LUDWIG Speed Flyer and Speed King pedal REVIEW

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  • @Kuba-hs4ns
    @Kuba-hs4ns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    Such tasteful drumming.... Someone needs to make a whole album out of his solos. I could litterly just listen to him playing for hours.

    • @rippindrummer666
      @rippindrummer666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      He’s recording his solo album right now, or he just finished it

    • @timsears951
      @timsears951 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      very tasteful indeed..nice footwork...

    • @i3zd
      @i3zd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really waiting for somebody to transcribe all of the incredible playing on his channel, so many grooves...

    • @Kuba-hs4ns
      @Kuba-hs4ns 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brett Alfred no, no one cares. F o*

    • @Subliminalpropaganda
      @Subliminalpropaganda 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally, not trash (litter)

  • @drummerscomplex2340
    @drummerscomplex2340 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    “My feet aren’t great”... bro, come on, take it easy on a brother. Phenomenal as always, too damn tasteful.

  • @darry_lavis
    @darry_lavis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    0:34 - I dig the subtle For Big Sid reference, cool way of playing it!

  • @Pigsandpies1984
    @Pigsandpies1984 4 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    All his equipment reviews are just another way of saying it doesn't matter what kind of equipment you use. Good ears, good tuning, musical and tasteful playing. He could make anything sound great. But I'm buying that Speed Flyer so I can play better.

    • @jackjames7806
      @jackjames7806 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Joel Tabularasa hahaha right on

    • @Paisteconvert
      @Paisteconvert 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have a bad right ankle due to an Achilles tendon detachment sometime ago and I've been using the predecessor to the Speed Flyer (the Atlas Pro pedal) for about two years. I tried the DW 9000 and while it's a very smooth and fast pedal, it's so smooth that I have no "feel" with it and I was, consequently, using a DW 5000 Delta 3 Accelerator. The Atlas Pro pedal has enabled me to play better with less effort than the 5000, but still be able to "feel" the action of the pedal, so the DW has been retired to "back-up" status. I need to try this upgraded Speed Flyer!

  • @snareaddict
    @snareaddict 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    You don’t have a great foot?? Ha!!! You’re foot and you’re playing is stellar! I don’t enjoy listening to drums by themselves. That being said, I can listen to you for hours. One of my favorites.

  • @rippindrummer666
    @rippindrummer666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Totally agree about the 9000 being over engineered, I used a double of it for years and it drove me crazy trying to get it to feel a certain way. So many freakin adjustments on the 9000 that will make you lose your mind getting it to feel right. I don’t want to learn a certain technique to use a pedal, I just want it to do what my foot does.

    • @jmdrummer7
      @jmdrummer7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agree 100%, I picked up a 9000 10 yrs. ago, worked with it for a day and took it back. Too many adjustments, now using a 3000 with a 5000 for a back up. Will definitely look into the Speed King, my pedal of choice back in the 80's.

  • @bruno-nw9qm
    @bruno-nw9qm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    2:42 "my feet aren´t great"

  • @michaelphillippi4676
    @michaelphillippi4676 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Been playing drums since I was 6, never learned to to do that, damn sure learned to appreciate how sweet it sounds.

  • @msyracuse
    @msyracuse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review and commentary! I like how you showed the pedal's spring response by touch and go, as well as lengthy samples of each pedal and beater. Thanks for posting

  • @CallingAllDrummers
    @CallingAllDrummers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Please do more videos like these! they are literally much better than other reviews and way more informative!

  • @asimnicholsmusic
    @asimnicholsmusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m so used to my DW 5000 but now I feel like I need to have a SF. Was thinking about about a Pearl Demon Drive but I love the simplicity and functionality of this SF. Thanks for the demo.

  • @Rockin_Ross
    @Rockin_Ross 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I have an original Speed King and it’s fabulous! Breaks down flat for easy transport and can take any beater I give it.
    The direct drive nature of it takes a bit getting used to, but it’s really great all around. Doesn’t squeak yet, but give it time.😂😂

  • @coachcrane6636
    @coachcrane6636 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review Carter! I am looking to upgrade my pedal and you just solidified me getting the Speed Flyer. Looking forward to taking another lesson with you soon.
    Take care,
    Corey

  • @BenjaminGib
    @BenjaminGib 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for the awesome demos, Carter. 🙌🏼👌🏼

  • @BostonDrummer
    @BostonDrummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video and I have my eye on these pedals since their announcement at NAMM. Also, thanks for playing first then chatting last in the video. All too often videos have someone rambling on in a self-promotional way for the first 5 minutes before getting to the meat.

