When the “whiny” F1s were racing in Melbourne, you could hear and smell them suburbs away. At the track the engine noise went right through you and the gear changes were like explosions. An unforgettable experience.
My Dad worked in F1 for about 20 years. In the 90s, I used to spend pretty much every other weekend at Silverstone as back then they allowed in season testing. Standing on the pit wall was incredible and I've never experienced the extreme noise, the ground shaking and the pitch of sound like that in anything else. You simply have no idea how extreme this is until you witness it. When my Dad was at Jordan, they fired the engine up whilst I was sat in the car and went through all the engine warm up routines :) Mainly V10s then. I was a very lucky 10 year old.
That's seriously amazing and yes you were certainly a lucky 10 year old. Question: Have you ever experienced what it's like being next to the track of top tier tractor pulling? I'd love to know if it compares in terms of raw noise and ground shaking.
True, in some time there was a ferrari show in our local GP track. And there was F1. And it was so loud we could hear it in village quite far away. Incredible. In a pit stop, there was an ear rape,
Ferrari Tipo 044/1 3.0 V12, power was between 700-760 horsepower, with a 17,000 rpm redline. The car was actually a good step forward in terms of performance, scored 11 podiums in 95. Sadly the reliability was still an Achilles heel. Powerful, but thirsty. They switched to a more conventional V10 the following year
@@darrylweathers6764 kinda bizarre that MSC declared this car was good enough to win a championship when he 1st tested for ferrari but at the same time it probably suited his driving style.
me too. Just think that in Italy in those years a motoring magazine once sold its magazine with a cassette with the song of the Ferrari v12 on it. I still keep that cassette as a relic hahaha
these are the sounds i grew up with. just raw power. i went to silverstone in 98 and il tell you as a 16 yr old at my first race hearing those things at 20 feet away it trembles your lungs
oh im not a huge car guy lol sorry i didnt know the engine size. i just wanted to mention how terrifying the sound and feel of the cars raw power feels
I went to Silverstone in 97. First race. Blew my mind. At the tent Camp right next to the track, we listened to the cars all the weekend. The v10 had a great sound to Kevin 🤩
I took my son to see his first F1 grand prix when he was 14 , it was Spa francorchamp August 2000, we were in the hire car 3 miles away from the circuit and we could hear the F1 engines on Friday free practice, 3 miles away, he still talks about it today, unbelievable sound.
I was only around 10 years old during that time an totally regret that i never had the opportunity to see these machines in real life.Must have been an unforgettable experience for you and son. Greetings from Luxembourg
Yea it's Imola, exactly. I remember my first time at a track watching F1 was in 1995 at Hockenheim, my dad took me. It was amazing. I was 8 years old, a mega F1 fan and all these noises, the smell, rubber, exhaust gases (nothing like the smell you get from road cars), the colors that TV cameras couldn't show. I remember the first time stepping up the grandstand, seeing the track and thinking "holy crap the curbs are wide and huge" it all looked so small on tv. And all the colors were so alive, i mean in 1995 there were Forti Fords, they were backmarkers but in person the colors of the cars and the helmets looked so good. Especcially bright colors never get delivered through tv, i remember all the colors on the drivers helmets and the cars being so bright and oh man... I wish i could go back. My last time at a track for F1 was in 2013 at the Nürburgring because i knew it was the last year of the V8s. Between 1995 and 2013 i have been at tracks for F1 many times. And today F1 just doesn't feel like F1. I remember the red parts of Rubens Barrichellos helmet being so bright, i remember single Qualy laps when williams had these amazing 20.000rpm V10 BMW engines, holy moly they sounded crazy.
The V12 was a musical instrument back in the day. And I agree with you about the sound comparison. The V10 also had a great sound but was more about grunt and power up at around 850-900bhp. There's a hypercar you need to check out that has a similar sound and that's the new Pagani Huayra R. I guarantee you won't be disappointed!!!!!!
A mate of mine was at Bathurst Mt Panorama when Jenson Buttons did a lap around it in his F1 McLaren. He described sound of the F1 like this…”it was like the gates of hell had opened and this roaring monster came out screaming fire at you.” I haven’t heard a better description than that.
The V12s were not revving as high as the V8s. As the regulations kept decreasing the size of the engines , in the 90s and 2000s, engineers made up for it with higher revs. So the v12s had the lowest revs, around 13000- 14000
This was the first and only V12 F1 car I saw live, at Silverstone. V10s and V8s were all racing at the same time during that period. Only Ferrari were still running the V12s at this time. This was also the old formation of the track lay out. So the cars came out the pit just after Copse. I remember being right over the other side of the track at Club corner and you could clearly identify the Ferrari coming out of the pits to run a lap during practice or qualifying. All the other cars although also loud in there own way, just didn't sound as awesome as this beast. And with Jean Alesi behind the wheel you always knew it was at full revs at all times.
Technically that's very much what they're like. Just more cylinders. Gearbox works the same in principle. That's why I was so fascinated with my MV Agusta motorcycle, it's similarities to current F1 cars in many ways: it has an inline 3 cylinder engine which in its sound characteristics is basically one bank of a V6, so it sounds very similar. It is a very racy engine, totally unlike cars engines, so you can hear the mechanical sounds a lot more like with F1 engines. It's rough like them. It revs to pretty much exactly the revs that modern F1 V6 turbo engines rev to. The motorcycle has to fulfill road regulations so it's somewhat silenced, but F1 engines are similarly silenced by the turbos. The MV Agusta triple was even designed with Ferrari F1 engineers brought in with the intention of using that time's (early 2010's) Ferrari F1 engine technology and design. In the end they didn't just copy Ferrari F1 tech because they came to the conclusion that they want a dedicated new design to suit the specifics of motorcycles' needs and to better optimize the smaller 3-cylinder engine was superior for that application.
