How To Learn Drop 2 Jazz Chords The Right Way

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  • @JensLarsen
    @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    How do you practice Jazz Chords? Share good tips and exercises :)
    Content:
    0:00 Intro
    0:35 Keep it Practical
    1:11 3 Types of Drop2 voicings
    1:23 Basic Set of Voicings - Finding Chords For Solar
    3:23 Chorus 1
    4:02 Analysis of Chorus 1 - How To Remember The Chords
    7:04 Adding Melody - Making Music
    7:31 Chorus 2
    7:58 Analysis - From Chords to Musical Statements
    8:53 Expanding What You can Play
    9:24 Chorus 3
    9:50 Analysis - Adding the voicings that fit with what we already know
    11:13 Like the video? Check out my Patreon Page

    • @christiankurtboutot5658
      @christiankurtboutot5658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      So Great Jens...I understand !!!! thanks for what you share with us. I consider this as a human gift coming from heart and passion.
      Sorry for the stupid comments I said about your vidéo on scales practicing.
      Christian

  • @JuanG.AcostaHABITACIONSONORA
    @JuanG.AcostaHABITACIONSONORA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I've seen how your work have been improving more and more over this past 2 or 3 years, it's pretty amazing that you are still getting better and better with each video. Congrats and thanks for your work!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! That's really great to hear :)

  • @pyschointellectual
    @pyschointellectual ปีที่แล้ว

    The best method i have seen yet to get started with jazz comping, amazing work Jens. Love the way you delivered the lesson adding a whole diatonic chird scale. It so much more interesting to learn a complete scale and practice in a practical musical way rather than just copying a four chord patten. MORE PLEASE

  • @gamzer
    @gamzer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I love your advice about associating the voicings with chords you already know. Some advice I wish I had years ago but discovered eventually and really made the drop2 inversions stick! Picked up some new ideas here too about reusing voicings. Great video!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's great that you can put it to use! I do think that is so essential in learning new things :)

  • @clyderichardson6475
    @clyderichardson6475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks so much Jens. Your videos always push me forward.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you can put it to use 🙂

  • @christiankurtboutot5658
    @christiankurtboutot5658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I reaaaaly apreciate your vidéos Jens because I ubderstand what you explain. Though sometimes you go fast and I have to stop to understand !!!! lol
    You are the "Solar" !!!!!
    Thanks Jens
    ....so many things to practice...it never ends that s why maybe muzik is so passionating for we always "run " after something new to learn, that we "need" to know.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go for it Christian! :)

    • @christiankurtboutot5658
      @christiankurtboutot5658 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JensLarsen Do not thank me for you are the one who must be principally thanked at first !!!!

  • @henrikduende
    @henrikduende 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    9 people didn’t like this.... what’s wrong with the lesson??
    It’s clear and to the point. Does’t waste our time etc 🤷🏻‍♂️. What the hell did they expect ??

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You can't please everybody :)

    • @JohnMcGFrance
      @JohnMcGFrance 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I suspect that it was too much for some people to understand the topic. However, that’s not a reason to dislike In my opinion. I’m new to jazz guitar and this was beyond me but I learned a few things and appreciate Jens putting it up. Hopefully I’ll come ba to it in a years time and get more from it. It was worth watching just to hear him play.

  • @rogerball6265
    @rogerball6265 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @Jens Larsen, Very good use of drop 2 voicings, especially in the context of a song. One thing you might want include is that sometimes those voicings with the highest voice on the 1st string may in many circumstances are not the best choices when a guitarist is accompanying a soloist. They may be better suited when accompanying a bass solo. This point could be the subject of another video lesson. There are many guidelines that apply to how a guitarist voices chords as an accompanist.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They work fine with a soloist, but as always you have to listen so that you don't clash.

  • @merttalay9702
    @merttalay9702 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love you man.Your videos are very well.Just respect!!!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you Mert :)

  • @dionmbd1328
    @dionmbd1328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've been playing guitar for fun for a while but I missed some of the basics. Sometimes I don't know where to start to learn them but your channel has been a big help! Thank you so much!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really glad you like the videos :)

  • @pororin60
    @pororin60 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Mr. Larsen, Tons of thanks from Kobe JAPAN. Great lessons I love. Masaki SHIMAZAKI

  • @salvadorgarcia8661
    @salvadorgarcia8661 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Como siempre una excelente lección. Muchas gracias maestro.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you Salvador! Glad you like it!

