Journalism is dying-will democracy go with it? | The Chris Hedges Report
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- Yet another wave of media layoffs is putting hundreds of journalists out of work across some of the largest major news outlets in the US, including CNN, the LA Times, Vox, Business Insider, CNBC, Garnett, and others. In an already-grim media landscape that's been decimated by decades of tanking revenues, this latest round of cuts raises serious questions about how the loss of so much journalism will impact our society. Newspapers closed at a rate of 2.5 per week in 2023, up from 2 per week in 2022. 3,000 of the US's 9,000 newspapers have permanently closed, and since 2005, two thirds of all journalists have lost their jobs. Pulitzer-winning reporter Gretchen Morgenson joins The Chris Hedges Report to discuss the crisis in media.
Gretchen Morgenson is the senior financial reporter for the NBC News Investigative Unit, and author of 'These Are the Plunderers: How Private Equity Runs-and Wrecks-America'
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Establishment journalism is dying. Independent journalism -- a journalism NOT based on corporate backing and high salaries -- is thriving. Journalism is NOT a place to get rich...it never should have been.
Should be feared as Check n Balance's for any group gov especially Corporations. Its Corporate Captured Privatized Government Opp against us.
I would agree with you, but it appears that there is an ongoing concerted attempt to try and strangle these independent voices as their popularity grows and MSM's dwindles.
Legacy media like the BBC, NYT, WSJ, Reuters, CBC, EBU and AP in cahoots with the very platforms these independent voices rely on like Google, YT and Meta through their Trusted News Initiative for example.
Well put.
Well put.
It's dead. Been dead for years
The average person knows “something is wrong”, but the standard news offers no answers.
The problem when you can't trust your systems and institutions to teach you how to look at things is that you really get blinded by your own ego and biased leanings. This is extremely dangerous when you need to open your mind to the fact that your very outlook on life itself may be wrong and very wrong. Unfortunately, our social media is far too quick to throw us in echo chambers where our biases are seemingly confirmed since there is always someone on social media willing to do the bidding of the mafia for free, and people end up more lost. I have had to admit my own failings a LOT in my quest to understand politics. Most are not as critical with themselves.
I think journalism is already dead in this country. There are very few decent journalists in the UK there is very little real democracy either.
You have a king in the UK.
Since Robert Fisk demise, Craig Murray is best....
We have independent journalists who have revealed so many secrets of our rulers. What could we do without them? Gleen Greenwald, Assange, Snowden, etc. We have the tech watch project exposing the brainwashing of our children by Google. Journalism is more alive than it has been in the last 20 years.
Democracy dies in distractions.
yup, people worried about taylor swift, the superbowl and bud light, like any of that matters to their own lives.. keeping the slaves addicted to commercial fascism is the name of the game.
Bread and Circuses. Well, maybe just circuses…
established news is slavery so those id disapearing not the journalism , only established journalism disapear so the video lie
I’m not too concerned, America is a constitutional republic so…
After a lifetime of subscribing to the New York Times, I cancelled my subscription last week. And last year I cancelled my subscription to my local daily when I decided continuing to subscribe was actually supporting their business model of massive layoffs.
Time to start the arduous journey of finding a handful of journalists to follow that work in good faith and have a track record of being correct.
@@fs127American freedom: "Students Losing Job Offers Over Palestinian Support"; "The Regent University Dean Michele Bachmann calling for the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza"; "U.S. intel spied on Trump aides prior to official FBI investigation";
we cancelled ours post bush-cheney, gop neocon Iraq LIE$...ominously revisited by "genocide joe" neocon LIE$, wars, war crimes...this lifetime Poly-Sci guy remains stunned by our mother's realization prior her demise that Obama involvement had left her considering him the greatest fail in her democratic party lifetime...she would be stunned by Tucker Carlson recent expose' w Mike Benz...
So it wasn't anything to do with the NYT becoming nothing more than a propaganda outfit for the Biden regime. Interesting.
China has cleverly gained leverage and control over US journalism by becoming the sole supplier of INFLATABLE BOY SCOUTS !
it's nice to see Chris Hedges laugh.
We need new generation of John pilger, Julian assange, gonzalo lira, etc.
Also need international org to backup for fund and protection for independent journalism.
At least we still have lil b the basedgod
Are you keeping kidding?
Have you seen what happened to those people?
