ARE US mains DESTROYING WarThunder

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  • @S4t0r1
    @S4t0r1 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

    There is no way I made it onto your video pic💀💀💀

    • @McXerYT
      @McXerYT  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      lmaooooo

  • @Tizanikgoesboom322
    @Tizanikgoesboom322 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +16

    Us mains are ruining war thunder❌
    Wallet warriors are ruining war thunder✅
    This is my personal opinion i might be wrong
    I also dont get why gaijin listens to these crybabies

    • @qvad8078
      @qvad8078 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      because wallet warriors pay the most money

    • @Tizanikgoesboom322
      @Tizanikgoesboom322 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@qvad8078 because they are mostly new to the game and ruin it for evryone.

    • @judgement4934
      @judgement4934 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Nah US mains that cry on forums when their new meta jet can't go Mach 3 and carry 20 agms can share a heavy hit of the blame

  • @lollolbityt
    @lollolbityt 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    I started as a us main but after like rank six I realized that Americans just buy their way to top tier and I only bought the f5c when I got to rank six so it was just a little easier to get 7 and then 8. For ground on the other hand is just another story but most of the time they just don’t even use the right rounds but the us and Germany are really the both best military vehicles in game but it’s just the players that make them look bad.

    • @McXerYT
      @McXerYT  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yeah

    •  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @McXerYT same here dude completed us air then jumped to soviet right after but would i call my self a US main, fack no shit, i even grinded out Italian French tanks how's that for inconsistent lol

    • @kingghidorah8106
      @kingghidorah8106 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      i also bought the f-5c for 24 bucks but main reason was I kept getting missiled in Africa 1v1 and my beloved MiG19S didn't have flares.

  • @goota-wt
    @goota-wt วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    As a person who has top tier usa, russia, and isreal who also just finished getting the german eurofighter, its not just usa mains who complain about everything, its the all players who think the game should be like real life.
    War thunder players are just being greedy because they are too used to getting what they want when they complain, ever since the strike I’ve seen more greed in this game then ever before

  • @thegreenbolt2819
    @thegreenbolt2819 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I think there is some merit to US mains making War Thunder worse, as it is not just 10.0+ br aircraft that have been affected but also props from low tier to even early and mid-tier jets. When looking at props, you see that there is a bunch of US planes that are completely undertiered, such as the P-39N, F4U-1A (Japan's version is a higher BR despite both being the same aircraft), P-63A-5, P-51C, XP-50, P-51D-10, F4U-4, F8F-1 (A literal superprop is at such a low BR facing mid-WW2 aircraft), P-38K, F2G, P-51H (For years this prop has been said to be the best prop in the game, yet is somehow a lower BR than both the Spitfire mk 22, and Mk 24, even though the Mk 24 is its literal equal). This is not including undertiered jets below 10.0br like the P-59A, F84B, F80A, F89B, F89D, F2H, F104A, and F104C.
    Yes, each nation does have at least a few undertiered vehicles, however none of each nation gets as much undertiered vehicles as the US tech tree. We also have to remember that at one point, the US was literally the only nation in game to cause a Top Tier vehicle to become undertiered (F-15A), which is something that not even German mains were able to achieve with tanks. If at least a majority (especially problematic ones) of US air vehicles that I listed were properly balanced, this idea wouldn't be prevalent as at least there is evidence of balance, but the fact that many of these vehicles I've listed have been undertiered for years really does not help the argument for US.

  • @LokiV_WT
    @LokiV_WT 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    As someone who mains Germany my main complaint with USA and US mains is just how strong their air tech tree is, when 13.7 was first introduced with fox-3s Germany was stuck with the phantom at 13.3.
    Then came the F-15E (which is now 14.0) which Germany along with other nations had to fight with less powerful vehicles.
    USA overall has some of the best aircraft in the game for each respective gamemode and have been getting new top tier aircraft for almost every update over the last 2 years or so. That has resulted in US mains having this expectance that they will get a new plane every update and that their aircraft should always be strong (valid I know but still unfair for game balance).
    I personally found it funny watching US mains complaining about the Hornet not being added due to the points I mentioned above, Other nations desperately needed top tier aircraft that could actually counter the F-15s not to mention the update is literally called "Storm Warning" which fits the Typhoon and Rafale (which means gust or something) and not really for the Hornet.
    The argument for the Hornet being DOA is stupid. Firstly, USA already has plenty of top tier vehicles which are really strong for half a year or so Germany was stuck with the F-4F ICE, now that is DOA not to mention plenty of other vehicles such is the new British Tornado which got Brimstones. and secondly, the Hornet is popular enough to receive its own update which is named after it no?
    Just to clarify I'm going to say that I don't hate every US main, I'm just sick of the US mains that expect their nation to be the best because "That's what it's like IRL" or something similar. I hate the obnoxious morons who only care about themselves and not other nations.

