If your homie is in the wrong and you stand up for them, then you're being a jerk at best, a bully who ganged up on innocent at worst. The best you can do is share their pain.
It's weird but really funny how she flips from "it was on me to make things right because my homies needed me!" to "heehee hoohoo i was soo cooool you guys!!! woooooo!!!"
@@seisuke8650 thats normal in most of works with managers (except of you know what company), they literally are one of the closed person tho the talents and make a really good relationship in most cases Look at Holostars and all their Zoo managers, they love them a lot for all the hard work and dedication So i understand Kronii really well
@@NicoDoesLP yeah thats the "funny" thing That a lot of people really think that Kronii its fr a cool girl just for her Vtuber model and her really good voice But in reallity she its a really dork sweet girl with a social awkwardness instead of the cool aura And being real i really love the true adorkable Kronii
@@Fanimati0n it's just a joke within the community that kronii sometimes transforms to a karen to save the day. You could literally find several clips of hers doing that and the community makes a joke about it.
@d7618 Might be a joke but the whole idea of a Karen is to get what she want's without any good reason and being more disrespectful than the staff she deals with. Personally believe she is just an upstanding person with good morales well above the average person.
@@NarutoMagicCyclops Correct me if I'm wrong, but the nine-tails inside Naruto is a malevolent force, right? If so, I think harnessing the power of the unreasonable Karen for a good cause matches this scenario.
@@pravaris The nine-tails afaik was only malevolent due to being entrapped more than anything. However you look at Kronii's story though it didn't seem unreasonable, and very few people stand up for others regardless of their position, lesser or higher. Karens are typically unreasonable, hence the stigma against them.
Hololive lets their talents speak up against management if they think they're doing something wrong and can even talk about it on stream. Niji you can't even DM your managers. 💀
From what I have heard, Japanese aren't used to getting push back or back-talk. The senpai/kohai dynamic can be pretty toxic. And, that's why westerners are valued hires for being up front and honest
Real talk, only applies to westerners of a certain color of the skin. Japan isn't a utopia guys, if ID pulled this shit (except Reine) they'd be out of a job or ostracized lol. Any SEApeople here who have worked in Japan before will know. But nonetheless Kronii was justified in doing that, becauss sometimes the seniority system is unreasonable and is abused to push off accountability.
In certain circumstances, you can stand out your argument with them as long as 1. You're on the right side with a strong argument and a good cause. 2. Do not make any pointless arguments. 3. Said thank you after they accepted your points or arguments, then moved on. That was based on my own experiences as an ex SEA worker in a Japanese company. When I had to come back to my country, the senpai that had an argument with me invited me to a farewell party in his house. Then he told me that it is too bad that I must go back to my country, because they need more people like me in their company.
@OxygenC2 I'd say they'd still have a chance. Yes, JP lacks more respect for you the less you shine under the sun, but their kryptonite still is, from what I have seen, authority and confrontation from someone outside their playground. I have seen it in my country too.
@@OxygenC2 You... You do realize Kronii is Korean, right? She's even said before that she "blends in" in Japan, and people sometimes mistake her for Japanese because of her Asian appearance, IIRC. I think any of the talents at Cover could stand up for themselves or their managers like this and get away with it, easily. Even the Japanese talents could, if they wanted to. There are SO MANY stories from the talents of how well-run and open to criticism Cover's staff and management are, it feels weird to assume they'd quash this sort of openness. Not every talent agency in Japan is a black company.
I think it's important to note that after clearing up the misunderstanding. Kronii and Kroma gave gifts to the opposing party and got gifts back in return. So they smoothed things over.
I love the image of Kronii going full Mumma bear mode. Then, snapping back with a, "I'm one of the faces of this company, and if I can't work with you, that is going to be a really big problem for you."
kronii is such a brave woman. yes, i know that it's funny saying that but she truly is. i honestly wish i had the same amount of courage as her to stand up to peers like that.
this just shows how much respect the talents and managers have for each other in hololive, their staff improved so much after the past staff Issues (if you know, you know)
always next time. previous workplace, I had more freedom/clout. I'm a "new guy" now, but give me time and I'll tell my dickhead senpai to go f himself. professionally, of course!
Actually, you can. The true problem lies in practice, the first time will always be the hardest and the most awkward, but at least you get to learn and experience how the rubber meets the road.
So proud of my Oshi! She really stood up for Kroma and I'm sure she really appreciated! Also, she said that everything was resolved very quickly which tell you the healthy management environment in COVER! So glad HoloEN ended in this company... so happy to be a Hololive fan!
I keep giggling with Kronii the way she giggles whenever she giggles. GOD I'M SO- That aside, I'm happy that Kronii is the type of person to stand up for you. She's so gonna be a great wife.
Minor foreshadowing of how powerful Auntie Kronii will be in the future. Direct, composed, loyal, all wrapped in an ice cold bow. Bonus points for airing out the misunderstanding immediately instead of just dropping the warning.
Niji: I get bullied and my manager only makes it worse. Holo: I will fucking throw hands with you if you bully my manager. Don't you dare disrespect her!
