Bridging The Cultural Divide In Bosnia
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 20 ก.ย. 2024
- There's little sense of community uniting Muslims and Orthodox Christian Serbs living side-by-side in the village of Bocinja. But for the children born after the end of the war, ethnic divisions are ancient history.
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its the kid that show good example on how to live and respect each other.... hopefully this kind of relationship will last untill they grown up...
Muslim is NOT a nationality....Its a religion....
I'n Yugoslavia it was in fact categorised as a ethnic group not because it actually is a ethnic group but because most muslims in former Yugoslavia are either converted Serbs or Croats.
Love , Respect and much more prayers for all Bosnian brothers and sisters.
Salafis are quite tolerant of Serbs. 'Traditional' Bosnians are not as much.
Kenan Sarajlija I guess 9/11 was a “peace offering of salafism”.
I prefer moderate Muslims, not extremists like that who killed so many in the world!
@@lenini056 it was inside job
American companies were the real winners
Oh yes? That why they beheaded just Serbs in the 90s? That's very tolerant
@@mkgzt i would do that to serbs too
there is no wahabi Muslim rather only muslim.
there is!
wahabi Muslims do exist. its a term which exists and you can search it up, for example most Bosnian Muslims drink and have sex before marriage and don't wear head scarves unless in mosque..
so shiet muslims never fought against sunni muslims in iraq? (because of conflicting interpretations of the same religion)
Adnan89BiH You are wrong, this is what you hear from others, fact is Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab (Arabic: محمد بن عبد الوهاب; 1703 - 22 June 1792)[3] was an Najdi Islamic scholar. Opponents of this movement coined the term "wahabi" or "wahabism", though neither Muhammad ibn ʿAbd al-Wahhab nor any of the movement's participants referred to themselves as such. The main fundament of his teaching was to spread Tawheed, which is the Fundament of Islam, Which means La illaha illalah Mening there is no one worthy of worship Except Allah so ask Him(Allah) only, not graves or other, but those who were against his teaching spread the lie that he is Wahabi many lies etc. Because his name was Muhammed but they could n´t say Mohammedan. To call muslims by Wahabi is totally wrong, because this title goes only to Allah swt from his 99 names Al-Wahab (The Bestower). Be careful what you say because you need to study before you post anything, because the lie spreads like fire.
I might be wrong about the root definition of Wahhab, but in Bosnia that term is commonly used to belittle fundamental Muslims who want to live more like the Muslims in the Middle East. Am I wrong on any other point. Muslims are killing Muslims because of different interpretations of the Quran, And there is a big difference between strict Islam and liberal Islam.
Adnan89BiH Salam alaikum . Muhammed saw did not come with many form of islam. If you say I am a muslim than you submit to everything Allah swt has commanded you to do.
Praise be to Allaah.
Propeht Muhammad (PBUH) told us that there will be 73 groups in my Ummah according to hadith's.
The Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) also described them in the following terms: “My ummah will split into seventy-three sects, all of whom will be in Hell except one group.” They said: Who are they, O Messenger of Allaah? He said: “(Those who follow) that which I and my companions follow.” This is mentioned in the hadeeth of ‘Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Amr which was recorded and classed as hasan by al-Tirmidhi (2641). It was also classed as hasan by al-‘Iraaqi in Ahkaam al-Qur’aan (3/432), al-‘Iraaqi in Takhreej al-Ihya’ (3/284) and al-Albaani in Saheeh al-Tirmidhi.
This is the clearest sign that the Muslim can use to determine what is the saved group, so he should follow the way of the majority of scholars, those whom all the people testify are trustworthy and religiously-committed, and he should follow the way of the earlier scholars among the Sahaabah, Taabi’een and the four Imams and other scholars, and he should beware of every sect that differs from the main body of Muslims (jamaa’ah) by following innovation (bid’ah).
So knowledge is important to fallow what is haaq and not follow what other says to follow, but anyway may Allah swt guid us to the right path. Amin
Bosniaks, serbs and croats are all the same people, just different religion. Just like their language is the same. Same culture (tv, family culture), same food and same love of sports.
Is it Arabian's matted with Slav and become Bosniaks?