  • @the_machine966
    @the_machine966 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Grom rocket would simply make event farming easy, because everyone in sb would bomb bases from 150km away, kinda same thing we saw when everyone used to fly f111 and use rockets to destroy bases. Gaijin doesn't want you to spend less time in the game. The more you play, the better chances that you will spend your money eventually

  • @rando-w5h
    @rando-w5h 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    Most ppl that complain about US mains complaining, are generally ussr mains, and they never stop complaining
    The curse of a popular nation
    The players of these nations will never stop complaining about eachother
    Sharing the spot for being the best nation in top tier and over all must be so dificult

    • @AmbeanWambulance
      @AmbeanWambulance 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I play most nations, US mains cause me mental retardation by how much they complain when most other techtrees have alot more to complain about compared to them

    • @judgement4934
      @judgement4934 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Oh definitely not. I see german mains sick of America, I see Swedish mains believe it or not fed up with America, it's hard not to be when all the shit America gets is either absurdly broken or the US mains CRY. Take the recently added F15e for example, I don't even think I need to explain that to you

    • @rando-w5h
      @rando-w5h 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@judgement4934 ofc every nation has its mains that complain, but overall its only really the big top 3
      and regarding the f15E, its just an f15 in the end anyways, just as easy to kill as before
      Then again, i play the jas39 like a rat so hah
      I just think its funny, ill say it again... Sharing the spot for being the best nation in top tier and over all must be so difficult

    • @peaaanuuutz
      @peaaanuuutz 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@judgement4934 Japan main here, and no, US players doesn't really bother me much. Sure their CAS are annoying, but I can counter them with my aircraft. I honestly think the Soviet players are the more annoying to fight against. Not only do they have good CAS, but they also have the best SPAA in the game. If I try countering their CAS with my F-15J, I get shot down by their Pantsir. It's dumb.

    • @judgement4934
      @judgement4934 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      @peaaanuuutz I respect your opinion but HIGHLY disagree on Russia having the best CAS. Especially with the recent F15e joining America's already broken air line up + the Eurofighter and Especially the Rafale. Having the pantsir is basically required to even try to stand a chance against them

  • @massadinni9454
    @massadinni9454 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I Play Italy and Britain and the amount of seethe and collisions from US mains is incredible. in arcade watch someone in an XP-55 go insane from being sniped with stealth belts. I've also noticed at the time of posting this the EF 2000 hasn't got nearly half the attention of popular WT-tubers lately for some reason

    • @McXerYT
      @McXerYT  19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      because everyone’s tired of top tier air

  • @merf5549
    @merf5549 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The way I see it is as follows:
    As of the past year, the US had an incredible advantage over the entire redside in simulator.
    Yet often they where the ones complaining in chat about how OP the R73 and R27ER where, while they have Amraams and 9Ms that are quite literally invisible in sim.
    Its a similiar situation to the Tiger horde in germany.
    Their Stuff is INCREDIBLY busted, yet most of them are too dogshit to utilize the stuff they have and then they complain about the enemy having an advantage or the Tiger/Pnather being unhistorical.
    The SU-27 recently turned out to be based on a prototype flight model of the T10 - this is literally a different aircraft and it seems like gaijin deliberatly decided to not give the SU-27 its real flight performance (even now its still not lining up with the charts)
    At the same time you have the F16A, which can pull 50° AOA despite being limited to 26° AOA irl.
    This just doesnt feel fair for anyone, the US got baby pampered so much in the last year that now that the EF and Rafale are to the game they are asking for shit like the F22 to counter those - this is just what happens when oyu favour one part of the community for so long and then start giving the other parts stuff too

