@@IdefilmsImagine unironically selling meditation, a skill monks have been trying to get everyone to learn for free, for centuries. Truly disgusting when you think about it. First they sold you anxiety, now they're selling you the cure.
Hank is on a different level lol. Most TH-camrs will avoid talking about their finances because their advertisers will start fixing prices, which in turn will reduce their sponsorship revenue. Having greater notability than most content creators, Hank has more bargaining power with sponsors. ♥
It is, it totally makes clear that actually making money on it is super hard. 40 million views and then 4000, that's such a tiny fraction for instance I will never get to that level.
I think I just realized why the last moment of many shorts are getting cut off... The creators must be making it a minute and 1 sec for tiktok monetization and cutting that last sec off for TH-cam.
TH-cam limiting your shorts to 1 minute while being king of long form versus tiktok incentivizing long videos while being king of the swipables feels like the video platform version of that crab evolution meme Edit: it's called "carcinization" for the curious, basically a bunch of different things have all separately evolved into crabs at various points implying crabs are the perfect being evolution wise, this is that but for video hosts
It's like Apple being known for Gaming and Windows for Office, then Apple started leaning heavily into the whole Office thing (both in advertising as well as specs, design and functionality) and now they're desperately trying to circle back with their image lmao Capitalism just makes them all tap into all the markets instead of being happy with monopolising a (not exactly small) niche Though tbf TH-cam has never been nice to long form content, let's plays worked fine for a long time, but long well researched YT essays have never been great monetisation wise.
they're just quite clearly trying to take over the other's strenths. Tiktok is hoping to re-educate the younger generations to only use Tiktok and have them not engage with TH-cam in the first place, while TH-cam feels threatened by the surge of Tiktok and as an established platform, tries to maintain the status quo by providing the features of the competitor, so there's not a need for users to engage with Tiktok. It's as close to a war as businesses get.
This made me realize I don't use TikTok as TikTok. I always just go to the channels of the creators I like and check what new videos they uploaded, as I would on youtube. Also I don't even use the app, I just watch them on desktop, cause I don't watch videos on my phone.
Same here! I never just scroll on my homepage, I go look up accounts I already know from other platforms or that have had their videos reposted on other platforms that I happened to like and just watch their videos.
I hated TH-cam shorts until someone figured out that they are a really great way to promote their longer videos. Unfortunately a) very few people provide a link in their shorts to the original video, and b) TH-cam makes it difficult to embed a link to the original video in the short of the description.
Yeah, it's like what a weird thing to do, getting me really interested in seeing a video they made and then I'm like "cool, where can I watch it?" and their reply is "iunno lol good luck"
@@Norsilca sorry, by people I was referring to both content creators and audience. The tool everyone wants is there, but not all content creators realize it is, and for those that do... It's still easy for us to miss it right in front of us, and many don't even know to look for it.
I do think there are creators who really use shorts to their advantage. If you just have an idea for a very short joke you can do really fun stuff for a short instead of having to either drag it out or making it bigger than initially intended. But I also never scroll through shorts. I just open my homepage and if I think I'll like a short recommended, I'll open it, watch it and then return to the homepage immediately. That way you can watch everything with intention and don't need to decide when/if to swipe when you don't really like something
I think short form swipable content is honestly a huge issue. I know for me, someone in my late 20s i notice that short form content zones me out in a very creepy way. I can click off a TH-cam video or get off of other SM apps but Shortform content really feels like it hijacks my brain and makes it honestly difficult to click away. I can FEEL the algorithm trying to keep me watching and i think that is going to have longterm effects on human attention spans. I'm pulling this out of my ass. I don't have anything but my own personal experiences and a general understanding of human cognitive development. Very general.
I can scroll for hours and it's shocking to have it happen. Sit down with coffee and my phone BAM two hours gone. It happened a few times and I just had to stop. This month I've been picking up a book instead. Even 10 minutes gives me a little reset and I can go back to my day. The short form content keeps me high strung 🤷♀️ the world doesn't need that
@@ccpippin307 YES. High strung is the best description I've heard so far. I don't have the worst anxiety ever but for some reason the shorts just put me on edge. Like fight or flight kicks in or something. I've gotten a lot better here recently at breaking away after just a few mins but it feels like I have to put a lot of mental effort behind that decision.
@@wonder_platypus8337 good luck! I don't have tiktok, so that one I don't have tips for. I see Reels when I check Facebook, so that app has a 10 minute timer. For TH-cam I just spend time hitting "not interested" for any shorts on my feed. And they mostly stay away until I intentionally watch another short. Not seeing them really helps me, maybe it could help you! The three minutes here or there saves me so much time in the long run.
Fun fact: the tiktok shop thing is actually a huge thing in china already. There's many influencers who have made a whole career out of what is essentially social media telemarketing
Fascinating. So the business has had plenty of time to work out the kinks. Implying that the way it is being used now is the way that TikTok would like it to keep being used.
It's strange hearing that Tiktok is incentivizing longer content, since most of the complaints I ever hear regarding Tiktok was that the allowed lengths of videos was just... way too long. To be fair, the dialogue surrounding this was still more in terms of comparing it to Vine, and people at the time were largely using it sort of like a successor to Vine, at which it was failing miserably because without the shorter time limit people were dragging jokes out far beyond their entertainment value. But even now I see complaints from people because they are expecting short-form content and don't want creators to treat the app like a second version of TH-cam where they can just host storytimes or vlogs. People talk about how Tiktok is rotting people's attention spans, and to an extent I'm sure it's true, but really, people were largely always unwilling to engage with longer content on Tiktok, probably for the same reason that you wouldn't go on Tumblr to see some model post photos of themselves on vacation. It's just not what you open the app for.
There was definitely a certain point a switch flipped from TikTok being a second Vine to TikTok being an entirely unique thing. And TikTok definitely has the power to change its whole identity again.
Nah. It makes sense. They are just moving the goalposts so they don’t have to pay creators as much. Same with demonetization based on censorship. TH-cam will still run ads on those demonetized videos, the creator just doesn’t get the dough. Then tin foil hat conspiranoids will blame the gubnent instead of the platform.
I like the ten-minute videos when it's a slightly deeper dive into a topic or educational. I don't like the ones where it's just someone taking about their life for ten minutes. I also wish it was easier to see how long a video is upfront because there are times when I'm there for the shorter ones, and it's helpful to know what I'm in for. It's definitely contributed to my attention rotting a bit, though.