This is the sound, thats why i fell in love with formula 1 as a little boy… that sound, and a german racing driver, you might heard of him, his name was Michael Schumacher. 😉
You should check out the Espace F1 built by Renault in 1994 to celebrate the 10 years of the Renault Espace ( an unassuming FWD minivan from France ) and the manufacturer championship they won that same year in formula one. And what better idea to celebrate that than to combine a 800hp v10 with a f*ing minivan and put 4 seats in there 😂 Insane car only one working prototype but worth a check
Old f1 was the best I remember being a kid playing football on the field constantly checking the time to make sure I didn't miss the start of the race. It was so eventful back then and actually sounded like f1 should.
This is the sound of the real Formula 1. This is the astonishing music i grew up with. This and the even more incredible V10s. Now... man... now everything that made that series great is jsut a distant memory.
You described it perfectly in one word Ian - ‘insane’ … I’m bloody sure there’s something about the smell of race fuel and tyre smoke and the instinctive need to be red lining on the rpm through every gear change that sends these dudes to another level entirely.
The maximum RPM is ~16900-17100 and ~690-710HP from 3L engine. 1995 was the first year when F1 used 3L engine (before all engines was 3.5L from 1989), and this engine was the last V12. The rules still allowed to continue to use this engine, but the engine weight and optional upgrade chance is lower (more cylinders, more weight and more complication etc.) Why so good the engine sound? The smaller engine (-0.5L) is the biggest reason. This period was very special because there were many engine manufacturers and V8 V10 and V12 were in the race! For example, Schumacher won the championship in '94 with a Ford Cosworth V8 engine, and in '95 with a Renault V10 with the Benetton team! Car history: 1 Win in Canada with Jean Alesi (this was one and only Alesi win, he was very unlucky carrer) + 4 2. place with Alesi and 6 3. place with Gerhard Berger....and overall 15 retirement. Schumacher joined to Ferrari in 1996. He tested the the old 412T2 with V12 and V10 engine and of course, the new car F310. Schumacher said:" if I had driven the 412T2 last year, I would have been champion more easily!" I don't know if this was true, but it is certain that neither Berger nor Alesi was as good a driver as Schumacher. By 1996 Berger and Alesi had gone to Benetton, which won the championship in '94 and '95, they said: "We don't know how Schumi won the championship with this, it's a lousy car! Ferrari V6 Hybrid V8 V10 and V12 in Monza: th-cam.com/video/92aYYjK_0Ww/w-d-xo.html Best (not the quality :D) video from V8 V10 and V12 sound from Canada (legendary video): th-cam.com/video/fOrUNnWt7Wk/w-d-xo.html Schumacher first Ferrari and V10 engine test+ 412T2 V10 version and 412T1 3.5L V12: th-cam.com/video/XzO9z31LFrI/w-d-xo.html 412T2 on public road: th-cam.com/video/E959mUeTQsg/w-d-xo.html
You are not correct about the time Berger and Alesi went to Benetton. The baseline of the car was good but there was zero development on it throughout the season . Added to this schumacher took key people to ferrari with him so berger & alesi lost key personnel. This is the reason. In pure driving Berger and Alesi were very fast drivers. Over a season schumacher had incredible consistency.
When I first started watching F1 in '92, Ford had a V8, Renault had a V10, and Ferrari had the V12. Each had a unique and different sound but they all screamed. I think the V12 revved around 14-15k rpm. The new, modern hybrid V6's aren't nearly as loud because of the turbo. Love your channel, cheers!
Not gonna lie, this was the reaction I was waiting for. I was one of many who requested this 😂 EDIT: if you’re still taking recommendations, can I suggest the McLaren MP4-15, from the year 2000. That Ilmor built Mercedes V10 has a very distinctive howl 👍🏾
I had the good fortune of seeing a race in the V10 era (1998) and the closest thing I can describe to those cars was the ground felt like it was being torn through beneath your feet and the sound would hit you square in the chest as they streaked past you and you never really got used to it 😂. Imola is phonetically pronounced "ihm-uh-lah", but be really careful when you address that track as that is where Senna's life ended and it's still a bit of a sore point with F1 fans that were fortunate enough to watch Senna race live on TV or in person.
I saw this one in Buenos Aires and went home and when I laid down in bed at night, I could still hear it in my head. UNBELIEVABLE sounds and so happy I got to see this cars
I saw this live in Adelaide AUS 1995...FELT it to. The sound totally penetrated you. The other thing is the gear changes were like thunder cannons also. They were so defining. Especially the backfiring. The high octane smell was very sweet to. Seeing their ridiculous acceleration was just unworldly. The really long straight you really heard them in high revs for extended times to. I will never forget but miss for eternity :) Ahhh...miss the 1990s all round :) Thanks for your awesome offerings and stay strong all :)
We lived a few miles from Hockenheim 1976-78, close enough to hear when there was a race. And close enough to hear Friday practice for the 1977 German GP, but that paled in comparison to watching Nikki Lauda take the win for Ferrari in a 312T on Saturday. In a field dominated by Cosworth Fords, the howl of the Ferraris stood out. The sights, smells, and sounds are still with me!
Sadly I never heard the v12 in person, yet. But the v10’s may sound high pitch, but in real life you can’t imagine that it also creates a deep rumble that you can feel in your chest. And that’s is something you can’t feel on a video of course. That’s why I would vote for v10’s
I didn't appreciate it fully at the time but I got to attend an F1 race in 2007. I will never forget the sound. It was like they were tearing a hole in the air.
when i was young i once went to a race they still used these cars....believe me when i say....this does not do justice to how insane they sound on track.
I'm unfortunately too young to have properly experienced the V12s but I heard one when they did a classic car parade during the run-up before this year's British grand prix and it was mind-bogglingly loud. I wish I could have experienced a full field of 20 of them driving round a track
Local track here, Hampton Downs, had a 'Ferrari Festival', with a bunch of Ferrari road cars, F40s, F50, Enzo, and a couple of 80s Turbo F1 cars, and the sister car to this one, #28. And holy christ it was the most amazing automotive thing I've ever experienced. I was literally as close as the guy when he video'd the start up, and then the fence was only just off the track, so I was maybe 20 feet from it ripping down the main straight, blasting sparks out the back. Oh, and it was wildly UNsuccessful...
