They all do. I gave up on Aldas because he was stretching a realistic 5-8-minute video into a 10-20-minute video every time. Now LawVS is doing the same as Aldas, and it's wearing thin too. It's because it's lucrative: they can squeeze a lot more ads in.
@@mikespearwood3914 is Aldas still doing that? Man, I remember when he just started his videos just felt so stretched out but I feel like he improved that at some point and that was cool because I feel like he is a cool guy who worked hard to get to where he is, even though I wasn't a fan. I just don't watch him mostly because I can't stand the way he talks with the little breaks in the middle of a sentence.... where he sounds like he is always asking a question?
They have perfected the art. I honestly barely ever actually watch their videos and just come here for the comments, if you follow F1 and look at the timestamp titles you already know all you need about what they are going to say.
@DeathBlocks the problem is that the title is why we , I, you click on this stuff just to find out that it is only a general run on what we already know , click bait.
@@woodduck2178it maybe the first time this company makes an engine, but not its people. They hired so many people from Merc that built those monster V6’s for the hybrid era and from other teams. The people there know how to design from scratch and build an engine. They may not nail it, but I’ll be more surprised if they struggle.
it doesn't make sense to twist at this point, being 2026 a major update for car design, i think they should square up and stick to the car's design for an extra year
yep. It's not like they had a massive fall in performance. It makes no sense to change the concept with only one year left. They will probably stick to it, fix what they can and center around getting it right for the next cycle.
@@LouSassol69er from what ppl are saying they have a lot to worry about. Early noise from merc that they have found something once again. And we all remember 2014…
@@stuartedwards6223 well the Redbull engine project is looking good by all accounts. Ahead of schedule, staff are confident their engine will be among the best and people who've seen their power trains facility are impressed by what they see. Also, this isn't 2014 again. Mercedes had their hand in hybrid tech years before anyone else was dabbling on the grid, hence why they had massive engine advantage. This time, everybody had advanced knowledge of the engine regs and even if they have advantage, won't be nearly as much as they did back then.
@@stuartedwards6223and that is why Sainz choose to go to Williams, ngl the Merc engine has been almost unstoppable since the start of the V6 era. Red Bull only won because of the better chassis and aero, but their engines aren't even as close to Merc or even Ferrari.
I feel Red Bull going the same way as Williams back in 1997 , last year of Newey design etc ..... I don't think Wache will continue Adrian's excellent designs.
@@cben86 Τhe Red Bull RB20 reminds me of the awkward in some races but fast (and personal favorite because of Villeneuve) Williams FW19. Adrian had signed with McLaren, with gardening leave exactly as today . Patrick Head (Technical Director) and Gavin Fisher (Chief Designer) struggled a lot in Williams ,especially in the following season of 1998, the absence of Newey was noticeable.
@@Asator95 It will be interesting to see where RedBull goes from here. Lots of talent beyond just Newey has recently left the team. It gives other people the opportunity to step up.
Don't forget the change in technical regs. surrounding differential braking per axle. The FIA didn't say who had been using it but the sudden slowing of the Red Bull would seem to be a clear indicator.
Major changes have just as good a chance to screw things up as doing nothing. They need to optimize all portions of a race weekend including the car. Get the most out of setup, find a few things that can be tweaked or optimized and go from there. With a new reg cycle coming up it isn't worth losing half a season on a new concept (See mercedes and McLaren and Ferrari when they changed their concepts.)
Instead of a concept change a 2nd driver change would have also helped. It would be hard to find someone who can actually regularly beat the drivers of the other 3 teams but at least giving them a harder time would help.
I just don't get why they have to keep changing the regulations, just as the cars are starting to come together. It's incredibly frustrating as a long time f1 fan (40+ years), to see this pattern repeat and repeat and repeat.
I agree. I feel like big regulation changes should be closer to 10 years, with adjustments made in that period. Not 5 years. 2014-2021 felt like a good amount, with the adjustment in 2017. I feel like this one started just as an engine change, and I understand that some changes to the cars would be needed but this feels unnecessary.
finally someone said it , you can even look back at the race dates and put them besides the dates of the drama and announcements coming out of the rbr team , chronologically .. it definitely looks like the team fell off after neweys announcement
I used to think this was kind of coincidence based more on the other teams improving and how Horner said Newey hasn't been the main contributor as much for a while. But then looking back at the way he said it and how he is talking about Wheatly now that he is leaving I'm starting to think that might have been a lie. Or maybe not, and two of the highest ranking long standing team members really weren't all that important at all.
I think RB should just make a B spec RB20 where they try fix the flaws over the off season and go full send for 2026 aero and powertrain to keep themselves in winning or championship contention, otherwise they could have a very real chance of becoming upper midfielders when new rules come
@@spaced5155 I am, also mclaren did that with the MP4/18 if i remember correctly, and that car was much worse than this one, the RB20 can be much quicker than every other car on the field when the setup is right, fixing the rear suspension and just running it next year would guarantee performance at minimal cost
On a side note if Max leaves for Merc what happens with Antonelli? Surely if Merc cant guarantee him a seat for 2025 then other teams will try to snatch him, maybe a coco pops team with 2 extra seats
one possible direction is to repeat what they did in 2021, the last year of the previous design spec F1 car... build a B-spec RB20 with most of the bugs from 2024 solved and save costs in 2025... to prepare for 2026 amd the new specs...
I feel most competitive teams will be doing this. It doesn’t make sense to try and reinvent a whole new car when everything about it will get tossed at the end of the season. Will probably lead to a lot of teams with a competitive car next year
@@mikespearwood3914 that is mostly true, there were some changes to floor in 2021 that mostly worked to handicap the mercedes and racing point (aston martin) cars bringing them more in line with their competition. I dont think that was the original intention of the changes, many people at the time thought it would actually hit RB the hardest, but thats how it played out. The 2021 cars were actually slower than the 2020 cars its just that some cars didn't require as many modifications to get them running in spec. RB spent more development time ironing out the kinks of their 2020 car as opposed to any fundamental changes to their concept. Had Mercedes been able to simply run a straightforward B spec of their 2020 car we likely wouldnt have seen a title battle in 2021, or at least it wouldn't have played out as intensely as it did in reality.
@@kekitsjack5765 the original intention was tires based. Pirelli designed the tires of the time with the idea of 2020 being the last year that they would be used and with the aero improvements and it not being sensible for them to put in all that time and money to adjust the tires for just one season the floors were changed. I can't remember who were thought to be hit the hardest beforehand, but I do remember someone from Mercedes (I think Toto) said they didn't expect that kind of impact at all.
The curious thing is, if we compare this year's season with dozens of other seasons from different years, RB is still impressively dominant, but as a contrast with 2023, when Verstappen won an obscene amount of races, RB seems to failing miserably.
