too) and there was only 3 non-white people in my whole grade, and I STILL knew it was wrong. I remember watching some black and white movie where a Chinese character was played by a white man in dark makeup to look the stereotypical “yellow man”. the character was exaggerated to the point where it was comparable to the “Mammy” stereotype of POC women or black face characters in old movies. I remember getting annoyed that they couldn’t just cast an actual Chinese person to play a non-caricaturized version of the character.
I was a teenager in the eighties and it was considered wrong at least to everyone I knew
Can we talk about how courteous it is of Swoop to censor all these kids faces, since I'm 1000% sure none of them want to be seen/associated with Shane and the focus isn't on them anyhow? I'm always impressed and so happy to see just how much Swoop cares about the victims of the people she speaks on. 💖
Swoop understands abuse, she’s been there, so, she’s highly sensitive in this regard. She’s so brave & real, I love her! I’m a new subscriber but am so glad, I stumbled across her channel. She’s says what, so many others, aren’t brave enough to say!
@@renb6133 She is an absolutely THE BEST.
I always appreciate that she blurs faces of children, and even adults who haven't consented to putting themselves out there--her respect for privacy and desire to protect others is really lovely
Whenever someone online blurs kids faces it makes me really happy
I agree however I think the words like sexual abuse or abuse or the word rapists in silenced!! Use the words!!! Its really what happened. Why not use the actual words because for the victims of his actions I believe it should be told exactly what the f he did!!!
Shane is not a clown, he is the f**king circus
Holy $hit..that a whole ass circus!!!😂
that's why I love watching cause he is a whole ass circus and I enjoy the tea and drama
but.. but.. did you take that from Ace Attorney?
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That isn’t even to mention that while this company is planting trees to act as the equivalent of a British flag, British companies have been mass deforest if spiritually significant forests and destroying spiritual landmarks for centuries and have not stopped.
I know these issues are not things Americans are necessarily aware of but colonialism is a global problem that effects non-North American countries as well, so please be wary whenever you hear of these so called “charities” selling cheap land. It’s usually for these reasons.
dang. this needs more likes so more people can see this.
Holy shit, thank you for taking the time to educate us on this. I hope this comment acts as a boost so more people see this before they buy from the site.
I was wondering this, my family is Scottish so I know a bit more about Scottish history than most and this set off suspicion for me. No hate to swoop, not a lot know about Scottish traditions and it's history with Britain
Yeah I figured. I clicked on the link just to read up on it and immediately felt like it was a horrible idea and it just contributed to colonialism. Not to mention you can’t even use the land, it’s for the sole purpose of having a title. It’s like when they try to sell stars to people but more damaging.
yes! I've been seeing how awful that brand is for some time, and I'd really appreciate if youtubers stopped partnering with them 😑
I was sexually abused when I was a kid and didn't watch Shane's content because it was so similar to what I was experiencing. I watched D'Angelo's video and it gave me that same sick feeling I get when I think about the abuse. It doesn't matter if it was a joke, jokes can still hurt people. I can't even imagine what it must be/have been like for POC. This guy shouldn't have a platform. PERIOD. I fucking hate this guy.
yeah I don't get it? people get cancelled for so much less yet this guy is still running around as a millionaire 🙄 karma wya?
I think i was the opposite, i think i watched his stuff at so young to expose myself to that kinda stuff willingly so i had the control over the situation. I was also sexualky abused as a child.
Honestly, it bothered me so much when he’s like “I should’ve lost my career” because I was like no sh*t and it’s upsetting you won’t. It’s just so manipulative like “guys I know what I did was wrong” okay but you should still be punished for it.
If he was really being accountable to what he himself said was the right thing losing his career then he wouldn’t have come back to TH-cam he let his career stay dead and buried and if he’s not holding himself accountable he can’t be different just another thing he’s trying to brush away it’s a cycle of manipulation and abuse people think past the tone focus on the words please manipulators can sometimes play it of in a joking tone to give you a false sense of security but lure you back in that general cycle
RIGHT! And smaller, often BIPOC creators, get cancelled for waaaaay less than all of the atrocious things this man has done. He's just gross.
Ok punished how
Shane Dawson, Jeffree star, and Trisha paytas are the 3 people I will never be able to support again. I am honestly shocked how quickly people forget and forgive all the horrible actions they do. People are actively supporting Shane since he’s come back and I refuse to even watch his new video and give that him a view. There’s soooo many people that actually deserve the platform they have you included swoop yet we still let these people thrive on a job they don’t even need to have. They could live normally off their savings for the rest of their lives.
I doubt the one missed view will change anything
@@geobrizuela channels die all the time, trishas views are already less than half of what she used to get. You may not think it makes a difference but it does.
@@ilovemusic2543 but here you are watching
@@katelynmmcb watching swoop…. What’s your point
@@katelynmmcb she’s watching an anti-video about 1 of the people she mentioned so maybe you just missed the point of the comment?
Let’s not forget Shane’s mom joined in with some of his BS and encouraged him all the time!
THANK YOU. I felt like I was the only one who remembers her literally standing there encouraging him to keep going and she also screamed the N word.......
@@randomchica23 Same! She joined him on some of the inappropriate stuff on omegle too! Awful people.
@@JNB520 1. this isn't about Jenna 2. We didn't and also that is one example of someone who did wrong, recognized it and corrected themselves.
Where else would he learn it but at home 😭 racism is taught, absorbed
Also don't forget his Aunt being right there during a lot of the inappropriate and predatory sick behavior when he was filming with her own daughter (his underaged cousin).
it's almost like "mistakes" are when you spill a glass of wine on the carpet, and "horrifying borderline federal crimes" are anything shane dawson did
Not even borderline😭 he molested dogs on camera and kissed/solicited sexual activity from children ON CAMERA. This mf should be in prison.
I don't need Shane telling me I need to get to forgiving him already. The ego. The audacity. That's a clear example he's not a changed person, he didn't "grow". He has this expectation to be forgiven... and he's getting tired of waiting for it. Pathetic.
Very that ! I take it I mean him pointing to the forgive quickly when he did that it was cringe and I was shook dude is a weirdo
“It connected with people!” Racists, Shane. It connected with racists.
"I know I took a big dump on this cake, but the parts without poop on them are good! Why throw the whole cake away????"