This year and model Ferrari F1 was the last one to race at Adelaide before the Australian Grand Prix moved to Melbourne. The 10 years (11 races from 1985 to 1995) that the Grand prix was here in Adelaide not only could you hear this car from 2-3 miles away (most F1 cars at this time you could with 18000rpm) but the distinctive engine note from the Ferrari's every single year were clearly distinguishable from every other car and you when you were at the track ( I stood in the infield at the end of the straight just before the braking zone and was partially obscured by trees) you could tell that the next car to come by was a Ferrari. Now of course the cars weren't the best performing or most reliable in the early 90's but you could still always pick out that engine noise from every other car.
It absolutely makes sense saying the engine sounds smoother. Those V12 are built in a way that makes it run almost perfectly balanced without any counter shaft.
I watched them at the European Grand Prix at brands hatch as a kid on paddock hill bend in the 80’s, incredible sound. Fell in love with it all ever since. I love the V10 but there’s something about the sound of the V12 turbo era
Thats the og F1 car I‘ve been growing up with. Michael Schuhmacher’s best time. This car just symbolizes perfectly the king of racing sports F1 is. Sadly growing up with it also makes me used to the sound of those things and I wish I could hear them for the first time again as an adult who appreciates great sounding engines a lot more and feel the excitement you felt!
I've been at the Montreal F1GP twelve times ! Those engines can reach as high as 12,000 rpm. And you wouldn't believe the powerful bellowing roar in the low gears and in the high gears the note is a high pitch screaming anger. You feel the vibrations in the ground wheather you're standing or seated on the grandstands. You feel it in your chest and if you didn't have earplugs your eadrums take a beating and your hearing is muffled the next day. So just cover your hands over your ears and talk and you'll hear what it sounds like the next day! And there's nothing like going to an F1 race!
I'm so lucky to hear 3 V8 F1s in my lifetime, the 2011/12 Redbull at Eastern Creek driven by both Mark Webber and Daniel Ricciardo. The other was at a track 40 mins away from me, Mt Panorama. It was a 2008 McLaren driven both by Jenson Button and V8 Legend Craig Lowndes. Would have loved to hear this Ferrari V12 in person
What doesn't come across on film audio is just how loud all F1 cars were then, and how full the sound was. A single car was enough to make you put your fingers in your ears. I lived over ten miles from a circuit that staged a Grand Prix and I could hear them practising. The other thing is that the deeper sounds don't seem to get caught properly on audio - the overall effect in the flesh wasn't really of a high-pitched whine, but of the high revs mixed in with thunder/cannon fire!
Imma tell this to you I live in Casalgrande which is about 15/20 km away from the Ferrari test track, and my father told me that when he was about 15/20 years old he could hear when a Ferrari f1 car was taking a spin around the track cause the v12s was so noisy that even from 20 km with buildings and all in between you could still hear it.
One of the reasons, why Ferrari V12 are sounding so good, is the bankangle. It is 65 degree of the V, instead of 60 degree, what it would make an even firing between the cylinders. The crankshaft has 60 degree crankpins between each pair of cylinders but the bankangle of 65 degree means, that one cylinder fires after 65 degree or 55 degree after its predecessor and that makes an slightly uneven noise with multiple interferences. The same principle like in a V8 with crossplane crankshaft or in a V10.
This car truly does sound phenomenal... I was at the British Grand Prix 94...stood close to the track as they accelerated through Woodcote corner. As many folks have said about race engines, you "feel" the sound as well as hear it. The crackles, pops & bangs on the over-run as they braked for corners was pretty incredible too. There are a couple more Ferrari V12 F1 clips I could link you to...that are of better quality sound if you're interested?
Here's a video of the 1994 Ferrari 412T1. th-cam.com/video/wgjB171KkbI/w-d-xo.html This video has the engine stats and some static shots of it in the car with its lovely exhausts. Post Imola 1994 when Senna and Ratzenberger died, an Barichello nearly did as well, the FIA mandated a hole be cut in the engine intake plenum and cover to reduce power. For the 1995 season they reduced the capacity from 3.5L to 3.0L. btw, the T stands for trasversale or transverse, the orientation of the gearbox. The same suffix was used in the 1970s in the 312T1 to 312T5.
Somebody must have commented about these things already, but for safety's sake, I'll list a couple of points that led to the demise of the V12. The V12 as an engine, was heavier and thirstier than a V10. The V10 had a broader torque range, so it was not as finicky to drive (well it was, but a slight undershifting was not as bad as with a V12) and the V10 didn't lose in power to the V12, due the fact that they had gotten the torque/extremely high revs into the sweet zone by then. My most bone shaking experience was in 1996, in the grandstand close to the start/finish line at Silverstone when the lights turned green, I videoed (VHS-C, remember?) the start and the sound made vertical waves all over the picture. The modern V6:s are fine cars that are technically superior to the old free breathing ones, but they are big and bulky and sound like Hoovers. Even the V8:s that came after the V10:s sounded disappointing.
Now imagine, 22 F1 cars, on the starting grid, all revs at maximum, waiting for the red lights to turn off. 22 engines screaming out LOUUUUUD !!! and it was "only" V10, when I have experienced that at Magny Cours (France) And I remember an ITW : Jean Alesi, who drove for Ferrari during the V12 era (actually I believe he drove the 412 T2...) : he explained how much he loved the V12 engines : - For the sound - and the ability to make the car turning by using the throttle !!! Those good all days, when F1 were loud, the engines were screaming... ! bring this sound back !!!!!!!!!!!!!
20K RPM Pneumatic operated valves, because a cam and roller valve train couldn't keep up with the RPMs. Ceramic Pistons Normally aspirated Transmission was sequential with paddle shifters. I don't remember if they were 6 gears or 7 gears back then. (They are 8 gears now.)