  • @narcissus5970
    @narcissus5970 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I play several different nations, mostly US lately. I used to think that the F18 was needed, specially for Germany wich, at the time, had nothing but a Phantom with some amraams stacked to It, but now we got the eurofighter, so now I dont find the F18 as much needed as I used to

  • @cihataknc9507
    @cihataknc9507 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    They did complain about the grom1 a lot and I am pretty sure they will continue to do it if the other nations gets something good. Just wait until SU30SM and F2 comes to the game bet they will complain them about so much that these aircraft's radars are gonna be fucked up with the nerfs afterwards

    • @christopherchartier3017
      @christopherchartier3017 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Grom 1 kinda did deserve to get removed, Hunter showed it to be op for base grinding

    • @alphawolf1786
      @alphawolf1786 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      The main reason the grom was removed is because it made base bombing easy especially in sim and gaijin really does not like easy grinding it had nothing to do with US mains keep in mind more people were and still are complaining about the kh 38 more than they were with the grom 1

    • @cihataknc9507
      @cihataknc9507 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was not that op actually, you're gonna launch them from tens of kilometers away and it will take ages to reach target, in the meantime some dude can just steal it with no problem,if you are gonna get closer to base, then there's no need to carry groms other munitions can do the job too ,but look at the F15e , you can carry 20 gbu39 with extra 2 pylons without having to sacrifice any air to air missile, that's free 20 ground targets in sim, I know F15 can do it in real life too but what I'm trying to say is some fancy looking GPS guided rockets wouldn't ruin the game as much as they thought, they're crying about it because it's Russian believe me , they were and will complain about it forever along with pantsir and R27ER

  • @kurnass2000
    @kurnass2000 11 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The reason is because most USA mains are new players who think USA must be the best in game, (kind of is) and they think everything gets handed to them.
    For example when the f16 and mig29 were released, in a dogfight it was 50/50.
    The f16 had a g limiter which meant it couldn’t 1 circle a mig29 (obviously) and the mig29 had a good flight model, but when Americans kept on losing to the mig29 because of their lack of skill, they cried out Russian bias and the f16 got the g limiter removed, then mig29 got nuked and then it’s been America dominating ussr in every aspect, which is unrealistic (every aspect)

  • @danaolsongaming
    @danaolsongaming 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The easiest solution is just quarantining US ground matchmaking. Everyone wins if you think about it: the rest of us get to enjoy the game without having an auto-loss if the US is on your team, and US winrates go up to 50%.

  • @remirousselet6867
    @remirousselet6867 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    IMO the main issue with "US" is that it's full of people bringing A10s or using a F5Cs as bombers. This essentially means they are useless to the game and you're fighting with a handicap.

  • @abhinavchandra8314
    @abhinavchandra8314 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I thought that the GROMs were removed because they made it super easy to grind in air sim because you could launch right after take off and repeat with no threat of dying

    • @alphawolf1786
      @alphawolf1786 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Ya it was that he didn't fully check the facts there

    • @McXerYT
      @McXerYT  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      yeah that too

  • @Cyndertruly
    @Cyndertruly 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    last match there were 10 players lvl 16 or less playing the premium f-5. the first 5-10 minutes of the game were teammates shooting each other down or crashing. This left 3 people including me alive by the time we got to even see the enemy team. 14v14....... the enemy team had 2 f5 premium players but only one of them was new to the game.

  • @bugsy3209
    @bugsy3209 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Years ago during the beta days, folk like me were saying do NOT go past the cold war. now you all are seeing why

  • @kingghidorah8106
    @kingghidorah8106 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I started with Russia for a whole two years to get me a jet playing 1 hour daily, then i got to USA the 4th of July (out of pure coincidence, I'm Spanish) and in just a week with the same workflow I could get my first jet and a net of 2.5kd or more in the p51D30, the F8F-1B, the f4u 4b and the p51h. Even in the AM1 Mauler.
    Next up I tried Russia again and took me another 2 years to get the MiG21 CMT, while in parallel I managed to get the crusaders, the phantoms and the f-16s and finally the tomcats and f-15a.
    Yes, the r27er is propagandistically accurate but the rest? My god. USA is easy mode.
    Edit: forgot I had bought the f-5c on a 50 off sale but since it was rank 6 back then and not 8 I did not use it to grind the top tiers.