For real, HOWWW is that his justification my god
Bingo!!! 🙄🤡
Racists and edgy teenagers who think they're funny for going against the grain
And paedophiles. Don’t forget the paedophiles.
I’m so glad that some creators on here are still willing to call him out on these disgusting behaviors and actions he committed in the past. I hate the fact that people as soon as he started to make his “comeback“ they just immediately forgot about all the disgusting terrible things that he did not only to people of color but to minors as well and it is so upsetting and it makes me so angry. Period.
I've had multiple TH-cam channels deleted by TH-cam because I pointed out the hypocrisy and evil deeds of the government as they claimed "bullying" as the reason, yet these kinds of people can continue and monotize the channel. I made videos of pedophiles talking about pedophilia and grooming channels and TH-cam deleted the videos, gave me a strike but left the creators I pointed out alone. It's absolutely mind blowing!
Poor Lucas (Fred) imagine how he must have felt hitting that block button after Shane had to go and take their conversation to such a scary place. Thank goodness he was smart enough to stop contacting him.
Also imagine how he must have felt seeing Shane go on live tv to talk about the time he was predatory towards him, only for it to be passed off as a joke and the host laughing along with Shane. Like, holy shit, how did he not get dragged through the mud for admitting on live TV he sexted a minor? It's horrifying to think about just how much he got away with and how much got swept under the rug...
@@joli1320 Legit, like why was it depicted as Lucas doing something wrong by blocking him?
@@joli1320 well Logo needs to take accountability. Notice how LGBT programs seemed to promote Shane and this entire interview but I guess we can’t call them out because they’re a “marginalized community” chile 🤦🏿♀️
ok one thing I did not hear about was him SEXTING FRED??????
@@AliciaTheTroonSlayer As a member of the LGBTQ community, you can call out the programs that promoted him and his behaviour, but don't go on to say that ALL LGBTQ programs and people promoted him and his behaviour, because that isn't true. And don't make the main focus of the call out about how they are LGBTQ. Just call out that the programs supported predatory behaviour.
You have to appreciate how Swoop is sitting here with in full clown makeup, but Shane is still the only clown in this video.
👏👏👏👏
Mmmm... This person is a clown too.
@@christy0612 How is Swoop a clown tho????
@@christy0612 In what universe
Facts 👏🏾
What we need to remember is that Shane never disappeared after his "cancellation/controversy". He was always there and pushed the boundary of being away without actually being away from the public eye every time. The first was his story posts on his IG on his mercy followed by coming on Rylands and others IG. He then came many times on Rylands podcast and even was on camera. He came on multiple videos on Ryland channel. Then came on jefree channel followed by finally officially coming on his own TH-cam channel. So it was never that he totally disappeared off social media for the year and then came back on YT. He was always there creeping behind the shadows and slowly testing the waters. The first times when he came on Ig and rylands channels were met with so much more talk and attention than Shane's actual YT. He basically desensitized his coming back bec he was always back but just not on big channel. So it's extremely important to remember that Shane was never off the internet to reflect. He was always there just not on his YT
My biggest pet peeve is when people call certain things they did “mistakes”.
I made a mistake when I thought I could eat a second bowl of cereal this morning.
Blackface is not a mistake, it’s a choice.
@@mustangtheunkown6775 I’m 22 too lol. still haven’t put myself in blackface and called it a mistake
@@casrrole does this look like 2010 to you trust me dude you should know the humor back then
@@mustangtheunkown6775 yeah I was very much alive then and no, I didn’t dress up in blackface back then either
Facts. My mom was impressed with me acknowledging that SIMPLE concept as a child. She would say you made a mistake don’t dwell on it and I’d respond with no i made a choice a very bad one and i will dwell on it until i fix the reason i made such a horrible decision. 🤷🏽♀️ got a lot of respect from her with that… I’m glad i had that mindset as well because it’s led to me having a fairly easy life like seriously
@@pterodactylbull that’s so sweet! But also yes, your life is significantly easier when you realise the debt of your choices
The way you described how he sexualized kids in order to build a career- could not have explained it any better! Don’t kiss me when I’m 12 and try to tell me that that kind of thinking and behavior wasn’t encouraged back then!
It's so gross & embarrassed to me that I watched him when I was younger & didn't see the real kind of person shane is. And I still can't believe people support him especially if they heard of all the things he's done & said.
Its not your fault you were just another victim of his
When he did the "We forgive quickly... how about you get to that" I had flashbacks to some abusers and got a chill up my spine. :)
Omg same
That’s dramatic and extra
@@geobrizuela don’t invalidate their feelings
I had much the same knee-jerk response. Abusers love making you feel like YOU are the one preventing their growth and I'm sorry you've experienced that, friend
Yeah his response was so cunty. Not everyone has to forgive shane if they don't want to tf
As someone with a dissociative disorder, I literally sometimes don't know who I am. But even then, I still expect to be held accountable for harming people!! He's literally just going "I don't know her" when it's like BITCH THAT WAS YOU.
Same!! Like, there are actions that “I” have done (obviously nothing like Shane, more like, getting into a fight with a friend) that I don’t remember at all. I don’t know who I am a lot of the time, but it is never an excuse to be a horrible person. If I ever find out something happened without me being aware, I will immediately apologize and do everything to make it better, as much as possible. I would never pull the shit that Shane did.
Because you have empathy and compassion! He doesn’t sadly. He only cares about himself
@@annacatherineandrewsyet he calls himself an "empath"💀
@@annacatherineandrewsMr. Empath lacks a key feature of having empathy!
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I knew Trayvon, not personally well but through high school friends when it happened. I'm 27 now and he should have been 26. I've NEVER forgiven shane for that one. The rest of his history came to light for me after that happened. Thank you for continuing to talk about stuff like this, you consistently bring up stuff I still somehow didn't know about. It's so important.
Yeah. A child being racially profiled and murdered as a joke? Idk if 2011 was a time for jokes like that but….. i was 17 and wouldn’t have found it funny..
I graduated from college at the same time as his brother, and I believe we were in the same ceremony since they mentioned him in one of the opening speeches. I applaud him for how much he has accomplished, but it reminded me that Trayvon never got to experience that.
That "joke" is the reason I stopped watching his videos.
Anyone who would speak ill of the dead without any thoughts or concerns about their loved ones....the grief they're experiencing (forever)...and not care how your comments will hurt those people...well that should speak volumes about the person he really is.......evil. That's the simple answer....he's wickedly evil. Because we know people by their fruits and his fruit is all rotten. Prayers to you and all of Trayvon's family and friends.....in Jesus Mighty name!