@@anbuk7953 I do not think so.... It is more that half of Orthodox Slavs converted into Islam during Ottomans Empire, to save their lives.
@@MsAlhemicar What the heck? Are you insinuating that Bosniaks used to be Serbs? Stop with your propaganda, the Bosniak phenotype is more similiar to the croat than the serb
Where did I say that they were Serbs? I said Orthodox... OK, if you do not like that fact, I could tell they were Orthodox or Catholics...they are all Slavs, so it is the same. It does not mean you are Serb if you are Orthodox. I am Serb, but I am not Orthodox maybe, I can change my religion if I want, just like some Serbs and Croats did when they took Islam from Turks to save their lives (so they became Bosniaks by that). But, we are all pretty much the same Slavic people (Serbs, Croats and Bosniaks) it is just religion that keeps us apart, and stupid greedy politicians who use religion to keep tension between people. Religion should not be used in such an evil purpose in 21st century.
Those two best friends girls are ADORABLE. How they keep holding hands and looking at each other
Love..love..love n love thousand of love for Bosnian people... ❤️❤️ stand for peace...
There is nothing called wahabi Muslims.. They are sunnies Muslims...during the war you called them Muslims not a Serbian Muslims and Christian serbians and Today same corrupted media gives them different names..
Those wahabis are not our Bosnian culture..that started spreading after the war because of saudi donations 🙄
“Our” LoL Bosnians will decide for themselves who they are
@Haris Begić r u Bosniaks muslim and saying this 🙄 do you know Bosnian muslim follow hanafi like us indian but same religion is everywhere from Morocco to Indonesia but school sects are different
When the footage of this video?I was travelled to Bosnia in year 2011 and 2012 look like not much development after the 8 years.The atmosphere and the feeling of tense between races still there during that time.Bosnia I Herzegovina is amazing country and the Balkan hidden pearl. It is difficult when the nation rule by 3 Prime Ministers in a republic and you have another republic in a small country(Republic Sprska) the tiny republic.Not to involve in the BiH domestic politic but in term of economy development is not good and not significance. However, May Allah bless the BiH and wishing the diversity not result to the disaster to this country,but the diversity is unity and prosperity to the BiH. Forget the differences,but what the common thing in the diversity and politicians is important to play this role.
lol what the hell is a wahabi sect ?!!! i never heard any muslim call himself that !! abd al wahab is a muslim scholar , so do christians who also take teachings from Paul call themselves paulists ?!!!!! hysteria !!
@Kenan Bajrić well said.
You’re absolutely right, and the same goes for ‘Islamists’, which absolutely makes no sense. ‘What the hell’ is wrong too, and as Muslims we should refrain from using it ❤️.
May Allah guide us all to his straight path 🙏🏻
e ako vako vidis ovaj snimak izgledaju ove iduce 10 godine puno lepse i opet zajednica ...thumbs up if you agree
RESPECT
This is so refreshing to see...
Love my bosniaks brothers from indian muslim 🇮🇳😘🇧🇦
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Our people never seriously considered converting to Islam and it had nothing really to do with vodka. That myth was made up later by the Romanov dynasty that distorted and destroyed most of our culture and ancient writings. We didn't fully convert to Christianity until the 18'th century. Originally vodka is nothing like it is today since it was only slightly alcoholic. Rus tribes are Wends, the word Rus came from the Wend tribe of Rujani.
how about them now?
this are not real bosnians not real patriots they glorify a saudi flag?? no bosnian flag ...these are not our citizen not more!
BIH fuck you long live bosnia muslims they are real muslims fuck nationalism allah akbar !!!
Daar ul-Hadieth sorry emoties
lol saudi arabia is the leadr of muslim and arab world so of course we'll put its flag ! and we also put the bosnian flag , if anyone attacks bosnia , we'll defend it , but if anyone attacks saudi arabia , we'll also defend it , it just means we have a second home with bosnia . that's all .
There is no Bosnian, only Muslim.
As a Muslim you are required to leave patriotism behind.