  • @Dang...
    @Dang... 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad it was helpful 🙂

  • @beraldolilli8965
    @beraldolilli8965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jens. really enjoyed this lesson.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad to hear it :)

  • @bertkeely
    @bertkeely ปีที่แล้ว +1

    so helpful! letting in the occasional 9th gives color and economy. Btw you probably already know, but around 9:45 I think the Ebm7 tab that shows 8869 (ascending) should be 8879 (a 9th wouldn't help there!) cheers

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like it 🙂 Yes, my sheet music often has a typo here and there

  • @EclecticEssentric
    @EclecticEssentric 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for your time. Always informative, even if not my genre (which is the reason that I watch). Learning can't always be simple and easy, ya know?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      True, but hopefully it isn't all uphill? :)

    • @EclecticEssentric
      @EclecticEssentric 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JensLarsen No worries, I'm a mountain man.
      I've learned more in 8 months than I previously did in 3 decades, I love every grueling second of practice because it is working magic where before was only mundane. :)

  • @RobertoManzoli
    @RobertoManzoli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I appreciate the effort saving in arranging the accompaniment, in fact I learned a lot from this video. But I have a note to make: the first C minor chord, in the original version of "Solar" has the major seventh, in fact the second note of the theme is a natural B, which creates a dissonance with the Cm6 chord. Thanks for the dose of Jazz.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Natural 7th is not dissonant against the Cm6 chord, and for tonic minor chords Cm6 and CmMaj7 are interchangeable.

    • @RobertoManzoli
      @RobertoManzoli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JensLarsen You are right. Plus I was wrong about the first chord. I asked to my teachers at the conservatory and they told me the first chord of "Solar" is Cm6. I was confused because I had found a sheet with the CmMaj7. Thanks again!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertoManzoli No worries :)

    • @mjazzguitar
      @mjazzguitar 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobertoManzoli I wonder if you could write that Cm#7. Most musicians would probably know what it meant.

    • @RobertoManzoli
      @RobertoManzoli 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mjazzguitar Although Cm#7 is almost never used to indicate a CmMaj7 it would simply be: 9888 one the first 4 strings. Now I have a question for you which scales would you use to improvise on the first chord of "Solar"?

  • @ninoingravido1069
    @ninoingravido1069 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! Glad you like it!

  • @stevewebertampainvestments2097
    @stevewebertampainvestments2097 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    First comment woohoo. This video is perfect, really appreciate it.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Glad you like it, Steve!

  • @jumemowery9434
    @jumemowery9434 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You're the best Jens!!!

  • @mikkinmusic1886
    @mikkinmusic1886 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Jens!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are very welcome 🙂

  • @GBKim_Guitar
    @GBKim_Guitar 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love this lecture!❤

  • @joseluiscaballero1125
    @joseluiscaballero1125 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much teacher, you are really humble yo make better musician un the wolrd, cheers for you. Todo bless you.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My pleasure! Glad you like the videos!

    • @joseluiscaballero1125
      @joseluiscaballero1125 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      God bless you master, i really apreciate your teaches, im very glad for talk with people like you, humble and generous. God bless you every day, greetings from Cancún, México. I'm guitarist too, but i need study much to be better, and every day i seen you videos, really thankfull with you master.

    • @joseluiscaballero1125
      @joseluiscaballero1125 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JensLarsen th-cam.com/video/fFTq6ugvgwc/w-d-xo.html

  • @bubba4001
    @bubba4001 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jens,
    The chord symbols beginning around 1:25 in the video shows the forth chord as a Cma6. What does that indicate? Sorry if this is a silly question. Great lesson and inspirational. Thank you.
    Regards,
    David

  • @Patriciovaldivieso
    @Patriciovaldivieso 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Quality stuff, thanks for posting.