@@angiepayne9790 I agree, people who make jokes like that are not funny, it's never funny. It's disgusting, and people who make jokes like that should be ashamed of themselves.
'I don't know who that person was'
Every abuser, ever
Also, I'd never want to be defended by Keem
right?! if i got defended by keem i would stop everything immediately and rethink ALL of my life choices.
it pisses me off because i’d have more respect if he would just admit anything at all that he did and apologize. you are not a different person you are still shane dawson lol you just “changed”
Keem's kiss of death right there
@@givepeanuts EXACTLY
like...it doesn't make you a bad person to admit that YOU were a bad person...and recognizing that YOU did fucked up things in your past...it's called growth....
Blinding yourself with makeup to emphasise learning from mistakes.
That’s true dedication your craft, and I salute you
He’s right, he SHOULD HAVE lost his career. He exposed his true character over and over again. I could go on and on, but we already know. People need to just let go of this weird attachment to someone who wasn’t funny and stop telling themselves they have to keep liking him because they used to, before they had taste or common sense because they were ten.
Like seriously someone saying "fuck" was the pinnacle of comedy during that time
I used to follow that logic but it’s better to realize the truth that Shane is a piece of walking trash and controversy than still being in denial cause I used to think he was funny. He really doesn’t deserve to be back.
@@slasherscrews Are you perfect?
I remember watching Shane and laughing about it with my friends when I was 11 But since everything came out I stopped watching at the time I didn’t understand why because he owned up to everything he did but I kinda do now because isn’t he still doing the same thing after all that I just forgot he existed in all honesty and now I sit here feeling like a shit person because I was like but he apologized never again
You know, I am a firm believer in redemption, I wrote my thesis on the subject (albeit in fiction). Redemption is essentially made up of six parts: innocence, corruption (this can be from something internal or external), the corrupted state, inciting of redemption, culmination of redemption, and life after. What Shane and everyone needs to understand is that the life after is not going back to innocence, it's being a goddamn grown up and learning and growing and owning up to that shit and living with the consequences. You don't get to go back to being innocent and pure, and you definitely don't get to keep all the stuff you got while you were corrupted. You cannot be redeemed while continuing to hold onto your money and fame born out of corruption. Shane is not redeemed because if he was, he wouldn't be coming back.
Hi, your thesis sounds very interesting! May I ask which works of fiction did you base it on?
@Eszra Falcontail no. He wasn't gone for a long time. A year isn't a long time. Especially not when his fucked up career has lasted so long. Also, he's still calling the fucked up shit he said and did jokes. I don't care how you see it, he made statements that only predators and racists make regardless of if they're "jokes".
@Eszra Falcontail tell me you didn’t actually watch the video you’re commenting on without telling me you didn’t watch the video.
Well thought out and beautifully stated.
I guess when you were young and when you were a teenager you didn't act like an idiot sometimes. I guess you were perfect and innocent and never did anything wrong! Congrats 👏
A person that expects people to forgive them shouldn't be forgiven. True apologies are done for the sake of apology, not forgiveness.
he took a sabbatical to avoid being called what he is, and jokes about people needing to move on and forgive him already. He wants the results of an apology with none of the sincerity, or the sympathy.
"We forgive quickly, how about you do that" makes me want to fight like you don't deserve forgiveness Shane, you've not tried a single bit!!!!!!
“We make mistakes, yes we do!!!” Those mistakes are like, accidentally stepping on someone’s toes. Not racism and exploiting minors for years, SHANE.
Being a cpredator is not a “mistake.” Being racist as an adult is not a mistake (unfortunately a lot of children are taught racism, but refusing to educate yourself on other people’s human experiences and insisting that’s fine is a choice.)
Don't be shocked at the actions of a sociopath. Be shocked that our society lets them get away with it.
Lol yikes, don't armchair diagnose random people with personality disorders. I doubt Shane was ever abused a day in his life to ever be applicable to the ASPD diagnosis
Swoop holding a butter knife with no makeup on is my mood today 😂🖤
When you commit a crime, is it acceptable to go to the judge and say "I just wasn't myself", "I don't know who that was", "it was just a joke gone too far"? Wild.
"It was a different time then." Racist "jokes" were offensive in 2009, too, buddy.
I hate that he calls everything he did a mistake. He made active choices to build his career off offensive content. He never owns up to that, he always writes it off as "mistakes." Once is a mistake, more than once is a choice. No one will forgive him because he literally won't take accountability.
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Unfortunately, acquiring a one square meter plot of land in some Scottish backwater isn’t enough to have a title of nobility bestowed upon you. Believe it or not, Scotland actually has a court dedicated to overseeing all issues of heraldry which covers things like specific coat of arms usage and titles.
It may seem silly, but the Scottish, and British for that matter, take this stuff really seriously. Anyway, it is known as The Court of the Lord Lyon and it ruled pretty emphatically that programs like Established Titles are not real.
The court found that titles, including Lady or Lord, aren’t really names, but instead a description of people living on specific estates. Anyone owning a souvenir land plot, apartment or other residential property have no right to use these titles.
As for that $49.95 you’re spending on land, well you’re not even getting that either. The Land Registration (Scotland) Act 2012 clearly states that souvenir plots can’t be registered with the Land Register of Scotland which means you don’t actually legally own the land. In fact, the plot you have “bought” can be sold to other people as well since it’s not registered.
Of course, Established Titles claims not to do this and fair play to them. But they are also trying to sell you something that has no real value so it does kind of feel like a scam. Established Titles has countless of positive reviews and plenty of people on social media stumping for their nonsense product, but it’s not hard for scammers to do this. These people all talk about how cool it is to call themselves a Lord or Lady which is fine. Some even mention being treated better on flights and such when using their title.
But here’s the thing. You can give yourself whatever the hell title you want anyway. Is anyone actually going to ask for proof of Lordship? It’s highly unlikely. Could you imagine one of the uninterested members of a check-in crew asking to see land ownership records to prove you really are, in fact, a Lord?
Yeah, me neither. Once I accidentally select Dr. as my title for a flight. No one asked to see a degree or any credentials. If you really want to be known as a Lord or Lady, you can do without buying a phony plot of land in Scotland. Just start filling in forms with Lord as your title and save yourself the $49.95. You could even print out a fake certificate if you felt so inclined.