    • @sharkmods9042
      @sharkmods9042 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ¿No juegas terrestre? Literalmente jugar terrestre en USA es una tortura, puros 2A7, T80BVM, T-90M que aguantan un monton mientras el abrams no aguantan ninguna, no digo que deberia ser meta, pero literalmente es el tanque más facil de destruir del juego. Luego le disparas a un tanque ruso y solo le dañas el autocargador, también mensionar el spam de 2S38, T-80UD, K-50, Su-25K, Su-39, Su34( en su mayoria premium) y luego sacas un avión y hay un pansir esperandote. Pero claro, los jugadores de air rb no lo saben.

    • @kingghidorah8106
      @kingghidorah8106 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@sharkmods9042 no juego tankes porque soy fan de la aviación, y sé que EEUU en tanques es una tortura, más de lo que ya "tanques" por si solo es (3000 puntos por 10 bajas he llegado a ver), el bias ruso en tanques es real porque el pack de armada que más vende es el TURMS, de igual forma que en USA Air el f-4s (y en sus días el av8 y el f-5C) fueron los packs de aviones más vendidos.

  • @halifoxies2911
    @halifoxies2911 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    You can't honestly think its fair to give jets from the 90s and 2000s to every tree but the us. We still haven't gotten our jet from the 70s

    • @McXerYT
      @McXerYT  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      F-16C F-15E both not from the 70s lol

    • @pol_loq
      @pol_loq 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      they do that because other nations need a *fair* competitor to american planes

    • @aenodarr
      @aenodarr 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      F-15C is from 2006. That's when it got its HMD. US mains syndrome strikes again

  • @Tir33nts343
    @Tir33nts343 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Imagine blaming players when the developers are destroying the game openly

  • @jw1343
    @jw1343 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It's not US mains so much as an IRL to game balance differential, especially in context to high tier

  • @Ispentwaytoomuchtimeonwt
    @Ispentwaytoomuchtimeonwt 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would say, like everything, the truth is someone between.
    Whilst there are certain people on both sides, I think the US isn't a problem, but if the US gets high tier vehicles, other nations should get at least equivalents , and same vice versa. Also, there should be lvl restrictions for buying different rank premiums IMO.(also gaijin should decompress the ranks)

  • @SIP100Ka
    @SIP100Ka วันที่ผ่านมา

    Think about the F1C-200 getting in toptier against only the USA, SURPRISE it's 90% of F14's so we're all just getting killed before mid map, the F1C-200 don't seem to detect the Fakours when fired apon, tried every single type of radar but nothing detects it... So i'm stuck playing a game with 2 magic 2's and then restart, just to farm my french tree
    and i'm getting in top tier in 90% of games it's really annoying mostly because of the "shitty" missiles that the F1C has.

  • @KauppaKomissaari
    @KauppaKomissaari 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The grom would have been broken for airrb still would be it was removed because you can bomb a base right after takeoff

  • @WipeZZu
    @WipeZZu วันที่ผ่านมา

    No more new top tier premiums for US and it will come the best nation in WT

  • @charlieharris2864
    @charlieharris2864 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    I can understand why people hate U.S mains, I mean what was it there was a rumor going around that when the f-18 Hornet comes to the game it's going to go to the German tech tree and a lot of US mains, lost their shit and it's like bro calm down you will get your F18 eventually, and then for ground you got really bad US mains that think that the Abrams is the best thing ever created although they don't say that when they find out the 10.5 tiger, somehow managed to one shot them which I have actually managed to do a fair few times in a custom battle and it's always hilarious when they rage about it, but yet again, i think russian mains are far worse.

    • @SkySim9990
      @SkySim9990 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I honestly believe that a nation should get there own design first or at least at the same time as other nations. I thought it was stupid that Italy got the AV8B+ the same as it is for other nations vehicles. As for the abrams thing… in my opinion the abrams is the 3rd best take after the T90 and 2A7. However why the abrams sucks in game is because of the teammates you get when playing it. The tank is amazing just not your allies.