This! I will compliment someone on an item that they have and they'll tell me they got it at the tiktok shop. The rare times that I am on tiktok it definitely has that QVC vibe. That woman that sells all the beads and jewels for nails?😂😂😂
To solve the 1m vs 1:01 issue, can't you target a 1:01 length video for tiktok, then in post edit the video to speed it up 2% to make it 59s long and upload to TH-cam shorts? Much like how Seinfeld was sped up in syndication to fit more ads in.
We do this it’s just a huge pain the butt. It’s hard to hit a tight target when making off the cuff content and since revenue is so low it’s hard to justify spending time and money on stuff like that, especially if you’re a smaller creator.
Fascinating to see what's going on with other social media platforms & how monetisation works, thanks Hank! (Especially for actually giving specific numbers!) It's especially interesting as someone who only uses tumblr, which has made me allergic to ads. I'd be interested to see some kind of discussion on what's going on with that, since they've recently just, given up on the platform or something? Not sure of any specifics, but from what I've heard it's a pretty weird situation!
From what I've gathered about Tumblr the part that got cut was the group handling the new things like Tumblr live (which is literally blocked by everyone but the US because privacy issues) and twitterification attempts on the dash (some people dashboards were changed to look basically like Twitter on desktop which everyone hated and immediately found ways to edit the site elements to force it back into its og state) because of how poorly that went. Tumblr itself seems to be as fine as it ever was.
There are still problems with staff applying ban rules to queer content that doesn't violate their own ToS and the strong rules against anything even vaguely porn-shaped has kept a lot of artists away, but yeah: despite losing truckloads of money every year, I hope tumblr remains exactly as weird and algorithm-free as it is now.
I would love to see a deep dive into the scary ways people are advertising products on TikTok shop. I don't use the platform but the things I have seen from other creators makes me nervous
The US actually hates small businesses. Back around 2015-16 when affiliate marketing was hot. I was in this marketing program with kids that was making thousands every week. it lasted for about three months. People was making money off of Facebook promote button on their personal profiles. We will make a post and simply just press promote on Facebook and the reach you would get for only five dollars was crazy. For five dollars, You could get 5 to 10 sign-ups. Then boom, they removed the button and implement a whole new technical and analytical advertisement system that was super hard to understand for the normal person. Ruining everyone’s business.
I think that the problem with people doing TH-cam, or any type of content creation, is lack of strategy. They come up with ideas and upload them and post them straight away. They may be motivated for a couple months and may upload 40 videos in that time. 40 videos could be 40 or 20 weeks instead of 2/3 months. Batch and post consistently (and use a little bit of Famester to make it even easier). Don't post everything straight away post it on the same day/time every week. This also helps avoid burn out...
Mmhm. It can also help give you padding if there's ever a couple weeks you can't work. If you have two or three videos in the hopper, it isn't the end of the world if you get sick or take a vacation or something.
Thank you SO MUCH for talking candidly about money and especially income. I wish it were more normalized. As well as satisfying some of my curiosity of the logistics and income of being a content creator. Neat stuff.
Not everyone can be a talented creator like Hank. Some get stuck at sub 100,000 views forever and barely make any money. Shorts are ok but longs take so much time and effort it’s like a full time job. If it’s not making money like a full time job, it would not be worth doing it.
Yup. More views equals more money. Not every creator makes the same. I don't think anyone believes that. Some people do work full time and make videos for fun though. Not just for the money.
If this is something you continue to explore (knowing Hank's proclivities, it is hehe) you might find something useful from Safiya Nygaards video about a dress she bought from several different tiktok ads and the rabbit hole of stealing and scammery she found on the way. This whole topic has become very interesting to me despite actively not engaging with most short form content & the platforms that host it (infinite scroll is bad for my brain).
speaking as strictly a viewer, I'm always at least confused and at most infuriated by how video platforms are constantly changing what they want to be. This is a long video site, but now we're rolling out short videos, and the short video site is going to make longer videos. This other site isn't even really a video site, but rather an everything site conglomerate, and its videos are slightly shorter than the shortest allowed video on the short video si- STOP. PLEASE STOP.
Fun fact: used to be, it was impossible to upload a video longer than 5 minutes on TH-cam. Had to have an account that was flagged to do so, making you very special in that time.
It's because every site wants to be everything and outcompete everyone else at their own game. Monopoly, or the closest thing that is allowed by law, is the end goal of every large company.
TH-cam Shorts still work really great for me on my second channel. I mean, I am just small content creator and I work really hard (I also use a little bit of fame ster, but that's a necessity nowadays). I just give all my videos small initial boost, and that caused them to spread literally everywhere, bringing more and more organic views day after day.
Safiya Nygaard did a really good dive into people stealing images and content reviewing higher quality products to sell cheap knock offs. Definitely worth a watch as part of the conversation about Tik Tok shop.
That's possible but I think it was more about the views to money ratio than actual amount of views on any platform. Because the TH-cam and Tiktok views numbers were pretty close, right? (Well, as much as millions are close.) Like the algorithms and how you get views is a different discussion I think.
I mean, he is famous, and he runs PBS Aeons, Journey To The Microcosm, Crash Course, Sci Show, and whatever else I missed. So he has people in school tapping into his shows for school learning and those who are not in school watching some for personal interest. He's in an interesting pocket.
i mean, i hate my issues with meta, but as someone who does socials for a living (on a marketing level, not a creator), it's easier to just go and set it up then leave the platform. with tiktok, i feel stuck in a horrible loop of false information about many different topics. and it's so much harder to actually get the algorithm in your favor, because it keeps pushing you semi-related content. it's probably great for rabbit holes, but ugh. on yt shorts, i see clips of comtent creators I usually watch (i get a lot of gmm shorts). if anything, the rise of tiktok and it's neverending feed machine made me so upset that j lowkey stopped using social media. it's like reddit for gen z, aka awful. now that i know how much money tiktoks can make from rage watching, i'll likely never going back. glad you're making cash, but like, that means creators i hate also benefit more than they did before. thanks but no thanks. ps: everyone should watch safiya's video on TikTok shop fakes
Unfortunately on the creator side of things, the Instagram/meta experience is not great. The algorithm changes frequently and pushes ads aggressively, so it's hard to get consistent engagement. I'm an artist, and Instagram was falling behind Twitter (before Elon) because all of a sudden you'd get 12 likes on something you used to get hundreds on, and at some point it stopped showing people your posts. As a user, it's also impossible to find things on instagram -- tik tok has a great search function at least, while Instagram has been nerfing their hashtags and search function for years now. Honestly, both platforms suck for me, especially because Insta is pushing reels so much, same ragebait content and inflammatory comments... Ps I watched safiyas vid a while ago and it was honestly insane. I see it everywhere now, even Amazon has been turning into cheap fakes recently
This is super interesting. I have no idea how common this is but as a TH-cam premium subscriber the ONLY ads I see on TH-cam are merch shelves/products featured in this video. Which even show up attached to related/recommended videos that I’ve never watched. So it’s always interesting to hear about how these advertising systems work. Which I believe Shorts on TH-cam has a shifting relationship with, or at least seems from a user side to behave in a changing way on shorts.
