The Locomotive of CHRISTMAS | Pere Marquette Class N-1 1225 | History in the Dark
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IT'S CHRISTMAS.
It's Pere Marquette 1225.
MERRY CHRISTMAS.
0:00 - Design and Service Life
2:11 - Preserved
5:30 - Restoration
12:25 - The Real Polar Express
"Pere Marquette 1225 is a class "N-1" 2-8-4 "Berkshire" type steam locomotive built in October 1941 for the Pere Marquette Railway (PM) by Lima Locomotive Works (LLW) in Lima, Ohio. No. 1225 is one of two surviving Pere Marquette 2-8-4 locomotives, the other being 1223, which was on display at the Tri-Cities Historical Society near the ex-Grand Trunk Western (GTW) coaling tower in Grand Haven, Michigan, and both have the distinction of being the only surviving Pere Marquette steam locomotives left in preservation. No. 1225 was well known to be the basis for the locomotive used in the 2004 film The Polar Express, earning itself the nickname "The Real Polar Express."
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I truly think 1225 has some odd history. For being a Michigan state piece to a movie star.
I still love how she was saved by a bunch of kids and is now the symbol for helping kids find the magic of Christmas
To this day, I still can’t believe 1225 was once paired with 4449 of all locomotives.
how so?
@@nursestoyland Well normally, I wouldn’t expect a west-coast steam excursion star to travel so far to Michigan, especially during a time when mainline steam excursions were restricted on most class 1’s (way before Richard Anderson made it worse) and when class 1’s were overly packed with slow freight runs. I know this was done to fill in for 261, but still.
@@sp786fanboy9richard anderson…was he the guy that organized the flying scotsman’s usa tour?
@@nursestoyland no, I’m talking about the same Richard Anderson who heavily restricted mainline private passenger operations in the US in 2018, back when he was CEO of Amtrak.
@@nursestoyland You're thinking of Alan Pegler. He's the one who organized Flying Scotsman's USA tour
It’s funny now that I think about it, it’s the only locomotive that has been to college 😄
NOT ONLY WENT TO COLLEGE ------ BUT
ENDED UP LANDING A STARING ROLE IN HOLLYWOOD ON THE BIG SCREEN !!!!!!!!!!
NOT TO BAD FOR A LITTLE YOUNGSTER FROM LIMA OHIO .....
Proves the fact that you don't need college education to be logical💡
I knew of the Polar Express first before I knew of Pere Marquette 1225, but Steam in the Spring is how I knew that the Pere Marquette 1225 was the real life Polar Express.
From what I read up that I remember, Warner Bros. asked the group to help with the movie by providing the engine's original builder plans for the animators to recreate for the movie (though some parts of it are inaccurate compare to the real counterpart). They even provided sound effects of the locomotive - minus the whistle - and other rail equipment for a more authentic and realistic feel to give the engine in the film, rather than just repurposing the same old library stock of sound effects and audios the film industry has in their possession. Which, in a way, was a smart move the company made. You don't see that many people in the film industry doing such a thing enough anymore these days when it involves a story about railways. For example: you just constantly hear the same old iconic whistle stock that originated from Canadian National 3254 when its whistle was out of tune at one point, every time nowadays.
the group saved the blueprints and 1225 from scrap! a great example of saving an engine outside of the uk
The only inconsistencies were the front end and the whistle - the front end to match the illustration of the book the movie was based on, and the whistle, due to Robert Zemeckis' fondness for #SierraRailroad3 and #BackToTheFuture3... oh, and Know-it-All Boy's statement that the locomotive was built by Baldwin, rather than Lima. But visually from the smokebox back, the locomotive is classic Lima.
@@kristoffermangila also, the polar express has a flux capacitor
The question that everybody wants to hear:
If the Polar Express was based on 1225, then why wasn't her whistle used in the film instead of Sierra n°3's whistle?