They don't glorify Saudi flag, only flag of Deen Islam.
kenan , we glorify the Deen but after the Deen , we also love the saudi flag and leadership
PRAISE FOREVER UNITED !LANGUAGES OF PRAISE !PRAISE FOREVER UNITED ! UNITED TO PRAISE THE LORD !!
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Tartars were something completely different. The word "Tartar" was similarly used as the term "American" is today. From dagistanis of the caucuses all the way to Samoyed (Eskimos) of northwestern Siberia were referred to as "Tartars".
Originally Tartars were Russian pagans though and have nothing to do with what now people refer to as "Tatars".
Not too sure about Macedonians...
By "we all" I mean just us Wends. Many eastern Europeans have nothing to do with us really.
Wrong. Tatars are turkic
Mixed friendsheep between christians and muslims in Bosnia is very rare. Mixed marriage in Bosnia is rare too.
Very comon thing
Not true. My best friend is a Muslim, our best neighbours are Muslim. We are Serbs.
It is kids who all the time suffer in a war that is not their decision. ...
Christianity might have not originated in Europe, but it did originate in the colony of an early European empire (Roman empire). Christianity has been getting constantly Europeanized for around two thousand years non stop. Islam, on the other hand, was isolated from Europe so this is why it's so nonwhite and foreign. I don't try to push people into Christianity, I would gladly support Bosnians going back to their native Bogomil religion, so they can be European again.
Well, I suppose Bosnians are going to Europeanize Islam. They're not the head, but they can have a "Europeanized" Islam, I guess for simply being white lol.
*salafi, not wahabbi
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The only reason why some Latins, mainly southern Italians, look Arabic is because they imported slaves from the N.Africa that ended up being absorbed into the main population.
Italians look Arabic? Lmfao. Italians are latins as are Iberians and Romanians
All of them are serbs. is not etnic, is religion
You are delusional.
They aren't. Bosniaks are a separate ethnic group existing since Great Migration.
@@fisebilillah4406 Propaganda
@@PERSERMEX No my friend, the one that has sucked up propaganda in their mind by the Serbs is you.
@@damirrilic3582 My friend. Bosniaks are Serbs convert to islam in force under Otoman Empire. Religion is not Ethnic.
@A-Okay Metals! Serbians from Bosnia with differents religions but serbians
Ohh I read something different. I see more Russians drifting towards atheism than paganism. And no, I'm Lebanese.
In all honesty I just can’t believe he outright called them ‘Wahhabi’ on a media report, as if that’s something perfectly normal. And people just wonder where all the division and hatred comes from. Any person with basic knowledge of Islam knows that there is, never was a thing called ‘Wahhabi’, and that’s it’s just an idiotic term propagated by xenophobes and ignorants. For once, just do a little research before talking publicly about people. She’s clearly an innocent little girl who’s bestfriends with another girl from a different religion, wearing a cute little headscarf. If anything, you just painted ‘Wahhabis’ in warm light. Some propaganda.
pa sve to je normalno ljudi da zive u slozi, ko sto je u Jugi bilo :)
intel386DX
Pa jeste normalno gdje su muslimani većina.
A da li je tako u RSu?
Didjes u moju kucu i trzis od mene da zivimo u slozi .E nece da moze .
@Lazar Cvetkovic
Trebalo bi da je tako, a evo imaš komentar poviš tvoga komentara.
U Srbiji je tako jer nije bilo rata, mada i tamo ima nacionalista koji napadaju nas muslimane iz Bosne (ovako preko interneta-internet ratnici. Ruku na srce, ima ih i s naše strane, ali dosta manje).
A šta misliš za situaciju na Kosovu?
Na kraju, politika i mediji nas zavađaju, a narod ludi nasijeda.
Lol. Clearly you've read up on serbian propaganda about the Ottoman empire. I'm not saying the empire was perfect, but there's no way they could've lasted in the Balkans for 500 years if they were so brutal. Towards the end of their ruling is when things got messy. And who are you to call another empire brutal? The Russian empire wasn't so friendly either.... Are you Slavic or another Russian ethnic group?
There are57 % muslims in Bosnia. Love from bangladesh
51%
47%, and mostly as the result of genocide in WWII, and in 1992, of the native Christian(Croat and Serb) population.