I think Redbull can keep squeezing out performance from the car, just need to make wise upgrades to make it better. The problem is they don’t have Newey to guide them in the proper direction and I believe that’s been showing recently. Their recent changes weren’t in line with Newey’s initial path set forward. So the car is slowly falling back into the pack. Hopefully they can turn it around and keep both drivers competitive……given Perez can actually drive the car closer to Max.
Their PowerTrains is more of a problem for Red Bull since their engine has never been yet Tested on an actual car. They'll struggle a lot since they'll be needing to use their own engine in 2025 and will not be focused on development due to the upcoming regulations in 2026 which is more priority of every engine developer.
Domination periods come and, inevitably go, not just in F1 but most team sports. So too shall the RB dominance end, and maybe in 2026 or maybe later, another team will find some trick to be dominant. We shall see.
Marko can't smooth egos like Dietrich. He let the Horner witch hunt get out of hand and he lets Jos run his mouth. Ver is critical of the car which can't be flattering to Newey. Somehow, Checo is protected which sends a very bad message to the rest of the team. This is how a once dominant team loses it's way.
How does the FIA regulate CFD aero modelling in practice? I’d be keen to see a video on that process, what kind of software and hardware resources they use, and how it’s all measured and reported. Like, if someone did a cheeky bit of homework on their gaming rig, then comes into work suggesting tweak a bit of bodywork, how would the FIA know?
It will be an interesting season next year as the 2025 car will be one without ANY Newey input, so I guess we will see just how much they miss him and if they miss the mark. I think most teams will take on the learnings of 2024 and try to either work them into or out of the 2025 car abd with only one season left on the current regulations, I don't think they will come out with a totally new concept. We shall see.
"Red Bull won't make the same mistake, it's too good for that," Never say never. After all, part of the reason pundits at the time thought Lewis Hamilton had "sabotaged his career" by announcing his 2013 move to Mercedes from McLaren, was because it was felt that McLaren were considered too good to make mistakes with their car concept. Indeed, Hamilton said in a late 2012 Press conference to his McLaren replacement, Sergio Perez, "your car next year looks awesome, you'll be hard to beat next year." Yet as this video shows, McLaren did get it spectacularly wrong, not really recovering until 2021
Imagine if RB had one of the best engineers in F1 to help sort out their issues. Let's call this person "Adrian". Adrian is top-notch with aero design, and they could help sort out the venturi effect with lowered ride height. I'd reckon that could help them significantly. Oh well, a man can only dream!
Yep, Newey was the guy who designed Red Bull's all important suspension layout, Red Bull has suddenly hit some major ride quality issues after Adrian's departure... It doesn't take an Einstein to put one and one together.
Why did it feel that RBR was so bored with dominating in 2023 that they took on a challenge to make the Mercedes style work. I can see Red Bull copies alot of McLaren next year and will be a solid battle.
Being realistic, it won't - Verstappen is too consistent to let that happen, not to mention the huge 78 point gap he already has to Norris. People want so bad to see RBR decline but we said the same about Mercedes after 7-8 dominant years.
@@balazsmiklos9509verstappen to Aston isn't out the realms of possibility. Newey might be going there and they have just secured a Honda deal; two big factors that took max to his championships 🥲
Everybody knows that when it comes to asking questions about technical directions the drivers are the most important... At least it seems so based on the amount of technical questions the drivers gets and that this video cites. Who even needs a few years at university to understand fluid dynamics or mechanical engineering.
'It was almost inevitable when you get consistency of regulations you get convergence' Yeah, Christian. Exactly that. That is what we need, fckin consistency so everyone can have a fighting chance. Okay maybe not Alpine and Sauber but my point stands.
Upgrades and all the engineering work is planned month(s) in advance. Newey was working on upgrades to come out down the road when he left. The upgrades that came out when he left were his from well before that time. The fact they fell off immediately speaks to other issues, like the power struggle and Jos stirring the pot affecting the team.
@@AlexConnor_ that was only for a short time. He’s not doing any dev work on the car anymore. He also isn’t attending every race. He did attend the British GP I think, but that was to sell the RB17 road car.
As amazing as Newey is, he is one of many engineers working for Red Bull. He is still working there and he has a great work ethic, he isn’t going to slack because he is leaving. Newey gets credited for lots of things he doesn’t do.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the RB concept similar to the Mercedes concept last year?…. It seems as though even though they have been way more successful that Mercedes they still face extremely similar issues as Mercedes did! Eg the set up window is almost on a knife edge! Tbh I’m surprised they don’t go back to the 2023 car as surely a car that was that dominant would be better! They wouldn’t be the first team to do this either…
Verstappen to Aston Martin is the only clever choice if he has to maintain his good F1 career with Newey also going there in 2025. Newey with a huge budget team, Newer facilities, Dan fallows and Honda is gonna cook the competition.
Disagree - Lawrence Stroll will never let that team thrive as long as he has total control over everything and his son is still in a seat. Just because you sign big names does not guarantee competitiveness. Only way AMR will be taken seriously is if the Strolls both leave.
@@alexpeak16 He can send his son to the Valkyrie Le Mans project for 2025-26 if He is really in desperation and strong intention to fight for championships. I am sure he'll find a way he's a good business man and knows how to get returns on his investments
I imagine they will keep on making minor adjustments and improvements they can carry over into next years car, but neither year will have anything revolutionary. For all the crisis talk the car is still very quick and dosent need a whole redesign. RB being a victim of their own success.
I think Red Bull is targeting 3rd place in the championship exactly because they want the additional testing budget. That's why they kept Perez around.
Mercedes was dominant for 8 years even with numerous regulation changes and tweaks that were clearly, without question, targeted directly at their car and drivers. Guess RB is the weaker team in that respect if they are so quickly overwhelmed.
Different times though. the token system made it almost impossible to catch up until it was finally scrapped. Mercedes had such a dominant engine that all they had to do was fine tune everything else.
Mercedes dominated in an era without a budget cap (Merc spent tens of millions more each season than anyone else), no ATR restrictions based on constructor standings and the most dominant PU ever in the back of their car while the only other serious team (Red Bull) literally had the most underpowered and unreliable PU from 14-18 and then a better but still underpowered Honda PU from 19-20. In 2021 Honda finally almost caught up PU wise (still worse than the Merc PU but atieast close) and RB challenged for the title immediately. Your whole commenr is absolutely delusional my guy.
@@Reaz399 sorry you’re still off the mark here. No cost cap means others could also spend, why didn’t they? And regulations after regulations were created specifically to slow down the Merc, many times, to the point that the FIA just said it out loud. The entire switch to ground effect cars vs downforce cars was EXPRESSLY designed to trip up Mercedes, this was an open admission that all the commentators remarked on forever. Calling people “delusional” doesn’t get you off the hook for a weak argument. Everyone had the same opportunities. And Merc customer teams did poorly during that era (Force India anyone?) so the PU was not the most dominant factor, it was driver lineup, aero, AND PU. Or why wasn’t it all Merc motors in the top 10?