The first two yes not sure about the last one
@criztaliz3413 In 33:03 "It's about illuminating the dark corners and shining a light on bad behavior. It's about all these things that people need to understand that are affecting their lives every day. But they don't know it"
@@madeleineswords704"The oppressors, who oppress, exploit, and rape by virtue of their power, cannot find in this power the strength to liberate either the oppressed or themselves.
Only the oppressed who will be able to liberate both themselves and their oppressors by restoring the humanity of both groups." (Paulo Freire)
Always an educator, I salute Chris Hedges - one of the genuine moral giants of our age.
Education and Journalism morals is to be truthful. He's not at all. And neither is your post.
@@harristiller9631please do enlighten us with your truth. I wonder what it is you know that Chris is knowingly hiding.
Mr Hedges i'm french and it's people like you that give me hope. If freedom of the press go we are done as free humans.So i thank you for your work and courage .As they say the thruth shall prevail
the 'Dark Ages' they dread began long ago with Reagan. American 'News-o-tainment' has long been a bad BAD joke
Yeah... Our democracy died when the DNC fell to legalized bribery and Reagan killing our unions. Unfortunately, I never lived during the time when it could have been possible to fight our fall. Only to be a victim of all of the fallout.
The News we get here in Australia is B.S. It's mostly Car accidents, some guy loses his dog, a house burned down, and lots of lots of brain-dead Sports!
I would call that a blessing rather than the divisive and distracting nonsense here in the US. Aussies are probably happier for it
I see Australia still have good news networks rather than the garbage lies and propaganda the west spews.
This woman is LEGEND!!!! Thank you so much for bringing Gretchen on - the ONLY reason to read the Times. The business section has been a pathetic trash heap ever since with literal cartoons depicting workers as if workers aren't human. Just Awful. Occupy never would have happened without this SHERO!
If journalism today symbolizes democracy, then we're certainly in trouble for a reason.
We’re cooked
Democracy only survives with a well educated and informed public.
If journalism has failed them then yes.
Journalism is far from dead. What is dead is corporate sponsorship of said journalism
Yeah......I totally understand what you are saying!
She mentioned the editors- why hasn’t more attention been paid to them?
Journalism has been dead
How do you get your news then? You have a problem with every single thing you consume?
We certainly need real journalism. But we could do without MSM. Not gonna happen, though, not with many millions still falling for them.
I don't know about that.....
It’s up to the people who should boycott msm.
@@elviajove8289Thinking, speaking and acting on your own are fading. Boycott on daily brainwashing: Rede Globo, CNN, FOX, MSNBC, CBS, DW, France 24, Yle TV1, Rai, SKY News
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The thing keeping the MSM/cabel news alive is pharma advertising. Remember, pharma companies don't advertise on MSM to promote their products. They do it to buy off the media.
When was the last time the corporate press held the powerful to account?
My hearfelt condolences to Brenda Starr and Clark Kent.
New Dark Ages is absolutely correct
Great show. However... the media has been making serious mistakes... about Trump, about COVID, about Gaza, etc... and trust is being seriously lost, and not because people are crazy conspiracy theorists/consumers.
I am one of 66% Americans shunning political party as INDEPENDENT, $ick of both corporate fascist war parties... but all must view revelatory Tucker Carlson interview of Mike Benz!...
Excellent show and straightforward news presentation 👏 thank you.
Journalism isnt dying. Corporate journalism is fading away but journalists changed to bloggers
To answer the question posed in the title of the video: yes.
We haven’t had Democracy in at least since raygun
@@elviajove8289 We have never had a democracy.
Q1: What's the difference between storm troopers showing up at your door to throw you out of your home because of your race or ethnicity as under Naziism, Zionism, or Apartheid, and a Sheriff, showing up at your door to throw you out of your home flanked by either a militarized local police force or a privately "owned" police force because of your financial status? Are these scenarios the same thing, or does capitalism make the latter legitimate? Keeping in mind that Naziism, Zionism, or Apartheid, as forms of government, also "legitimize" these actions. Q2: Should anyone be allowed to throw you out of your home for any reason if you're not hurting anyone? America loves violence. Capitalism is based on it.
Yes, I agree, the same.
Indeed 👍
Agreed, I would add to this that capitalism-imperialism guides *all* of the scenarios.
I have been saying Capitalism Imperalism kills for a few years now. People will deny it because the college run by zionists will have peoole believe it. They believe they cannot live without Capitalism. And those that love their capitalism are complaining about the economic situation.
@@sentientnatalie💯 correct. Capitalism is the cause of apartheid, Zionism, Nazism, which are all elements of fascism (the direct dictatorship of the most reactionary and chauvinistic elements of the financial capital itself).