The last V12 engine to race in F1 :-). If you like V12 engines, maybe you should consider reacting to some older Matra Simca cars too. Like the Matra MS670.
Think that the Italians crazy about engines, in Italy made an audio cassette with the noise of this V12 recorded to listen to it in the car or at home.
Here is the main spec of this beast from 1995!: Chassis: carbon-fibre and honeycomb composite structure Suspension (front): pushrod with torsion bars Suspension (rear): pushrod with torsion bars Engine: Ferrari Tipo 044/1 3.0-litre 75-degree V12 Transmission: Ferrari six-speed semi-automatic sequential Power: 700-760 hp (522-567 kW) @ 17,000 rpm Fuel: Agip Tyres: Goodyear The car was launched at Maranello on the 6th February, 1995. And they finishid "only" on the 3rd place in 1995 season in the World Constructor Championships and this car won only one GP on that year, it was in Canada. This championship was won by Renault(!!!) engines, on the top of the league Benetton-Renault was, 2nd place Willimas-Renault. There were 17 GPs on that season, 16 GPs were won by Renault engines and that only one by Ferrari. And the drivers world champion was Michael Schumacher with his Benetton-Renault with 102 points at the end of the season. The 2nd had got only 69 points (Damon Hill) , 3rd driver (David Coulthard) had 49 points, both are extremly good drivers but they were nowhere from the God of F1. This car has a sound like hell but Ferrari was far behind of Renualt in this season. Another miracle from this legendary world :-)
I was at the 1995 British Grand Prix and can tell you that you could hear the V12s always. No matter where you were watching from trackside, they were singing. The V10s sounded fantastic but would tail off when further away. Not the Ferrari's! I don't remember them being that successful to be honest but they sounded like nothing else.
Some people liked most v10, others v12, and there were things both engines had, but the thing is the combination of thouse engines at righ revs are what all we, nostalgic, misses about F1. When FIA started to cut budget and limit the number of engines per season, one of the first thing they did was down the revs, and was at this point that F1 started to not be that it was.
Here some explainations V12 are more melodic because the engine combustion are completely balanced in each 6 in-line cylinder (exhaust are separate for each bank of cylinders ). 5 cylinders, and so V10 have a specific kind of nasty sound due to a specific, and hard to optimise, wave of pressure on the intake). Also, for a same rpm, with a V12 you have 1 combustion more on each engine rev. So the principal harmonic is more high frequency (feel like more rpm). Displacement gives larger combustion chambers. Harmonics go deeper in frequency (amplified with exhaust pipes). So 3.5 liters sound 'heavier' than 3 liters (with the same number of cylinders) I love the V10 And in particular 3.5 liters (1989 to 1994) V10 Honda and Renault 😍 On the 3.0 liters period (1995-2005), the V10 ferrari and BMW were the best sounding I'm not a big fan of the 2.4 liters V8 because, even if rpm were crazy 20.000 and even 20.500 rpm!!! Before regulation limit. They sound more 'usual', not so exotic.
When the “whiny” F1s were racing in Melbourne, you could hear and smell them suburbs away. At the track the engine noise went right through you and the gear changes were like explosions. An unforgettable experience.
Yep in 1995 we listened to them from our balcony in Kew! With the pictures on the tv ofc!
Man I miss that whine
It was 1996 but i was late on my to the track & could hear & smell the cars from kms away
It hits hard if you guys were there live and I just started watching in 2014
Fascinating 🎉👍
My Dad worked in F1 for about 20 years. In the 90s, I used to spend pretty much every other weekend at Silverstone as back then they allowed in season testing. Standing on the pit wall was incredible and I've never experienced the extreme noise, the ground shaking and the pitch of sound like that in anything else. You simply have no idea how extreme this is until you witness it. When my Dad was at Jordan, they fired the engine up whilst I was sat in the car and went through all the engine warm up routines :)
Mainly V10s then. I was a very lucky 10 year old.
that sounds like an amazing experience... ngl.. slighty jealous
This is amazing. Thanks for sharing!
That's seriously amazing and yes you were certainly a lucky 10 year old.
Question: Have you ever experienced what it's like being next to the track of top tier tractor pulling? I'd love to know if it compares in terms of raw noise and ground shaking.
Thank you for sharing 🎉 that sounds like an absolute blast 😎
True, in some time there was a ferrari show in our local GP track. And there was F1. And it was so loud we could hear it in village quite far away. Incredible. In a pit stop, there was an ear rape,
The hair on my arms stand up when I hear these things. People say bring back the v10 but the v12s were another level.
This V12 of Ferrari is the best F1 sound ever produced. No V10 or V8 can ever top that.
Ferrari Tipo 044/1 3.0 V12, power was between 700-760 horsepower, with a 17,000 rpm redline. The car was actually a good step forward in terms of performance, scored 11 podiums in 95. Sadly the reliability was still an Achilles heel. Powerful, but thirsty. They switched to a more conventional V10 the following year
the first and only jean alesi victory in 1995 with this car
@@VadoAlMax yup and it was in Montréal!!! if I remember Shumi give him a lift on is Beneton at the end of the race.
good call for both of you!!👊
And one win - Alesi in Canada.
I was thinking one win, but the 1994 412T1 was the 3.5L, of course.
@@VadoAlMax yes, thank you. I should’ve included the win at Montreal and the pole position at Spa
@@darrylweathers6764 kinda bizarre that MSC declared this car was good enough to win a championship when he 1st tested for ferrari but at the same time it probably suited his driving style.
The Ferrari V12 is heavenly, especially those gear changes. This sound is ASMR to me.
me too. Just think that in Italy in those years a motoring magazine once sold its magazine with a cassette with the song of the Ferrari v12 on it. I still keep that cassette as a relic hahaha
these are the sounds i grew up with. just raw power. i went to silverstone in 98 and il tell you as a 16 yr old at my first race hearing those things at 20 feet away it trembles your lungs
The 98 cars were V10's though
oh im not a huge car guy lol sorry i didnt know the engine size. i just wanted to mention how terrifying the sound and feel of the cars raw power feels
@@KevinBrown-lv2fk They are vicious all the same so I totally agree!