Are Established Titles real? No. And even if they were, you could literally call yourself a Lady or Lord anyway. It’s not like anyone outside of Scotland would notice or care.
So... they are basically selling land NFTs
@@Kementeri Yup
They’ve been debunked by several TH-camrs that research
Yea, that's what I thought when I first saw that advertisement years ago. You can call yourself lord or lady if you feel like it anyway for free. Donald Trump named his kid Baron. Lol the dude from Motley Crew's real ass name is Nikki Sixx, for example. He went down to the DMV and changed it. Lol for free. You don't have to own a square foot of land anywhere. The advertisement makes it seem like you need to though. It says something about being a Scottish traditional that anyone owning land is a lord or lady. I don't know how anyone ever believed that either. Don't they know that probably most people in Scotland own the land they live on...that would make most people a lord or lady. That seems like something we would've heard of.
Really glad people are speaking out about this. I’m glad I’m seeing less of these sponsors these days, but it’s a shame how many sponsored these establish titles for a long time.
Thank you so much for bringing to light the disrespect for the Indigenous community with his newer videos - when I saw what was going on it made me feel so uncomfortable and it just really shows the lack of knowloedge and acknowledgement they have when it comes to cultural neglegence. If we want to achieve true reconciliation you better de-educate and re-educate yourself because honey, North America has a lot of work and due dilligence for the Indigenous community - use those millions of views to do something about it
Shane Dawson can't even keep the mask of responsibility up for an entire apology video without slipping into his "Oh hee hee I'm so silly" persona every few seconds. He's exactly who everyone thinks he is - a self important twit who has never faced any real accountability for his actions.
I didn't even give him the satisfaction of a view.
I basically watched it through another youtuber (who actually is talented and a good person) reviewing it.
Anyway, every O5 seconds he dropped the "I took accountability" act and in the next O5 he says "I actually didn't..."
He does what he always does. Pretends he's gunna go somewhere deep and address things, then PRETENDS to get sidetracked like he has ADHD and says something random that happens and never speaks about it.
I hate that throughout my early high school years....I was a DIE HARD fan. So much so I got a SIGNED CARD *FROM HIS MOM!* thanking me for the valentines day card I sent him and the letter I wrote. I was pathetic. But I'm glad I got out earlier when I did.
I would gladly give up 9 Shane Dawson's for 1 Jenna Marbles. Her head on take of harmful material posted just really was what should have been the gold standard. Unfortunately it didn't start a wave. I hope that everyone (me too fuck bro) can do better.
my older sister wouldn’t let me buy a colleen hoover book because she ‘did something bad’ (was accused of glorifying abuse) but she bought a james charles pallet and shane dawson and jeffrey star makeup pallet. keep in mind, my sister is full native american adopted from my uncle. and i’m only half native american.
shane dawson was disrespectful to us when he CAME BACK. 😭 this was like recent purchase too, like maybe one year after it all came out.
You slowly morphing into a clown while savaging Shane Dawson’s foolery is the most appropriate thing I’ve ever seen. Thank you for your meta mastery💜💜💜
Truly a work of art lol
I don't think people understand that it doesn't matter what excuses or how much people "change" those people and minorities were still harmed and Shane made money off those people. Then he proceeds to try and separate himself from his "mistakes" and "jokes". Idk about you but I don't think I've ever heard him take accountability for his actions.
Really?! He did everything he could to make this better while being canceled. I’m sure if I look into your life, your not a saint either. 😉 show some empathy. Shane is allowed to move on with his life.
@@Anoukvs91 he literally hasn’t changed. he’s still profiting off of pain caused to minorities and making terrible, boring, poorly edited content and being a manipulative asshole
@@Anoukvs91 you ✨ completely ✨ missed the point
@@Anoukvs91 Shane is free to move on with his life, and I hope that he has changed and bettered himself. But that doesn't mean that anyone on this platform (or anywhere) owes him forgiveness or views. And that definitely doesn't mean he gets to just come back and start making videos again like nothing every happened and not expect some sort of backlash. I mean, he's allowed to make whatever videos he wants, but that doesn't make him free of consequence.
He's literally just back to making the exact same videos he was before his "break" or "cancelling" or whatever. How is this an example of moving on? Or even changing?
I got into Shane from his new docs and only heard about the controversial things he did from essentiallly a game of massive telephone, and never even backtracked into his youtube videos because I had (improperly obviously) assumed because he had apologized several times and said those videos were horrible that he had taken them down, let alone even knew about all the weird shit he did with his fans outside it. Makes me nauseous I even supported his newer content with alll of this, I'm glad D'Angelo and you cover this to make more people aware and to call the collective internet out on constantly forgiving dangerous people
He was mainly talking about his merch in his “return” to TH-cam. Why is he still advertising it?!
Probably trapped in a contract, lmao.
Because he STILL doesn't know to read the room.
@@kiwigirlNZ this is the most likely explanation. He is so tone deaf . And I know deaf . I’m literally not supposed to be going outside my house without hearing aids . * I’m using humour to cope* I’ll leave
Cos he's still demonitized isn't it?
Advice from Jeffrey star
I just miss Jenna Marbles - I feel tired. At the same time, I wish I could just leave the internet, like Jenna
So do it….
you can do that, you don’t need anyone’s permission
I'm thinking about going offline too. Its not easy, since we all have the internet in our hands all day long. I think its better to remove 1 social media app at a time. Remove Twitter. Next month remove tiktik, next month Instagram. Etc. I only use 2 socials so its hard to commit. Plus I have to save all my photos before deleting. Its a chore. 1 step at a time.
@@justkibby5959 i lasted almost 2 years and half without any form of social media but mostly because i was in a abusive controlling relationship. The only thing I was allowed to use was TH-cam.
Sadly, as someone who grew up in a conservative town, in a high demand religion. Many people I grew up around really did think beating wives, slavery, & child brides were okay because that was just how it was back then. They really would excuse 16 year old girls marrying 30 year men because when it happened it was the 60s and it must not be so bad because they were still married. Well yeah, our religion didn't really accept divorce unless something felony level happened. It breaks my heart knowing people really do just excuse things like that.