@@Porkeater2610957 And even for those 47% during the last census, many were brought from other European countries where they emigrated during the war, for the census purposes, to increase their (Muslim) numbers (close to 100,000 people to be precise, who do not live in Bosnia anymore). The total population of Bosnia today is barely 3,3 million (in 1991 before the war, it was over 4,3 million). People are emigrating out of country in huge numbers, both Muslims and Christians, due to economic stagnation, corruption and nationalism.
Hope for Bosnia- this is the only way.
ما شاء الله
Wahabi?? I don't think so. Stop stereotyping.
Well she clearly was Wahabi
Leonidas Tullius She clearly was an elementary girl who was bestfriends with a girl from a different Religion, wearing a headscarf that looks cute on her. There’s no such thing as Wahhabi. No single person has ever identified himself as a ‘Wahabi’.
It’s just a fake term created by non-‘Wahabi’ people to use describing people who they dislike their way of practicing their Religion. Using it just facilitates spread of falsehood and adds to ready existing confusion present all over the world.
1- Do you think reciting the azan is the only thing about Bosnia? Coming from a Muslim, trust me, they are amongst the least Islamic people. Their nation is very liberal, they like to drink, party etc. Only a minority of Bosnians are religious Muslims. But nothing like Mecca. You know nothing about their culture. Please educate yourself. Their food, music, clothing, dance aka CULTURE is similar to that of Serbia, Croatia and Macedonia and in some cases, similar to Turkey.
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No such thing as "Slavic" really exists, it's falsely made up ethnonym. But I'm not from any other group, I'm an ethnic Russian (Wend).
Wrong
And about you're race, I see you're being super specific. What do you call Bulgarians, Bosnians and Macedonians btw?
europian empire? phoo.. at that time, greeks and latins were more related with many mediterrean ethnics(evolved into Arabs later) than with Germans and slavics. if there had not been German invasions, European culture must have been totally different now.
lol people get the impresion that all bosnian muslim women are covered THEY ARE NOT these are just wahabis
Do you live in Bosnia?
Thousands of women are covered. They wear hijab and most aren't salafi.
Go visit Bosnia lol you'll see that most are covered
@@mkgzt Not really... just lately they cover more, because they get payed for it... and, yes, some girls will be covered but drink, have sex etc... just like Christians do. People are not that religious in Bosnia.
is there Muslims in Bosnia ?
razo0og123 half
Muslims are 51% majority in Bosnia.
We are servent of allah and children of prophet adam alaihis salam.we are brothers.love eachother
If only they realize their prophet is also a child rapist
@@mkgzt wrong
with multiple wives claiming israel god while breaking 10 commandments hahha
very nice!!!
ماشاء الله تبارك الرحمن
الله يزيد ويبارك
wow
Soon they going to speak and write in Arabic ....🤦🏻♂️
M G Now what’s your problem?
Arabic is the language of Islam. A lot of Muslims voluntarily learn it to understand their religion better. It was the language of the Ottomans as well as any other Islamic entity throughout history. Some might naturally develop fondness for the language and decide to speak it instead , just like we use English today. In fact, this is what created the Islamic Golden Age, when all of the Ummah was one, and passed their knowledge to one another easily because of our unified language. It’s not an obligation to speak Arabic, you’re absolutely free to do that, just don’t look down on those who try to become progressive individuals in their own right. The sense of our belonging should be to our Religion, brothers and sisters, not the land we were born into. May Allah unite us all, and return us to our former glory 🙏🏻.
@@ahmedmegahed3898 it was never an official lenguage of the Turks
@@sahilyasran3404 fuck off Mo
@M G spot on
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The only difference is church bells and christian traditions are overwhelmingly European while islamic prayers seem completely middle eastern. How is racism is regular reaction? I'll provide you with an example.
I see some foreigner in my country bringing in his culture and way of thinking, I want to limit his/her rights and influence in my country ensure a safe a healthy future for my kinsfolk. In the modern way of "understanding", I am a "racist".