  • @Betterthantelly
    @Betterthantelly 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson thank you. I know all those shapes but get confused when trying too hard to invert whatever chord is occurring thereby losing my place!!

  • @ЕвгенийГорбачёв-ф7у
    @ЕвгенийГорбачёв-ф7у 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Larsen .Мне очень нравятся твои уроки,особенно этот.Спасибо друг.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You're very welcome :)

  • @davidbrunner2583
    @davidbrunner2583 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello thanks for the amazing videos and help you are giving!! It has helped me so much. Quick question though, kind of unrelated to the video, but whenever practicing a new scale I usually think of it with intervals, such as the Root, 3, 7, 6, ect. Should I instead visualize the specific notes inside of the scale, such as A, C#, G#, F#, ect. Or does it even matter? Thank you for your help.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you like the videos! I actually think both, sort of, I don't really think about it to be honest.

  • @johnhannon9349
    @johnhannon9349 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Jens. I play a lot in a duo with a sax player. In another video (about 3 levels of chords) you say that voicings with the root on the 6th or 5th strings are good for duo playing, and rootless voicings are good for band work. What do you think Drop 2 voicings are good for? Are they good for duo work? Or is it easier for the other instrument to hear the root note of the chord on the 6th or 5th strings?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Some drop 2 voicings have the root as the lowest note and work extremely well for duo. It really depends on how important you think it is to have the bass note in there.

  • @gabriellaskalodimosartandc7100
    @gabriellaskalodimosartandc7100 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson! I was just wondering about something else. There was a video where you talked about how to use the chord melody from Stairway to heaven in standards where the same composition technique could be used. Do you remember what video it was?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! I think it was this one: jenslarsen.nl/the-real-magic-of-jazz-chords-easy-amazing/

  • @peropen
    @peropen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This came in in such a handy time! I've been practicing m6 chords and they really open up a lot of comping and chord melody possibilities. From what I've seen so far, they work on all chords in a minor ii-v-i (in gm6: am7b5/d7b9b13-gm6) and as the V of a major V-I (d7/9). Are there other uses?

    • @peropen
      @peropen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And they also work wonders in a minor i-iv-v, like minor swing (in gm: gm6, cm6, d7b9b13)

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That is great! Yes that way of using a few voicings to play a lot of chords is very effective :)

  • @daviddangerous9365
    @daviddangerous9365 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Jens, thanks for the great video! I was looking but couldnt find a video of you talking about drop 3 chords. Is it for a reason? Best!

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't talk about drop3 chords that much because the ones with the root in the bass are far more useful than the rest, so I have videos where I cover those and then I didn't really feel the need to cover the other inversions

    • @daviddangerous9365
      @daviddangerous9365 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JensLarsen Hey Jens, interesting reply, thank you!
      I started to practice drop 3 inversion for comping in duo situations. Is that a waste of time? :D Why are the drop 3 inversions less "useful" (as I understood you)?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@daviddangerous9365 Because the lowest note really wants to be a bass note and in the inversions rarely is.
      Another very practical observation: where do you see the inversion used a lot in comping?

    • @daviddangerous9365
      @daviddangerous9365 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JensLarsen Okay makes sense. Also yes, havent see that actually.
      So "Rule of thumb" when comping with a singer would be root in bass more often than not?
      thanks again for your kind replies :)

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@daviddangerous9365 If you play in duo then you are mostly playing the root in the bass. There are people who use drop3 of course but it is a lot less common :)

  • @Cooltorpedo
    @Cooltorpedo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video. On one hand I like the practical approach of adapting the voices to the given chords in a progression from a real tune. On the other I'd like the lesson more general so we can do the same thing on any progression by just looking at the degree every voice has into the scale. To me the hard part isn't as much understanding how different intervals make different chords, but finding those notes in the fret and being able to push them in real time. Any hints?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks! That sounds like you want to construct the chords while playing, that is probably too much thinking while trying to make music?

