Tommy is interviewed by Paul de Leeuw about his Fellowship Award. When Tommy is half way with his Tamed Card trick, Paul decides it is time for a body search.
I will give it a try with the translation: I will use the term "Interviewer" lightly here for obvious reasons this was hardly an interview. Interviewer: In 1989 he won a price and now (1997) he also won the prestigious "Fellowship Award" he is here, it's must be like the Oscars for fellow magicians, give him a warm welcome...Tommy Wonder ! Interviewer: Tommy Wonder, that's your real name? Tommy Wonder: No, no Interviewer: So it's your stage name, and what is your real name? Tommy: Jos Interviewer: And your last name? Tommy: Bemelman, never heard of it right? Interviewer: Why did you become a magician and not a carpenter? Tommy: Gosh, why well I alway's liked deceiving people Interviewer: But in a fun magical way? Tommy: Of course Interviewer: The price, where does it stand for exactly? Tommy: Every year they have a few awards, and this one, the Fellowship Award, this one is for performing. That you are a good magician Interviewer: I don't want to be rude, but I don't know you. Tommy: That can be right, a lot of people don't know me. Interviewer: (To audience) We don't know him, right? But do you live in a box or.... (audience laughing) I am very "magic minded" I find magic the best thing there is. I know that blond thing, what's it called "Hans Klok" (another magician) but I don't know you. Where should we know your from if we want to get to know you"? Tommy: Well, I don't know for sure I work everywhere and nowhere of course and... Interviewer: Where did you perfrom last night? Tommy: Last night I didn't perform... Interviewer: You had a day off? Tommy: Yes,... Interviewer: The day before yesterday? Tommy: Also a free day, a quiet month... Interviewer: Did you perform somewhere maybe in 1996? Tommy: (Laughing) Yes Interviewer: It is a prestigious award but we've never seen you. Tommy: I work a lot abroad Interviewer: Oh, abroad...Dubai (audience laughing) Tommy: No, North-America, South-America, Japan, Europe here and there Interviewer: And what does the award mean exactly? Tommy: That you are a good magician, they decide that Interviewer: Do you get money, or a ribbon? Tommy: No I get a certificate and I believe a magic wand with silver ends. Interviewer: A magic wand with silver ends? Oooh (auience laughing) Interviewer: Okay all kidding aside you are going to accept that award, you've been called by someone who said "Hello"... (Tommy's watch starts to beep) Interviewer: Are you beeping now? (Tommy looking surprised) Tommy: Yes, ... Interviewer: Or is it your pacemaker? (audience laughing) Tommy: Sorry, it's my alarm. It's time for my hobby Interviewer: (looking surprised) You are not going to perfrom magic are you? Tommy: No, no I am not going to do any magic, it's time for my hobby. Let me put this aside... Interviewer: I am always so scared for magicians who are going to do some magic Tommy: No, no you don't need to be scared. It's no magic, this is (looking at his watch) oh we still have time. Tommy: I want you to point to a card when I say so. Not sooner or later, when I say ok? Interviewer: Ok Tommy: Point to a card...now(!) This one? Ok. Perfect on time, perfect. (Interviewer looking at the card laughing like a maniac) Tommy: Look it's precisely on time Interviewer: Should I say what it is, or are you going to guess now? Tommy: No, no look it's my hobby to collect playing cards that are exactly chosen at this paricular time. I also have a small collection, chosen by different people, in different places at the same time. Yes, all Jack of Diamonds, I don't know why but I think there is some scientific explanation for this that at exactly this time people pick the Jack of Diamonds. I like to add your card to my collection. Interviewer: And your question is of course if my card is also the Jack of Diamonds ? Tommy: Yes, of course (Tommy holds out his had to reach for the card, interviewer acts a little manical again) Interviewer: I can really disturb a magic trick can I ?(laughing) Tommy: Yes, I know but that's not what you are going to do today (Interviewer gives card and when looking at Tommy's reaction that the chosen card is not the Jack of Diamond say's) Interviewer: Oh, now he (meaning Tommy Wonder) is going to put on an act. Tommy: Well, you picked the wrong card. (Interviewer being annoying) Interviewer: Nooo, don't f*ck with me I know you're going to do something to make it right. Tommy: Well look, the back is still ok but... ok I can make it right. I shall change it Interviewer: Ok Tommy: It's very simple, you place a Jack on the card like so, and than you do this (Tommy moves the cards a bit) and the Seven of Spades will change in a Jack of Diamonds. Look, Interviewer: Are you nervous? Tommy: No, but wait...it's strange, normally the card will change in...