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You can choose to ignore facts but those skulls are cemented to one another. It was built in cold blood. The British empire might have massacred people but they also brought countless inventions and innovations, being part of the British empire ultimately had some benefits included. The Ottomans brought nothing at all except brutality and utter destruction with not a single benefit. It's no wonder why, Turks where nomads on the steppe where any type of brutality was acceptable.
same as the Dutch who invaded and occupied my country for nearly 350 yrs using their very famous strategy, devide et impera (divide and conquer),. In 1592 they came as traders after having knowledge of how rich our soil they came back still as state compagnie (Vereenigde Oostindische Compagnie -VOC) but with the blessing of Queen wilhelmina and full army backed up 3 years later. they stole, took our properties, made us fought each other, captured tortured local people. the only thing they left were the buildings they built for their own people In 1942, japan invaded us and drove them out of this country, In 1949, after WW2, they came back with union troops (Brits, Aussies, US) to reclaim our land but we fought back all out.
What is wrong with growing a beard? Don't your Orthodox monks have beards as well? The hijab and beard are part of Islam just as much as praying and fasting.
prosperityx3 there are a lot of people that grow beards just becuase they like to without religious motivations lol
I'm Albanian muslim from Kosovo. What you say is right only hijab is worn by women as a sign of submission to men. People can either take it well or not. Personnally we muslims are used to it so we're ok with it.
They grow a beard because they have to by law. And they're not supposed to watch TV, listen to radio, send their kids to public schools - only Islamic schools, their wives aren't supposed to go out without the husband, etc.... And not all Orthodox priests have beards.
Towers built of skulls or heads is something the Mongols were known for, not Ottomans, huge mix up. And about the child kidnapping, yes that was horrible. But like I said, the empire was not perfect. I don't think any ruling class in history was perfect. And so you don't consider yourself, culture, language etc to be Slavic and similar to that of with Ukrainians, Czechs, Croats Serbs etc? Why not?
Ottomans are mongoloids
John 3.16-21 Jesus saves
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Orthodox old women appear in Burka which is a Islamic dressing of women. Orthodox are more religious than Muslim .what is wrong having beard. Orthodox preist have beard. ..
Lol. I thought you mean after war, they literally stacked heads on top of each other so high that it made a tower. That is what the Mongols did. Look it up. The Turks didn't kill those Serbs for no reason, there was an uprising. And tbh, you can have your own opinion about the Ottomans, I simply disagree. Soviet Union, British empire etc have killed much more than the Ottomans have, and they ruled for a shorter time.
How many Armenians have the Turks killed?
I accept the brutality of that skull tower, but please do more research on the Ottomans. They've contributed a lot, and many ex-Ottoman countries still hold cultural aspects of the Ottomans. Why would you borrow from the culture of your oppressor? What destruction have they caused? Turkey is doing fine now, minus the recent protests. I read Bulgarians were slav-ized Tatars, and Macedonians just slav-ized Greeks. By "we all" you mean Eastern Europeans right?
Contributions from the ottomans? What you fail to realize is the Ottomans STOLE inventions from the lands they conquered.
I feel so sorry for the Muslim girls.
VALDIGNE
You should feel sorry about yourself.
You should feel sorry for yourself. They are wonderful girls who choose this by themselves.
They are raised in morality.
Tesnima i Ariana su sada velike
2- Even though the Bosnians are not so religious, I've never met one who hated Turks. They are very thankful for Islam. War is what caused all of the ex Yugoslav nations to become poor. And I think it's pretty stupid to hate a generation of today because of the crimes of people from centuries ago, would you like it if someone hated you for being white? Btw, which part of Europe are you from if you don't mind me asking.
No one's thankful for Islam and the slavery it brought. Bosnians nowadays are suffering from a disease called Stockholm syndrome
@@mkgzt Not like christianity which entered with hugs and kisses hahahaha. Bosniaks are suffering Stockholm syndrome but its not about islam, its about how bosniaks are very tolerant towards those who genocided them, the serbs
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Even today we have many pagan traditions that have nothing to do with Christianity at all. Today many people are going back to our pagan religion. It's not that I have any feelings about Islam as a religion, it's just that historically all of our enemies were always muslims. No problem, I study history extensively and enjoy discussing it.
I'm very curious now, are you Turkish?