    • @Cooltorpedo
      @Cooltorpedo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JensLarsen Yup, probably much thinking to be practical in a real life making music situation, but being able to know where you are and where are you going to by simply changing one note is what I'd like to be able to.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cooltorpedo Changing one note is not the same as constructing an entirely new voicing.
      You need to factor in that we only play certain progressions and that you are starting with a voicing that you probably already know.
      Then it just boils down to practicing options and starting with chords you really know.

    • @Cooltorpedo
      @Cooltorpedo 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JensLarsenSure, what I mean is that you need to know how every note in the new voicing relates to the original chord, so if you decide to move into a parallel modulation or shifting into a minor melodic sound, you can still apply those voicings by changing just the proper note.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Cooltorpedo Yes, but that is about knowing a few voicings really well and not about knowing where all the notes are on the fretboard. And it is something you practice until you hear it, so it is about learning to hear things and be able to execute them.
      To me, it sounds like you only consider the capacity to imagine it from a theoretical point of view, not as an internalized musical skill.
      If you want to use melodic minor on a chord you need to just know your melodic minor voicings and play those, not think about which note is the 7th and change that to a 6th. That is too much thinking, that belongs in the practice room.

  • @hansbendixen5430
    @hansbendixen5430 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    det er nemlig rigtigt hæhæ great lesson as always

  • @daviddahl8562
    @daviddahl8562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hey Jens measure 12You hav C7 chord with add D note shouldn't that be C79 or C9

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  ปีที่แล้ว

      In jazz, the one playing the chords is free to interpret the chord symbol and add the extensions and alterations that fit how he or she is playing. For that reason, I usually try to stick with the chord type and not specify the extensions like 9 or b9.

  • @larrylorenzen2449
    @larrylorenzen2449 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    where did the term 'drop 2' come from? dropping the lowest 2 strings from the chord?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I explain drop voicings in this video th-cam.com/video/cxTdnBn7ljQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @allengoyne
    @allengoyne 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    did I miss it or did you say why they are called drop 2? I never really understood that terminology.

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know if I explained it in this video, but otherwise you can demystify them here: th-cam.com/video/cxTdnBn7ljQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @shiv2033
    @shiv2033 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am confused between drop 2 voicings and inversions now.Are they the same thing?In drop 2 voicings you drop the second highest note of the chord but you have used inversions instead of dropping the second highest note of the chord.I am really confused,plz make one more video on this🙏🙏

    • @churlesjenkins4338
      @churlesjenkins4338 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know its been a year since you posted this but I'll try to explain it 😂
      So we have 4 notes in a chord. In drop voicings, you're taking the chord as it is in that position, and dropping 1 or 2 notes. This means 2 of the notes stay the same and they stay in that position. Only now, you have some of the notes that used to be in the higher register more in the bass, but some of the positioning stays the same. For inversions, you're taking what can be either a closed voicing, open, or drop voicing, and arranging all of the notes within the chord at the same time to create different interval orders for every note. Simply put, drop voicings is taking just 1 or 2 notes of a chord position and dropping them down to the bass. Sort of an inversion, but not a full inversion. Inversions on the other hand is rotating every single note around to achieve different note orders and intervals.

  • @tedpowers2045
    @tedpowers2045 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jen’s Can I contribute with a one time dollar amount?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, certainly. There is a PayPal donation button in the sidebar on my website 🙂

  • @daviddahl8562
    @daviddahl8562 ปีที่แล้ว

    Also FM7 13th measure you have a G note in the chord I think there 's something I don't understand

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  ปีที่แล้ว

      See my other reply!

  • @matt.5249
    @matt.5249 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    For the cm6 would the A not be an Ab because it’s in minor?

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      No, that would be Cm(b6) 🙂

  • @joaosal8891
    @joaosal8891 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    what is that guitar that's hanging on the wall? the first one counting from left to right...

    • @JensLarsen
      @JensLarsen  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is my Yamaha SG1000 :)

    • @joaosal8891
      @joaosal8891 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JensLarsen just beautiful

  • @stefanovon
    @stefanovon 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    ... Gm7... campfire chord actually :-)

  • @Junglesmells
    @Junglesmells ปีที่แล้ว

    My parents don’t eat meat

  • @cfibanez
    @cfibanez 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great lesson Jens! Thanks very much!