Saw an actually entertaining ad the other day on YT Shorts. Didn't even realize it was an ad until I had watched the whole thing. Seems like this is the way that companies should be advertising
I love asking people to fight nicely. Clearly he knew asking us to not fight was impossible lol... Well hats off to you Hank! I will endeavor to fight nicely in the future!
@@snoozley853 I don't think it is irrational to want to avoid yet another social media platform. I can't speak for @Leggir but for me it really is about the time that I already waste on other sites. I just don't want to give more of that to tiktok.
how I create extra head space space: do laundry on the same specific day every week and when doing laundry not talk to anyone online unless there is an emergency - it's like an artificial church service - the holy laundry haha
I love headspace, I’m so glad you collaborated with them. Nerdfighters, I highly recommend everyone to get a headspace. Also that transition to the sponsord content was awesome. I love Hank losing his mind to then headspace. Reminds me of Olivia’s chaos into I’m grateful all the time lol.
I can't believe you pay for an app to tell you to meditate. Did you know that books exist? It's a free skill, that literally anyone can just learn. You have anxiety because you lack introspection and live a life more demanding than needed, then were sold a cure that was freely available to you. Grats. You're just another product simp.
Thank you for sharing your spirals with us. You and John both doing it does wonders for keeping everything grounded, I think. Best of luck with this battle though. It does sound like... a lot.
This dropshipping/MLM/teleshopping kinda marketing is INSANELY popular in China right now. No surprise TikTok is trying to establish it in the rest of the world.
Still bizarre to me that people actually swipe through TH-cam Shorts. I watch them from my subscriptions feed, and when I'm done with one, I go back to the subscriptions feed and choose the next one. I prefer choosable video to swipable video.
This is the first I've heard of TikTok Shop and it's really fascinating, in a way. That's the kind of thing I never would have predicted, but in hindsight seems like it was the optimal move for the people who came up with it. I wonder what kind of thought went into that decision and how much of an experiment it is.
Good job Hank, you said "Subscribe" in a weird enough way that TH-cam's new(?) feature to flash the subscribe button when the video says so missed the cue :P I did anyway though, didn't realize I hadn't already.
I didn’t really understand how TikTok’s product incentives are a good idea on any level. There are already so many scammy / scummy endorsements by unscrupulous content creators. Leaning into that even more sounds like a disaster from the jump.
I've always known that successful TH-camrs and content creators made really good money. But without fail every time they reveal how much they make I'm blown away at how high it actually is!
It's so incredibly refreshing to hear a creator use actual numbers when talking about these things. I am so tired of the "unseen number on a post-it" approach to money. It's completely unhelpful and impossible to contextualize. Thank you, Hank, for once again using real helpful terms to talk about potentially uncomfortable topics.
I will say that i hate the shorts video player. not being able to rewind 5s because i missed something is painful because it means i have to rewatch it up until the same part
All i want is a way to automatically play Shorts in the regular TH-cam video player! I don't think that's too much to ask!!! Actually, now that I think about it, I could probably figure out how to make a browser plugin for that.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 In browser all you have to do is replace /shorts/ in the URL with /watch/ so, yeah, should be pretty simple to set up some way to do that automatically. There's already a few chrome extensions for it, I'm sure some of them fully automate it, though I can't vouch for any of them since I just do it manually as needed. Sounds like a neat little project to figure out yourself, not sure if the mobile URLs function any differently.
i love youtube longs ahah i actually uninstalled instagram because of reels being added, call me old schooled but I viscerally hate shortform swipeable vertical video content :))
Thank you! I love the transparency! As many other viewers, I hate being interrupted by annoying ads - but I would like to support the creators I appreciate! It's not a very smooth experience to go looking for the missing seconds on another platform, remembering to like & share whatever version on whatever platform 😅, and hopefully not lose it over a stupid ad mid-task... Oh what was I doing 🤔 I should go do my dishes now! May just one more cutekittyshort first...
Perfect ending. Also I found a Chrome extension that forces Shorts to open in the regular video player for anyone else who wants to have a not-terrible user experience while watching them (including BEING ABLE TO TO CONTROL THE PLAYBACK holy FUCK I cannot fathom why that's not part of the Shorts player even on browser).
They made Shorts to limit the viewer... you can't control the volume... you can't control the speed... it's in portrait (yechh)... you don't even get to see who the creator is unless their thumbnail shows you. I hate Shorts, don't do TT.
Despite my name, short content is kind of a chore for me. Especially since I'm exclusively covering content that's formatted in 16:9 and have to cram that into a vertical orientation. All of that extra work is rewarded with a fraction of the CPM and an entirely different and seemingly unpredictable algorithm dance that I still don't know how to work with. But I figure with how popular that format is, we're all going to have to get used to shilling products.
On the Instagram views thing, it would be very easy to write a script that gets the views for every video uploaded and pushes that to a database. Running that every day (or even multiple times per day) would get you a daily (or more) datapoint for every video, allowing you to then pull all data points by video. I'm a software developer myself and I've done things like this, it really is a 'weekend project' that could be super helpful to a lot of creators.
Hank, I am a lurker, not a commenter. Thank you for the way you have overseen Awesome Socks. When I asked to end my subscription, you and your team responded and helped within a day.
I really appreciate you sharing this, because one of the worst parts abt getting into any creative career is that NO ONE wants to tell you what they expect.
Kinda off topic but the headspace ad line “It is hard to be a person. We are trillions of cells all trying to work together to try and be one thing and that’s NOT EASY. It takes a lot of conscious effort to do it better one day, then the next.” really just dropping bangers like that mid ad dang 🤧
I love that Hank is still so annoyed by Zuckerberg's BS after making him basically the villain of his novels is peak petty and I'm here for it lol. Never change King.
My subscribe button lit up when you said "Subscribe" . The only reason I clicked. Of all the changes TH-cam has made over the years, this one seems so inconsequential, but it's made my day.
This really solves the mystery of why I have so many shorts that feel like they are missing a bit of the end of the video-and not even the normal annoying bit of promising a part 2 that is impossible to find.
