Without the prayers of holy monks the world would have ended long ago, God willing many more Carthusian charter houses will spring up in America and by their prays win a new Christendom and restore mother church.
@@rorymac7714I did not read of any death bed repentance made by him. Archbishop Thomas Cramner would hardly suggest to the king that be was a sinner in need of repentance.
@@tunetownmusic-l2f Hmm...well in fairness, socialism has quite a lot more to answer for with its dark crimes against humanity. So ill let Stalin's and Mao's and Pol Pot's actions slide i think.
What a shame you weren't able to go in. I was able to visit once back in 1987 because I was a Benedictine novice. A brother showed us around and we listened to vespers. It is something I will never forget. Interestingly, there was one other guest at vespers: Leonard Cheshire. Carthusians don't allow guests but they clearly made an exception for this exceptional man. Oh and by the way, the version of the Salve that the monks are singing in this video is not the Carthusian version which has a myriad of added notes.
I’d love to visit but quite conscious of the special vocation of these monks, and not want to gawk at them. You’re quite right the Salve is from the Benedictine monks of Norcia
While the world changes, the cross stands firm. The Carthusians are the most strict of the catholic hermit monks. They live today, just as they have for hundreds of years. They are truly an amazing order.
I spent my twenty first birthday there as a postulant for the lay brothers. When I walked out of my cell for the first time in that strange ensemble of clothing and shoes like sea boots, one of the brothers said "how do you feel?" and he laughed when I said "like a medieval tramp."
I admire how the Carthusians haven't changed. I am so impressed by their prayer life....the treasures they have for all Christaian churches! We need more such monasteries here in USA...perhaps Carthusians would allow people to make retreats one day. ..
@@michaelciccone2194 The Carthusians didn’t need reform as they were never deformed. After the second Vatican Council the active orders in the Church really embraced breakneck speed changes, the deformation occurred in many congregations at this point. However, as with St Teresa of Avila, who reformed the Carmelites in the 16 Century (a predominantly Contemplative congregation) there were other congregations prior to Vatican two which sought reform. The Carthusians have been faithful to their ‘Customs’ (Consuetudines) as written by Guigo I (c1121), and have continued without much change perhaps their lives as hermits - living in one compound - doesn’t require much discussion and debate.
@@bsms254 very interesting 🤔...did the Carmelites loose professed members? I have fond memories. Of my days in seminary mid 1970s...a Cistercian monastery was near our Redemptorist novitiate OCONOMOWOC WI.....it was in Spring Bank near Ocauchee Wi...well they moved to Sparta WI...beautifull place new buildings...no more ! So sad 😞...
@@michaelciccone2194 I don’t know much about Carmelite and Carthusian statistics. They are both a particular calling to the contemplative life (but the Carmelites are comparatively active I think. The Carthusian life could be summed up as Praise/Intercession/witness. And as Guigo said “if we did not do it, it would be essential that others would take charge of it” Sadly the Redemptorist congregation has moved so far from the original charism with which St Alphonsus founded it in 1732. Instead we have fatheads such as Joseph Cardinal ‘nighty nite baby I love you’ Tobin in the USA and Tim Buckley in the U.K. and many others like them destroying what little that remain. Very sad indeed. St Alphonsus de Liguori is one of the greatest saintly doctors in the church ! And my favourite saint. Interestingly he suggested that the Redemptorists live an active life as a missionary and revert to being a Carthusian at home.
Thanks for sharing a bit of the spiritual world. How possible is it for you to get an interview with the Carthusians. God bless these holy men who pray unceasingly for the whole world. 🙏
The music was so beautiful. I believe they are in their cells possibly 21 hours a day or more? I think of the monks. I wonder how it is possible. I know they can study. Are they allowed to write books or to compose music? Someone said they are alone all the time and aren't even with people for a few hours a day. I am told they are permitted to go to the garden once a week and to talk briefly. How do they not go insane? Is it a miracle? I would like to learn more.
