Nothing can touch this watch when it comes to lume - Wise Hitman SE

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  • @daynevickers1079
    @daynevickers1079 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've been collecting micro-brand watches for about 2 years now, and incredibly, I've never come across your channel until today. I'm so glad I did! Your commentary is spot-on, well prepared and edited perfectly. And, being a lume-nut-guy, I totally appreciate your methodology of lume testing, which goes far beyond any other watch channel. And you're correct.... this watch has absolutely insane lume! Glad to be aboard your channel.

  • @DetroitDiesel671
    @DetroitDiesel671 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm really loving my left-handed full lume Hitman. I've had it for a month or so and worn it almost every day. Surprisingly, I really like the no-date feature. Not only does it maximize the full lume effect, but it really makes setting the watch easier when it has run down.

  • @kaiwilliams141
    @kaiwilliams141 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Gotta face this off against the signum cuda

    • @stratonwatchco
      @stratonwatchco ปีที่แล้ว +5

      100%

    • @robbbbery
      @robbbbery ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My thoughts exactly!

    • @GoWatchRob
      @GoWatchRob ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And the Cuda is cheaper

    • @andrewd7586
      @andrewd7586 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Signum Cuda ia a power station!🤣

    • @BobbyL2k
      @BobbyL2k ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Relative time did a comparison.
      Spoiler alert: Wise won by quite a lot.

  • @ladykoala208
    @ladykoala208 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I love the watch and the fact you can customise it to make it unique to you is so awesome. If they ever make a smaller 39mm with a 46mm L2L I would definitely buy it as I am sized out of this one. Would love to see a battle of lume against the full lume Zelos Swordfish, the Signum Cuda and this one.

  • @DetroitDiesel671
    @DetroitDiesel671 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just got my Full Lume Hitman, I ordered it with the crown on the left side. It's a very cool watch!

  • @Strideo1
    @Strideo1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The lume is cool but I never understand full lume dials that also lume the hands and markers. They're actually easier to read when the markers and hands are unlumed so you get a "negative" effect.

  • @RelativeTime
    @RelativeTime ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Really cool watch! Wise is amazing. I'm curious how it would do against the Signum Cudas.

  • @EnJeiBee
    @EnJeiBee ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I wasn't familiar with Wise at all, but their catalog looks looks amazing.

    • @MrAumbra
      @MrAumbra ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I received my Hitman II Special Edition with full lume dial about 2 weeks ago. It’s amazing. Total lume monster. This is my third Wise and the quality for dollar is exceptional. I own several micro bands (Baltic, Traska, CW etc) and they all give my more expensive pieces a run for their money.

    • @krazyfiend
      @krazyfiend ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@MrAumbradid you get the FKM rubber strap or opt for the bracelet. If bracelet, wondering your honest opinion if it's worth it. I'm most comfortable with rubber straps, but sometimes like to switch it up and don't want to regret not ordering the bracelet if you find it to not be a chinsy POS.

    • @allenb4823
      @allenb4823 ปีที่แล้ว

      Does it have silver or black trim hands??@@MrAumbra

    • @MrAumbra
      @MrAumbra ปีที่แล้ว

      @@krazyfiend I got the bracelet and it is of decent quality. I wouldn’t compare it to an Omega or Rolex quality but worth it in my opinion. Overall the watch is great for the price.

    • @MrAumbra
      @MrAumbra ปีที่แล้ว

      @@allenb4823 hands are silver and nicely executed.

  • @alanwright4448
    @alanwright4448 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great review. Would be interesting to see this lume up against the Signum Cuda!

  • @rabolinger
    @rabolinger 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I recently purchased the Hitman SE. It took 4 weeks to arrive and it immediately began stopping and losing time. I contacted Wise and was told to manually wind it which is impossible as the crown keeps screwing back down. Because the watch is automatic purchased a case that actually rotated hoping it would wind however the watch continued to stop. I was told by Wise to send it back and they would have their repair department determine if it was defective. Shipping from the US back to Thailand ran $65 and it's been in transit for over a week. Not the greatest experience so in the interim I ended up purchasing a Vaer. It was half the price and actually works.

  • @sog6841
    @sog6841 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m a Lume junkie too! I’m up all night and sleep during the day so I like a watch I can see without pushing a button or flipping my wrist. I mainly wear a LumiNox and have never not been able to tell the time.

  • @0xfrakman
    @0xfrakman หลายเดือนก่อน

    9:55 maybe I am wrong.. but as I understand.. even if you are testing a specific spot on the watch, it will indeed have more intensity as it is being illuminated by it being surrounded by a full lume dial.