  • @jasonbone7033
    @jasonbone7033 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I so appreciate this demo as I am interested in both Pedals. Excellent info here as always. I'm still in search of your Signature stick. Thanks again!

  • @rubytuesday1345
    @rubytuesday1345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome playing as always Carter. The Ghost was my favorite Ludwig pedal. No question.

  • @rafaelestrada1846
    @rafaelestrada1846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I bought a speed flyer earlier this week and it's great. I love it. It feels super natural and light, like there's nothing under your foot. And yet if you lay into it, it smacks the drum with a wallop!

    • @susanmaggiora4800
      @susanmaggiora4800 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rafael Estrada Cool. I’m a fan of light pedals (and straps). Some of the top of the line pedals feel a bit too heavy for me & I’ve never been a big fan of chain drives. They feel too...‘mechanical,’ I guess?

  • @BobbyJetty1502
    @BobbyJetty1502 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Holy moly 🤯 at 1:00 in. I had to go back and watch it like 20 times. This cat is no joke!

  • @julianovanderpool6867
    @julianovanderpool6867 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i use a speed king that's probably from the 70's (I got it c. 1987)... super fast. the best pedal i've ever used. I always liked to joke that there's only two people who use the speed king- me and john bonham.

  • @RC-jv6ye
    @RC-jv6ye 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing Speed King!! My main pedal

  • @goosegaskins
    @goosegaskins 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Than you for the review, and thank you for the incredible drumming. I just bought a used Speed Flyer from Guitar Center after watching this. Cheers!

  • @jesusbs9780
    @jesusbs9780 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great pedal used by great drummer!
    Good video man

    • @michaelphillippi4676
      @michaelphillippi4676 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The man’s percussion skills are finer than frog hair.

  • @pgoindi
    @pgoindi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I didn't recognise the Speed King without the patented squeak (which I kind of love), lol.

  • @bryanubaghs406
    @bryanubaghs406 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've got the Ludwig Atlas Pro, which looks much like the Flyer, but, with red detailing. Love it.

    • @toddcapiton6285
      @toddcapiton6285 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Agreed, got the rad hi hat stand too. Added Gibraltar Kevlar straps. This is the same pedal just doesn’t look as cool.
      I’m a Yamaha guy, went to get the latest, played it, felt like a toy. This was BEFORE the current amazing FP9. Anyway was real bummed and started playing all pedals without even going to buy one and was blown away by the quality, feel, details on the atlas. Bought the double right there, still love it. Tough af, no slop, COMFORTABLE (DW pedals have that silly tall heel plate and feel so sluggish). I was coming from a beautiful but awful feeling trick dominator with that hoop chip clip they use for some reason. Yeah going from straps to direct drive, terrible idea. Even a year later I still felt I needed to go back. Ludwig hardware was re designed a while back by a young engineer, and is all fantastic. Recommend it. I also use the low boy felt, INSANE thump first hit. You won’t need another beater ever

  • @orti1283
    @orti1283 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    2:44 That death metal was sick!!

  • @ryrodrums6727
    @ryrodrums6727 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ive not liked my 9000 since i got it, but i keep using it for some reason.. Constantly adjusting it and can't settle.

  • @user-xl2vl4oq2n
    @user-xl2vl4oq2n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    В руках мастера всё всегда отлично работает!!!👍👍👍

  • @mellilore
    @mellilore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great timing with this Ludwig pedal review: the Company started out 111 years ago with a pedal!!! ;)

  • @SinclairLott
    @SinclairLott 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great playing as usual. Thanks for the Max quote.

    • @harchitb
      @harchitb ปีที่แล้ว

      Where was it

  • @davidsuprenant893
    @davidsuprenant893 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your foot is incredible Carter,you be a rabbit foot.! Great video showcasing the pedals,but man you have incredible foot technique. Unbelievable!!!

  • @rubenspoolder3567
    @rubenspoolder3567 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice tshirt my guy! also great playing as always

  • @luboetr
    @luboetr 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great presentation man! Thanks a lot, you are a great drummer!