The Carthusians are the only true contemplative order left in the Catholic Church; all other orders have made accommodations to suit the outside world; only these monks remain completely true to the contemplative ideal all of their lives. I did know that they had a house in England; I know only of Italy (where Saint Bruno is buried) and, of course, the Motherhouse in France. See the film: "Into Greater Silence."
Para Isaac Martinez, gracias por mandarme el video. En qué Cartuja?; en Nuestra Señora de la Defensión. En Jerez de la Frontera ( España ). Me has hecho sentirme alegre ! que Dios te Bendiga , pero no te confundas Isaac en la Cartuja también hay LUCES y SOMBRAS.
Imagine living in total silence; mass in your own room, prayer all hours of the day, two sets of 3 hours of sleep a day, one meal a day, locked in a cell 20 hours a day. To choose this type of life for yourself and eventually when you die, be thrown in a hole with no coffin and covered with dirt with no name and only a cross above you. This is extreme austerity, extreme self isolation. I can't imagine such a life, it seems like few can these days.
The rain is a sign of the graces of God pouring on this great land, a land inhabited by Angels not just Angles. It is the greatest country on earth today
@@bsms254 Beautifully well said. I wish I could see the positivity in your tone for this nation which I call my home. (Often get depressed because of the rain)
The Jesuits were one of the worst for excesses during the time of the post Vatican Iiturical experimentation period. I walked out at one of their productions that they were passing off as the Holy Mass.
I drove there. It’s near the village of Cowfold, in West Sussex. If you are a man and want to explore your vocation to the Carthusian way of life you can visit there and live there. If you are a Catholic Priest or male religious then you can ask to do a retreat there. Otherwise if you want to become an extern oblate you can visit inside too. I’m afraid if you’re just curious or if you are a female then you cannot enter. But, INTO THE GREAT SILENCE is an excellent film on Le Grand Chartreuse in France, and their life would be much the same. Park Minster cloisters are much larger than Grand Chartreuse, as it was built to accomodate monks evicted from two charter houses in France by Napoleon. I hear that the monks get around inside on bicycles.
@@bsms254 Hello, thank you for that. I've watched bits of the documentary. I was exploring a vocation to the Carthusian way of life at Park Minster (because they speak English), and so I sent them an email but I never heard back. And now, with the travel restrictions to the UK, it does not seem possible within the foreesable future. I deeply admire their silence and solitude though. It's awesome!
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Without the prayers of holy monks the world would have ended long ago, God willing many more Carthusian charter houses will spring up in America and by their prays win a new Christendom and restore mother church.
Henry VIII's truly gruesome murders of Carthusians who refused to accept his marriage is one of the most shameful episodes of his reign.
The man was a monster. He no doubt has appeared before God but how he was able to excuse his monstrous actions would have been interesting to hear.
@@rorymac7714I did not read of any death bed repentance made by him. Archbishop Thomas Cramner would hardly suggest to the king that be was a sinner in need of repentance.
Yes. How about the saints he murdered? St. John Fisher and Thomas Moore? Truly an evil king.
The ‘reformation’ is the worst thing that ever happened to the UK
@@tunetownmusic-l2f Hmm...well in fairness, socialism has quite a lot more to answer for with its dark crimes against humanity. So ill let Stalin's and Mao's and Pol Pot's actions slide i think.
Truly, the Carthusians are a prime example of spiritual world work, a transparency for God's work and presence on earth.
And also orthodox monks from Mont Athos Greece
Orthodox monasticism is more strict than the Carthusians, especially on long divine services in church and many more Lenten periods.
Holy Carthusian martyrs of London, orate pro nobis.
What a shame you weren't able to go in. I was able to visit once back in 1987 because I was a Benedictine novice. A brother showed us around and we listened to vespers. It is something I will never forget. Interestingly, there was one other guest at vespers: Leonard Cheshire. Carthusians don't allow guests but they clearly made an exception for this exceptional man. Oh and by the way, the version of the Salve that the monks are singing in this video is not the Carthusian version which has a myriad of added notes.
I’d love to visit but quite conscious of the special vocation of these monks, and not want to gawk at them. You’re quite right the Salve is from the Benedictine monks of Norcia
One of my first jobs as as a young man was at the Leonard Cheshire Home in Windermere. He came on a visit once.