@@DeathBlocks I don't know, I'm just speculating. Their deg was so superior yet now McLaren's is better and Mercs is there or thereabouts along with Ferrari. For teams to gain outright pace on them _and_ overtake/match one of their greatest strength's in just a bunch of races seems very odd to me, more likely one side gained whilst the other side lost out and they met in the middle. Could be wrong though.
An Aston Martin F1 Team with Honda Power + Adrian Newey + Max Verstappen + Oscar Piastri = Dream Team Before we all down play that let me mention Honda is a power house Adrian Newey has past and present ties with Honda making his transition essentially much easier (familiar with Honda personnel, work ethic and most importantly the engine design) Aston Martin has whispers in the paddock of speaking with Adrian Adrian may see Aston as the right challenge before ending his career being a team not quite at the back needing an extra push to make it not impossible to fight at the front A Championship win with Aston may be the cherry on top of Newey's career of proving he can make a team a winner. Max may not like the performance of Ford + RedBull Max is linked to want Adrian Newey Max is familiar with Honda Max new contract ends 2028 (can be sooner if exit clauses are there) in time when Aston has ironed out their issues and much improved after 1-2 years in new regulations. Oscar is new now so will still be in F1 in 2026 and beyond Oscar will be off McLaren contract by end of 2026 (can be sooner if exit clauses are there) Oscar will be able to see a much improve Aston Martin for 2027 when Adrian's contribution will start to kick in.
@@lankyboy90When will his deluded father get the fact Lance is not good enough for F1 anymore? It’s a cynical team with cynical ambitions. Newey going there is rumour mill and nothing more. Besides, Lawrence will never give him the technical freedom he thrives on. That team will never be taken seriously as long as the Strolls are around.
@@alexpeak16 I don't think he ever will. He wants his son to be a champion. To do that, he will need the best car. Getting Newey onboard will be a massive step in that direction. They have the facilities now, if Stroll snr. is serious about this, he will give Newey carte blanche to do whatever is necessary. Newey isn't always right (Mclaren MP4-18), but his hit rate is pretty high!
Isnt it smarter then drop a little bit in constructors to egt more windtunnel time for next year to devlop 2026, i know you loose moey but that isnt a problem for top teams. Ferrari master plan in action.
Perhaps it's the consequences of their breaking the budget cap and getting limited development time finally catching up, though it could also be fractures in the team finally blowing open.
I simply don't believe can afford to change concept because that would require a new chassis while McLaren and Mercedes will carry them over and also the amount of performance upgrades Red bull so far has brought are too many to change concept 89 compared to 19 of Merc ( source FIA list of updated parts which are stated performance or different spec)
@@classicsportclassictiyl8547 Yup - 2013 pre-season testing in Jerez - they can the car, i think on day 01, with bits of the rear suspension upside down hahah. If you watch the 2013 season review on TH-cam - it's really good - then you'll see more about it.
The car isn't slow. I think the power unit issues has been the main problem this year. The easy answer is stick because 2026 needs to be there focus and not 2025.
If RB is already being caught up in the 3rd year of these reg, then this makes the fact that Merc stayed on top for 8 years even more amazing. Merc had an unprecedented 8 years of the last regs and they had the fastest car (over the season) the entire time. Previously RB and Ferrari had 4 and 5 years before regs were changed to stopped their dominance. Red Bull again only has 4 years with these regs. I think Merc lucked out and we won’t see that long of a run between reg changes again to at least change up the domination of one team if they can’t out right prevent it.
@@xGUANdeLUPEx did you read my whole post or just the first sentence and think I’m a Merc fanboy? They weren’t the only ones to spend that amount. It’s an even playing field with the spending cap, no one can out spend them now yet they seem to be catching up.
A lot of that advantage was engine related. Especially given that the advantage they had was essentially locked in by the token system for 2014,15 and 16 (the three most dominant years for Mercedes). It's quite telling that in 2017 (the first year following the drop in Engine development restrictions) Mercedes went from winning 90% of the races to only 60%.
During the current regulations, dirty air affects the suspension more than the aerodynamics? Given the so strict set up needed for the suspension, and how P1 driver always have a huge advantage.
It’s only this year of the regs the dirty air is such a problem. The first two people were praising the closer racing and how cars could follow. Alonso and others had great passes in corners. Max was easily able to make his way through the field when not in P1. 2022 Belgian GP Max started in 14th and still won. In ‘24 he could only get to 4th from 11th.
I have a theoretical question. Lets say the current car was doing much worse and/or the competitors doing much better. Could redbull take the last version of last years car and use that midway through the year? Can it be done or will the penalities be too much or ?. Just wondering. Thanks :)
I’m not convinced there’s anything wrong with this car. Other teams are just finally figuring things out and are closing the gap. The car is still great they’re just dealing with some adversity they haven’t experienced in 3 years.
The RB20 is far faster than the RB19. Literally a second or more per lap. They're also practically the fastest car still. What they NEED to fix is Perez
Have u even been watching f1??? The red bull is the 3rd fastest car now comfortably. The Mercedes, and most definitely the mclaren is the fastest car now. But red bull still have the fastest driver…. Max
It's called evolution. Every car is faster than last years' as evident from qualifying times. RB20 was fastest in the opening few races but now they are lagging behind.
Get rid of the high shoulders, and revert to the RB19 type inlets with an over bite. Probably going to lose the WCC to McLaren because of it. I feel like the RB20 and 21, are going to be the first years of Waché designs
Ah I must’ve forgot, where did u get ur aerodynamics degree from again, or don’t u have one?? I think a team of the best engineers and minds alike know a tad more about what makes the car work than you lil bro
@@TheMarkJoergensen But maybe Perez is just being the same Perez and it’s actually that the car isn’t there anymore and Perez can’t float on that upper hand it provided.
The elephant in the room here is that RB's penalties for cost cap violations have worked. You won't hear RB say it because it would rightly come across as whining about being cauthg in a violation. Competitors won't say it because most of them SCREAMED about how the sanctions weren't going to hurt RB at all. The question to be answered is, will those penalties continue to be a drag into 2025. We'll probably never know for sure, because there are other changes occurring at RB over the course of this season. I'll be shocked if Red Bull writes a whole new, clean sheet of paper concept for 2025.
without newey and a few other prominent figures they are going to be struggling more (and with toxic environment after horner scandal and fractured relationship between him and marko).
The thing is they are not to good a team anymore to make big mistakes. Now they have to very cocky guys leading the team who really don't offer anything in regards to technical knowledge who are also bickering over what to do. It's looking bleek. Max should abandon ship because his father was dead on in the beginning of the season.