I have not used TikTok at all but the marketplace seems really interesting for an illustrator like me. I could make a TikTok, maybe even several about the process of an illustration and then sell it in the TikTok marketplace, right? It would give my supporters a more personal connection and knowledge about the piece and my thoughts behind it. It’s almost the perfect counter to AI generated art prints too, since people would see proof of how it was handcrafted …
I can see how it might appeal to actual creatives like writers, musicians and visual artist that have something of their own to sell. The problem is, of course, that uncreative people can churn out content much more selling the seaweed pills, Temu quality clothes and whatever else is available for drop shipping at click of a button. That will give TikTok shop bad reputation very fast. Non-creative can shill 10 different products a day while creative often only has a new product to shill every few weeks or months, and even shilling once a day won't be noticeable in the flood.
Wait so with the seaweed pills example would the manufacturer be paying creators, or is Tiktok paying the content creator to sell just anyone else's goods? I assume you meant the latter, because otherwise the manufacturer of supplements would still be liable for what the content creators say - but then I'm not sure what Tiktok gets? Are they just going to pay creators to get people used to shopping on Tiktok? Fascinating but confusing stuff!
I am an educator of future educators and I want to use one of these for an assignment in the my cornerstone course. Cannot use the clock app, but am now interested in YT shorts because I need to know how many views it gets and I didn't know insta didn't do this easily for creators....suggestions....
Also, Tiktok only monitises the views from the "For You" feed, not the "Following" feed. Ridiculous! It's all people advertising weird things on the For You feed
this is the only content that makes sense to make, content about the state of content creation thank you for the honesty, if i wasnt a slave id give you 10 cents myself
Oh, wow. I already didn't like tiktok's weird algorithm which funnels you very quickly into seeing the same thing over and over. It's why i left the platform after only a week or two. Imagine getting funneled into the snake oil part of tiktok.
My adult-ish kids would tell me about how the content can go dark, fast. I hadn't (haven't, either) downloaded tiktok because I already get so distracted AND I knew I'd have to spend an intense amount of time teaching the algorithm. I already deal with TH-cam trying to push new topics to me each quarter, I imagine it would be an even shorter cycle on tiktok.
yeah, what was that one experiment someone did? looking the occasional radfem vid to getting served flat-out straight up nazi videos in the span of like 18 hours?
@@ZeroFate643 it certainly could be. I didn't stick around long enough to put it to the test. It seemed pretty vapid but so does TH-cam if you just let it show you what it wants.
“ITS SUCH A CREATOR FRIENDLY WORLD!!!!!” hank said calmly.
Frankly, it's such a people friendly world
"ITS SO TYPICAL OF FACEBOOK TO DO IT THIS WAY!!"-Hank said in the most chill way possible
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@@Idefilms Using the TH-cam long financial model to its fullest potential.
@@IdefilmsImagine unironically selling meditation, a skill monks have been trying to get everyone to learn for free, for centuries.
Truly disgusting when you think about it.
First they sold you anxiety, now they're selling you the cure.
It's really interesting to hear a creator talk openly about how much money they're making on a platform
>:^( glad we feel the same
Hank is on a different level lol.
Most TH-camrs will avoid talking about their finances because their advertisers will start fixing prices, which in turn will reduce their sponsorship revenue.
Having greater notability than most content creators, Hank has more bargaining power with sponsors. ♥
@@anthonywashington2885 Could you elaborate? Why do you think creators discussing their income would cause advertisers to fix the price?
It's appreciated. you might like the safety third podcast, they talk a lot about streaming/pay
It is, it totally makes clear that actually making money on it is super hard. 40 million views and then 4000, that's such a tiny fraction for instance I will never get to that level.
I see a lot of TH-cam shorts ported from tiktoks that cut off a few seconds early and it’s very nice to have an explanation for that phenomenon now!
I also wondered about that! It's very obnoxious when the video just cuts off early like that
Seems like you could instead speed it up to avoid that, depending on length.
My mind is blown by this. I kept wondering why that was happening 🤯
or edit the video just a touch to have it fit, they don't care though. Feels like they've stolen a little from me.@@undine120
YES! So frequently the punch line or pay off is missing. Very frustrating.
I think I just realized why the last moment of many shorts are getting cut off... The creators must be making it a minute and 1 sec for tiktok monetization and cutting that last sec off for TH-cam.
holy shit you're so right
Ohhh thank you! I thought it was something the youth are into now and I was too old to get it!
Should just increase the speed to 1.02 to make it work
OH this makes so much sense
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TH-cam limiting your shorts to 1 minute while being king of long form versus tiktok incentivizing long videos while being king of the swipables feels like the video platform version of that crab evolution meme
Edit: it's called "carcinization" for the curious, basically a bunch of different things have all separately evolved into crabs at various points implying crabs are the perfect being evolution wise, this is that but for video hosts
Soon they will both host the same content.
Shrimps is bugs
It's like Apple being known for Gaming and Windows for Office, then Apple started leaning heavily into the whole Office thing (both in advertising as well as specs, design and functionality) and now they're desperately trying to circle back with their image lmao
Capitalism just makes them all tap into all the markets instead of being happy with monopolising a (not exactly small) niche
Though tbf TH-cam has never been nice to long form content, let's plays worked fine for a long time, but long well researched YT essays have never been great monetisation wise.
``There is ONE step and it is IS CRAB``
they're just quite clearly trying to take over the other's strenths. Tiktok is hoping to re-educate the younger generations to only use Tiktok and have them not engage with TH-cam in the first place, while TH-cam feels threatened by the surge of Tiktok and as an established platform, tries to maintain the status quo by providing the features of the competitor, so there's not a need for users to engage with Tiktok. It's as close to a war as businesses get.
Really engaged with these TH-cam Longs.
when you started advertising headspace i really thought it was a joke but then you just kept going and i was like "oh its an actual ad"
This made me realize I don't use TikTok as TikTok. I always just go to the channels of the creators I like and check what new videos they uploaded, as I would on youtube. Also I don't even use the app, I just watch them on desktop, cause I don't watch videos on my phone.
omg same, i dont want to download it to my phone at all
You are a rare species
Same here! I never just scroll on my homepage, I go look up accounts I already know from other platforms or that have had their videos reposted on other platforms that I happened to like and just watch their videos.
me too!!!! me too! I'm happy to know I'm not the only weirdo out here who does it this way, haha
Same, I do use the app but i do not use the for you page. normally i find a creator on you tube or ig and then follow them on tiktok
I hated TH-cam shorts until someone figured out that they are a really great way to promote their longer videos. Unfortunately a) very few people provide a link in their shorts to the original video, and b) TH-cam makes it difficult to embed a link to the original video in the short of the description.