I was a preteen while Shane was really popular and I remember being both annoyed and disgusted with his content. At the age of 10,11,12 I KNEW edgy humour wasn’t funny and was wrong. So he damn well knew that as a 20 something year old man
I was also preteen when he was popular. Time is no excuse for his actions. If 11 year old me could see that then, why can't people see it now.
Yes! I was exactly the same, I remember people gushing about him so much when I was a teen and I watched a few of his vids and just got such bad vibes...
Same! I didn't understand why people was so crazy about him when everything he did was so offensive and tacky
I wouldn’t even call this edgy humor. That is completely different than what he did, he just calls it that to make seem less than what it actually was. But same, I saw one of his videos when I was like…9 or 10 and I felt so uncomfortable watching that stuff. My friends thought it was so funny but I would just sit there like…”can we play psp” /:
Edgy humour is funny, he doesn't have edgy humour he's just disgusting with the majority of "jokes" he says and he thinks he's funny
The fact Shane said in that comeback video "I've moved on I don't want to talk about it" just further solidifies he's trash. His first video back should've been a LEGIT apology video as a start to show remorse, but of course, it wasn't. You can['t just gloss over that kinda shit and expect decent people with morals to just let that go.
he made a bunch but he didn't lead right after leaving with that. I think no one on here actually watches him? I don't Stan the guy but I did want to see both sides and I think he's doing pretty well idk
when he started off the video with “just kidding, i didn’t learn anything” pitifully i’d seen enough. he literally ADMITTED it.
He addresses it in the beginning of the video
@@geobrizuela what did he address exactly? not the p*dophilia. not the bl*ackface. not the myriad of OTHER horrible shit he did. he just vaguely acknowledged that something happened, and he proceeded to make another hour or so of his nothing content lol. his pitiful attempt at “addressing” the horrible things he did was not good enough.
EXACTLY
The clown makeup was GENIUS. GO QUEEN 👑 🤡 👑
He said "fake crying" to Tati but he believed Tana's fake crying xD
Honestly, I wouldn't believe ANYONE in this makeup community (yes, makeup, not beauty, there all rotten inside). I feel like Tayi is the typical person that likes to light shit aflame and pretend she's innocent. So I wouldn't believe ANYONE in this group.
Tbh I fully agree with him, Let’s look at what Tati did, actually it’s very similar to what swoop herself did. Tati even if it was factual they jumped on a huge platform to expose her so called friend James coz she was hurt by his collaboration with a vitamin product, now when the internet switched up the hate on James bandwagon and it backfired directly to her, she then apologised to James and threw the blame to two others, besides the backlash it sounds so similar to what swoop did right? Coz if these people truly felt that way about the friend they were exposing why did they continue a friendship for so long? This doesn’t excuse the behaviour of people that have been exposed, it also doesn’t excuse the people that did the exposing, we see teens that harm themselves over high school bullying, yet this exposing does exactly he same shit, it tells your fan base these people are horrible people, and then that fan base does what high school kids do, they get nasty, dox, threaten harm or death to the person exposed, we talk about intent and yeah harmful comments and actions are not mistakes, so knowing the way the internet works Tati and Swoops intent was to destroy their friends lives, financially and mentally. Pretty shitty huh. So yeah I agree Tati was not as genuine in either video and I do believe some of it was croc tears. What I find fucked up too is these people that do the exposing have benefited from those friendships and then continue to benefit out of the drama it creates, then play victim and act like they are complete saints while being just as shady, that is intentional asf if you ask me.
@@pickled_sausage One of the reasons why people believed what Tati said, because she was the least problematic person in the beauty community. That's one of the reason why Jefree and Shane acted trough her: Shane had no standing in the community and Jafar doesn't have a baggage so much as he has a cargo container of past sins to eat his credibility. It had to be Tati, because they otherwise had no weight.
That being said, she turned against Shane and Jefree purely out of selfish reasons: they were about to wash their hands of the whole matter and let Tati take the fall. Understandably she wasn't interested being left twisting in the wind.
The part that always gets me in that video is when she was talking about being molested and he was all "omg *I* was molested!" as though more than one person couldn't have been molested in the world. It was just so narcissistic, that's why I don't buy his whole "I'm an empath" shtick 😒
Shane Dawson is like 90% of the way to Onision.
I was actually thinking this during the entire video 🥴
oh my god you're right
only difference is Shane has not had sex with barely legal teenagers, else they'd be on the same level
It’s funny you say that because it took me ten years on TH-cam to realize they were two different people.
Well, they did use to be friends...
I will say as a POC, I do think the racial jokes were more acceptable at the time. The movie White Chicks or Tropic Thunder where Robert Downey Jr was literally in black face were seen as funny. Now people understand more the sensitivities people have. But to try to cancel someone for something that was acceptable at the time makes no sense. Mind you, this ONLY applies to the racially insensitive jokes he said. The crimes against kids are disgusting
If what other people told me is right the joke in one of those was that he was a white person in blackface; Shane is just mocking black people straight up
Not saying either is okay, just a bit of context on why critisism on Shane can/should still be way harsher
Tropic Thunder is satire, making fun of how insensitive the white character is. It’s the exact opposite of racist.
i find it interesting the idea of 'cancel culture', because i don't feel like shane's leaving WAS actually being 'cancelled'. he didn't really lose anything in the end, he still has his channel and is still rich. if he like actually lost something or had SOME form of anything bad actually happen. like news articles called him a creep and predatory, but he was never charged, never went to court. it was more he left on his own terms to try and avoid as much backlash, and plan his next move to make money.
Charged for what exactly? Shane didnt break any laws lol
@@silcoxjakob sure, 'technically'. i don't think having sex with animals is legal though? nor is talking sexually about children/and to children? he's the same boat as onision, skating the edge of grossness.
@@nickl6774 Dont call for people to be charged when we both know there wasnt a crime lol
@@nickl6774 He made some lame jokes youre offended by, cool he still doesnt deserve to go to jail
@@silcoxjakob if you think a grown man kissing teenage fans and telling them to show him their 'fuck me face', is okay, you really need to evaluate your own choices dude. gross, and just disgusting you are defending that.
i don’t understand how your vids don’t have millions of views they are such good quality and the effort put into them is greatly appreciated
Agreed!
Second this! ❤
I third this.
Shock value, "fake cancel culture, racism and sexism/pedophilia sells. It's what America craves ergo his 20 million views. America builds entire businesses off of backs of treating people like trash ie. Racism, sexism, colorism and now influences are just part of our history that oh too many times we have come to accept and excuse. The excuses allows the culture to continue and be forgiven.