    • @JusttheWatch
      @JusttheWatch  หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's correct. My test doesn't take that I to account, so it's worth noting. I do sample three points on the dial to try to get an average, but that's still not going to make for a 1 to 1 comparison of full lime dials and a standard lume profile.

    • @servantofallah9425
      @servantofallah9425 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Yeah, but just search hitman lume (relative time). He has compared this watch with the best there it is out there, and this TH-camr saying that it has lume twice as that of Seiko aint wrong. I think its thrice or maybe quadruple.

  • @edmoon360
    @edmoon360 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks to you… I bought a Wise Hitman which arrived today in UK beautifully presented. Apart from the name, it is fantastic and yes, the full lume is just amazing. I mean really amazing.

  • @michaelking8681
    @michaelking8681 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed your review of this striking watch! As a bargain oriented watch collector, I am so thankful I stumbled upon your channel. Keep up the great work!

  • @mutant0177
    @mutant0177 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Regarding the bezel action: I bought a Casio Duro because my KHS Shooter MK2 automatic was in revision. After I received my KHS back I have to say that I am a fan of a 60 click bezel with medium effort to turn on my KHS. The Casio Duro is a great watch but you have to force the 120 click bezel pretty hard with I do not like.

  • @timetowatch_francois
    @timetowatch_francois ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s nice to see a full lume dial that looks white as opposed to cream-ish/off-white.
    Wise seems to be doing great since the last few years. Thanks for sharing this one.

  • @FuneralDirectorJoe
    @FuneralDirectorJoe 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this video. I appear to be similar to you. I am also buying one similar to yours; not because you picked one, rather I filled out the Wise order form based on my personal preferences. I also adore lume and that is why I ordered one!

  • @charlesroach8549
    @charlesroach8549 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just ordered a special edition bronze Hitman, super excited.

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    you should do a comparison of their BLUE vs GREEN lume dials

    • @jakeeleebattos9942
      @jakeeleebattos9942 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The eye picks up green a lot better THATS all .thats why the milatary switched to green optic lasers

  • @derbagger22
    @derbagger22 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love Wise watches on style and value. Still waiting to find the right one at the right time...

  • @rabadabadoo491
    @rabadabadoo491 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah would love to see this up against a Signum cuda and Farr & Swift Wayfinder.
    Great vid and nice watch.

  • @johnsun2416
    @johnsun2416 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: Let say you turn off the light and go to sleep at 9pm. then you wake up around 3am.would you be able to see the lume to tell what time it is?

  • @adk7962
    @adk7962 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Always thought Wise’s Hitman Watches were underrated. I also only wear (on the regular) watches with dates. Thanks for the thorough review and lume test!

  • @a_z.tazzzfan8497
    @a_z.tazzzfan8497 ปีที่แล้ว

    The non-full lumed dial Hitman line is available with a Date option (NH35A).
    I'm expecting to receive my no-Date (NH38)Hitman tomorrow. I selected the crown -right, gradient Red dial with black bezel and yellow Seconds hand.

  • @ginocolella6373
    @ginocolella6373 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are just nailing it with the review, everything in wise watches are well thought out, and the quality is very good in everything, if I would pick something to improve on this one is a “on the fly” adjustable clasp, which they have done for the other models, but who knows maybe they can make it for this one too? Wise if you read this, please 🙏..
    thanks for a very nice review 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @MrAumbra
    @MrAumbra ปีที่แล้ว

    I own the Adamascus stainless and meteorite. The quality is excellent and to be honest it really surprised me. I always recommend Wise to anyone asking about affordable watches.

  • @Blayzn18
    @Blayzn18 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really well done, I always appreciate your work!

  • @joshuajuarez3471
    @joshuajuarez3471 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is some crazy lume brotha!! So cool. I been wanting to get a WISE. Not sure which one first. The 24k dial, this two tone dial bezel blue green and gold. Or a full lume. I prolly get all three eventually if they keep make certain ones

  • @tizombie
    @tizombie ปีที่แล้ว

    Wise is a great micro brand. I owned an Adamascus and was blown away by the quality. Great review.

  • @poomsiraprapasiri8448
    @poomsiraprapasiri8448 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am Thai but only discovered Wise recently. Got the Wise with the Thai numerals a few months ago. The lume on it is really nice. Next one I’m going to get is the full lume Adamascus.