Yeah, it's like what a weird thing to do, getting me really interested in seeing a video they made and then I'm like "cool, where can I watch it?" and their reply is "iunno lol good luck"
TH-cam shorts have a link to longer video button/text on them towards the bottom... But people haven't noticed yet.
@@WindsorMason Not always. I definitely have been on shorts where I desperately want to find the original video and there's no link.
@@Norsilca sorry, by people I was referring to both content creators and audience. The tool everyone wants is there, but not all content creators realize it is, and for those that do... It's still easy for us to miss it right in front of us, and many don't even know to look for it.
I do think there are creators who really use shorts to their advantage. If you just have an idea for a very short joke you can do really fun stuff for a short instead of having to either drag it out or making it bigger than initially intended.
But I also never scroll through shorts. I just open my homepage and if I think I'll like a short recommended, I'll open it, watch it and then return to the homepage immediately. That way you can watch everything with intention and don't need to decide when/if to swipe when you don't really like something
The Headspace ad transition made me actually laugh out loud! 😂
+1
me too!!
Did I see the first ever Hankschannel promotional video?
Me too, lmao
I think short form swipable content is honestly a huge issue. I know for me, someone in my late 20s i notice that short form content zones me out in a very creepy way. I can click off a TH-cam video or get off of other SM apps but Shortform content really feels like it hijacks my brain and makes it honestly difficult to click away. I can FEEL the algorithm trying to keep me watching and i think that is going to have longterm effects on human attention spans.
I'm pulling this out of my ass. I don't have anything but my own personal experiences and a general understanding of human cognitive development. Very general.
It definitely seems to be a universal problem, I've seen a lot of people agree with you. I hate it but I'm always getting trapped there too haha
I noticed the same self awareness and the experience isn't nice. Knowing this time is spent funding other people and wasting your time for it
I can scroll for hours and it's shocking to have it happen. Sit down with coffee and my phone BAM two hours gone. It happened a few times and I just had to stop.
This month I've been picking up a book instead. Even 10 minutes gives me a little reset and I can go back to my day.
The short form content keeps me high strung 🤷♀️ the world doesn't need that
@@ccpippin307 YES. High strung is the best description I've heard so far. I don't have the worst anxiety ever but for some reason the shorts just put me on edge. Like fight or flight kicks in or something. I've gotten a lot better here recently at breaking away after just a few mins but it feels like I have to put a lot of mental effort behind that decision.
@@wonder_platypus8337 good luck!
I don't have tiktok, so that one I don't have tips for. I see Reels when I check Facebook, so that app has a 10 minute timer. For TH-cam I just spend time hitting "not interested" for any shorts on my feed. And they mostly stay away until I intentionally watch another short. Not seeing them really helps me, maybe it could help you!
The three minutes here or there saves me so much time in the long run.
Fun fact: the tiktok shop thing is actually a huge thing in china already. There's many influencers who have made a whole career out of what is essentially social media telemarketing
I watched Edvasian’s video about it yesterday! He seemed a lot more positive about it than I felt.
very fun fact thank you
Too late to explore the world. Too early to travel the stars. Just in time for viral social media pyramid schemes.
Fascinating. So the business has had plenty of time to work out the kinks. Implying that the way it is being used now is the way that TikTok would like it to keep being used.
no sir When you consider the Pandemic it's kinda a wiredo Future psychology health thing Yep
It's strange hearing that Tiktok is incentivizing longer content, since most of the complaints I ever hear regarding Tiktok was that the allowed lengths of videos was just... way too long. To be fair, the dialogue surrounding this was still more in terms of comparing it to Vine, and people at the time were largely using it sort of like a successor to Vine, at which it was failing miserably because without the shorter time limit people were dragging jokes out far beyond their entertainment value. But even now I see complaints from people because they are expecting short-form content and don't want creators to treat the app like a second version of TH-cam where they can just host storytimes or vlogs. People talk about how Tiktok is rotting people's attention spans, and to an extent I'm sure it's true, but really, people were largely always unwilling to engage with longer content on Tiktok, probably for the same reason that you wouldn't go on Tumblr to see some model post photos of themselves on vacation. It's just not what you open the app for.
Absolutely, every app/site doesn't need to be every other app/site at once
@@metallsnubbenBut how would you then make all the money in the world?
There was definitely a certain point a switch flipped from TikTok being a second Vine to TikTok being an entirely unique thing. And TikTok definitely has the power to change its whole identity again.
Nah. It makes sense. They are just moving the goalposts so they don’t have to pay creators as much. Same with demonetization based on censorship. TH-cam will still run ads on those demonetized videos, the creator just doesn’t get the dough. Then tin foil hat conspiranoids will blame the gubnent instead of the platform.
I like the ten-minute videos when it's a slightly deeper dive into a topic or educational. I don't like the ones where it's just someone taking about their life for ten minutes. I also wish it was easier to see how long a video is upfront because there are times when I'm there for the shorter ones, and it's helpful to know what I'm in for. It's definitely contributed to my attention rotting a bit, though.
TikTok as the Gen Z QVC is a very funny future to imagine
This! I will compliment someone on an item that they have and they'll tell me they got it at the tiktok shop. The rare times that I am on tiktok it definitely has that QVC vibe. That woman that sells all the beads and jewels for nails?😂😂😂
To solve the 1m vs 1:01 issue, can't you target a 1:01 length video for tiktok, then in post edit the video to speed it up 2% to make it 59s long and upload to TH-cam shorts?
Much like how Seinfeld was sped up in syndication to fit more ads in.
We do this it’s just a huge pain the butt. It’s hard to hit a tight target when making off the cuff content and since revenue is so low it’s hard to justify spending time and money on stuff like that, especially if you’re a smaller creator.
@@hankschannelhasn't someone written software that does this? like, take the video, speed it up and post it to yt?
Or do a "TH-cam end screen kind of thing" for the tiktok videos?
@@georgplaz It would trivial to script this.
Or just make a 59s video for youtube and add a two second clip of yourself saying "have a nice day" to the end of every video.
Fascinating to see what's going on with other social media platforms & how monetisation works, thanks Hank! (Especially for actually giving specific numbers!)
It's especially interesting as someone who only uses tumblr, which has made me allergic to ads. I'd be interested to see some kind of discussion on what's going on with that, since they've recently just, given up on the platform or something? Not sure of any specifics, but from what I've heard it's a pretty weird situation!