And a curiosity: the know-it-all boy (from the movie Polar Express) says that the locomotive was built by Baldwin, but it was made by Lima lol
Idk about the whistle but the know it all getting the build location shows that he in fact does not know it all and needs to stop trying to teach as much and learn more on his passion topic (or atleast that's my best guess)
Know it all getting everything wrong was explained in the movie kinda, with the whole learn part at the end. Hell you see idiots like him alot in railfaning from what I've heard lol
It's pretty much what the locomotive in the film was based on, but with modifications done such as the headlight built in the smokebox like what the Delaware and Hudson had on their steam locomotives, a 19th Century style cowcatcher but made of steal and of course the whistle was recorded from Sierra Railway no 3's Lima 5 chime whistle as that was main whistle sound but was edited for the film it had aswell as the first one being an unknown 6 chime whistle and South Simcoe 136's whistle in the part where rushes through the woods in the scene where the train ticket gets blown away for a minute or two.
Rumor has it that Robert zemeckis was attached to the #3 cause he worked with it during back to the future, so using the whistle was a little nod to that. And I haven’t seen it myself while watching the movie but people have said a flux capacitor is visible in the cab at certain points
@@Jbax-fl9esit might have been that, but I also heard that 1225s whistle back then was broken/not sounding right so they went ahead and used Sierra 3s
1225, the pride and joy of the Great Lake State.
Glad to see she survived all the machinations by Michigan State and that she's now back in service. When we visited Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum in June 2022 they said one of the projects they were working on was reconditioning PM 1225's drivers.
Sometime, you will have to make a video about Western Maryland Scenic Railroad 734. If I’m not mistaken, that engine is still very popular, despite being retired and replaced by 1309.
Thank you Darkness for doing a video on the Christmas locomotive!
Not only was the 1225 used for the book but the movie studio actually came to the SRI and animated the crew as well as recorded the sounds of the 1225 for the movie “polar express”
I have seen her under full steam, she is a magnificent site. I really want to see her decked out for Christmas.
I was just watching a TH-cam video of a recent 1225 North Pole Express run last night. You also had more details of her university display time than I knew of. Thank you for the info and Merry Christmas to you and everyone watching.
The best book about 1225 is "Twelve Twenty-Five: The Life and Times of a Steam Locomotive", by Trains Magazine writer and editor Kevin Keefe, who incidentally was a member and president of the MSU Railroad Club.
I really hope to see 1225 someday
Mainly because the polar express is one of my favorite Christmas movies
She’s one of my favorite steam locomotives
Along with Big Boy 4014 & Daylight 4449
I love 1225, she was the first american steam locomotive i learned about
The Polar Express is most favorite Christmas movie of all time
The movie got me into liking the 1225
As a volunteer at the Steam Railroading Institute, you blew this one out of the ballpark!
Amazing video.
She's a magnificent locomotive. Now, thanks to your superb explanation, we know how the Polar Express got written. You have filled in the gaps. Thank you. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. The only thing missing is Tom Hanks.
Fun little fact, this might be one of the only steam engines confirmed to have taken out a drone. It downed its first drone last weekend
Details man, details! What happened?
@@kristoffermangila someone somehow ran their drone into the side of the boiler right in front of the engineer while it was running last weekend
@@Jbax-fl9esDid the crew of the locomotive put a little white drone silhouette on the cab under the windows to signify its score?😁
You really have to note,that the PM engines,came out of the same Mechanical Committee,that started with the Erie Berks,later the NKP,and C&O,engines! Also the big Brothers, the T-1's,H-8's,AG's,and don't forget the BA's! Amazing family,and thankfully some are preserved! Thank you,for the fill in,of information! Definitely learned a lot! Thank you!! Lima,really built well,didn't they!! Thank you 😇 😊!!
I love these steam engines, iv been on the Polar Express,!!!!!!!!!!!.
Merry Christmas Dark.. Merry Christmas too All... And thank you for shining some light into mine..
Love this channel, my friend. Your passion is very much appreciated. Thank you much. Also, just a reminder: keep going, keep your passion. Looking forward to more. The WW2 stuff is awesome. I've studied WW2 for many years---the soldiers, weapons, tactics, battles won and lost---all of it has kept me immersed in an another lifetime. 😊 Oh, would you do a video on the F-4u Corsair? The best fighter of WW2.