  • @ozludo
    @ozludo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm waiting to see what Wise do with a GMT 🙂 Have you looked at the Signum Cuda, Dave? Their full-lume BGW9 dial is remarkable

  • @mattrossesq
    @mattrossesq ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd compare it to the Signum Cuda. ..battle of the lumes. I think the Cuda, being titanium and colored with it's lume face is as bright if not brighter.

    • @ElJibaro718
      @ElJibaro718 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wise beats it.

  • @farrandswit
    @farrandswit ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review. The WISE would be a good head to head with the Wayfinder Lume dial.

  • @garytru563
    @garytru563 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I too need a date on my watch, I can't remember my name let alone the date. Great vid, thank you.

  • @DarthJabba504
    @DarthJabba504 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does this compare to the Laco Navy Casablanca / Valencia that you reviewed a few years ago? I have the Valencia and it's insanely bright, so curious how these newer microbrand watches compare.

  • @larrydalton2205
    @larrydalton2205 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another great review Dave! I was looking at the Wise lineup again about a month ago. Primarily the Adamascus. That white and red is really nice. I will have to consider the Hitman series instead but I really don't need another dive watch but don't have any watch with red.

  • @2manysigns
    @2manysigns ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like it . Name combination is a little disturbing . I think no date is soo good on it that it's worth not having while enjoying this watch on wrist . Lume point is a definite draw for me . I mostly prefer a date as well .

  • @z3kent778
    @z3kent778 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I do really like this brand, I wish they could sell from EU warehouse because of the tax I struggle to pull the trigger.

  • @palemale2501
    @palemale2501 ปีที่แล้ว

    The hour markers seem to float above the dial - as if each one is placed on a small pedestal ?

  • @theoutdoorsquad
    @theoutdoorsquad ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey there. I love Wise watches. ANy other Micros you would recommend with a similar high quaulity & moderate price ratio.

  • @laa0fa502
    @laa0fa502 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nixon also has some really good customization options these days. They seem to get an awful lot of hate in the watch community but they are quality and affordable

  • @rbmwiv
    @rbmwiv ปีที่แล้ว

    I have a Citizen Nighthawk and the lume is surprisingly good. I have other citizen and they don’t compare. The nighthawk destroys my seiko’s. It’s still glowing at 6:30 am. I don’t have anything else that glows that long except for tritium. But that doesn’t count since it’s radioactive. Really incredible lume on that watch. There’s no luxury watch i know of that can compete with the watch you reviewed. The old Rolex when they had tritium but that doesn’t count.

  • @luke.perkin.online
    @luke.perkin.online ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video, but it's really difficult to compare apples to apples. It'd be beaten by any electro lume, like a timex weekender with indiglo, or casio W86 with backlight. Or any watch with tritium in the first ~5 years of ownership. But yes, on this one metric, a full lume dial beats hands and pips.

    • @sic3b
      @sic3b ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Got a bunch of lume watches. Zelos included. Work a lot during nights and in badly lit places. Always come back to my 50 bucks white dial Timex indiglo. Lume is for TH-cam videos.

  • @tomschwarz579
    @tomschwarz579 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome review. Thanks.

  • @jamesminshall4601
    @jamesminshall4601 ปีที่แล้ว

    How does it compare to the Alba day date with full lume? That’s still my favourite watch for lume due to the dark indices on a full lume background .

  • @smoove314
    @smoove314 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should review the new ad8 full lume with their new 904L bracelet.

  • @GusAudibert
    @GusAudibert ปีที่แล้ว

    For brightness, have you already tested the Lorus Sport Lumibrite? it also has a fully luminous dial

  • @mjthedealer
    @mjthedealer ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks to you and this video I just pre-ordered their ADAMASCUS AD15 lol

    • @smoove314
      @smoove314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Very cool. That gold dial looks amazing.

    • @mjthedealer
      @mjthedealer ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@smoove314 Thanks, my guy! I thought so too. Nice collection BTW.

  • @georged822
    @georged822 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Does the non full lume hitman score a 25 as well? I kinda hate fully lumed dials

  • @RabbitWatchShop
    @RabbitWatchShop ปีที่แล้ว +4

    They need some smaller offerings. I won't go over 40mm. My sweet spot is between 37mm and 39mm. I can accept 40mm. Anything larger is a no go.

    • @smoove314
      @smoove314 ปีที่แล้ว

      Check out their dress watches.