  • @jean-david-ouellette
    @jean-david-ouellette 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tasty groovy chops AND an Eagles of Death Metal t-shirt? That's too much awesome to handle in one video

  • @mlklotusmann6749
    @mlklotusmann6749 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent legit review thank you!

  • @timsears951
    @timsears951 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    impressive bass drum work...

  • @catfishmudflap
    @catfishmudflap 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice drumming. My question would be, can you set the angle of the pedal on the speed flyer? I have the speed king and it doesn't seem possible to set an angle so that the beater is square with the drum. To compensate I tilt the bass drum back toward the pedal, but I thought there might be some pedals that account for that.

    • @joeakaradej8666
      @joeakaradej8666 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, you can.
      I just bought it last week, I could adjust up & down footboard to the way I like independently from beater angle.
      Is my answer to late? 😂😂
      Do you still use this pedal?

  • @jean-pierrethouin2404
    @jean-pierrethouin2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Interesting...
    On my Speed Flyer, i have the
    CAM almost at the other end of
    the setting....
    I must try this ONE.
    But let me tell you, this is a
    WINNER on All aspects
    WOW! You will love it.
    Jp.

  • @chriswright8464
    @chriswright8464 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cool drumming.

  • @J-DUB-F1
    @J-DUB-F1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn you!!.....such clean articulation it hurts my feelings!!.
    Once again you make a strong case for Fiberskyns!.
    And I'll trust that Ludwig pedal does not suck ;:-)
    Interesting you mention the DW 9000. I once recorded a very serious local player. I had one on hand to use. His thoughts were that, it felt SO smooth and precise...like well oiled rifle bolt action, that it was almost too well engineered.. As a result, he couldn't get really comfortable with it, and ended up going with his old Tama Flexi Flyer ;:-)

  • @corneliusknudsen670
    @corneliusknudsen670 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    so nice !

  • @Shedthemusic
    @Shedthemusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you playing! Weird question, what dialog mic are you using?

  • @jean-pierrethouin2404
    @jean-pierrethouin2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do not under-estimate yourself,
    YOU are a " Great. " drummer.
    Althow being Humble has it's
    Place.
    I abselutely LOVE your playing
    Jp.

  • @jean-pierrethouin2404
    @jean-pierrethouin2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Correction...
    Your playing is Outstanding.
    Keep it up.

  • @ronmontney555
    @ronmontney555 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, Speed King guy for as many years.
    I'll give the new one a try.
    Question, I noticed the Atlas drum throne. How wide is the seat ?
    The pork pie is 15 inches wide.
    How does the Ludwig Atlas throne feel ?
    How does the padding compare to pork pie ?
    I'm 6 ft 298 pounds. Can Ludwig Atlas support that weight ?
    The speed flyer looks great !!

  • @carrotsoup7264
    @carrotsoup7264 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    not gona lie, this is better than a solo. And this bass drum is insane. Thanks

  • @lancenicholas8520
    @lancenicholas8520 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Carter, I really appreciate your drumming, and what you have to say on our instrument. What's going on with your signature stick?

  • @nynone4
    @nynone4 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The snare / bass fill at 1:00. WOW.

    • @yourdogsnews
      @yourdogsnews 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Boyitellyouhwhat I disagree.

  • @RockRabbitGaming
    @RockRabbitGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Carter!
    Great groove as always. What did you change up in your bassdrum at 3:00?

    • @user-qj2cq4dv3k
      @user-qj2cq4dv3k 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      He changed the whole kick drum lol, he probably removed any muffling and tightened the heads

  • @EsteBandido_YT
    @EsteBandido_YT 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello! Any thoughts on the DW 5000 series?
    Right now I'm trying to decide between:
    Ludwig Speed King 2020 (because of obvious Bonham reasons)
    DW 5000 (maybe the Turbo variant or a double chain one [Dave Grohl nirvana days])
    Tama Irom Cobra (because of Stewart Copeland)

  • @shumonjohnson6077
    @shumonjohnson6077 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    🔥

  • @jaymuise6924
    @jaymuise6924 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bad ass Mo Fo...dood u gott it goin on..damn !!

  • @seffyjanze
    @seffyjanze 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    2:39 yes

  • @MrDavesf
    @MrDavesf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lovely. dynamics, really nice indeed!