From what I've gathered about Tumblr the part that got cut was the group handling the new things like Tumblr live (which is literally blocked by everyone but the US because privacy issues) and twitterification attempts on the dash (some people dashboards were changed to look basically like Twitter on desktop which everyone hated and immediately found ways to edit the site elements to force it back into its og state) because of how poorly that went. Tumblr itself seems to be as fine as it ever was.
There are still problems with staff applying ban rules to queer content that doesn't violate their own ToS and the strong rules against anything even vaguely porn-shaped has kept a lot of artists away, but yeah: despite losing truckloads of money every year, I hope tumblr remains exactly as weird and algorithm-free as it is now.
I would love to see a deep dive into the scary ways people are advertising products on TikTok shop. I don't use the platform but the things I have seen from other creators makes me nervous
Oh?
Swell entertainment has a couple videos on tiktok shop from a business/ user generated content/ sponsored content perspective
Hank should do it with Dr. Mike
I love J Draper's "long shorts" here on YT. I don't know if they're monetized, but they are wonderful.
It's funny how much concern there is over tiktok and who controls it UNTIL there's a shop that makes you money.
The US actually hates small businesses. Back around 2015-16 when affiliate marketing was hot. I was in this marketing program with kids that was making thousands every week. it lasted for about three months. People was making money off of Facebook promote button on their personal profiles. We will make a post and simply just press promote on Facebook and the reach you would get for only five dollars was crazy. For five dollars, You could get 5 to 10 sign-ups. Then boom, they removed the button and implement a whole new technical and analytical advertisement system that was super hard to understand for the normal person. Ruining everyone’s business.
I think that the problem with people doing TH-cam, or any type of content creation, is lack of strategy. They come up with ideas and upload them and post them straight away. They may be motivated for a couple months and may upload 40 videos in that time. 40 videos could be 40 or 20 weeks instead of 2/3 months. Batch and post consistently (and use a little bit of Famester to make it even easier). Don't post everything straight away post it on the same day/time every week. This also helps avoid burn out...
Mmhm. It can also help give you padding if there's ever a couple weeks you can't work. If you have two or three videos in the hopper, it isn't the end of the world if you get sick or take a vacation or something.
how is that relevant to what's discussed in the video?
I've seen this exact comment before
Momentum is soooo important. Don’t let it fizzle. The dailyschlapp has a good video on it.
I don't know what Famester is, but it's definitely a scam.
Thank you SO MUCH for talking candidly about money and especially income. I wish it were more normalized.
As well as satisfying some of my curiosity of the logistics and income of being a content creator. Neat stuff.
Not everyone can be a talented creator like Hank. Some get stuck at sub 100,000 views forever and barely make any money. Shorts are ok but longs take so much time and effort it’s like a full time job. If it’s not making money like a full time job, it would not be worth doing it.
Yup. More views equals more money. Not every creator makes the same. I don't think anyone believes that. Some people do work full time and make videos for fun though. Not just for the money.
If this is something you continue to explore (knowing Hank's proclivities, it is hehe) you might find something useful from Safiya Nygaards video about a dress she bought from several different tiktok ads and the rabbit hole of stealing and scammery she found on the way.
This whole topic has become very interesting to me despite actively not engaging with most short form content & the platforms that host it (infinite scroll is bad for my brain).
Her video seemed pretty well researched!
I came to the comments specifically to say this!
Her Video was amazing!
Gonna watch it after this one 👌
speaking as strictly a viewer, I'm always at least confused and at most infuriated by how video platforms are constantly changing what they want to be. This is a long video site, but now we're rolling out short videos, and the short video site is going to make longer videos. This other site isn't even really a video site, but rather an everything site conglomerate, and its videos are slightly shorter than the shortest allowed video on the short video si- STOP. PLEASE STOP.
Fun fact: used to be, it was impossible to upload a video longer than 5 minutes on TH-cam.
Had to have an account that was flagged to do so, making you very special in that time.
It's because every site wants to be everything and outcompete everyone else at their own game. Monopoly, or the closest thing that is allowed by law, is the end goal of every large company.
TH-cam and TikTok really need to do a Freaky Friday before they both mess everything up
I love the way Hank’s hair has gone on a journey post treatment lol. It looks great now tbh
he looks so different hahah but good! also shaven which i havent seen in awhile lol but
TH-cam Shorts still work really great for me on my second channel. I mean, I am just small content creator and I work really hard (I also use a little bit of fame ster, but that's a necessity nowadays). I just give all my videos small initial boost, and that caused them to spread literally everywhere, bringing more and more organic views day after day.
Safiya Nygaard did a really good dive into people stealing images and content reviewing higher quality products to sell cheap knock offs. Definitely worth a watch as part of the conversation about Tik Tok shop.
Real talk about 15:45
Was that the first "like n' subscribe" we've gotten from Hank Green since "5 stars make new nerdfighters"?
The sad thing is it made me realize i hadn't actually ever subscribed to the channel, thus getting me to subscribe. Im ashamed of myself
@@hayleyleiberman8491 Me to!
I feel like Hank's TH-cam shorts success is heavily influenced by his already big TH-cam following
That's possible but I think it was more about the views to money ratio than actual amount of views on any platform. Because the TH-cam and Tiktok views numbers were pretty close, right? (Well, as much as millions are close.) Like the algorithms and how you get views is a different discussion I think.
I mean, he is famous, and he runs PBS Aeons, Journey To The Microcosm, Crash Course, Sci Show, and whatever else I missed.
So he has people in school tapping into his shows for school learning and those who are not in school watching some for personal interest. He's in an interesting pocket.
Everything is ALWAYS changing. Right when you think you've figured it out, *BOOM* changes, and they cycle through all of the platforms.
I enjoy your TH-cam Longs. 👍
i mean, i hate my issues with meta, but as someone who does socials for a living (on a marketing level, not a creator), it's easier to just go and set it up then leave the platform. with tiktok, i feel stuck in a horrible loop of false information about many different topics. and it's so much harder to actually get the algorithm in your favor, because it keeps pushing you semi-related content. it's probably great for rabbit holes, but ugh. on yt shorts, i see clips of comtent creators I usually watch (i get a lot of gmm shorts).
if anything, the rise of tiktok and it's neverending feed machine made me so upset that j lowkey stopped using social media. it's like reddit for gen z, aka awful.
now that i know how much money tiktoks can make from rage watching, i'll likely never going back. glad you're making cash, but like, that means creators i hate also benefit more than they did before. thanks but no thanks.
ps: everyone should watch safiya's video on TikTok shop fakes
Unfortunately on the creator side of things, the Instagram/meta experience is not great. The algorithm changes frequently and pushes ads aggressively, so it's hard to get consistent engagement. I'm an artist, and Instagram was falling behind Twitter (before Elon) because all of a sudden you'd get 12 likes on something you used to get hundreds on, and at some point it stopped showing people your posts.