    • @RabbitWatchShop
      @RabbitWatchShop ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm not a dress watch type. Have a few; never wear them. @@smoove314

  • @mitchmatic8029
    @mitchmatic8029 ปีที่แล้ว

    Signum outshines, but have a limited edition Adamascus Wise-and in terms of fit and finish, not much can touch it.

  • @salam-s9y
    @salam-s9y ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Signum: Begun, the Lume Wars have...

  • @DoubleMatchP
    @DoubleMatchP ปีที่แล้ว

    My Dufrane Deep Eddy. Started the lume at midnight, still readable at 6am. Crazy. But is that what's happening with the Wise? Or is the Dufrane just an anomaly?

  • @eggsII
    @eggsII ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the hands cut to take advantage of the dial lume or are they separately lumed?

  • @bt3750
    @bt3750 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should really compare the lume to Signum's Cuda full lume dials

  • @mybrainlikesthings
    @mybrainlikesthings ปีที่แล้ว

    The product page says it has "light old radium", so what are they doing here? Radium paint treatments were outmoded decades ago for obvious reasons, and I think that that is an important moral question to raise, especially if these are going to rank as exceptional on your lume grading system.
    Apart from that, I can testify that Panerai has luminescence that stays strong for two hours, which as far as I know outperforms everything else, including Rolex.

  • @williamhill7312
    @williamhill7312 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great review

  • @larryfromwisconsin9970
    @larryfromwisconsin9970 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 2007 I bought a G Shock that was made in Thailand.

  • @sivanstar
    @sivanstar ปีที่แล้ว

    Would love to see a head to head with the king of lume, the signum cuda..

  • @glenh4971
    @glenh4971 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love the watch. However, the price is a little outside of my budget. Wise is a premium watch brand. I can appreciate the product.

  • @satl3161
    @satl3161 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please compare against Muhle Glasshutte SAR Lumen timer

  • @robertoehni7272
    @robertoehni7272 ปีที่แล้ว

    What about Tudor pelagos lume ?

  • @lurchio2
    @lurchio2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How does the lume on this compare to the zelos blacktip frost.

    • @JusttheWatch
      @JusttheWatch  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is way better than anything. Nothing else I've tested, including many full lumed dials from Zelos, even come close.

  • @CDB84
    @CDB84 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks well made just WISE id a brand of Potato Chips they need a new logo 😊

  • @ginocolella6373
    @ginocolella6373 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wise are fantastic watches ⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️

  • @iamtheshaker
    @iamtheshaker ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Dave, have you reviewed any Signum watches? I did a search and didn't see any on your channel, and I'm curious how the lume compares since these have similar full lume dials

    • @JusttheWatch
      @JusttheWatch  ปีที่แล้ว

      I have not! But everyone keeps telling me I need to check out their lume. Shane @RelativeTime did a lume comparison between this and the Signum full lime dial, and this one came out on top

    • @iamtheshaker
      @iamtheshaker ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JusttheWatch sweet, I’ll check his video out! (Randomly fun: we’re both located in DFW!)

  • @Marc_It_Down
    @Marc_It_Down 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is that a Zune?

  • @Thomas-cz2vg
    @Thomas-cz2vg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    too bad they don't use miyota 9015 and raise the price by 50 dollars. have far too many watches with nh 35 or 38

  • @kevinsong712
    @kevinsong712 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could you also review the Deep Blue Daynight Patriot? It has better value than this. 13 rainbow flat T100 tubes and 3 more on the hands. I had it specced with a bracelet and a rachet diver strap which comes to around $350 but starts at $280 with a strap.

  • @michaelhartzel5855
    @michaelhartzel5855 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I am sold.

  • @joshuajuarez3471
    @joshuajuarez3471 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But you are right. I daily drive all mine. Like never take off for couple weeks then rotate. I broke few glasses and the second hand fell off my hammy. Sucks but I will be more gentle with these. Anyways. I need a date also. Like gotta have a date

  • @victorutomo7244
    @victorutomo7244 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lume wise, it is wise for Wise to use great lume.

  • @lavatr8322
    @lavatr8322 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you recommend me watches that are around 20$ 30$ , that glow in dark

  • @Cuccos19
    @Cuccos19 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice, but instead of outline they should put solid hands and indexes on it for better visual. Otherwise nice, I wish for a field watch in 36mm, from 1 to 12 Arabic numerals and traintrack minute markings with this lume. Or simply a Flieger Type B dial/hands. Anyway why is the NH38 more harder to get? The NH35 has one more complication - that stupid date what I hate - and more and more microbrands thanksfully makes no-date watches. Seiko should put out more NH38, make it to the most produced movement in "that family".