  • @pbldrum
    @pbldrum 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Carter. Will you you get your Lion King pit gig back when concerts and theater are safe to attend again? I must have heard you play, cause we went to NYC and saw it several years back..... I'm a pedal hoarder. New or used, I can't get enough. Constantly buying online. I've had my eye on this Speed Flyer and I'm about to pull the trigger. Most of my drummer friends all love the 9000.but I like the Mapex Falcon single much more. My latest discovery is the Drumnetics Magnetic pedal. It has a great feel and the repulsion is fully adjustable. Super quiet design.

  • @rafaelestrada1846
    @rafaelestrada1846 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love my speed flyer

  • @ajgdrums24
    @ajgdrums24 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice shoes, I'm literally wearing the same exact ones right now lol

  • @jean-pierrethouin2404
    @jean-pierrethouin2404 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Review...Mostly very
    Honest.I went to get the Flyer,
    My best pedal ever so far; especially for the PRICE.
    TX. Jp.

  • @chicanochops
    @chicanochops 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Premium content ♨️

  • @BxCortez2050
    @BxCortez2050 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great foot werk

  • @user-xl2vl4oq2n
    @user-xl2vl4oq2n 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Отличный пример как нужно играть сложные париии Bass барабана без кардана!!!🤘🤘🤘👍👍👍

  • @williamcookmiller6997
    @williamcookmiller6997 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sixties speed king was my first pedal. It sounded like a rusty gate.

  • @jangobango2847
    @jangobango2847 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Daaamn bro those shoes, what are they? the pedals are nice too 🤣 oh and the playing as always

  • @MrNikolab
    @MrNikolab 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Эээ офигеть разнообразные и красивые рисунки! Пожалуй это надо разучить!

  • @roybeckerman7843
    @roybeckerman7843 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great sounding snare.
    What might it be..?

  • @toddstrong1353
    @toddstrong1353 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    @cartermac how would you compare the Speed Flyer to the previous Atlas pedal? They look about the same with the exception of cosmetics. Are they the same?

  • @ToddTheJoker
    @ToddTheJoker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They look smooth but Carter is such a great drummer he can probably make any pedal look like it plays awesome.

  • @mikekelly9851
    @mikekelly9851 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first 2 pedals where Speed King. Back then they were notorious for being noisy, if fact on one of the Led Zepplin songs you can actually hear it squeak. When I bought them back then they were only $25, and a pair of drumsticks were $1.25

  • @schmargle
    @schmargle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, look who has fancy feet. (Excellent playing, as usual.)

  • @CHEWEDOUTNH
    @CHEWEDOUTNH 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like your shoes. What are they?

  • @Orebolo87
    @Orebolo87 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great footwear 👍🏽

  • @MrFunkyjive
    @MrFunkyjive 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    DW pedals are weird feeling to me. It seems like they're too heavy. I love my Ludwig classic. The non-solid base helps with sideways motion which makes it feel more free. I like the old Asba Caroline pedal as well, someone needs to make that one again.

    • @raymondlugo9960
      @raymondlugo9960 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm loving my DW9000s. I wore through my Ludwig Standard pedals.

    • @MyDyerMaker
      @MyDyerMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree on them being too heavy. I went to the atlas pro pedal a few years back and love that pedal. Smooth and quick.

  • @fightingforourlives
    @fightingforourlives 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    how fast does the speed flyer feel compared to the speed king reissue , with weight and speed on your foot? is their a big difference?.. i can't decide... thanks!

  • @rhythmista7707
    @rhythmista7707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seriously considering this pedal for its sheer simplicity and efficacy..

  • @mattryan6886
    @mattryan6886 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hell yea EODM !!!!

  • @gregpeller1499
    @gregpeller1499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "What a dream job! I would love to drown in Carter's 'pool of percussion'.... Don't worry Carter, I'd have my next of kin sign a release not holding you liable....."🥁🥁🥁

  • @diddyhayes
    @diddyhayes 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How sturdy is it? Looks a bit light compared to Iron Cobra or DW etc

  • @kevinbothwell8425
    @kevinbothwell8425 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do each of these compare in feel to something like a dw 9000? I love my 9000, but I'm always looking for new tools 😬😬😬

    • @Twoholesofman
      @Twoholesofman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Watch the video, he specifically talks about it.