While the world changes, the cross stands firm. The Carthusians are the most strict of the catholic hermit monks. They live today, just as they have for hundreds of years. They are truly an amazing order.
Except that their conventual daily High Mass in their Carthusian rite is now a novus ordo concelebrated Mass.
I spent my twenty first birthday there as a postulant for the lay brothers. When I walked out of my cell for the first time in that strange ensemble of clothing and shoes like sea boots, one of the brothers said "how do you feel?" and he laughed when I said "like a medieval tramp."
Fui novicio cartujo en España y creo que ha sido lo mejor que me ha pasado en la vida pero " muchos son los llamados y pocos los elegidos "..
Wow, en cual Cartuja ?
I admire how the Carthusians haven't changed. I am so impressed by their prayer life....the treasures they have for all Christaian churches! We need more such monasteries here in USA...perhaps Carthusians would allow people to make retreats one day.
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It’s the ONLY congregation that hasn’t needed ‘reform’
@@bsms254 i wonder what is their secret? They could solve so many problems in Chtistendom...Rc, Protestant and Orthodox churches.
@@michaelciccone2194 The Carthusians didn’t need reform as they were never deformed. After the second Vatican Council the active orders in the Church really embraced breakneck speed changes, the deformation occurred in many congregations at this point. However, as with St Teresa of Avila, who reformed the Carmelites in the 16 Century (a predominantly Contemplative congregation) there were other congregations prior to Vatican two which sought reform. The Carthusians have been faithful to their ‘Customs’ (Consuetudines) as written by Guigo I (c1121), and have continued without much change perhaps their lives as hermits - living in one compound - doesn’t require much discussion and debate.
@@bsms254 very interesting 🤔...did the Carmelites loose professed members? I have fond memories. Of my days in seminary mid 1970s...a Cistercian monastery was near our Redemptorist novitiate OCONOMOWOC WI.....it was in Spring Bank near Ocauchee Wi...well they moved to Sparta WI...beautifull place new buildings...no more ! So sad 😞...
@@michaelciccone2194 I don’t know much about Carmelite and Carthusian statistics. They are both a particular calling to the contemplative life (but the Carmelites are comparatively active I think. The Carthusian life could be summed up as Praise/Intercession/witness. And as Guigo said “if we did not do it, it would be essential that others would take charge of it”
Sadly the Redemptorist congregation has moved so far from the original charism with which St Alphonsus founded it in 1732. Instead we have fatheads such as Joseph Cardinal ‘nighty nite baby I love you’ Tobin in the USA and Tim Buckley in the U.K. and many others like them destroying what little that remain. Very sad indeed. St Alphonsus de Liguori is one of the greatest saintly doctors in the church ! And my favourite saint. Interestingly he suggested that the Redemptorists live an active life as a missionary and revert to being a Carthusian at home.
I spent my 20th birthday here in 1990 while staying for a trial month.
Did you not last longer? I love the lifestyle of those cloistered monks but not the rigours of the religious side of it.
@@hemiv8949 But the lifestyle is the religious rigour. What do you mean?
How was the trial? Would you tell us about your experience, please?
@@hemiv8949 must be tough when 20 yrs old
Please tell us about your trial period
An extraordinary vocation. Truly disappearing from the world so to only be for and in God.
Very Good, thanks for the Upload!!!
Thanks for sharing a bit of the spiritual world. How possible is it for you to get an interview with the Carthusians. God bless these holy men who pray unceasingly for the whole world. 🙏
The music was so beautiful. I believe they are in their cells possibly 21 hours a day or more? I think of the monks. I wonder how it is possible. I know they can study. Are they allowed to write books or to compose music? Someone said they are alone all the time and aren't even with people for a few hours a day. I am told they are permitted to go to the garden once a week and to talk briefly. How do they not go insane? Is it a miracle? I would like to learn more.
The Carthusians are the only true contemplative order left in the Catholic Church; all other orders have made accommodations to suit the outside world; only these monks remain completely true to the contemplative ideal all of their lives. I did know that they had a house in England; I know only of Italy (where Saint Bruno is buried) and, of course, the Motherhouse in France. See the film: "Into Greater Silence."