Swoop and others that create content to be honest and tell the truth SHOULD get 20 million views but clearly the evidence of how forgiving people can be to those "privileged" or "look like him" is evident.
To me it's clear why Swoop doesn't get the views even though we all know she should. Creative, informative and intelligent. Never ever change the PETTY UNIVERSITY! The make up is 🔥
Lol... I know why 😆😂😂😂
kinda off topic, but you can definitely tell the difference between the influencers that apologize w/out being “cancelled” and the influencers that do. idk if this makes sense, but you can genuinely tell that influencers who are “cancelled” or called out for their actions feel forced into taking accountability when in reality they feel NO remorse for their actions. it’s so gross bc you can tell they have gotten away with it for SO long that they genuinely believe they can just apologize and continue making money.
and you already said it too! (i commented this before i got to later in the vid)
I didn't watch his return video, but I did check out a couple of other reactions cause I'm still nosey (I just don't want to give him views). And when I heard that he pointed to the forgive quickly section and told viewers they could work on that the RAGE I felt. The presumption, the cajones, the sheer HUTZPAH of this man is next level. And now I find out how he said it and it's EVEN WORSE. If his audacity he radiates could be converted to power, it would solve the world energy crisis.
Since D'Angelo took down his video, I've been hoping for another thorough takedown to share with people if they ever wonder why I have never and will never support Shane Dawson. So thank you! May the algorithm favor you.
oh I missed D'Angelo's video... how come he took it down?
@@Throatzillaaa I believe once the stuff with James Charles texting fans that are minors came out, he took down all three in the series (J*, Shane, Tati) because he considered the videos defending James and he didn't want to have that out there. I believe it's on his community tab from around a year ago (not sure how often he posts there). His wording might be different but I believe that's the gist of it. I know it had to do with the accusations against James and how his videos included James in a way he no longer agreed with.
Absolutely PERFECT timing. Gonna watch Swoop be petty while I bake some cinnamon rolls! ☺️
Now I want cinamon rolls!! 😀
Girl me too!
Sounds like a dream!
I HAVE SOME OMG I FORGOT. YOU WONDERFUL ANGEL ❤
I'll need something sweet to balance out his repulsiveness
I hope they turn out well! And not nearly as sour and half-baked as Shane.
Every time I see someone saying "it was a different time" I think immediately about Swoop saying "different to who?"
Swoop, thank you so much for this. I used to watch Shane when I was young and highly impressionable, in addition to the fact I was raised in a family who enjoyed racist humor and the misuse of racial slurs. I never saw anything wrong with his content until he was “canceled” last year. I put in a lot of work this past year unpacking a lot of that behavior and still was ready to welcome him back with his new series. Thankfully, I watched your doc and now am second guessing my decision and realize that I am someone who’s privileged, so of course none of that humor offended me. It’s not my apology to accept. With that said, I’m going to unfollow him and continue second guessing my decisions so that I put other’s opinions and experiences in the forefront of my mind as well. I still have a lot more work to do and with docs like this, I can keeping cutting out any hatred that was implanted in my brain.
excellent! self reflection is difficult but necessary for growth!
Hey shalene, it’s really great you’ve said this. I know a lot of old Shane fans are really defensive because they loved him sm, as did I at a certain point. I’m glad u were able to just look back and reflect and unpack everything. It’s a very difficult thing to do. I’ve had to do the same recently and it’s a strange humbling but somewhat dangerous feeling, realizing your not the good person you want to believe you are, but don’t let it keep you down forever! there’s always tomorrow and UNLIKE Shane, you have already done the first step in change which is accountability, true accountability lol. Sorry this is kinda random but I hope you continue to move forward and continue to reflect on your decisions, and it’s tough when it’s someone you used to love
💖💖💖
It’s a credit to you that you’ve, consciously decided, to not follow in your parents’ footsteps. It takes a lot of self reflection & honesty to change what’s hotwired into us. It sounds like you’ve had quite a journey & are a much better person for it. Good on you! It takes guts to do this. You’re a good person. Be happy!
Admitting your faults and changing your internal narrative that was learned from parents is never easy. As someone who made a similar journey, I wish you well on continuing to grow as a human.
Ok I did not see potentially becoming a title owner on my SWOOP doc bingo
(Congrats on the sponsors)
Omg same! I just bought a pack for my friends who just had a baby and they freaked haha
In 2024, I’m thinking why the HELL anyone would let him have children! Especially with all he’s done against underaged children!
I am so, so tired of the best and most dedicated of commentary TH-camrs having to spend their time on this fool. This is yet another monumental video, so well researched, executed, and performed. Hopefully this new again light will spread the word to more people and eventually we'll get to just ignore him.
fr, shane made sexuality so normal for me i didn’t realize i was being groomed and sexually abused by my neighbors growing up, they were also emotionally abusive and i just convinced myself it was normal especially bc shane made it feel normal for me, i feel disgusted for allowing him to be an role model for me when i was in middle school, i was so uncomfortable as i started realizing how much my morals were sounding like my parents when i watched him, i love them but they are Gen X and i didn’t wanna be their carbon copy anyway yeah it’s terrible that he has victims they deserve to be heard
This is a good example of how deeper the problem of his content runs. You can tell he hasn’t fully realized the extent of his harm because he still jokes.
@@sheisaMachine yeah, and especially being from a small southern town, he was popular with just about everyone who felt edgy, but it was way worse than that, i also happen to have an ex who started hooking up with adults who was also a fan of shane’s content and i was always worried about the danger that could’ve been for him.
I watched his content in elementary school and I swear it influenced my uncomfortableness towards sex.. Like I didn’t know what “sex” was but I just knew it was what he talked about and made gross skits of.. And THAT was my introduction to sex.
I hate how I was exposed to such nasty sexual stuff as a CHILD. I wish I’d never seen it.. Maybe then I could have a normal feeling towards those things as an adult now..
I’m ace with an aversion to anything sexual and now I wonder if seeing Shane’s content when I was young contributed to that.
The fact that he’s still saying that his basically 10+ years black face soaked blood money, some of which he used to buy that house btw, was just from him “playing a character” is all I need tbh
The fact that his comment section is still.filled with people supporting him is shocking and so do gross.