  • @Monsieur-Estrada
    @Monsieur-Estrada ปีที่แล้ว

    Is this watch brand as good in quality as Automatics Citizen Divers?

  • @Williamjjp
    @Williamjjp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Please compare to studio underd0g watch!

    • @Williamjjp
      @Williamjjp 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Also the bell & Ross v2 94 full lum

  • @Jardker
    @Jardker ปีที่แล้ว

    Best lume = Best watch.
    Great video. Thank you.

  • @TomLambert-g7l
    @TomLambert-g7l ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your J score system .
    Keep up the good work!

  • @turbyoulance
    @turbyoulance ปีที่แล้ว

    I love this watch

  • @GodIsInHisHeaven
    @GodIsInHisHeaven ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review Dave! Although I believe lume is also about mass, the larger the surface area, the larger the fill, the brighter it will be. So to have this Hitman SE with large indices up next to a Zelos Spearfish with those skinny indices is hardly fair. However, they are very different watches anyway with the Spearfish being more dressy so lume wouldn't matter as much. When you compare to a Seiko though, that's a totally different story....

  • @servantofallah9425
    @servantofallah9425 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yeah, please a wise hitman full lume with day date, or atleast a date 🌹🌹🌹🌹

  • @HORIZONTIMEPASSIONEOROLOGI
    @HORIZONTIMEPASSIONEOROLOGI ปีที่แล้ว

    Wise works well

  • @zillsburyy1
    @zillsburyy1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    brightest i have is the HEMEL H1

  • @mattdp846
    @mattdp846 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this watch has drastically brighter intial lume?

    • @JusttheWatch
      @JusttheWatch  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      All watches do, but for the scoring I measure them after 1 hour in total darkness.

    • @mattdp846
      @mattdp846 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JusttheWatch Thanks. I was wondering if brighter (initially) is always better or there's a limit until it becomes uncomfortably bright.

  • @toshitominaga3911
    @toshitominaga3911 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Pelagos is probably the king of Lume

    • @gregorygoldbarth7464
      @gregorygoldbarth7464 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I respectfully disagree with you as my Wise hitman, full lume, dial completely obliterates my Pelagos, for that matter, it out performs in the LUME category any other of my pieces in my collection.

  • @Langlache
    @Langlache หลายเดือนก่อน

    -How much lume should we use boss?
    -Yes

  • @Lionheart732
    @Lionheart732 ปีที่แล้ว

    Better than the Namica?

    • @JusttheWatch
      @JusttheWatch  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think Namica wins on the design standpoint, but this has better specs, higher quality finishing and a better build quality.

  • @todddewell6314
    @todddewell6314 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very cool!!

  • @LS3Z51
    @LS3Z51 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lume last all night?

  • @16rumpole
    @16rumpole ปีที่แล้ว

    I liked the watches from Wise; but they just seemed to be pricey.

  • @jeffj318
    @jeffj318 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love the video. Don't like the music which distracts from your presentation.

  • @riseuplight
    @riseuplight ปีที่แล้ว

    I miss that tatame smell. If you know you know.

  • @RasputinVasilliov
    @RasputinVasilliov ปีที่แล้ว

    When you need a wide lens to get your mic in shot 😊

    • @JusttheWatch
      @JusttheWatch  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That and my slider is only like a foot long, so I need the wide angle lens to exaggerate the movement a bit too.

  • @lilsweeny1678
    @lilsweeny1678 ปีที่แล้ว

    none come close to my soki watches lume priced at only $2!

  • @varundhiman4422
    @varundhiman4422 ปีที่แล้ว

    bard jumbled words of this video title: "When comes to lume, watch this touch can nothing."

  • @weerobot
    @weerobot ปีที่แล้ว

    Lume Beast...

  • @tko8218
    @tko8218 ปีที่แล้ว

    Not sure if it's wise to buy a watch with a strong radioactive lume.

  • @furzkram
    @furzkram ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If it only had a date, or better, day/date.

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe ปีที่แล้ว

    Amen 🙏😉

  • @BobbyL2k
    @BobbyL2k ปีที่แล้ว

    Wise R&D team answered in a livestream that the special edition (full-lume) is only available as a no-date watch since it doesn’t look really good because the date wheel doesn’t have lume.
    I guess it probably won’t look too bad if the date is at 6 o’clock. But the Hitman series have always had the date at the 3 o’clock. So guess a black dark spot at the right won’t look really good.