(Tommy now shows that one of the Jacks has turned into a Seven of Spades) Interviewer: No (annoyed that he really got him but still impressed because he didn't see this coming) Tommy: Wait, (laughs when looking at what happened) you know what, I do it differently. I will change the collection into Seven of Spades. (Interviewer looking very close when Tommy is doing the changes) Tommy: Yes, you may look if you like (laughing) (Interviewer suddenly jumps at Tommy hitting him slightly) Tommy: (Laughing) I can see it works on your emotions Interviewer: Yes it makes me wild. How great, are you going to continue. Tommy: Yes of course, we got four now (places another card on top of the pile of Seven of Spades that are on the table) It's not easy here. I am being undressed. It makes me tired. Interviewer: Can I ask you a question while you continue with your magic? Tommy: Yes I continue with my magic. Interviewer: When are you going to collect your award? Tommy: April 12th Interviewer: Are the expenses being paid? (Tommy responds to, again, a question about money like it is a bad deal (joking) Tommy: I need to pay for my own flight and I don't get any money Interviewer: Oh Interviewer: That's strange Tommy: It's for the prestige, that is all Interviewer: Where are you going to collect your award? Tommy: In Hollywood Interviewer: In Hollywood, and who is going to present the award to you? Tommy: I don't know that yet, it will be a surprise Interviewer: There will probably enough "boxes" to present that award to you (refering to the box "joke" earlier) Interviewer: Are you also going to perform in Hollywood? Tommy: Yes, in Hollywood is the Magic Castle, that's sort of a private club where many magicians come to perform, and I am going to perform there for a week first and after that is the presenting of the award. Interviewer: It was nice to have you here Tommy Tommy: I liked it to Interviewer: I hope you have a nice presentation of the award and your trick was fantastic Tommy: Thank you Interviewer: I couldn't find anything in your clothes. And cards are you speciality? Tommy: No also stage performing... Interviewer: Rabbits? Tommy: No, (joking) no let those animals free in the wild Interviewer: I saw recently Sigfrid & Roy in Las Vegas, they make elephants disappear, that's now what you do? You use cards, little balls... Tommy: Yes, performing magic with the hands Interviewer: With your fingers you can do nice things (suggesting sexual stuff) (audience laughing) Interviewer: I will call you after the show.
Youre the real MVP! This was so terrible to watch, and then knowing what was said made it worse some how. Sooo much disrespect for no reason. Is this guy some type of shockjock or something? A dutch howard stern? Thats even a bad comparison bc i couldnt see howard jumping on a guest like that. I dont know how i would react to that, but I knoe tommy handled it way better than i would have
Well i thought it was between the lines ... tommy was good indeed .. but i thought paul did have enough respect .. in the end he actually realy thanked tommy . So its all good .. it was just his way of presenting .. by the way i know both of them
@@humanoidy i know both of them i spoke with tommy about it it was oke ... you can try to speak for somebody .. but that is not oke ! ... i do understand it looks horrible to you .. this was the beginning of the paul de leuw programs on tv and his thing was to annoy people .. he did this equally to all groups and dutch people tbought this was funny .. it made him famous at that time ... stuff happens its in the past .. both moved on .. r.i.p tommy
@@gmy33 I was there that evening, to accompany my brother. He expected and knew he was going to be sliced and grilled, but accepted that challenge. We had a lot fun before and afterwards. Paul de Leeuw is ok.
To all who think the interviewer is tough.. its just his style and in the end paul did show some respect ... in those timez you kinda new mr de leeuw was gonna do this to you .. so you prepare ..
Tommy, you were a gentleman amongst ...
Your magic an memory lives on.
What a lack of respect! Congratulations to Tommy who knew how to keep his self-control
I will give it a try with the translation:
I will use the term "Interviewer" lightly here for obvious reasons this was hardly an interview.
Interviewer: In 1989 he won a price and now (1997) he also won the prestigious "Fellowship Award" he is here, it's must be like the Oscars for fellow magicians, give him a warm welcome...Tommy Wonder !
Interviewer: Tommy Wonder, that's your real name?
Tommy Wonder: No, no
Interviewer: So it's your stage name, and what is your real name?
Tommy: Jos
Interviewer: And your last name?