Christmas BAH Humbug!💀🥶🍻🥃
My favorite Christmas train
Wow! That was amazing, Darkness. Beautiful video as always and Merry Christmas!
Another 1225 fact is that when she was delivered to the Pere Marquette in December 1941 it was only a day before Pearl Harbor was attacked. She like many other locomotives across the country helped America win World War II one of the most tragic chapters in history
Great video! Thank you for talking about 1225! My favorite steam locomotive!
What the heck were those university people thinking when they said “we don’t want an obsolete piece of machinery to study?“
Regardless of how old a machine is, you can still research how it function. Something like this would be a great way to show how thousands of parts work together to make the machine run. Not to mention 1225 was pretty much free, meaning all they had to do was make space for it
Well...the college boys ain't the sharpest tools out there😂
Hope you all had merry chistmas and spent good time with your families😊
What a great story!
Sitting here watching this while looking at 1223
Merry Christmas Darkness
Saw it last week
Great
He’s the king
We need a CSX P.M. heritage unit
OH MY GAH ITS CHRISTMAS
You should do a video on Canadian National 5703 (now renumbered to 5700 because of a funny mixup in the 60s) she has a bit of an interesting history and would be cool for you to cover on the channel, love your vids
great vid .. got my history juices flowing ... confused though everything says it got to MSU in 1957 but if you look at Historical Aerials .. its right there sitting on display in 1956 just south of Shaw ln where is splits to N and S Shaw by the tennis and Soccer? parks
Theres a news thing from the 70s that shows the engines restoration i think :)
All it needs is a Lima 5 chime whistle 😉
Props must go to Cyrus Eaton of C&O... here's a man who saved a LOT of his company's steamers - unlike a certain man who goes full demon every time he sees and/or hears a steamer nearby!
Meanwhile, in the UK, 1225 is impersonated by an 0-6-2T 🤣
YEAH MICHIGAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It should also been known that me and my uncle had the birthday on November 30th and note when he met 1225 he said “it’s a birthday special to me” and when it came to me “I love my birthday” it’s because we were both born on November 30th but separate but you could say she was restored before I was born and it was past when my uncle was born
I wonder, if the Pere Marquette 1225 was given a cameo appearance in Thomas and Friends, would they have given the engine a female personality or a male personality? Also, would the Pere Marquette 1225 be able to travel up Gordon’s Hill without having any problems while pulling a train?
Cant wait for CNW 175 to get back on the high iron.
Lets wait till 2026... at the earliest. That R-1 is in rough shape, having stayed outside for several years.
please do a video on
the porters steam loco
the Japanese class d5,
the Chinese QJ 2,10,2
or just exsamples of asian trains
how do gear trains work
something on saddle bolier and side tanks (like the big water boxes) tank engines
double ended diesel trains (and electric)
eletric trains
American and European switches other then the British class 07-09
what to do if the train stalls
one talking about the different types of steam funnles and there uses,
a video on steam locomotive combination breaks (steam and vacuum brakes)
a short video on how a Armstrong turn table works
what did train flagman do
what did trains (mostly steam) do when going in tunnels, ive heard of gas masks or just useing a wet cloth, or did they bring in other engines like later on they used electric trains, or were there no bigv tunnels.
evaluation of electric trains
why are some trains wagion tops (the stream lining thing to boilers)
railway terms abd slang
one on the meaning of flag and lantern colors like green on rear engine means theres another one coming soon,
the different types of cut offs/reversers/Johnson bar
some are a big lever, some are a big valve wheel, and ive also seen some that are like rods, one exsample is train sim world 3 and im not sure where to find the other reverser
and how much water do steam trains take usually, and how much would the crew drink
It is krimah!
Merry Crisis!
4.35M isn't really that bad for today 😅
1225 AND 1223?? You mean the Pere Marquette had a Christmas locomotive AND a Festivus locomotive?
Coincidence maybe, but yeah, it is!
Wasn't the Soviet JS class also a 2-8-4 Berkshire?
If i remember correctly their 2-8-4 type was named FD. I'd have to confirm that though.
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Why to the North Pole of course.
THIS IS THE POLAR EXPRESS!