    • @abhinavchandra8314
      @abhinavchandra8314 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is like if the mig-29 originally came to the German tech tree and the Russian tech tree didn’t get access to it for a couple more months. The Russian player base would have also lost their minds and rightfully so. The nation that makes the vehicle shouldn’t be not the first nation to get the vehicle

    • @sneakysnek8416
      @sneakysnek8416 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@SkySim9990 the issues with the Abrams currently is the wrong internal modification placement and poor armor. M1 to M1A1 can be penned everywhere apart from the right side side turret cheek with most sabot rounds. The turret ring is also the most annoying thing ever and will always get disabled no matter where you got hit.

  • @TackshooterOG
    @TackshooterOG 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I mean, if the game was meant to be realistic no one would play non NATO aircraft. Why chose to be second best.

  • @fjvizuete
    @fjvizuete 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Is very sad, nobody play Rusia and dont have many premiun vehicle... Yes the problem in warthunder is USA and Germany. Come on men, this video is a Joke

  • @ionoverdrive8164
    @ionoverdrive8164 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No they removed the groms because of the nerfs on the tornado GR4s Brimstones

  • @wartheunderbro
    @wartheunderbro 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Alllllll I want is the Grom-1 and fixed FM for aircraft and missiles, please

  • @Wagamanee
    @Wagamanee 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    You are wrong in your first point bro. People abused it from take off space climbing and hitting bases…

  • @shtrumfulik8675
    @shtrumfulik8675 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is the reason why I started to slowly get into other nations(I allready have USA and USSR), like Great Britain, Italy, and eventually I'll get to China once the squadron points are enough to unlock the JF-17. But at the same time I was a bit mad when the rumour that the first F-18 will go to the Germans, like you just can't do that.

    • @zMage
      @zMage 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was already mentioned that a plane like the f18 would not go to an export country first

  • @TheCephalus
    @TheCephalus วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    What?? What is a US main?? Everyone I know plays multiple nations. This is not a game that locks you to a single faction

    • @theidiotictroublemaker2281
      @theidiotictroublemaker2281 วันที่ผ่านมา

      First time in war thunder?
      There are some over patriotic group which cry about on everything if things don't go thier way.

    • @TheCephalus
      @TheCephalus วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theidiotictroublemaker2281 yea, aka the vocal MINORITY, 100% safe to ignore

    • @theidiotictroublemaker2281
      @theidiotictroublemaker2281 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheCephalus lmao that minority is the one that made gaijin remove the grom1, nerf the mig29 fm along with su27.
      Then they cried about the mig23 outperforming the phantom and nerfed it to the ground.
      The mig23 used to be the best jet 11.7 with good radar and a good fox 1 but they nerfed the radar so bad it's currently useless in sim and arb.
      The r60m doesn't need any explanation tho.

    • @TheCephalus
      @TheCephalus วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@theidiotictroublemaker2281 or we are just blaming Gaijjins poor decisions on them. I don't think we need to give Gaijjin a scapegoat they can hide behind, and i don't think they listen to the community very much, so many things would be fixed if they actually took in feedback

    • @theidiotictroublemaker2281
      @theidiotictroublemaker2281 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheCephalus that's a bad way of saying "you are right but your opinion is entirely wrong even if it's right"
      Gaijin has the most profit from US mains and these are the maniacs that almost review bombed the game because the abrams didn't get the duapfsds.
      So if the blame is to be pointed the first people are the US mains then the devs.

  • @davidhume6275
    @davidhume6275 วันที่ผ่านมา

    No Gaijin is destroying war thunder. No HMD for console unless youre using pointer aim.. on controller. This game is for PC and is trash.

  • @rspectx
    @rspectx 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wish there was matches that only allowed regular ir missiles and no long range crap

    • @Tir33nts343
      @Tir33nts343 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Just play 9.0 Jesus

    • @rspectx
      @rspectx วันที่ผ่านมา

      @ nah I like the agile jets and fighting close range is for pros amateurs use fox 1 and 3

    • @Tir33nts343
      @Tir33nts343 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rspectx dude, 9.0 contains the best turn fighting jets

  • @carlomendoza6173
    @carlomendoza6173 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I Agree

  •  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    listen at the end of the day the only reason this game has been around longer than most of our dogs is because of the cash cows , its that simple . i got 6k hours and ive yet to see the US hate on the chat its mostly wallet boys who get the blunt of the hate .

    • @rando-w5h
      @rando-w5h 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I recently saw a lvl 14 playing with su33 complaining "america missile strong" hahahah