Tommy: Bemelman, never heard of it right?
Interviewer: Why did you become a magician and not a carpenter?
Tommy: Gosh, why well I alway's liked deceiving people
Interviewer: But in a fun magical way?
Tommy: Of course
Interviewer: The price, where does it stand for exactly?
Tommy: Every year they have a few awards, and this one, the Fellowship Award, this one is for performing. That you are a good magician
Interviewer: I don't want to be rude, but I don't know you.
Tommy: That can be right, a lot of people don't know me.
Interviewer: (To audience) We don't know him, right? But do you live in a box or.... (audience laughing) I am very "magic minded" I find magic the best thing there is. I know that blond thing, what's it called "Hans Klok" (another magician) but I don't know you.
Where should we know your from if we want to get to know you"?
Tommy: Well, I don't know for sure I work everywhere and nowhere of course and...
Interviewer: Where did you perfrom last night?
Tommy: Last night I didn't perform...
Interviewer: You had a day off?
Tommy: Yes,...
Interviewer: The day before yesterday?
Tommy: Also a free day, a quiet month...
Interviewer: Did you perform somewhere maybe in 1996?
Tommy: (Laughing) Yes
Interviewer: It is a prestigious award but we've never seen you.
Tommy: I work a lot abroad
Interviewer: Oh, abroad...Dubai
(audience laughing)
Tommy: No, North-America, South-America, Japan, Europe here and there
Interviewer: And what does the award mean exactly?
Tommy: That you are a good magician, they decide that
Interviewer: Do you get money, or a ribbon?
Tommy: No I get a certificate and I believe a magic wand with silver ends.
Interviewer: A magic wand with silver ends? Oooh (auience laughing)
Interviewer: Okay all kidding aside you are going to accept that award, you've been called by someone who said "Hello"...
(Tommy's watch starts to beep)
Interviewer: Are you beeping now?
(Tommy looking surprised)
Tommy: Yes, ...
Interviewer: Or is it your pacemaker?
(audience laughing)
Tommy: Sorry, it's my alarm. It's time for my hobby
Interviewer: (looking surprised) You are not going to perfrom magic are you?
Tommy: No, no I am not going to do any magic, it's time for my hobby. Let me put this aside...
Interviewer: I am always so scared for magicians who are going to do some magic
Tommy: No, no you don't need to be scared. It's no magic, this is (looking at his watch) oh we still have time.
Tommy: I want you to point to a card when I say so. Not sooner or later, when I say ok?
Interviewer: Ok
Tommy: Point to a card...now(!) This one? Ok. Perfect on time, perfect.
(Interviewer looking at the card laughing like a maniac)
Tommy: Look it's precisely on time
Interviewer: Should I say what it is, or are you going to guess now?
Tommy: No, no look it's my hobby to collect playing cards that are exactly chosen at this paricular time. I also have a small collection, chosen by different people, in different places at the same time. Yes, all Jack of Diamonds, I don't know why but I think there is some scientific explanation for this that at exactly this time people pick the Jack of Diamonds. I like to add your card to my collection.
Interviewer: And your question is of course if my card is also the Jack of Diamonds ?
Tommy: Yes, of course
(Tommy holds out his had to reach for the card, interviewer acts a little manical again)
Interviewer: I can really disturb a magic trick can I ?(laughing)
Tommy: Yes, I know but that's not what you are going to do today
(Interviewer gives card and when looking at Tommy's reaction that the chosen card is not the Jack of Diamond say's)
Interviewer: Oh, now he (meaning Tommy Wonder) is going to put on an act.
Tommy: Well, you picked the wrong card.
(Interviewer being annoying)
Interviewer: Nooo, don't f*ck with me I know you're going to do something to make it right.
Tommy: Well look, the back is still ok but... ok I can make it right. I shall change it
Interviewer: Ok
Tommy: It's very simple, you place a Jack on the card like so, and than you do this (Tommy moves the cards a bit) and the Seven of Spades will change in a Jack of Diamonds. Look,
Interviewer: Are you nervous?
Tommy: No, but wait...it's strange, normally the card will change in...(Tommy now shows that one of the Jacks has turned into a Seven of Spades)
Interviewer: No (annoyed that he really got him but still impressed because he didn't see this coming)
Tommy: Wait, (laughs when looking at what happened) you know what, I do it differently. I will change the collection into Seven of Spades.