Been some time the videos in the channel are just 10min of nothing, this video for example, it is a long introduction that never gets to the topic in the title.
I bet red bull wish they didn't take that engine penalty in spa. Clean air was such a big factor and max got pole. He most likely could have won that race.
I truly don't think it's the fastest car. Perez isn't as bad as everyone is saying. People forget he was the 4th best qualifier in 2020 in the Racing Point
For me I can't see them doing anything drastic the 2026 rules are far to important to try a totally different direction for next year car also having max is the big difference maker let's face it lando isn't on his level at the moment ferrari shooting themselves in the foot most season and Mercedes losing hamilton will be a massive loss in terms of a championship fight next year max will drag that cat to a championship then he'll be off to Mercedes in 2026
I don't care how it happens, I just want to see it happen - down with Red Bull, down with Max, the ultimate definition of a good talent that basically cannot win consistently if the car isn't significantly faster than it's competition. I think they're only keeping Checo after the summer break in an effort to *_purposely_* tank in the constructors championship and introduce F1 to the practice of purposely being bad to get more time to develop/be better next season. Max will probably win the WDC based on his early 2024 wins, Button and Brawn did this in 2009, an early lead is powerful, make no mistake. The WDC is what is marketable but the WCC is how dynasties are established at the cost of driver harmony. The fact no one else is picking up on this angle is flabbergasting. They're approaching 2026 without Newy, without a significant advantage, and developing their own engine for the first time ever. Red Bull is trying to tank now to win back dev time.
"down with Max, the ultimate definition of a good talent that basically cannot win consistently if the car isn't significantly faster than it's competition" It's clear you're either new to F1 or missed the 2021 season entirely, as in 2021, the Red Bull wasn't significantly faster than the Mercedes, yet Max consistently won races.
Just exactly what track would Red Bull still be able to find that perfect window to be the fastest car? I think the ship has sailed on the 'fastest in a tiny window' theory has already sailed. McLaren is fastest ánd the most versatile.
It shows in Austria and spa qualifying tho that when they ge the set up right. It can still be the best concept. Problem is it’s such a narrow window they’re chasing on the setup that only Newey knew how to tune
@@sammoore3687 no it doesnt do you even understand what it means to set up a car correctly?? I bet you have never karted or attempted to participate in the motor sports field without commentating such a terrible opionion. Keep yourself safe
This channel loves spreading out 30 seconds of info over 10 minutes
Some people love the sound of their own voice 😂😂😂
They all do. I gave up on Aldas because he was stretching a realistic 5-8-minute video into a 10-20-minute video every time. Now LawVS is doing the same as Aldas, and it's wearing thin too.
It's because it's lucrative: they can squeeze a lot more ads in.
@@mikespearwood3914 is Aldas still doing that? Man, I remember when he just started his videos just felt so stretched out but I feel like he improved that at some point and that was cool because I feel like he is a cool guy who worked hard to get to where he is, even though I wasn't a fan. I just don't watch him mostly because I can't stand the way he talks with the little breaks in the middle of a sentence.... where he sounds like he is always asking a question?
They have perfected the art. I honestly barely ever actually watch their videos and just come here for the comments, if you follow F1 and look at the timestamp titles you already know all you need about what they are going to say.
@DeathBlocks the problem is that the title is why we , I, you click on this stuff just to find out that it is only a general run on what we already know , click bait.
Every dominations always ends at one point
Toast to Red Bull downfall 🥂
Just like Mercedes
Edit: Ferrari and McLaren as well
@@Narkboi just like all dominant teams yes, including Mercedes
but merc had the longest domination of all
@@soapgaming8046 I thought that was Ferrari
Wonder what newey meant that the car has clearly one fault before a race was completed at the start of 2024
probably curbs
@@TheDailySnailyeah this year's car hates curbs.
Perez
@@nathaniellee9794 lmao
The number 11 decals are so heavy they add 15 tenths :0
And if RB somehow don't nail the new powertrains then they are done for
Think it's more likely they won't come out on top/share the top than not, but we'll see
Why would you think they will nail the new powertrains? Most likely they struggle at first given this is the first time they will have made an engine.
Done for, why? They didn’t nail the hybrid regs, far from it originally, and they weren’t done for.
@@woodduck2178it maybe the first time this company makes an engine, but not its people. They hired so many people from Merc that built those monster V6’s for the hybrid era and from other teams. The people there know how to design from scratch and build an engine. They may not nail it, but I’ll be more surprised if they struggle.
that applies to every team though.
Merc won 2014-2021 because of an insane power advantage.
the engine is everything.
it doesn't make sense to twist at this point, being 2026 a major update for car design, i think they should square up and stick to the car's design for an extra year
Just like Mercedes did on 2021
yep. It's not like they had a massive fall in performance. It makes no sense to change the concept with only one year left. They will probably stick to it, fix what they can and center around getting it right for the next cycle.
@@Ale-bj7ndnone of the teams changed their car much from 2020-2021 due to cost cap and regulation stuff, not just mercedes
@@The_Curious_Catlol
I'd be more worried about their powertrains.
From what people are saying they don't have much to worry about
@@LouSassol69ercould you please elaborate? Didn’t hear much about it yet
@@LouSassol69er from what ppl are saying they have a lot to worry about. Early noise from merc that they have found something once again. And we all remember 2014…
@@stuartedwards6223 well the Redbull engine project is looking good by all accounts. Ahead of schedule, staff are confident their engine will be among the best and people who've seen their power trains facility are impressed by what they see.
Also, this isn't 2014 again. Mercedes had their hand in hybrid tech years before anyone else was dabbling on the grid, hence why they had massive engine advantage. This time, everybody had advanced knowledge of the engine regs and even if they have advantage, won't be nearly as much as they did back then.
@@stuartedwards6223and that is why Sainz choose to go to Williams, ngl the Merc engine has been almost unstoppable since the start of the V6 era. Red Bull only won because of the better chassis and aero, but their engines aren't even as close to Merc or even Ferrari.
We are literally watching what the cost cap regs are designed to do, help the other teams catch the best car, and it’s somehow some big talking point
Still waiting for Haas or Williams to come to the top
I think that is very much a skewed image right now because there is no engine development
@@Ezdiessthey are not good enough. Their processes are inefficient, its not a money issue.
And after everyone caught up we pressed the reset button again, everytime
It's a bit talking point simply due to the fact it's changing what we're seeing as the new status quo with RB dominance.
I feel Red Bull going the same way as Williams back in 1997 , last year of Newey design etc ..... I don't think Wache will continue Adrian's excellent designs.
A little early to make that claim
Imagine if Red Bull never win a championship after this year...
So Red Bull = Newey?