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I think this is very scary. I don’t think in the UK it’s as bad as it is in the States. But certainly if it’s bad in the US, it’s going to be bad for the world in terms of the effect on democracy, holding the rich and powerful to account and so on. What’s interesting here is that a paper like The Morning Star is probably in a pretty decent position in terms of being small and nimble, and not relying on ad support. It’s the readers who own and fund it, so maybe we can see a return to popular socialist journalism at the expense of capitalism cheerleading rags. And hopefully that also means the continuation of the physical paper. I think that’s important.
Could you be any more deluded? You have a king in the UK.
@@chasthanhburns123 I’m not sure what that has to do with anything I said. And also the percentage who want to abolish the monarchy is quite high now, and rising.
@@christill You said the USA is worse than the the UK. You have a king. How is that better than the USA? You mention democracy as if either nation has ever had a democracy. Neither has. You are brainwashed into believing ignorant things. Democracy is when the people vote on laws. That does not nor ever has happened in the USA or UK. Pick up a history book and stop believing the ignorance pushed upon you by the elitists that control media.
Mi6 perfected psy ops in n. Ireland including manipulating newspaper stories to incite fears of black magic. The city of London is specifically designed for companies to dodge their home country’s finance laws. The uk has one of the sophisticated domestic spying operations on the planet. The British empire and her pirates? You still have a monarchy. So it’s funny you think it’s not that bad.. you can’t just believe what your rulers tell you. In secret, they order assassinations, coups, spy on their citizens, lie, think you can’t handle the truth and need to be controlled, coverup, embezzle, take bribes, insider trade, and sell influence. They leverage their positions to benefit their friends, family, lovers, and themselves. it’s their job. What do you do at your job? Maximize profit. All the politicians are coworkers too in this sense - so they compete but also they work together, there is social politics and all the usual human dilemmas. The reason it’s so egregious is that they spend other people’s money and ruin/end people’s lives, and lead entire countries. I think it’s quite obvious why this has happened, our character as a society has degraded. No one takes their job seriously, they just do the least they have to. This is who we are as a people and the cure is we need to choose to be better, be different. We need to choose to hold people accountable. Personally, I have no faith in this happening. The decline is in full swing and it won’t change until it crashes and burns.
I used to work in a newspaper composing room. Journalism has been dead long before most of you kids were born. LOL
We can always find great journalism on the Internet...such as this.
😂😂😂😂😂 “Democracy”
Journalism is not dying the mainstream media is
Excellent episode
I turn to TH-cam ( like your program) for my news. I really don't care if some of these right wing papers go belly up. I do hope that journalistic investigative reporting continues to thrive.
For 12 years, I was a reporter for daily newspapers on the West Coast and in the Rocky Mountains until 1998. I quit after several years of increased workload of shorter stories, but still horrible pay. Combined with the obvious increasing pressure to "sex up" my stories, as one editor and now editor a larger paper said, it was enough.
"Sexing up" stories to sell more papers, ads and survive unfortunately defines much journalism at all levels. Today, regardless of personal politics, most news "consumers" no longer trust "the media." And, so it is. I have no idea what the future holds, but here, in the US, it won't be good. I've been planning to exit the US for many reasons, journalism among them.
Great interview, folks.
Made me think of my mum in the 90’s. She started her own paper called ‘Crabgrass’ cuz nobody likes crabgrass 😂
These are the kinds of conversations and fears my professors were having with us in like 2012. One staff member actively encouraged students to change their major. Cannot imagine how impossible it is to do good journalism now. No one wants to pay for it and most people don't want to hear it.
Journalism is thriving, 😂😂😂😂 just not corporate controlled journalism
The better news is on the internet; Gray Zone, this channel, The Duran, Danny Haiphong, Democracy Now, and WION. Max Blumenthal, Aaron Mate, Chris Hedges, Glenn Greenwald, Tucker Carlson, Danny Haiphong and Jimmy Dore are great example of today’s Morrows and Mike Wallaces.
And Ben Norton and his “Geopolitical Economy Report”
Alison Morrow has gone independent, on YT
Dore, greenwald and Carlson are fascists grifters my dude
@@lukeolson5177Still drinking the DNC & Neocon Koolaid I see.