(Interviewer looking very close when Tommy is doing the changes)
Tommy: Yes, you may look if you like (laughing)
(Interviewer suddenly jumps at Tommy hitting him slightly)
Tommy: (Laughing) I can see it works on your emotions
Interviewer: Yes it makes me wild. How great, are you going to continue.
Tommy: Yes of course, we got four now (places another card on top of the pile of Seven of Spades that are on the table) It's not easy here. I am being undressed. It makes me tired.
Interviewer: Can I ask you a question while you continue with your magic?
Tommy: Yes I continue with my magic.
Interviewer: When are you going to collect your award?
Tommy: April 12th
Interviewer: Are the expenses being paid?
(Tommy responds to, again, a question about money like it is a bad deal (joking)
Tommy: I need to pay for my own flight and I don't get any money
Interviewer: Oh
Interviewer: That's strange
Tommy: It's for the prestige, that is all
Interviewer: Where are you going to collect your award?
Tommy: In Hollywood
Interviewer: In Hollywood, and who is going to present the award to you?
Tommy: I don't know that yet, it will be a surprise
Interviewer: There will probably enough "boxes" to present that award to you (refering to the box "joke" earlier)
Interviewer: Are you also going to perform in Hollywood?
Tommy: Yes, in Hollywood is the Magic Castle, that's sort of a private club where many magicians come to perform, and I am going to perform there for a week first and after that is the presenting of the award.
Interviewer: It was nice to have you here Tommy
Tommy: I liked it to
Interviewer: I hope you have a nice presentation of the award and your trick was fantastic
Tommy: Thank you
Interviewer: I couldn't find anything in your clothes. And cards are you speciality?
Tommy: No also stage performing...
Interviewer: Rabbits?
Tommy: No, (joking) no let those animals free in the wild
Interviewer: I saw recently Sigfrid & Roy in Las Vegas, they make elephants disappear, that's now what you do? You use cards, little balls...
Tommy: Yes, performing magic with the hands
Interviewer: With your fingers you can do nice things (suggesting sexual stuff)
(audience laughing)
Interviewer: I will call you after the show.
Tom W - Thank you very much. You did a lot of work to translate all of that. I, and I'm sure others, greatly appreciate it.
Youre the real MVP! This was so terrible to watch, and then knowing what was said made it worse some how. Sooo much disrespect for no reason. Is this guy some type of shockjock or something? A dutch howard stern? Thats even a bad comparison bc i couldnt see howard jumping on a guest like that. I dont know how i would react to that, but I knoe tommy handled it way better than i would have
Muy humilde Tomy por aguantar al pesado pay@so ese menudo t0nto . Q falta de respeto empezar a hablar en medio del juego y con sus preguntas idi0tas
Good effect destroyed in very hard conditions with a one way interview and Tommy still calm.WOW. A great, VERY GREAT magician .
This interviewer was appalling.
He had no respect for Tommy or magic.
Immature and pathetic.
Tommy handled it well.
was he rude?
Well i thought it was between the lines ... tommy was good indeed .. but i thought paul did have enough respect .. in the end he actually realy thanked tommy . So its all good .. it was just his way of presenting .. by the way i know both of them
@@gmy33 what we witnessed here is assault. Don’t protect behaviour that is shameful.
@@humanoidy i know both of them i spoke with tommy about it it was oke ... you can try to speak for somebody .. but that is not oke ! ... i do understand it looks horrible to you .. this was the beginning of the paul de leuw programs on tv and his thing was to annoy people .. he did this equally to all groups and dutch people tbought this was funny .. it made him famous at that time ... stuff happens its in the past .. both moved on .. r.i.p tommy
@@gmy33 I was there that evening, to accompany my brother. He expected and knew he was going to be sliced and grilled, but accepted that challenge. We had a lot fun before and afterwards. Paul de Leeuw is ok.
Thumbs up for Tommy ...Thumbs down for the interviewer
Welp, that's it. I've made up my mind. I'm never going on Dutch television.
Pleeaase !! Can someone speaking both languages could add an english subtitle ? Merci :)
I tried it with a translation. Maybe you find it useful.
I feel sorry for that interviewer.
Despicable behavior
To all who think the interviewer is tough.. its just his style and in the end paul did show some respect ... in those timez you kinda new mr de leeuw was gonna do this to you .. so you prepare ..
Wow cette agression! Quel crétin ce présentateur!