@@cben86 Τhe Red Bull RB20 reminds me of the awkward in some races but fast (and personal favorite because of Villeneuve) Williams FW19. Adrian had signed with McLaren, with gardening leave exactly as today . Patrick Head (Technical Director) and Gavin Fisher (Chief Designer) struggled a lot in Williams ,especially in the following season of 1998, the absence of Newey was noticeable.
@@Asator95 It will be interesting to see where RedBull goes from here. Lots of talent beyond just Newey has recently left the team. It gives other people the opportunity to step up.
Don't forget the change in technical regs. surrounding differential braking per axle. The FIA didn't say who had been using it but the sudden slowing of the Red Bull would seem to be a clear indicator.
Tough times for Red Bull.
Their challenges are hitting them from every single direction right now
Major changes have just as good a chance to screw things up as doing nothing.
They need to optimize all portions of a race weekend including the car. Get the most out of setup, find a few things that can be tweaked or optimized and go from there.
With a new reg cycle coming up it isn't worth losing half a season on a new concept (See mercedes and McLaren and Ferrari when they changed their concepts.)
Instead of a concept change a 2nd driver change would have also helped. It would be hard to find someone who can actually regularly beat the drivers of the other 3 teams but at least giving them a harder time would help.
I just don't get why they have to keep changing the regulations, just as the cars are starting to come together. It's incredibly frustrating as a long time f1 fan (40+ years), to see this pattern repeat and repeat and repeat.
I agree. I feel like big regulation changes should be closer to 10 years, with adjustments made in that period. Not 5 years. 2014-2021 felt like a good amount, with the adjustment in 2017.
I feel like this one started just as an engine change, and I understand that some changes to the cars would be needed but this feels unnecessary.
Hard to ignore that the RB hasnt been improved or well understood enough since Newy left!
finally someone said it , you can even look back at the race dates and put them besides the dates of the drama and announcements coming out of the rbr team , chronologically .. it definitely looks like the team fell off after neweys announcement
I used to think this was kind of coincidence based more on the other teams improving and how Horner said Newey hasn't been the main contributor as much for a while. But then looking back at the way he said it and how he is talking about Wheatly now that he is leaving I'm starting to think that might have been a lie.
Or maybe not, and two of the highest ranking long standing team members really weren't all that important at all.
I think RB should just make a B spec RB20 where they try fix the flaws over the off season and go full send for 2026 aero and powertrain to keep themselves in winning or championship contention, otherwise they could have a very real chance of becoming upper midfielders when new rules come
this is a terrible idea are you even a fan of the sport
@@spaced5155 I am, also mclaren did that with the MP4/18 if i remember correctly, and that car was much worse than this one, the RB20 can be much quicker than every other car on the field when the setup is right, fixing the rear suspension and just running it next year would guarantee performance at minimal cost
@@El_Nano2005 😂 you're a pretender. And your McLaren comments are funny because you got them from this video 😂
On a side note if Max leaves for Merc what happens with Antonelli? Surely if Merc cant guarantee him a seat for 2025 then other teams will try to snatch him, maybe a coco pops team with 2 extra seats
Probably Russell is who they'd replace not Antonelli as crazy as that sounds that's most likely what will be the case if Max goes there.
@@DrizzydidI cannot imagine Russell performing like this and losing his seat to a kid struggling in f2
Reserve driver.
@@DerickChen if they do drop russell (insane but I won't put it past them) then where can he go? Aston Martin might be good with newey there
@@johnbenoy7532 it’s what I imagine as well. To replace Alonso although we know who really should be the one getting replaced in that scenario.
I have a weird feeling that next year where going to have a 5 team. Battle for constructors. Like everyone’s gotta bring their a game next year
one possible direction is to repeat what they did in 2021, the last year of the previous design spec F1 car... build a B-spec RB20 with most of the bugs from 2024 solved and save costs in 2025... to prepare for 2026 amd the new specs...
I feel most competitive teams will be doing this. It doesn’t make sense to try and reinvent a whole new car when everything about it will get tossed at the end of the season. Will probably lead to a lot of teams with a competitive car next year
In 2021 they had a big regulations change that helped their car so it made it easier
@@andrewmelton2686 2021 was the last year of the previous regulations. 2022 was the start of the new regulations that they're using currently.
@@mikespearwood3914 that is mostly true, there were some changes to floor in 2021 that mostly worked to handicap the mercedes and racing point (aston martin) cars bringing them more in line with their competition. I dont think that was the original intention of the changes, many people at the time thought it would actually hit RB the hardest, but thats how it played out.
The 2021 cars were actually slower than the 2020 cars its just that some cars didn't require as many modifications to get them running in spec. RB spent more development time ironing out the kinks of their 2020 car as opposed to any fundamental changes to their concept. Had Mercedes been able to simply run a straightforward B spec of their 2020 car we likely wouldnt have seen a title battle in 2021, or at least it wouldn't have played out as intensely as it did in reality.
@@kekitsjack5765 the original intention was tires based. Pirelli designed the tires of the time with the idea of 2020 being the last year that they would be used and with the aero improvements and it not being sensible for them to put in all that time and money to adjust the tires for just one season the floors were changed.
I can't remember who were thought to be hit the hardest beforehand, but I do remember someone from Mercedes (I think Toto) said they didn't expect that kind of impact at all.
Of course it's affecting the other teams too. What you call a phenomenon is the law of of diminishing returns. Nothing theoretical about it
I wish they had addressed the design change at the start of 2024 and it's impact and maybe if 2023 design choices were better.
2:30 That "stall" is not prevented by ant-stall. It's aerodynamic stall, in which desired airflow is disrupted or unattactched.
So basically, Redbull have sticked to their same formula that gave them success for 3 years it's just that other teams have now started to reach them
The curious thing is, if we compare this year's season with dozens of other seasons from different years, RB is still impressively dominant, but as a contrast with 2023, when Verstappen won an obscene amount of races, RB seems to failing miserably.
I think Redbull can keep squeezing out performance from the car, just need to make wise upgrades to make it better. The problem is they don’t have Newey to guide them in the proper direction and I believe that’s been showing recently. Their recent changes weren’t in line with Newey’s initial path set forward. So the car is slowly falling back into the pack. Hopefully they can turn it around and keep both drivers competitive……given Perez can actually drive the car closer to Max.
Their PowerTrains is more of a problem for Red Bull since their engine has never been yet Tested on an actual car. They'll struggle a lot since they'll be needing to use their own engine in 2025 and will not be focused on development due to the upcoming regulations in 2026 which is more priority of every engine developer.
I thought that for the development of the 2026 car all teams would have the same amount of CFD an windtunnel time. That would have been fair, I think.
Domination periods come and, inevitably go, not just in F1 but most team sports. So too shall the RB dominance end, and maybe in 2026 or maybe later, another team will find some trick to be dominant. We shall see.