The r25 abbu dabi return give me kid memory of tv racing and hours in pc simulator 😉
I went to Silverstone in 97. First race. Blew my mind. At the tent Camp right next to the track, we listened to the cars all the weekend. The v10 had a great sound to Kevin 🤩
I took my son to see his first F1 grand prix when he was 14 , it was Spa francorchamp August 2000, we were in the hire car 3 miles away from the circuit and we could hear the F1 engines on Friday free practice, 3 miles away, he still talks about it today, unbelievable sound.
I was only around 10 years old during that time an totally regret that i never had the opportunity to see these machines in real life.Must have been an unforgettable experience for you and son.
Greetings from Luxembourg
Yea it's Imola, exactly. I remember my first time at a track watching F1 was in 1995 at Hockenheim, my dad took me. It was amazing. I was 8 years old, a mega F1 fan and all these noises, the smell, rubber, exhaust gases (nothing like the smell you get from road cars), the colors that TV cameras couldn't show. I remember the first time stepping up the grandstand, seeing the track and thinking "holy crap the curbs are wide and huge" it all looked so small on tv. And all the colors were so alive, i mean in 1995 there were Forti Fords, they were backmarkers but in person the colors of the cars and the helmets looked so good. Especcially bright colors never get delivered through tv, i remember all the colors on the drivers helmets and the cars being so bright and oh man... I wish i could go back. My last time at a track for F1 was in 2013 at the Nürburgring because i knew it was the last year of the V8s. Between 1995 and 2013 i have been at tracks for F1 many times. And today F1 just doesn't feel like F1. I remember the red parts of Rubens Barrichellos helmet being so bright, i remember single Qualy laps when williams had these amazing 20.000rpm V10 BMW engines, holy moly they sounded crazy.
The V12 was a musical instrument back in the day. And I agree with you about the sound comparison. The V10 also had a great sound but was more about grunt and power up at around 850-900bhp. There's a hypercar you need to check out that has a similar sound and that's the new Pagani Huayra R. I guarantee you won't be disappointed!!!!!!
A piece of the golden era of motorsport.
1:19 - a little "growling"...
1:22 - Don't provoke me!
V12 that sounds awesome. Pure melody. The best of F1.
Everytime i get tears in my eyes. Love it. Greetings from Germany
A mate of mine was at Bathurst Mt Panorama when Jenson Buttons did a lap around it in his F1 McLaren. He described sound of the F1 like this…”it was like the gates of hell had opened and this roaring monster came out screaming fire at you.” I haven’t heard a better description than that.
The V12s were not revving as high as the V8s. As the regulations kept decreasing the size of the engines , in the 90s and 2000s, engineers made up for it with higher revs. So the v12s had the lowest revs, around 13000- 14000
Fernando Alonso with her Renault R25 in The circuit of Abu Dhabi in 2020....a car that race in F1 in 2005.....AMAZING SOUND & TRACK ACTION
This was the first and only V12 F1 car I saw live, at Silverstone. V10s and V8s were all racing at the same time during that period. Only Ferrari were still running the V12s at this time. This was also the old formation of the track lay out. So the cars came out the pit just after Copse. I remember being right over the other side of the track at Club corner and you could clearly identify the Ferrari coming out of the pits to run a lap during practice or qualifying. All the other cars although also loud in there own way, just didn't sound as awesome as this beast. And with Jean Alesi behind the wheel you always knew it was at full revs at all times.
It's called the "Scream". high revving v12s 😍
2:26 It's that instant gear change that gets me. Like a high-powered motorcycle in a shell with four wheels but harder.
Technically that's very much what they're like. Just more cylinders. Gearbox works the same in principle.
That's why I was so fascinated with my MV Agusta motorcycle, it's similarities to current F1 cars in many ways: it has an inline 3 cylinder engine which in its sound characteristics is basically one bank of a V6, so it sounds very similar. It is a very racy engine, totally unlike cars engines, so you can hear the mechanical sounds a lot more like with F1 engines. It's rough like them. It revs to pretty much exactly the revs that modern F1 V6 turbo engines rev to. The motorcycle has to fulfill road regulations so it's somewhat silenced, but F1 engines are similarly silenced by the turbos.
The MV Agusta triple was even designed with Ferrari F1 engineers brought in with the intention of using that time's (early 2010's) Ferrari F1 engine technology and design. In the end they didn't just copy Ferrari F1 tech because they came to the conclusion that they want a dedicated new design to suit the specifics of motorcycles' needs and to better optimize the smaller 3-cylinder engine was superior for that application.
The v12 is the perfect engine configuration, perfect balance, nothing is smoother
This is the sound, thats why i fell in love with formula 1 as a little boy… that sound, and a german racing driver, you might heard of him, his name was Michael Schumacher. 😉
You should check out the Espace F1 built by Renault in 1994 to celebrate the 10 years of the Renault Espace ( an unassuming FWD minivan from France ) and the manufacturer championship they won that same year in formula one.
And what better idea to celebrate that than to combine a 800hp v10 with a f*ing minivan and put 4 seats in there 😂
Insane car only one working prototype but worth a check
18000 rpm 😂 miss this still…
Top Gear had Richard Hammond drive one… worth a look :)
Old f1 was the best I remember being a kid playing football on the field constantly checking the time to make sure I didn't miss the start of the race. It was so eventful back then and actually sounded like f1 should.
This is among the iconic sounds of my youth.
This is the sound of the real Formula 1. This is the astonishing music i grew up with. This and the even more incredible V10s. Now... man... now everything that made that series great is jsut a distant memory.
I saw and heard this live at the Canadian GP in the 90s , The V12 Ferraris of this time were the most beautiful sounding of all time !