This isn't drama, this isn't cancel culture, this is dangerous and illegal
yeah. he’s also filtering/deleting comments that criticize him. that monster hasn’t changed a single bit.
Those people are the same as he is
@@faithfm1 I noticed it’s all white people accepting apologies for poc in regards to Shane’s racism. Funny how that works, isn’t it.
They also seem comfortable with Shane making pe*** jokes is crazy..and horrifying.
I fully agree
i’m so over the “it was so long ago he’s changed”. we’re not talking about some 14 year old kid making disgusting “jokes” he was literally in his 20’s. and every cancelled TH-camr from that era says “oh it was for shock”, forgetting to mention he already garnered his audience, that’s the hard part, he could’ve posted anything and he WANTED to post that. you don’t toss around racist and predatory rhetoric like that SO consistently unless that’s how you genuinely feel. the only reason those videos are gone is so he can hide the worst of it and paint his own narrative that they were just jokes and harmless and he’s a different person. oki Shane. dope ass vid as usual swoop 🖤
YESSSS THIS 10000% and also the more someone constantly says “it’s a joke” is clearly a cop out to avoid being called out. And the other thing, there’s ALWAYS truth behind a “joke”. Especially when someone repeats it
@@stxrstrxckmxteo515 EXACTLY!! smh. i gotta admit I had blinders on at the beginning of his channel cause I was literally 9 years old but the kind of person he is has been clear since the beginning. He might not be out here saying the n word and talking about r wording children anymore; but that’s only because it’s not “cool” to be “edgy” like that anymore. but his intentions are clear enough through who he still attempts to defend and redeem, and who he surrounds himself with. it’s a hard pass on that guy and all of his colleagues for me
The “shock” is what got and kept his veiws. Lol
Exactly!! And by the way he hasn’t changed by making jokes, avoiding the situation and manipulating his audience in his recent comeback.
dude i made jokes like that a lot of even made jokes a lot worse than Shane ever did when i was a teen also how the hell can a criminal get forgiven by you guys and not some dude who made shitty inappropriate jokes it makes no sense also dark humour is the main type of humour in the uk so i don't really see the offence.
I remember in elementary school our music teacher told us the N word was a bad word and to never say it. I have never said the N word ever
The whole “oh it was a different time. These things don’t fly nowadays” is a bunch of bull. I remembered before Shane’s cancellation there were numerous black content creators like chescaleigh and Kat Blaque have called him out for black face but they got attacked by anti-sjws and Shane’s fans. There were people that criticized Shane and his “edgy” humor but people just want to excuse that.
Yep... they say clout is a dangerous drug, but I would argue this devotion to Dawson is right up there. In my book, enablers and defenders of shitty behavior are just as culpable as the offender.
*got attacked by racists that felt called out.
Chescaleigh was on him for years, right from the start, Shane made hating her part of his victim persona.
People like Shane really influenced my friends and I as young teenagers. It was like the “cool” thing to be into gross and shocking things. I even knew blackface was bad, and I still watched him. I guess back then I put Shane, South Park, a few comedians, and other crude tv shows and movies in the same category. Now obviously I look back and I realize how dumb I was. But most kids are dumb with their common sense. When someone online is so popular and they are normalizing blackface, younger people are gonna think it’s fine. That’s kinda how it is. But the world has changed a lot since then. And side note… I didn’t really listen to his podcast when he had it, and hearing some of those things for the first time recently was jarring.
“it’s my face again, yes i know, it’s bald.” that killed me 😂😂😂
great point: Shane should put his money where his mouth is; he profited off of the black community, and at the very least they deserve a very generous percentage %
😂😂😂😂
Honestly fr he's done bullshit towards so many communities he really should contribute and uplift so many and consistenty before even thinking he could have any access to forgiveness.
I was shook when he said it would "be weird" to remove his problematic videos. Like what?? 🤣
Right? It’s WEIRD that as a grown man he sat down and thought those “skits” out and then performed them! I feel like the past almost two years has really been an eye opener and shown that the level of pure stupidity in our country has risen to dangerous levels.
The fact that a lot of this is relevant today… with Colleen
Exploiting children is not a mistake it’s intention.
I as a professional clown (I work at a haunted farm) I don’t do makeup, I wear a mask. But I do help my coworkers with makeup and it’s a long torturous journey, because it freaking rained yesterday. Also, love your docs and your makeup is amazing, especially for someone who doesn’t do it everyday. Also also, getting makeup in the eye hurts so much, I feel you fam.
“It was a different time” is not a valid excuse. The ONLY thing that changed from then until now, is that people are finally standing up for what is right and blatant racism is being called out left and right.
Yes, it was a different time back then, but the only thing that made it different is that Shane, and people like him, got away with racism without any issue back then.
It was a different time - but the hurt still feels the same. It was a different time - but what Shane Dawson posted was disgusting back than just like it is today. It’s just that.. well, people are fucking fed up man.
There is no such thing as cancellation, I agree. But if we keep being very loud and clear about what is unacceptable in our society, we will slowly move in the right direction. In fact, I think it’s already begun.
And I am confident that the younger generations will clean up the messes of those who came before us, who made this mess in the first place. It’s up to us to sort it out and undo all the damage that’s been done. What a task.. but honestly, if people came together, we would be our most powerful weapon.
Yeah, the question I always ask when people pull the "it was a different time" line is: Different for who?
Yes yes and hell to the yes
The forgiveness part of the accountability trope is, sadly, made to make the victims forgive the abuser instead of ever making the abuser be actually be accountable. Their saying sorry does not require that apology be accepted.
Nazi Germany was a different time too, so, what Hitler did wasn't so bad then? How is that even an argument?! People really need to look into themselves and ask themselves why excuse racism and child abuse.
Yep, antisemitism was rampant in the centuries prior to Hitler (and unfortunately continues) but we can all acknowledge this context doesn't justify what occured in anyway. We can understand contextual normalisation but we should never accept these standards as correct. Excellent point x
I say this as a person who really, REALLY does not like clowns:
This video is excellent. No lies anywhere in it, and I wish we could figure out how to actually hold people like SD accountable in a way that would stick. As usual, Swoop, you’re awesome and this was a great doc.