As a user, it's also impossible to find things on instagram -- tik tok has a great search function at least, while Instagram has been nerfing their hashtags and search function for years now.
Honestly, both platforms suck for me, especially because Insta is pushing reels so much, same ragebait content and inflammatory comments...
Ps I watched safiyas vid a while ago and it was honestly insane. I see it everywhere now, even Amazon has been turning into cheap fakes recently
I know what we should call videos on youtube that aren't youtube shorts. We should call them "TH-cam pants"
So then videos that are just above the threshold for TH-cam Shorts are TH-cam capris, and then those absurdly long video essays are TH-cam Overalls.
You really had to put this out a day after I submitted a law paper about TikTok creator pay, didn’t ya.
Glad you’re doing well hoss 🙌
This is super interesting. I have no idea how common this is but as a TH-cam premium subscriber the ONLY ads I see on TH-cam are merch shelves/products featured in this video. Which even show up attached to related/recommended videos that I’ve never watched. So it’s always interesting to hear about how these advertising systems work. Which I believe Shorts on TH-cam has a shifting relationship with, or at least seems from a user side to behave in a changing way on shorts.
Saw an actually entertaining ad the other day on YT Shorts. Didn't even realize it was an ad until I had watched the whole thing. Seems like this is the way that companies should be advertising
I love asking people to fight nicely. Clearly he knew asking us to not fight was impossible lol... Well hats off to you Hank! I will endeavor to fight nicely in the future!
I will never watch Tiktok, it only removes us of the one thing we should value most, time.
@@snoozley853 I don't think it is irrational to want to avoid yet another social media platform. I can't speak for @Leggir but for me it really is about the time that I already waste on other sites. I just don't want to give more of that to tiktok.
that goes for every social media so whats ur point
how I create extra head space space: do laundry on the same specific day every week and when doing laundry not talk to anyone online unless there is an emergency - it's like an artificial church service - the holy laundry haha
I love headspace, I’m so glad you collaborated with them. Nerdfighters, I highly recommend everyone to get a headspace. Also that transition to the sponsord content was awesome. I love Hank losing his mind to then headspace. Reminds me of Olivia’s chaos into I’m grateful all the time lol.
I can't believe you pay for an app to tell you to meditate.
Did you know that books exist?
It's a free skill, that literally anyone can just learn.
You have anxiety because you lack introspection and live a life more demanding than needed, then were sold a cure that was freely available to you.
Grats.
You're just another product simp.
Thank you for sharing your spirals with us. You and John both doing it does wonders for keeping everything grounded, I think. Best of luck with this battle though. It does sound like... a lot.
This dropshipping/MLM/teleshopping kinda marketing is INSANELY popular in China right now. No surprise TikTok is trying to establish it in the rest of the world.
This explains why TH-cam vines constantly cut off randomly. Reuploads from TikTok.
You don't know just how much this level of transparency means to me.
Thank you so much for setting such a fantastic example for creators
I love that videos over 1 minute are now considered "long form content" lol
Still bizarre to me that people actually swipe through TH-cam Shorts. I watch them from my subscriptions feed, and when I'm done with one, I go back to the subscriptions feed and choose the next one. I prefer choosable video to swipable video.
The auto subtitles have you saying you made $45,000 last month off shorts on youtube 😂
This is the first I've heard of TikTok Shop and it's really fascinating, in a way. That's the kind of thing I never would have predicted, but in hindsight seems like it was the optimal move for the people who came up with it. I wonder what kind of thought went into that decision and how much of an experiment it is.
I love these inside baseball videos. Thank you so much for doing them.
Good job Hank, you said "Subscribe" in a weird enough way that TH-cam's new(?) feature to flash the subscribe button when the video says so missed the cue :P
I did anyway though, didn't realize I hadn't already.
Now i Understand why so many Shorts are Cut off at the end, thank you Hank
The thing I want to know. How much are you making on your music on Spotify.
I also want to know about music streaming monetization
I didn’t really understand how TikTok’s product incentives are a good idea on any level. There are already so many scammy / scummy endorsements by unscrupulous content creators. Leaning into that even more sounds like a disaster from the jump.
Yes. I agree to this. I was considering creating videos on there but I've been put off.
Everybody's commenting on the excellent sponsor transition, which is unfair to that banger of an outro. ø/
I rarely ever comment on videos, long time lurker (big awesome socks fan) but I absolutely cackled at the transition to Headspace, 10/10
God that transition to the sponsor was amazing
I've always known that successful TH-camrs and content creators made really good money. But without fail every time they reveal how much they make I'm blown away at how high it actually is!
As someone foolishly wanting to make content for platforms, I cannot stress enough how helpful this was
Hank I pay for TH-cam premium and I have NEVER been pleasantly surprised by a sponsor portion of a video, until today. Nicely done, I laughed out loud
TH-cam longs all day
Hank Green. I'm glad you're not dying anymore. =)
The fact he could be potentially making 100k a year from short form vids is really nice to hear. I want this man to succeed. Get that bank Hank
It's so incredibly refreshing to hear a creator use actual numbers when talking about these things. I am so tired of the "unseen number on a post-it" approach to money. It's completely unhelpful and impossible to contextualize. Thank you, Hank, for once again using real helpful terms to talk about potentially uncomfortable topics.
I will say that i hate the shorts video player. not being able to rewind 5s because i missed something is painful because it means i have to rewatch it up until the same part
All i want is a way to automatically play Shorts in the regular TH-cam video player! I don't think that's too much to ask!!!
Actually, now that I think about it, I could probably figure out how to make a browser plugin for that.
@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721 In browser all you have to do is replace /shorts/ in the URL with /watch/ so, yeah, should be pretty simple to set up some way to do that automatically. There's already a few chrome extensions for it, I'm sure some of them fully automate it, though I can't vouch for any of them since I just do it manually as needed. Sounds like a neat little project to figure out yourself, not sure if the mobile URLs function any differently.
yeah i usually have to manually change the url by replacing 'shorts/' with 'watch?v='@@vigilantcosmicpenguin8721
i love youtube longs ahah i actually uninstalled instagram because of reels being added, call me old schooled but I viscerally hate shortform swipeable vertical video content :))
Thank you! I love the transparency! As many other viewers, I hate being interrupted by annoying ads - but I would like to support the creators I appreciate! It's not a very smooth experience to go looking for the missing seconds on another platform, remembering to like & share whatever version on whatever platform 😅, and hopefully not lose it over a stupid ad mid-task... Oh what was I doing 🤔 I should go do my dishes now! May just one more cutekittyshort first...