Marko can't smooth egos like Dietrich. He let the Horner witch hunt get out of hand and he lets Jos run his mouth. Ver is critical of the car which can't be flattering to Newey. Somehow, Checo is protected which sends a very bad message to the rest of the team. This is how a once dominant team loses it's way.
Love your content. Definitely twist! I think their biggest challenge however, is their driver and personnel drama.
I think the bigger question is whether RB should stick with its current drivers lineup or change to a new one after the summer break.
How does the FIA regulate CFD aero modelling in practice? I’d be keen to see a video on that process, what kind of software and hardware resources they use, and how it’s all measured and reported. Like, if someone did a cheeky bit of homework on their gaming rig, then comes into work suggesting tweak a bit of bodywork, how would the FIA know?
It will be an interesting season next year as the 2025 car will be one without ANY Newey input, so I guess we will see just how much they miss him and if they miss the mark. I think most teams will take on the learnings of 2024 and try to either work them into or out of the 2025 car abd with only one season left on the current regulations, I don't think they will come out with a totally new concept.
We shall see.
"Red Bull won't make the same mistake, it's too good for that,"
Never say never. After all, part of the reason pundits at the time thought Lewis Hamilton had "sabotaged his career" by announcing his 2013 move to Mercedes from McLaren, was because it was felt that McLaren were considered too good to make mistakes with their car concept. Indeed, Hamilton said in a late 2012 Press conference to his McLaren replacement, Sergio Perez, "your car next year looks awesome, you'll be hard to beat next year."
Yet as this video shows, McLaren did get it spectacularly wrong, not really recovering until 2021
Imagine if RB had one of the best engineers in F1 to help sort out their issues. Let's call this person "Adrian". Adrian is top-notch with aero design, and they could help sort out the venturi effect with lowered ride height. I'd reckon that could help them significantly.
Oh well, a man can only dream!
Yep, Newey was the guy who designed Red Bull's all important suspension layout, Red Bull has suddenly hit some major ride quality issues after Adrian's departure... It doesn't take an Einstein to put one and one together.
Why did it feel that RBR was so bored with dominating in 2023 that they took on a challenge to make the Mercedes style work. I can see Red Bull copies alot of McLaren next year and will be a solid battle.
If the drivers championship gets tight come USGP or Mexico, they can kiss Verstappen goodbye
Being realistic, it won't - Verstappen is too consistent to let that happen, not to mention the huge 78 point gap he already has to Norris. People want so bad to see RBR decline but we said the same about Mercedes after 7-8 dominant years.
Max at Mercedes would be brilliant
@@dipsan95 Hamilton at Ferrari and Verstappen at Mercedes. Some time traveler has to kick some chairs XD
@@balazsmiklos9509verstappen to Aston isn't out the realms of possibility. Newey might be going there and they have just secured a Honda deal; two big factors that took max to his championships 🥲
Those 2026 cars look like GP2 cars
Lets see if the very clear ban on vector braking will have a continue effect on RBR.
shut up
Everybody knows that when it comes to asking questions about technical directions the drivers are the most important... At least it seems so based on the amount of technical questions the drivers gets and that this video cites. Who even needs a few years at university to understand fluid dynamics or mechanical engineering.
The British media under playing the fact the Mclaren is way faster than Red Bull is daft! Saying Red bull car is still the fastest car is crazy!
'It was almost inevitable when you get consistency of regulations you get convergence'
Yeah, Christian. Exactly that. That is what we need, fckin consistency so everyone can have a fighting chance. Okay maybe not Alpine and Sauber but my point stands.
And yet the FIA thought it wise to change so much after only 4 seasons.
They say the car is too stiff to ride curbs. So I'm guessing they need a new suspension geometry
I miss when the front wings were low to the ground. They look so funky now🥴
Literally the instant Newey left, they started struggling. This has happened so many times to other teams that it can’t be chalked up to coincidence.
Or maybe he just has a good sense of when to head for the door!
Upgrades and all the engineering work is planned month(s) in advance. Newey was working on upgrades to come out down the road when he left. The upgrades that came out when he left were his from well before that time. The fact they fell off immediately speaks to other issues, like the power struggle and Jos stirring the pot affecting the team.
@@seashackf1 Newey is normally around to troubleshoot his new packages and get them up to speed.
@@AlexConnor_ that was only for a short time. He’s not doing any dev work on the car anymore. He also isn’t attending every race. He did attend the British GP I think, but that was to sell the RB17 road car.
As amazing as Newey is, he is one of many engineers working for Red Bull. He is still working there and he has a great work ethic, he isn’t going to slack because he is leaving. Newey gets credited for lots of things he doesn’t do.
Correct me if I’m wrong but isn’t the RB concept similar to the Mercedes concept last year?…. It seems as though even though they have been way more successful that Mercedes they still face extremely similar issues as Mercedes did! Eg the set up window is almost on a knife edge! Tbh I’m surprised they don’t go back to the 2023 car as surely a car that was that dominant would be better! They wouldn’t be the first team to do this either…
Verstappen to Aston Martin is the only clever choice if he has to maintain his good F1 career with Newey also going there in 2025.
Newey with a huge budget team, Newer facilities, Dan fallows and Honda is gonna cook the competition.
Disagree - Lawrence Stroll will never let that team thrive as long as he has total control over everything and his son is still in a seat. Just because you sign big names does not guarantee competitiveness. Only way AMR will be taken seriously is if the Strolls both leave.
@@alexpeak16 He can send his son to the Valkyrie Le Mans project for 2025-26 if He is really in desperation and strong intention to fight for championships. I am sure he'll find a way he's a good business man and knows how to get returns on his investments
Don't forget the empty Mercedes seat that they're still willing to present to Verstappen on an golden platter, if only!
Newey going to Aston?
Ah yes the only good option is Aston Martin, the team that hasn’t brought a successful upgrade since the start of 2023….
I imagine they will keep on making minor adjustments and improvements they can carry over into next years car, but neither year will have anything revolutionary. For all the crisis talk the car is still very quick and dosent need a whole redesign. RB being a victim of their own success.
I'm curious is your channel started to getting strikes from FOM and removed from YT?
I think Red Bull is targeting 3rd place in the championship exactly because they want the additional testing budget.
That's why they kept Perez around.
How bout some sticky twisty bits ?
With Newey leaving I cannot see them going in a new direction. It would be a huge risk and potentially embarrassing
Mercedes was dominant for 8 years even with numerous regulation changes and tweaks that were clearly, without question, targeted directly at their car and drivers. Guess RB is the weaker team in that respect if they are so quickly overwhelmed.
Different times though. the token system made it almost impossible to catch up until it was finally scrapped. Mercedes had such a dominant engine that all they had to do was fine tune everything else.