Camaldolese are also contemplative
@@Regis596 and trappists. But yes, carthusians are the most secluded
God bless Christians 🙏✝️❤️
Amen Genadi
Para Isaac Martinez, gracias por mandarme el video. En qué Cartuja?; en Nuestra Señora de la Defensión. En Jerez de la Frontera ( España ). Me has hecho sentirme alegre ! que Dios te Bendiga , pero no te confundas Isaac en la Cartuja también hay LUCES y SOMBRAS.
To became a Carthusian monk it's necessary to have a very good health as well as mental balance.
Y supongo que un poquito de Fé también ¿no?.
Imagine living in total silence; mass in your own room, prayer all hours of the day, two sets of 3 hours of sleep a day, one meal a day, locked in a cell 20 hours a day. To choose this type of life for yourself and eventually when you die, be thrown in a hole with no coffin and covered with dirt with no name and only a cross above you. This is extreme austerity, extreme self isolation. I can't imagine such a life, it seems like few can these days.
Ah preguntaros que es la vida para corresponder a toda una ETERNIDAD DE AMOR.
Im french, I know the order was created in France and developed in the Alpes but I wasn't expected that there is a monastery in UK.
There are Carthusian monasteries around the world
It is one of the largest with around 36 hermitages.
Beautiful. Thanks for the vid 🙏
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have only one desire - the desire for solitude and to be lost in the secret of his Face. (Thomas Merton)
Thomas Merton was a bit of a weirdo hippie. Would pay as much attention to him as to Fred Flintstone who said yabadabadoo
@@bsms254 looool
@@bsms254 judgment is for the One whose shoes are bigger than yours
@@sophiafara5997 However, there is some truth to his references regarding Thomas Merton. Even in the Trappists there is great division regarding him.
Welcome
thanks for sharing....so beautiful
you feel a heavenly peace
Indeed….even if just outside by the walls
Henry was a disgrace to the sacrament of marriage
UK always raining....
We are proud of it!
The rain is a sign of the graces of God pouring on this great land, a land inhabited by Angels not just Angles. It is the greatest country on earth today
@@bsms254 Beautifully well said.
I wish I could see the positivity in your tone for this nation which I call my home. (Often get depressed because of the rain)
@Christ_is_King- Well said. Thank you
How artsy of you.
Thank you Saint Patrick
I think the dislikes are from Jesuits
As a former Jesuit recently remarked,
"I don't think that the Jesuits are Catholics anymore!" No wonder he transferred to another community.
The Jesuits were one of the worst for excesses during the time of the post Vatican Iiturical experimentation period. I walked out at one of their productions that they were passing off as the Holy Mass.
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How do you get here ? I'm not British.
He didn't. He was just outside of the monastery. U can't go inside. It's sacred land, no one who aint part of the community can go inside.
I drove there. It’s near the village of Cowfold, in West Sussex. If you are a man and want to explore your vocation to the Carthusian way of life you can visit there and live there. If you are a Catholic Priest or male religious then you can ask to do a retreat there. Otherwise if you want to become an extern oblate you can visit inside too. I’m afraid if you’re just curious or if you are a female then you cannot enter. But, INTO THE GREAT SILENCE is an excellent film on Le Grand Chartreuse in France, and their life would be much the same. Park Minster cloisters are much larger than Grand Chartreuse, as it was built to accomodate monks evicted from two charter houses in France by Napoleon. I hear that the monks get around inside on bicycles.
@@bsms254 Hello, thank you for that. I've watched bits of the documentary. I was exploring a vocation to the Carthusian way of life at Park Minster (because they speak English), and so I sent them an email but I never heard back. And now, with the travel restrictions to the UK, it does not seem possible within the foreesable future.
I deeply admire their silence and solitude though. It's awesome!
Th only part open to the public is in the small extern chapel dedicated to St Roseline on Sundays at 10am for a low Carthusian rite Mass.
@@bsms254 Yes I remember the bike one of the brothers used around the very long cloisters.
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