You described it perfectly in one word Ian - ‘insane’ … I’m bloody sure there’s something about the smell of race fuel and tyre smoke and the instinctive need to be red lining on the rpm through every gear change that sends these dudes to another level entirely.
The maximum RPM is ~16900-17100 and ~690-710HP from 3L engine. 1995 was the first year when F1 used 3L engine (before all engines was 3.5L from 1989), and this engine was the last V12. The rules still allowed to continue to use this engine, but the engine weight and optional upgrade chance is lower (more cylinders, more weight and more complication etc.) Why so good the engine sound? The smaller engine (-0.5L) is the biggest reason. This period was very special because there were many engine manufacturers and V8 V10 and V12 were in the race! For example, Schumacher won the championship in '94 with a Ford Cosworth V8 engine, and in '95 with a Renault V10 with the Benetton team!
Car history: 1 Win in Canada with Jean Alesi (this was one and only Alesi win, he was very unlucky carrer) + 4 2. place with Alesi and 6 3. place with Gerhard Berger....and overall 15 retirement.
Schumacher joined to Ferrari in 1996. He tested the the old 412T2 with V12 and V10 engine and of course, the new car F310.
Schumacher said:" if I had driven the 412T2 last year, I would have been champion more easily!"
I don't know if this was true, but it is certain that neither Berger nor Alesi was as good a driver as Schumacher. By 1996 Berger and Alesi had gone to Benetton, which won the championship in '94 and '95, they said: "We don't know how Schumi won the championship with this, it's a lousy car!
Ferrari V6 Hybrid V8 V10 and V12 in Monza: th-cam.com/video/92aYYjK_0Ww/w-d-xo.html
Best (not the quality :D) video from V8 V10 and V12 sound from Canada (legendary video): th-cam.com/video/fOrUNnWt7Wk/w-d-xo.html
Schumacher first Ferrari and V10 engine test+ 412T2 V10 version and 412T1 3.5L V12: th-cam.com/video/XzO9z31LFrI/w-d-xo.html
412T2 on public road: th-cam.com/video/E959mUeTQsg/w-d-xo.html
You are not correct about the time Berger and Alesi went to Benetton. The baseline of the car was good but there was zero development on it throughout the season . Added to this schumacher took key people to ferrari with him so berger & alesi lost key personnel. This is the reason.
In pure driving Berger and Alesi were very fast drivers. Over a season schumacher had incredible consistency.
When I first started watching F1 in '92, Ford had a V8, Renault had a V10, and Ferrari had the V12. Each had a unique and different sound but they all screamed. I think the V12 revved around 14-15k rpm. The new, modern hybrid V6's aren't nearly as loud because of the turbo.
Love your channel, cheers!
You forget Honda with a V12 too.
You also have to check out the 3.5 V12 of the later part of the 1994 season. It ran close to 16K rpm and put out 850 hp
Not gonna lie, this was the reaction I was waiting for. I was one of many who requested this 😂 EDIT: if you’re still taking recommendations, can I suggest the McLaren MP4-15, from the year 2000. That Ilmor built Mercedes V10 has a very distinctive howl 👍🏾
I was so focused on the sound that I forgot to breathe.
the sound is so stable, clear, you feel the balance.❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥❤🔥
I had the good fortune of seeing a race in the V10 era (1998) and the closest thing I can describe to those cars was the ground felt like it was being torn through beneath your feet and the sound would hit you square in the chest as they streaked past you and you never really got used to it 😂.
Imola is phonetically pronounced "ihm-uh-lah", but be really careful when you address that track as that is where Senna's life ended and it's still a bit of a sore point with F1 fans that were fortunate enough to watch Senna race live on TV or in person.
Fun fact: In 1995, this car was the last F1 car to be powered by a V12, and Ferrari were the only team that year that used a V12
I saw this one in Buenos Aires and went home and when I laid down in bed at night, I could still hear it in my head. UNBELIEVABLE sounds and so happy I got to see this cars
Music to my ears
I saw this live in Adelaide AUS 1995...FELT it to. The sound totally penetrated you. The other thing is the gear changes were like thunder cannons also. They were so defining. Especially the backfiring. The high octane smell was very sweet to. Seeing their ridiculous acceleration was just unworldly. The really long straight you really heard them in high revs for extended times to. I will never forget but miss for eternity :)
Ahhh...miss the 1990s all round :)
Thanks for your awesome offerings and stay strong all :)
We lived a few miles from Hockenheim 1976-78, close enough to hear when there was a race. And close enough to hear Friday practice for the 1977 German GP, but that paled in comparison to watching Nikki Lauda take the win for Ferrari in a 312T on Saturday. In a field dominated by Cosworth Fords, the howl of the Ferraris stood out. The sights, smells, and sounds are still with me!
Sadly I never heard the v12 in person, yet. But the v10’s may sound high pitch, but in real life you can’t imagine that it also creates a deep rumble that you can feel in your chest. And that’s is something you can’t feel on a video of course. That’s why I would vote for v10’s
Just imagine the sound of twenty F1 cars bearing down on you immediately after the start...
Twenty-six cars at the start in those days!👍
I didn't appreciate it fully at the time but I got to attend an F1 race in 2007. I will never forget the sound. It was like they were tearing a hole in the air.
when i was young i once went to a race they still used these cars....believe me when i say....this does not do justice to how insane they sound on track.
I'm unfortunately too young to have properly experienced the V12s but I heard one when they did a classic car parade during the run-up before this year's British grand prix and it was mind-bogglingly loud. I wish I could have experienced a full field of 20 of them driving round a track
Your videos are top notch mate, love your reactions.
Local track here, Hampton Downs, had a 'Ferrari Festival', with a bunch of Ferrari road cars, F40s, F50, Enzo, and a couple of 80s Turbo F1 cars, and the sister car to this one, #28. And holy christ it was the most amazing automotive thing I've ever experienced. I was literally as close as the guy when he video'd the start up, and then the fence was only just off the track, so I was maybe 20 feet from it ripping down the main straight, blasting sparks out the back. Oh, and it was wildly UNsuccessful...