Mercedes dominated in an era without a budget cap (Merc spent tens of millions more each season than anyone else), no ATR restrictions based on constructor standings and the most dominant PU ever in the back of their car while the only other serious team (Red Bull) literally had the most underpowered and unreliable PU from 14-18 and then a better but still underpowered Honda PU from 19-20.
In 2021 Honda finally almost caught up PU wise (still worse than the Merc PU but atieast close) and RB challenged for the title immediately.
Your whole commenr is absolutely delusional my guy.
@@Reaz399 sorry you’re still off the mark here. No cost cap means others could also spend, why didn’t they? And regulations after regulations were created specifically to slow down the Merc, many times, to the point that the FIA just said it out loud. The entire switch to ground effect cars vs downforce cars was EXPRESSLY designed to trip up Mercedes, this was an open admission that all the commentators remarked on forever. Calling people “delusional” doesn’t get you off the hook for a weak argument. Everyone had the same opportunities. And Merc customer teams did poorly during that era (Force India anyone?) so the PU was not the most dominant factor, it was driver lineup, aero, AND PU. Or why wasn’t it all Merc motors in the top 10?
@@MichaelEilers you are the fuckwit mate. Comepltely nutters. Merc is way ahead in terms of their development curve??!?
You should add your Patreon link to the video description boilerplate.
Their huge tyre deg advantage was suddenly wiped out. Surely something on that car has changed that we don't know about?
Isn't that more a case of Ferrari fixing their degradation problem and since McLaren and Mercedes improved it is less of a factor?
@@DeathBlocks I don't know, I'm just speculating. Their deg was so superior yet now McLaren's is better and Mercs is there or thereabouts along with Ferrari. For teams to gain outright pace on them _and_ overtake/match one of their greatest strength's in just a bunch of races seems very odd to me, more likely one side gained whilst the other side lost out and they met in the middle. Could be wrong though.
An Aston Martin F1 Team with Honda Power + Adrian Newey + Max Verstappen + Oscar Piastri = Dream Team
Before we all down play that let me mention Honda is a power house
Adrian Newey has past and present ties with Honda making his transition essentially much easier (familiar with Honda personnel, work ethic and most importantly the engine design)
Aston Martin has whispers in the paddock of speaking with Adrian
Adrian may see Aston as the right challenge before ending his career being a team not quite at the back needing an extra push to make it not impossible to fight at the front
A Championship win with Aston may be the cherry on top of Newey's career of proving he can make a team a winner.
Max may not like the performance of Ford + RedBull
Max is linked to want Adrian Newey
Max is familiar with Honda
Max new contract ends 2028 (can be sooner if exit clauses are there) in time when Aston has ironed out their issues and much improved after 1-2 years in new regulations.
Oscar is new now so will still be in F1 in 2026 and beyond
Oscar will be off McLaren contract by end of 2026 (can be sooner if exit clauses are there)
Oscar will be able to see a much improve Aston Martin for 2027 when Adrian's contribution will start to kick in.
Lance will still be in F1, so Piastri won't be there.
@@lankyboy90When will his deluded father get the fact Lance is not good enough for F1 anymore? It’s a cynical team with cynical ambitions. Newey going there is rumour mill and nothing more. Besides, Lawrence will never give him the technical freedom he thrives on. That team will never be taken seriously as long as the Strolls are around.
@@alexpeak16 I don't think he ever will. He wants his son to be a champion. To do that, he will need the best car. Getting Newey onboard will be a massive step in that direction. They have the facilities now, if Stroll snr. is serious about this, he will give Newey carte blanche to do whatever is necessary. Newey isn't always right (Mclaren MP4-18), but his hit rate is pretty high!
Isnt it smarter then drop a little bit in constructors to egt more windtunnel time for next year to devlop 2026, i know you loose moey but that isnt a problem for top teams. Ferrari master plan in action.
Perhaps it's the consequences of their breaking the budget cap and getting limited development time finally catching up, though it could also be fractures in the team finally blowing open.
Probably both. On top of that the chasing pack have finally caught up
not really, it is because lesser involvement of Adrian newey and toxic environment around rb camp.
Norris with a great car can't nail it and starts the reasons now . Goodness just give the team leader role to Oscar already
he has only had the car for like a week calm down fatty
The video isn't about Norris or who should be team leader at McLaren.
@@asterixdogmatix1073 didn't realise the topic of f1 discussion should be only limited to the topic of video...drat
It's coming up to September,. I'm sure they've already decided on the '25 car months ago.🤔🤔🤔
So you’re telling me the cost cap and testing restrictions are working.
I simply don't believe can afford to change concept because that would require a new chassis while McLaren and Mercedes will carry them over and also the amount of performance upgrades Red bull so far has brought are too many to change concept 89 compared to 19 of Merc ( source FIA list of updated parts which are stated performance or different spec)
Long May it continue, F1 suddenly interesting again, hopefully it continues in Holland 😁
Not to mention McLaren ran the car in testing (2013) with its rear-suspension upside down hahah
What 😮
@@classicsportclassictiyl8547 Yup - 2013 pre-season testing in Jerez - they can the car, i think on day 01, with bits of the rear suspension upside down hahah. If you watch the 2013 season review on TH-cam - it's really good - then you'll see more about it.
The car isn't slow. I think the power unit issues has been the main problem this year. The easy answer is stick because 2026 needs to be there focus and not 2025.
If RB is already being caught up in the 3rd year of these reg, then this makes the fact that Merc stayed on top for 8 years even more amazing. Merc had an unprecedented 8 years of the last regs and they had the fastest car (over the season) the entire time. Previously RB and Ferrari had 4 and 5 years before regs were changed to stopped their dominance. Red Bull again only has 4 years with these regs. I think Merc lucked out and we won’t see that long of a run between reg changes again to at least change up the domination of one team if they can’t out right prevent it.
Yeah, when you also consider they were throwing hundreds of millions of more dollars at development than their competitiors...🤦🏽
@@xGUANdeLUPExacting like red bull and Ferrari had spending caps lol
@@xGUANdeLUPEx did you read my whole post or just the first sentence and think I’m a Merc fanboy? They weren’t the only ones to spend that amount. It’s an even playing field with the spending cap, no one can out spend them now yet they seem to be catching up.
That’s what having a rocket ship engine does I guess…
A lot of that advantage was engine related. Especially given that the advantage they had was essentially locked in by the token system for 2014,15 and 16 (the three most dominant years for Mercedes). It's quite telling that in 2017 (the first year following the drop in Engine development restrictions) Mercedes went from winning 90% of the races to only 60%.
During the current regulations, dirty air affects the suspension more than the aerodynamics? Given the so strict set up needed for the suspension, and how P1 driver always have a huge advantage.
It’s only this year of the regs the dirty air is such a problem. The first two people were praising the closer racing and how cars could follow. Alonso and others had great passes in corners. Max was easily able to make his way through the field when not in P1. 2022 Belgian GP Max started in 14th and still won. In ‘24 he could only get to 4th from 11th.