@@KbB-kz9qpnope he’s correct
Journalism and Democracy are dieing because they partnered with socialism, progressivism. Just my opinion 🤫
Excellent conversation- thank you. I have worked as an independent contractor for one of the legacy news outlets mentioned here and have experienced editorial gymnastics re: the coverage of a certain region that Chris alluded to. In the early 2000s, an editor actually replaced the term “Occupied Territories” with IS, until I called it to her attention that some parts of the edited text implied that IS was bombing *itself*. About a decade later, in a news history piece about the events of 1948, I used the term “expulsion” in reference to the forced migration of 750,000 residents away from their homes. To this the editor issued a somewhat nonsensical apology noting that the subject of the establishment of that nation-state was a contentious one and there wasn’t sufficient evidence to describe what occurred to the previous inhabitants as “expulsion.” These are just two examples among many; it is not surprising how the same outlet sanitizes, through passive voice and other linguistic contortions, the current genocidal slaughter.
How many people were arrested and convicted for 2008 mortgage crisis
Journalism is not a crime ✊
Listening to this drivel you'd think Chris never heard of, let alone read, Chomsky/Herman's book "Manufacturing Dissent". Where does Hedges imagine that Consent was manufactured in 1988 when the book was published, if not in the editorial and news rooms of places like the New York Times, whichi arrogantly called itself the "paper of record" - which was perhaps true, insofar as the NYT left us an historic record of the American oligarchy's high regard for the likes of Benito Mussolini, whose government featured in numerous postively-slanted editorials on the Op-Ed pages of the infamous NYT between 1922 and 1939.
So there's that.
The idea that the American corporate press has ever served "Democracy" is absurd. One need only go look to the career of George Seldes, who was drummed out, and ostracized from the profession of Stenographers in the 1940s for telling unpleasant truths that these supposed "bastions of freedom" found too inconvenient (for their bottom lines) to publish.
???'Manufacturing Consent'...but you make a valid point.
Journalism is not dying, it has just moved to other platforms than legacy media. Actually, I feel that I am BETTER informed these days, surfing the internet, than I have ever been back in the days of print and TV news. Cheers from Denmark!
Freedom of speech and press now ✊
“Dark Ages” was mentioned. Reminds of Chesterton’s tam on Europes dark age from the fall of Rome in 475 AD until about 1300 AD.
During those 800 or so years the Christian remnants of the inteligencia old pagan Roman Empire, went into convents and monasteries. They preserved the ancient book and scrolls, set up universities and established the foundations for the Enlightenment.
And now Chris has been booted from this show for his journalism and thoughts
Alternative news sources is were you can find the truth.
Journalism at its best makes the powerful accountable. Investigative private journalism needs to be supported and cherished
They do not want the Truth out here, that's it in a nut shell
“I’m not gonna work for that person. The kind of person that would make that comment …”
RESPECT.
Excellent talk. It is hard not to just despise all politicians, etc...promises, promises...but I still feel it''s important to try and stay informed without following anyone in particular...keep questioning, keep learning, keep an open mind and state your views wisely.
The fundamental issue with this episode is that both seem to idealise the past, when in reality the news institutions were always what they are now, living at the behest of the advertising $$$. This means that “holding power to account” could NEVER happen by design. Yes, there were some individual takedowns, but the system was always protected. And the individual takedowns could never become systematic because what would be the pitch to the advertisers?
“Hello, dear brand XYZ CEO, come place your ad with us, we’re holding your ilk to account!” - How would this work even in theory, let alone in practice?
That’s why the whole premise of self-congratulatory nostalgia is just wrong, as it’s counter to any evidence or logic.
No, Chris and Gretchen, ad-driven legacy media was ALWAYS shit, its premise and business model is shit, it’s nothing-nothing!-other than a PR cover for the rich and powerful, irrespective of what stories its drones keep telling themselves.
This is why I read Pravda . LOL
The chosen people footprints is everywhere…
I will enlighten you all...
advertising is Public Enemy number ONE .
I've never seen Chris laugh as much as he did in this episode. I'm very happy to see his sense of humor!
Independent journalism is growing and it's better than the old mainstream journalism.
Journalism is fine. It's not dying.
They have ZERO respect. You want it changed? Change it.
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She details the destructive changes in her industry & the forces that are responsible for those changes along with their dangerous consequences very clearly. Then, as the discussion transitions to Trump, she then expresses her fear of how he is the threat & wishes that we place our trust in the very same mechanisms & institutions that have been destroying her industry. Please tell me if I misunderstood that....
You probably didn't.
The Star Tribune in Minnesota literally inserts DIE talking points into every story 🤮🙄 who wants to be lectured daily?
Chris Hedges ✊
Well said and explained!
Keep up the good work Chris and TRNN.