This year and model Ferrari F1 was the last one to race at Adelaide before the Australian Grand Prix moved to Melbourne. The 10 years (11 races from 1985 to 1995) that the Grand prix was here in Adelaide not only could you hear this car from 2-3 miles away (most F1 cars at this time you could with 18000rpm) but the distinctive engine note from the Ferrari's every single year were clearly distinguishable from every other car and you when you were at the track ( I stood in the infield at the end of the straight just before the braking zone and was partially obscured by trees) you could tell that the next car to come by was a Ferrari. Now of course the cars weren't the best performing or most reliable in the early 90's but you could still always pick out that engine noise from every other car.
Absolutely true. You can stay blinded but always knew what the next one is the red one.
Now imagine 20 of them on the first lap! Goosebumps.
Agreed this the best sounding car of the F1 era no other come close. The sound eats into my auto immune DNA. It's my ringtone. The sound ever!!
The V12 has a more melodic on point sound like you said but for me the sound of Renault v10 R25 was the best sound ever!
It absolutely makes sense saying the engine sounds smoother. Those V12 are built in a way that makes it run almost perfectly balanced without any counter shaft.
Just love to hear those gear changes. Very aggressive.
the V10 is the highest reving F1 engines, and was the best option for weight vs hp, and the odd numbers of cylinders make it sound like a monster
I watched them at the European Grand Prix at brands hatch as a kid on paddock hill bend in the 80’s, incredible sound. Fell in love with it all ever since. I love the V10 but there’s something about the sound of the V12 turbo era
Thats the og F1 car I‘ve been growing up with. Michael Schuhmacher’s best time. This car just symbolizes perfectly the king of racing sports F1 is. Sadly growing up with it also makes me used to the sound of those things and I wish I could hear them for the first time again as an adult who appreciates great sounding engines a lot more and feel the excitement you felt!
I've been at the Montreal F1GP twelve times ! Those engines can reach as high as 12,000 rpm. And you wouldn't believe the powerful bellowing roar in the low gears and in the high gears the note is a high pitch screaming anger. You feel the vibrations in the ground wheather you're standing or seated on the grandstands. You feel it in your chest and if you didn't have earplugs your eadrums take a beating and your hearing is muffled the next day. So just cover your hands over your ears and talk and you'll hear what it sounds like the next day! And there's nothing like going to an F1 race!
I attended the German Grand Prix when this car was racing,and you could hear it 5 miles away in saturday practice !!
Those engines make no noise, they "scream"... it's the absolute raw power scream.
I'm so lucky to hear 3 V8 F1s in my lifetime, the 2011/12 Redbull at Eastern Creek driven by both Mark Webber and Daniel Ricciardo. The other was at a track 40 mins away from me, Mt Panorama. It was a 2008 McLaren driven both by Jenson Button and V8 Legend Craig Lowndes. Would have loved to hear this Ferrari V12 in person
What doesn't come across on film audio is just how loud all F1 cars were then, and how full the sound was. A single car was enough to make you put your fingers in your ears. I lived over ten miles from a circuit that staged a Grand Prix and I could hear them practising. The other thing is that the deeper sounds don't seem to get caught properly on audio - the overall effect in the flesh wasn't really of a high-pitched whine, but of the high revs mixed in with thunder/cannon fire!
Imma tell this to you I live in Casalgrande which is about 15/20 km away from the Ferrari test track, and my father told me that when he was about 15/20 years old he could hear when a Ferrari f1 car was taking a spin around the track cause the v12s was so noisy that even from 20 km with buildings and all in between you could still hear it.
My personal favorite racecar of all time, with the F2004 coming in close second!
the 90's sports world was just awesome. The CART cars here in the states were pretty badass too
Another very beautiful sound is from the Matra V12 from the '70s. Not only F1 but also used at Le Mans.
One of the reasons, why Ferrari V12 are sounding so good, is the bankangle. It is 65 degree of the V, instead of 60 degree, what it would make an even firing between the cylinders. The crankshaft has 60 degree crankpins between each pair of cylinders but the bankangle of 65 degree means, that one cylinder fires after 65 degree or 55 degree after its predecessor and that makes an slightly uneven noise with multiple interferences. The same principle like in a V8 with crossplane crankshaft or in a V10.
This car truly does sound phenomenal...
I was at the British Grand Prix 94...stood close to the track as they accelerated through Woodcote corner.
As many folks have said about race engines, you "feel" the sound as well as hear it. The crackles, pops & bangs on the over-run as they braked for corners was pretty incredible too.
There are a couple more Ferrari V12 F1 clips I could link you to...that are of better quality sound if you're interested?
Le son du V10 Renault est une merveille aussi!
Hearing a 3 liter v12 revving up to 17,000 rpm blows my mind.
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Great reaction as always man
I will never forget the sound of the V10 and the V12 I've been a lot to the ciruits in Europe.Greetings from the Netherland.🏎🏎🏎
Bone shaking loud. It hollows out your entire body. The sound waves literally reverberates inside and through the body.
I got to see Gerhard Bergers F1Turbo running at Hampton Downs, along with v10 McLaren was AWESOME
You need to check out F1 2011 blown diffuser sound. The most brutal sound F1 cars ever made under breaking. It was banned after only one season
the V10 sounds like the growl of a demon, the V12 sounds like some kind of alien space ship. both sounds amazing and I cant decide between them.
That's why they were called 'screaming V12'. If I remember correctly they were 3Litre displacement running at 18,000 rpm
Here's a video of the 1994 Ferrari 412T1. th-cam.com/video/wgjB171KkbI/w-d-xo.html
This video has the engine stats and some static shots of it in the car with its lovely exhausts.
Post Imola 1994 when Senna and Ratzenberger died, an Barichello nearly did as well, the FIA mandated a hole be cut in the engine intake plenum and cover to reduce power. For the 1995 season they reduced the capacity from 3.5L to 3.0L.
btw, the T stands for trasversale or transverse, the orientation of the gearbox. The same suffix was used in the 1970s in the 312T1 to 312T5.