    • @kevinbothwell8425
      @kevinbothwell8425 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Twoholesofman good lookin out! I started the video earlier but couldn't finish. Should figured he'd talk about it 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

  • @josteinv.jordet257
    @josteinv.jordet257 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    👏

  • @robertdowler8105
    @robertdowler8105 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I had one after a Camco.

  • @5amJones69
    @5amJones69 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    where's that kid sample from? at 6:14 ????

  • @alanmikkelsen400
    @alanmikkelsen400 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that a 18" bass drum? Amazing sound and groove!

  • @RR-zs7si
    @RR-zs7si 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello, you are doing great, I really like the overall feeling in your video. Can you introduce your recording equipment, thank you

  • @raymondlugo9960
    @raymondlugo9960 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is that a Ludwig Standard bass drum? :)

  • @z.k.oliver
    @z.k.oliver 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    When will your sticks be available?

    • @rippindrummer666
      @rippindrummer666 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s told people on Instagram he doesn’t know for sure many a times now my good buddy, hopefully soon though!

  • @gabrielbrasilmadureira8525
    @gabrielbrasilmadureira8525 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Uau!

  • @sostraightedge
    @sostraightedge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Big fan of your drumming. Any videos/resources you would recommend to help become proficient at the slide technique?
    edit* Around 6:30 you say you don't have any specific technique, but the question still stands.

    • @aakashchaturvedi6400
      @aakashchaturvedi6400 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This really helped me develop my foot technique when I started out on the drums:
      th-cam.com/video/xCCJyYIBK9s/w-d-xo.html

    • @theHumanBryno
      @theHumanBryno 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Jojo Mayer has a DVD that covers foot technique that is comprehensive.

  • @pabloordas3775
    @pabloordas3775 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    neat max roach reference ;)

  • @Josephineampong72
    @Josephineampong72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How long is that pedal

  • @rubdenub
    @rubdenub 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i had it on 1,5 speed, was like wtf this guy is fast!

  • @branwerks6978
    @branwerks6978 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Link for sneakers ?

  • @christopherpederson1021
    @christopherpederson1021 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is a clinic.

  • @jameshersheysr7194
    @jameshersheysr7194 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is that one of the reissue Speed Kings......seem them on TH-cam NAMM

  • @jesseleite
    @jesseleite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You still using the speed flyer as your main pedal, 8 months later? PS. Incredible playing man!

  • @jimbizness3864
    @jimbizness3864 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ruby strata Ludwig Standard set!

  • @caferrara
    @caferrara ปีที่แล้ว

    How is the BD muffled?

  • @dr.threatening8622
    @dr.threatening8622 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Real most important of questions.....
    Those shoes, what are they? They look nice.

    • @harchitb
      @harchitb ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The brand is 'on'

  • @handidrummer
    @handidrummer ปีที่แล้ว

    Good God I forgot that Carter had such a fast foot

  • @paulocanecarlthedamnjohnson
    @paulocanecarlthedamnjohnson ปีที่แล้ว

    9:10 I use a speed king and I play street punk lol but it’s very simple kick stuff nothing complicated

  • @andrewhencke7108
    @andrewhencke7108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Carter - these appear to be 18" kicks (?) Any advice on where to set beater contact point on the 18" head? Looks like you are about dead center here. I'm using 18" drum and the Ludwig Atlas - very nice and very adjustable - with the included redline felt beater. If I set contact at center or near center of head, the pedal action gets kinda strange. Right now I'm a little less than 1/2 way from the center to the rim and it's just ok but with too much bounce back off the head. And yeah I've got the head about as loose as possible without the claws rattling. Idk if this makes any sense but any advice would be great. And wonderful musical playing as usual. Thank you.

    • @elithepitbulldog2209
      @elithepitbulldog2209 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I prefer 18” kicks. I put mine on a 2” riser and the beater hits dead in the middle

    • @mellilore
      @mellilore 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I bet my right ball that's a 20" kick. Now let's just hope I'm right....

    • @paulshaum3421
      @paulshaum3421 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mellilore The first one is either a 20" or a 22". that line never offered anything else

    • @rhythmista7707
      @rhythmista7707 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's a 20x14 Ludwig Standard model bass drum from the late 60s or early 70s.