It’s so refreshing listening to credible news with level headed minds and souls. Thank you Chris Hedges and The Real News Network for your fantastic reporting 🙏🏼
TRUE Democracy has already gone with it. Truth in journalism is the most important part of keeping this Constitutiinal Republic.
I can recall L.A.'s skid row, downtown generally, sometime in the mid 80s.
A fellow would show up, early morning, hustling the paper to more than a few "bums" and down-and-outers looking to read the headlines and catch up on the news of the day. People in the fast food joints and at breakfast counters regularly read from a stash of papers left by others in a rack, drinking cheap coffee and discussing ideas, trading opinions, arguing politics.
Same reading habits at the library, whether those well-heeled or a bit more shabby.
We've fallen, to say the least, quite terribly into the pure numbness of ignorance -- and defeat.
Big account advertisers, I'm sure, in the past may have occasionally expected some favours in return from their media platforms, particularly in terms of placement, but I'm equally sure they didnt try and fundamentally influence and dictate editorial content as they do now in return for their money.
Actually, I read an article some years ago that documented how the advertisers pressure the paper media to, for example, put supporting stories next to their ads.
So, no, they do expect favors.
Great conversation with an all too true conclusion.
FASCISM IS UPON US
This was a fantastic program. I was one of those people with my mortgage in 2008 house upside down couldn’t sell the house and supposedly qualified for the Obama refinanced to help me. None of that was true, of course and so I went to federal court, and the judge agreed with me, but still wouldn’t say that I owned the house outright since nobody owned my house technically because of all the bundled mortgages these bank did. The Law Firm going against me was some type of top Law Firm that tried to squash people all over the world. I didn’t even realize that of what I was up against. I just wanted my house to have them refinance to be able to afford staying in it. When I told the judge that the other side finally dropped it this multi national Law Firm of somebody who was living very middle-class, but I was up against an Illinois. The other side dropped it, and then I got some lawyer in Wisconsin and was able to get a refinance of my loan to be able to pay pay it each month and stay in my house with my daughter. I just recently paid off the bubble that I acquired by doing that $150,000 years later.
I realize then nobody technically owned my mortgage because of these assholes and I’m one of the lucky ones that got to stay in my house where it was worth half the price I had bought it for. The predator country USA it’s really disgusting to live here on every level
Missing Chris already
Democracy is going and has been going I believe. Slow but sure for a few decades.
There never was democracy in the USA. You people are brainwashed.
This is the most I've ever seen Chris jovial & laughing, great to see him in this mood😅
That was a good discussion, thanks.
In short: "Emancipate yourselves from mental slavery. None but ourselves can free our minds. (Bob Marley)
Easy greatest intro track all time
Thank you both for your important insights
Journalists?
With the presence agenda & bias and the absence of fairness, facts, and truth, the title journalist and the profession itself are left empty and barren.
If there was true journalism, I'd pay for it, but I can't find it.
Democracy...................what democracy?
We are seeing a collapse of our souls as a society. I pray for a better world!!
Is there a crowdfunding model for independent Journalists? In depth reporting on big issues takes time and funds.
Thank you for your reporting and analyses, Chris Hedges.
The reason journalism is dying is because journalists have stopped investigating and only ape what the government or corporate bosses tell them. people are fed up with that and go to internet independent journalism instead. they may not investigate too much yet but some are adn it is coming when they can find more financial support. Running around the country and the world to investigate does not come cheap.
It's already gone.
Get ready for Cop City USA
Great reporting as always Chris
I literally abandoned a writing career at the recommendation of several journalists i meet in the 00s.
It’s not dying here...👍......and where it is dying...it’s has been invaded....by the greed.
'New Confessions of an Economic Hitman' by John Perkins is an ASTONISHING read!
Thanks Chris
nuland looks like such a kind gentle woman.
News has gone online. Newspapers disappeared years ago. Journalism got left behind by advancements in science and technology. A major in journalism won’t get you very far these days. News sources need experts now to help interpret sophisticated information for their public. Most journalists are practically illiterate when it comes to complicated subjects in science and technology.
Incredibly smart ! this was amazing . thank you
Madame Morgenson thank you
The title alone is why I can’t take Hedges and his ilk seriously..
Journalism is “dying”?
I think the more appropriate question is:
*When was it “alive”?*
Couldn’t have happened to a more arrogant and self righteous group of individuals; adapt or whatever and quit your self important crying.
FREE ASSANGE NOW ✊
People want infotainment not journalism. We're doomed.