Always likened that engine to a screaming banshee, it was unique among the field when all other cars were running v10s
Somebody must have commented about these things already, but for safety's sake, I'll list a couple of points that led to the demise of the V12. The V12 as an engine, was heavier and thirstier than a V10. The V10 had a broader torque range, so it was not as finicky to drive (well it was, but a slight undershifting was not as bad as with a V12) and the V10 didn't lose in power to the V12, due the fact that they had gotten the torque/extremely high revs into the sweet zone by then. My most bone shaking experience was in 1996, in the grandstand close to the start/finish line at Silverstone when the lights turned green, I videoed (VHS-C, remember?) the start and the sound made vertical waves all over the picture. The modern V6:s are fine cars that are technically superior to the old free breathing ones, but they are big and bulky and sound like Hoovers. Even the V8:s that came after the V10:s sounded disappointing.
Now imagine, 22 F1 cars, on the starting grid, all revs at maximum, waiting for the red lights to turn off.
22 engines screaming out LOUUUUUD !!!
and it was "only" V10, when I have experienced that at Magny Cours (France)
And I remember an ITW : Jean Alesi, who drove for Ferrari during the V12 era (actually I believe he drove the 412 T2...) : he explained how much he loved the V12 engines :
- For the sound
- and the ability to make the car turning by using the throttle !!!
Those good all days, when F1 were loud, the engines were screaming... !
bring this sound back !!!!!!!!!!!!!
The V10s from later were screaming - this V12 sings. That's the difference!!!❤❤❤
I recommend the f1 v8 blown diffuser, the downshift sounds insane
20K RPM
Pneumatic operated valves, because a cam and roller valve train couldn't keep up with the RPMs.
Ceramic Pistons
Normally aspirated
Transmission was sequential with paddle shifters. I don't remember if they were 6 gears or 7 gears back then. (They are 8 gears now.)
The last V12 engine to race in F1 :-). If you like V12 engines, maybe you should consider reacting to some older Matra Simca cars too. Like the Matra MS670.
Think that the Italians crazy about engines, in Italy made an audio cassette with the noise of this V12 recorded to listen to it in the car or at home.
And this it's just an exhibition, imagine that beautiful machines racing for real.
Here is the main spec of this beast from 1995!:
Chassis: carbon-fibre and honeycomb composite structure
Suspension (front): pushrod with torsion bars
Suspension (rear): pushrod with torsion bars
Engine: Ferrari Tipo 044/1 3.0-litre 75-degree V12
Transmission: Ferrari six-speed semi-automatic sequential
Power: 700-760 hp (522-567 kW) @ 17,000 rpm
Fuel: Agip
Tyres: Goodyear
The car was launched at Maranello on the 6th February, 1995. And they finishid "only" on the 3rd place in 1995 season in the World Constructor Championships and this car won only one GP on that year, it was in Canada.
This championship was won by Renault(!!!) engines, on the top of the league Benetton-Renault was, 2nd place Willimas-Renault. There were 17 GPs on that season, 16 GPs were won by Renault engines and that only one by Ferrari.
And the drivers world champion was Michael Schumacher with his Benetton-Renault with 102 points at the end of the season. The 2nd had got only 69 points (Damon Hill) , 3rd driver (David Coulthard) had 49 points, both are extremly good drivers but they were nowhere from the God of F1.
This car has a sound like hell but Ferrari was far behind of Renualt in this season. Another miracle from this legendary world :-)
they also use the sound of the 12 cylinder in the star wars movies, slomotion it was used for the Imperial TIE Fighter 75300
Also gonna go out on a limb and vote for v10 on sound over the v12.
Your face when it upshifts though 🤣
The BEST Sounding F1 Cars of All Time (V8s & V12s) This is worth a watch
Angry bees, man! It's an altogether different sound to a lumpy cam V8, but I love both notes :)
I simply can not explain the first time I've seen this machine's mid 90s at Monza.
At the track you could feel you chest rumble before you saw the car coming happy days
I was at the 1995 British Grand Prix and can tell you that you could hear the V12s always. No matter where you were watching from trackside, they were singing. The V10s sounded fantastic but would tail off when further away. Not the Ferrari's! I don't remember them being that successful to be honest but they sounded like nothing else.
it was a glorious era, mid 80s to mid 90s
Some people liked most v10, others v12, and there were things both engines had, but the thing is the combination of thouse engines at righ revs are what all we, nostalgic, misses about F1. When FIA started to cut budget and limit the number of engines per season, one of the first thing they did was down the revs, and was at this point that F1 started to not be that it was.
Unbridled anger, ready to snuff out galaxies musically, pressed into a V12 ...
Spine tingling for us oldies who saw them the 1st time round👍👍👍brilliant channel👍👍👍
Esse V12 girava 16.000 rpm, coisa absurda, descomunal 🔥🔥🔥
Here some explainations
V12 are more melodic because the engine combustion are completely balanced in each 6 in-line cylinder (exhaust are separate for each bank of cylinders ).
5 cylinders, and so V10 have a specific kind of nasty sound due to a specific, and hard to optimise, wave of pressure on the intake).
Also, for a same rpm, with a V12 you have 1 combustion more on each engine rev. So the principal harmonic is more high frequency (feel like more rpm).
Displacement gives larger combustion chambers.
Harmonics go deeper in frequency (amplified with exhaust pipes).
So 3.5 liters sound 'heavier' than 3 liters (with the same number of cylinders)
I love the V10
And in particular 3.5 liters (1989 to 1994) V10
Honda and Renault 😍
On the 3.0 liters period (1995-2005), the V10 ferrari and BMW were the best sounding
I'm not a big fan of the 2.4 liters V8 because, even if rpm were crazy 20.000 and even 20.500 rpm!!! Before regulation limit. They sound more 'usual', not so exotic.
V12 sound for president, i love v10's but, this one is the best ever