Perfect ending. Also I found a Chrome extension that forces Shorts to open in the regular video player for anyone else who wants to have a not-terrible user experience while watching them (including BEING ABLE TO TO CONTROL THE PLAYBACK holy FUCK I cannot fathom why that's not part of the Shorts player even on browser).
They made Shorts to limit the viewer... you can't control the volume... you can't control the speed... it's in portrait (yechh)... you don't even get to see who the creator is unless their thumbnail shows you. I hate Shorts, don't do TT.
That was one of the best and most natural ad reads I’ve ever heard. Headspace must love you.
Hi Andy!!!
@@hankschannel Hi Hank!!
The first ad I got at the end was for instagram reels. Perfection 😂
I'm getting to enjoy more of TH-cam longs rather than TH-cam shorts
It feels so weird to hear Hank say "hit that thumbs up, and subscribe!"
honestly the situation of media is just so boringly dystopian
I am here for the You Tube Longs!
I love that you are sharing this info even if I am not a content creator. Thank you
Despite my name, short content is kind of a chore for me. Especially since I'm exclusively covering content that's formatted in 16:9 and have to cram that into a vertical orientation. All of that extra work is rewarded with a fraction of the CPM and an entirely different and seemingly unpredictable algorithm dance that I still don't know how to work with. But I figure with how popular that format is, we're all going to have to get used to shilling products.
I hope things improve for you guys. I love your work and hope you can keep doing it in a way you enjoy and sustains you. ♡
He did NOT just dab on us
That was clarifying, thank you. I never really knew the nuances between the platforms from the creators perspective.
On the Instagram views thing, it would be very easy to write a script that gets the views for every video uploaded and pushes that to a database. Running that every day (or even multiple times per day) would get you a daily (or more) datapoint for every video, allowing you to then pull all data points by video. I'm a software developer myself and I've done things like this, it really is a 'weekend project' that could be super helpful to a lot of creators.
I live in New Zealand and my goverment uses Tik Tok, so much in fact that had to ban it on parliment grounds and phones
Wow no wonder you guys are able to donate so generously. It's crazy the amount of money that's out there with this kind of thing
Hank, I am a lurker, not a commenter. Thank you for the way you have overseen Awesome Socks. When I asked to end my subscription, you and your team responded and helped within a day.
I really appreciate you sharing this, because one of the worst parts abt getting into any creative career is that NO ONE wants to tell you what they expect.
Hank explains how sausage is made 😂🤣😂🤣
Hank should make a video about demonetization (which probably would be demonetized!)😮
Kinda off topic but the headspace ad line “It is hard to be a person. We are trillions of cells all trying to work together to try and be one thing and that’s NOT EASY. It takes a lot of conscious effort to do it better one day, then the next.” really just dropping bangers like that mid ad dang 🤧
Really appreciate the transparency
I love that Hank is still so annoyed by Zuckerberg's BS after making him basically the villain of his novels is peak petty and I'm here for it lol. Never change King.
I really don't like the idea of TikTok Shop. Particularly if my credit card details end up being visible to TikTok, given who owns it.
My subscribe button lit up when you said "Subscribe" .
The only reason I clicked.
Of all the changes TH-cam has made over the years, this one seems so inconsequential, but it's made my day.
This really solves the mystery of why I have so many shorts that feel like they are missing a bit of the end of the video-and not even the normal annoying bit of promising a part 2 that is impossible to find.
I have not used TikTok at all but the marketplace seems really interesting for an illustrator like me. I could make a TikTok, maybe even several about the process of an illustration and then sell it in the TikTok marketplace, right?
It would give my supporters a more personal connection and knowledge about the piece and my thoughts behind it. It’s almost the perfect counter to AI generated art prints too, since people would see proof of how it was handcrafted …
...unless you used AI to make something then you recreated it for the content and sales...
I can see how it might appeal to actual creatives like writers, musicians and visual artist that have something of their own to sell. The problem is, of course, that uncreative people can churn out content much more selling the seaweed pills, Temu quality clothes and whatever else is available for drop shipping at click of a button. That will give TikTok shop bad reputation very fast. Non-creative can shill 10 different products a day while creative often only has a new product to shill every few weeks or months, and even shilling once a day won't be noticeable in the flood.
Wait so with the seaweed pills example would the manufacturer be paying creators, or is Tiktok paying the content creator to sell just anyone else's goods? I assume you meant the latter, because otherwise the manufacturer of supplements would still be liable for what the content creators say - but then I'm not sure what Tiktok gets? Are they just going to pay creators to get people used to shopping on Tiktok? Fascinating but confusing stuff!
Your ad drop in the middle is the best. I don’t use Headspace, but how you dropped this SPECIFIC ad is cool.
I was so convinced the Head Space sponsorship was a joke at first because the lead in was so perfect.
I am an educator of future educators and I want to use one of these for an assignment in the my cornerstone course. Cannot use the clock app, but am now interested in YT shorts because I need to know how many views it gets and I didn't know insta didn't do this easily for creators....suggestions....
Go back to school.
Also, Tiktok only monitises the views from the "For You" feed, not the "Following" feed. Ridiculous!
It's all people advertising weird things on the For You feed
That is very weird.
You have to wonder why would the CCP be interested in ensuring random media is thrown into everyone's face that the viewer doesn't get to choose? 🤔
this is the only content that makes sense to make, content about the state of content creation thank you for the honesty, if i wasnt a slave id give you 10 cents myself
That tone shift to the Headspace ad was GOLD.
Oh, wow. I already didn't like tiktok's weird algorithm which funnels you very quickly into seeing the same thing over and over. It's why i left the platform after only a week or two. Imagine getting funneled into the snake oil part of tiktok.
My adult-ish kids would tell me about how the content can go dark, fast. I hadn't (haven't, either) downloaded tiktok because I already get so distracted AND I knew I'd have to spend an intense amount of time teaching the algorithm.
I already deal with TH-cam trying to push new topics to me each quarter, I imagine it would be an even shorter cycle on tiktok.
yeah, what was that one experiment someone did? looking the occasional radfem vid to getting served flat-out straight up nazi videos in the span of like 18 hours?
Perhaps it's your viewing patterns? My TikTok is great at showing new/diverse content.
@@ZeroFate643 it certainly could be. I didn't stick around long enough to put it to the test. It seemed pretty vapid but so does TH-cam if you just let it show you what it wants.