I just can’t actually look at you in it 😬
(Bitches love brows 🤣)
* sad clown noises *
Same. I just listened my clown phobia won't stop me from atleast listening
seeing him now about to have kids is worrying
i just don't get how people watch him in the first place, he built his career off of racism, stereotypes and paedophilia but also.. his content is just terrible
Hey Swoop, I know you have mentioned doing true crime videos before, and my friend Douglas Farnsworth from Juneau Alaska has been missing since 9.28, and we have heard that Doug passed at his drug dealers house, and the dealer and his gf hid Doug's body. Even though the dealer was the last person Doug called, the police don't seem to care about helping an amazing Native Alaskan just because he's an addict. Doug is one of the most loving, thoughtful, funniest, caring people I've ever known. He's always put making others happy above his own happiness, hence why he's struggled with drugs. But his drug problem doesn't define him, he is so much more than that and I can tell you I've only known him for about 20 years, and its not enough time. We need to bring Doug home and get answers, and if there's any way you'd be willing to help that would be so amazing.
try contacting Kendall Rae on youtube too!
You can submit your request to Rachel Shannon, Stephanie Harlowe, Danielle Hallan or John Lordan if you'd like to. They cover cases in great detail
“It was a different time then” … it was never ok… when will people learn that it was and still is not ok! Thank you Swoop, I love your documentaries and your amazingly honest and raw way of presenting these pieces.
"This ain't Brita honey you're getting it straight out the faucet today." 😂😂😂
Oh how I love raw, petty, let's just be real Swoop!
She had me hooked at *fwwwwaucet ;)
Dressing up as a clown with clown music and that fabulous pink wig is honestly the best decision you ever made 😂 truly loved the whole thing
That’s how he makes his money. You wouldn’t understand
@@Wonderfullussy more like I don't understand your comment and how it relates to mine
@@aliyah.l.r .... You're just going to blatantly ignore the actual clown music I was referring to? I'm fully aware that song isn't clown music 😒
Generally, the "cancel culture doesn't exist" thing is so so true. But at least from what ai've seen, there are people who suffer from internet dogpiling... but those people are usually creators who are small-time creators and marginalized people. Regular people with a moderately sized following, who may have just stumbled upon popularity, and more often than not are queer and people of color. Usually mentally ill, as well. Those people are the real victims of "cancel culture." One off-color comment or an unpopular opinion, and small creators can get harrassed off of the internet altogether. And it's usually people punching down or across. But yeah, no, these big big creators like Shane and Jeffree and literally every other rich bigoted POS? "Cancel culture" doesn't exist for them. They still have money, power, influence.
There are so many lies Shane could run for Congress. I mean he even lied about living in a small town when he moved to a suburb of Denver.
I don't think a TH-camr owes you anything to tell you even where they live my dude
@@HellnVee It might have been to conceal the neighborhood kids he molested.
@@HellnVee I think you misinterpreted. I didn’t say which suburb he moved to, and there are many. I happen to live in a suburb that is just about 30 miles from the one Shane moved to. I recognized things in his video and after a very quick search found the church and downtown street in his video. I also found an article which named the suburb, confirming my research. That being said, I will not say which suburb he moved to. That would be doxing to me. My point is, saying you moved to a small town when you moved from a huge metropolitan city to a smaller, yet still large one is at best stretching the truth. It could be a way of gaining sympathy.
@@DenevaUnchained LMFAOSOS KAHSHAJAKA THIS SHOULDNT MADE ME LAUGH BUT IT DID😭😭😭😭
@@Mantuamaker you make no sense😂😂 why tf would that gain him sympathy. Also to him maybe it is small.. goodbye💀
I'm glad you are making a video on this Swoop, because Shane is terrible and gets away with everything.
"It was a different time" means too many people didnt take it seriously enough then and ignored the damage to victims.
It would be one thing to acknowledge the past content having aspects he was proud of but they were ruined and tainted with despicable behaviour, but he went with the other angle of emphasis. Then there was stuff that is straight up vomit-inducing, like the sexualising of Willow (that one really makes me ill) 🤢🤮
Imagine if he watched this with an open mind and an open heart willing to learn and understand the opinion of the side that isn't in his stupid echo chamber.
So ANNOYING. It wasn't even that different of a time. Like. If you look at his previous apology videos they go pretty far back. So obviously it's it's a problem for a while.
Don't forget the 250+ jump cuts in his apology video to make it look more "clean" while it just makes it look less sincere because he could've said anything and just edited it together.
PS. The clown looked good with both hair colors. ❤️
The issue with cancel culture is that it doesn't actually work on the real offenders most of the time, but it harms people that genuinely didn't do wrong or made mistakes and are aware of it. Real abusers often know the way out of situations like this and we just end up hurting each other instead
Where are the parents at concerning these meet and greets?! Why did this man feel so comfortable being so disgusting! I can’t get over parents not being involved with their kids and allowing them at tanacon 🤢 and these other freaks !
They may not have been monitoring his video content that their kids were watching. And when they brought him to a meet n greet, Things happen so fast, they wait in line and then the child goes up there and boom, within seconds something has happened. Like kissing a child on the lips or whatever.
When I tell you I literally gasped when the notification popped up 😆😆😆😆
We love a good gasp!
I disagree that being "cancelled" isnt a thing. People actually lose there jobs and livelihoods over these things. In youtube world its a little different. The influencers in question are usually VERY popular and have young fans who easily forgive. Whereas people in the media or corporations have actual bosses who fire them and sometimes even black list them after enough outcry for cancellation. So yes, it exists. It just doesnt seem to have a permanent effect on TH-cam personalities. Though certainly you could argue its brought down certain earning power of specific individuals that were at the top of their game. And Bundy is a horrible analogy here as "cancelling" didnt exist then, and he was a prior nobody serial killer sent to prison and eventually death. And even if one was to consider him "cancelled", (as if he was ever something important and popular to people before his crimes were publicized) he wasn't exactly thriving after said cancellation. He was doing hard time in isolation on death row. Sparingly giving out details of girls he killed in an effort to extend his life. Yes he had a few psychotic fan girls, but again that's not someone living the highlife. Anyway i agreed with almost everything you said about Shane, but wholeheartedly disagree cancel culture doesnt exist. (And at times goes too far.) Shane just managed to evade a full cancellation. But at least he would have suffered some monetarily. And was publicly shamed. As youre doing here.
happy to never have watched shane when he first started. I only started when he did the day as trisha paytas. So blessed i never witnessed his videos before. and thank you parents for being strick about being on the internet growing up. currrently 25