@@seashackf1 yes there was huge difference between clean air and dirty air during this 2024 Belgian GP
@@edddavids no there is nothing to do
@@spaced5155 probably a very limeted active suspension
I have a theoretical question. Lets say the current car was doing much worse and/or the competitors doing much better. Could redbull take the last version of last years car and use that midway through the year? Can it be done or will the penalities be too much or ?. Just wondering. Thanks :)
No the regulations changed for the roll over hoop so all the 23 cars can't be run this year this change is why alpine were so over weight
I’m not convinced there’s anything wrong with this car. Other teams are just finally figuring things out and are closing the gap. The car is still great they’re just dealing with some adversity they haven’t experienced in 3 years.
First time without Newey's input on the new upgrades and they are stagnating. What do you think will happen next year? Midfield?
Breaking the budget cap to get a head start is no longer an advantage
Really felt they are stretching forthat 10 min mark
The RB20 is far faster than the RB19. Literally a second or more per lap. They're also practically the fastest car still. What they NEED to fix is Perez
Have u even been watching f1??? The red bull is the 3rd fastest car now comfortably. The Mercedes, and most definitely the mclaren is the fastest car now. But red bull still have the fastest driver…. Max
It's called evolution. Every car is faster than last years' as evident from qualifying times. RB20 was fastest in the opening few races but now they are lagging behind.
Get rid of the high shoulders, and revert to the RB19 type inlets with an over bite. Probably going to lose the WCC to McLaren because of it. I feel like the RB20 and 21, are going to be the first years of Waché designs
Ah I must’ve forgot, where did u get ur aerodynamics degree from again, or don’t u have one?? I think a team of the best engineers and minds alike know a tad more about what makes the car work than you lil bro
@@sammoore3687LMAO
Are we sure the RB is still the quickest or is it just Max behind the wheel?
Hard to tell, since Perez is being… well, Perez.
@@TheMarkJoergensen But maybe Perez is just being the same Perez and it’s actually that the car isn’t there anymore and Perez can’t float on that upper hand it provided.
Overall this season they are the fastest
Currently 2nd tho
@@Vettel_Ronaldo I’m good with this assessment. I’d say it flipped at Miami.
The 2023 car wasn't even that good, just everyone else messed up their cars and Max made it much better than it was.
Great video. Appreciate your organization. Top on the list for quality F1 content.
James Allison has made it work
What statistics are used for the pace graphics with the % of pace you guys insert in the videos ?
The elephant in the room here is that RB's penalties for cost cap violations have worked. You won't hear RB say it because it would rightly come across as whining about being cauthg in a violation. Competitors won't say it because most of them SCREAMED about how the sanctions weren't going to hurt RB at all. The question to be answered is, will those penalties continue to be a drag into 2025. We'll probably never know for sure, because there are other changes occurring at RB over the course of this season. I'll be shocked if Red Bull writes a whole new, clean sheet of paper concept for 2025.
Without losing out on the straights in SPA? The RBs were among the slowest cars on the straights in SPA. What is this guy talking about?
That 2012 chart shows what a monster of a driver Fernando Alonso is.
People on this channel aren't big fans of Alonso
I do hope McLaren can get 1 title this year maybe 2?
Changing formula of the car back is not the way to go
EXTEND REGs to 2028. Let em fight 2 more years.
Horner likes to run stiff too. But then Jos tried to grab it and lead him off the Milton Keynes campus.
Why aren't you talking about the Red Bull breaks?
Redbull probably never had the best ground effect car. That banned brake steering help with car rotation so they could afford to run lower downforce.
Max is waiting for Adrian Newly to sign with Aston Martin and Honda will pull Max over there in 2026.
without newey and a few other prominent figures they are going to be struggling more (and with toxic environment after horner scandal and fractured relationship between him and marko).
The thing is they are not to good a team anymore to make big mistakes. Now they have to very cocky guys leading the team who really don't offer anything in regards to technical knowledge who are also bickering over what to do. It's looking bleek. Max should abandon ship because his father was dead on in the beginning of the season.
Will the 2026 car have other design problems like the down force era that we just come from 🤔🤔
no it wont.??
Been some time the videos in the channel are just 10min of nothing, this video for example, it is a long introduction that never gets to the topic in the title.
I think Max may have been projecting when he said "Not good enough. Too sensitive. Too slow."
not good enough buddy.
you already commented this dumb bum
I bet red bull wish they didn't take that engine penalty in spa. Clean air was such a big factor and max got pole. He most likely could have won that race.
so the rules are actually working?
I truly don't think it's the fastest car. Perez isn't as bad as everyone is saying. People forget he was the 4th best qualifier in 2020 in the Racing Point
For me I can't see them doing anything drastic the 2026 rules are far to important to try a totally different direction for next year car also having max is the big difference maker let's face it lando isn't on his level at the moment ferrari shooting themselves in the foot most season and Mercedes losing hamilton will be a massive loss in terms of a championship fight next year max will drag that cat to a championship then he'll be off to Mercedes in 2026
Redbulls sudden vanish of performance is weird
Aaldert
I don't care how it happens, I just want to see it happen - down with Red Bull, down with Max, the ultimate definition of a good talent that basically cannot win consistently if the car isn't significantly faster than it's competition.
I think they're only keeping Checo after the summer break in an effort to *_purposely_* tank in the constructors championship and introduce F1 to the practice of purposely being bad to get more time to develop/be better next season. Max will probably win the WDC based on his early 2024 wins, Button and Brawn did this in 2009, an early lead is powerful, make no mistake. The WDC is what is marketable but the WCC is how dynasties are established at the cost of driver harmony. The fact no one else is picking up on this angle is flabbergasting. They're approaching 2026 without Newy, without a significant advantage, and developing their own engine for the first time ever. Red Bull is trying to tank now to win back dev time.
"down with Max, the ultimate definition of a good talent that basically cannot win consistently if the car isn't significantly faster than it's competition"
It's clear you're either new to F1 or missed the 2021 season entirely, as in 2021, the Red Bull wasn't significantly faster than the Mercedes, yet Max consistently won races.
Just exactly what track would Red Bull still be able to find that perfect window to be the fastest car? I think the ship has sailed on the 'fastest in a tiny window' theory has already sailed. McLaren is fastest ánd the most versatile.
It shows in Austria and spa qualifying tho that when they ge the set up right. It can still be the best concept. Problem is it’s such a narrow window they’re chasing on the setup that only Newey knew how to tune
@@sammoore3687 no it doesnt do you even understand what it means to set up a car correctly?? I bet you have never karted or attempted to participate in the motor sports field without commentating such a terrible opionion. Keep yourself safe
The Newey effect
They just need to put those illegal parts back on without getting caught.