Invasive Islam
Islam is the majority in Bosnia. It is majority since 600 years. Before that were Bogumils.
@@fisebilillah4406 Christianity is the majority
@@fisebilillah4406 before they were bogomils, Catholic, or Orthodox
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In terms of a normal and sane way of thinking, I'm being a good person by putting the needs of my own people before the needs of foreigners.
You're Bosnian? It's very sad that you believe in fake concept of racism. You guys have been corrupted so badly by the savage invaders that have destroyed your country and culture.
The saddest part is that you don't even seem to hate those and want to punish the invaders unlike, let's say, Serbs and Bulgarians...
ariana is poor and not find way where she can go..........she must stay
And she is welcome there. As you can see, they respect each other.
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My race is white/Europid. All real Wends are white.
Bulgarians originally were most likely Iranic people and not Wends, but they later adopted a Wend language.
Bosnians are Thracians that were conquered by a small group of Wends and adopted their language. Not sure what Macedonians are, I think they're Wends that heavily mixed with the natives of the black sea region.
We all originally came from southern and eastern shores of the Baltic sea.
Stop calling every European a "Wend" -- wends are a small sub group of the overall Slavic tribe lol.
Islam is the only truth
There is no god but ALLAH
La Ilahe il Allah Allah=Christian God. We Abrahmic bois all have the same God... :/
Miki Mouse
Please, before expressing yourself, i suggest you to learn a better english language.
Miki Mouse why should i fuck off? Just because i pointed out your utterly horrible use of the Snglish language?
In any case, your comment remains idiotic even if it was writen in proper English.
You just left a pointless insult without any further argumentation or explaination.
It is called “Freedom of Speech/Expression”, not “Freedom to Insult”.
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By the way, i am Christian.
Miki Mouse actually politically speaking, i am a far-right wing Monarchist/filo fascist and i am against social equality and political correctness.
I just think that someone that only know who only have insults as argumentations simply has no rights to criticize others.
Miki Mouse i am sorry, but i never called you “racist” since the start of this discussion. I only criticized your inexistent arguments and your horrible English.
Also, how are prisons even related to this discussion? And by the way, is physically impossible that another person can manage to eat you from the insides, probably the worst death you can experience in your average modern prison is being beaten to death. But still, how is this even related to the original discussion?
You are completely incapable to both really understand what i say and argue your original statement.
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German invasion of what?
No Latin and Greek culture is much more similar to other European cultures including Slovonic and Germanic than it is to any Arab cultures. The only reason why you don't see Greek culture as that great is because they were under Turkish control for over 400 centuries. Turkish control equals no cultural/societal development of any kind for over 400 years, and it did take its toll.
Nope it was definitely the Turks that built towers of skulls.
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No empire has been perfect but what the Ottomans have done greatly surpasses anything any other empire ever did.
There is simply no such this as "Slavic" it's a fake made up term that was never used in a historical context.
We are Wends. Ukrainians are a mixture of Wends and Cossacks, Czechs are Alpine Wends, Croats and Serbs are Wends with Balkanic influences.
Yes I consider these people to be similar to us.
Wends are a sub group of the Slavic tribes
Wrong. Serbs and Croats are from the sclavenian sub group of the overall Slavic tribe
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whahabi sekt lol there is no such think as whahabi sekt there are muslims that practice islam why we suposed to practice NO WHAHABI stop calling muslims that practice islam whahabi
0:40, mislio sam da je prasetina haram u islamu hahahahahhaah
This is the first time I'm hearing about the "Wends", I thought Russians came from the Rus tribe. Thanks for all your information. Anywho, The Ottomans contributed much to art, science and architecture. Idk why you hate them and Islam so much... your people were about to be Muslims if you didn't love vodka so much ;p
Ignore him. Wends are a really small sub group of Slavic tribes
Ottomans didn't contribute. They stole from others
Serbian village ethnicaly cleansed?!!! C'mon that can't be true , they must have left themselves same as 30 000 must have commited suicide during the war...according to the Hague tribunal :-p this is just a stupid attempt to discredit serbian right to their own freedom, propagating a unified Bosnia under Sarajevo muslim rule.