1:39 If the people not looking you in the eyes were Japanese, it very likely might have been a sign of remorse, rather than being unwilling to have a conversation. In Japan, eye contact is seen as aggressive, and if they're contrite, aggression is the last thing they want to display in that moment. 1:45 Yeah. Japanese people laugh to try to diffuse tension in a situation, generally. They definitely knew they messed up as soon as Kronii got involved, and were probably trying to deescalate. 1:50 That's one of the worst things to ask a Japanese person; if they _are_ laughing to diffuse tension, they're going to take your response as a threat, and will probably get even more nervous. I would have taken the initial lack of eye contact as a sign of submission and contrition; Kronii really went in on these people.
Good points, but from Kronii's point of view, she took that as her not being taken seriously, it's a clash of culture / common sense. I'm glad they cleared up the misunderstanding & Kronii get to look cool in front of Kroma 😄
It's nice to see that Kronii has a good enough manager that she cares about her enough to stand up for her. If only we all had such good managers. The moral of the story is that you can Karen your way through the struggles of life and emerge victorious.
"The anger of a good Canadian is not a problem. They have too many rules." "Good Canadians don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many."
My elementary Japanese teacher was raised in Japan.I think one of the lessons about the culture is this: looking people in the eyes is a sign of aggression, so people tend to look at other things like your ear, or forehead.
Funny that luxiem badmouthing council back then and now one of the members is seen backstabbing a "friend" in public a stark contrast that a member of council the one luxiem made fun of is standing up for their friend
So this proved the comment i saw or heard (i forgot from where i got this but it's an interesting topic so it stuck to my mind) that hololive talents have more "power" than the staff (there's definitely balance). And i think the shareholders complained about this fact.
I think the important thing here is that the other party tried to disregard the matter as some minor thing, but Kronii could tell her manager was actually upset about it so she was like: _"No._ You don't get to downplay this. If this was a misunderstanding, that's okay, but somebody's feelings got hurt and we _are_ going to take that seriously."
Not making eye contact is considered respectful in most East Asian cultures, but I’m glad Kronii took some time to try and work out what was happening behind the scenes.
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"You disrespect her, you disrespect me."
And the Yakuza bloodline continues to show.
Oh boy. The deep lore, the plot thickens.
She’s 100% yakuza after this one
Or like Kaiba in Battle City: “If you insult my brother, you insult *me* and my company.”
Yakuza bloodline?
@@cielghoul2034you must be new?
Kronii : "If my manager doesn't get the respect she deserved, THING'S ARE GONNA GET CRAZY!"
*"Put some respect on my **-hound-** manager."* 962 defending her manager post Operation: Clockclimber.
reminds me of the time vesper talked about losing his temper.
I guess even holo has its own share of bad apples.
Crazy?!? I was crazy once…
@@TKT97054
They locked me in a room
@@knightmare3197 A rubber room
You can joke about it but yes, standing up for your homies IS cool 😎
Depends on the situation, if your homie is the one in the wrong, you're really another clown in the ring of the jester.
If my homie is the one in the wrong, i'd still stand up with them because you shouldn't let down your homies.
Kronii is a real one
@rjham8148 Real and true. But loyalty matters even then
If your homie is in the wrong and you stand up for them, then you're being a jerk at best, a bully who ganged up on innocent at worst. The best you can do is share their pain.
Kronii standing in front of a waiter telling them Mumei specifically asked for no pickles energy.
It's weird but really funny how she flips from "it was on me to make things right because my homies needed me!" to "heehee hoohoo i was soo cooool you guys!!! woooooo!!!"
Funny to see how much people look at Kronni like a cool girl but even she cant belive when she act like that lmao
She start to believe....
The fact that it doesn't come naturally makes it all the more remarkable, it shows how much she apreciates her manager
@@seisuke8650 thats normal in most of works with managers (except of you know what company), they literally are one of the closed person tho the talents and make a really good relationship in most cases
Look at Holostars and all their Zoo managers, they love them a lot for all the hard work and dedication
So i understand Kronii really well
She's socially awkward. This is pretty normal for her. That being said, she's really nice for doing that.
@@NicoDoesLP yeah thats the "funny" thing
That a lot of people really think that Kronii its fr a cool girl just for her Vtuber model and her really good voice
But in reallity she its a really dork sweet girl with a social awkwardness instead of the cool aura
And being real i really love the true adorkable Kronii
They just witnessed a fraction of the power of the 9 tailed karen sealed within kronii
Is it really being a Karen if she's *stopping* disrespect?
@@Fanimati0n it's just a joke within the community that kronii sometimes transforms to a karen to save the day. You could literally find several clips of hers doing that and the community makes a joke about it.
@d7618 Might be a joke but the whole idea of a Karen is to get what she want's without any good reason and being more disrespectful than the staff she deals with. Personally believe she is just an upstanding person with good morales well above the average person.
@@NarutoMagicCyclops Correct me if I'm wrong, but the nine-tails inside Naruto is a malevolent force, right? If so, I think harnessing the power of the unreasonable Karen for a good cause matches this scenario.
@@pravaris The nine-tails afaik was only malevolent due to being entrapped more than anything. However you look at Kronii's story though it didn't seem unreasonable, and very few people stand up for others regardless of their position, lesser or higher.
Karens are typically unreasonable, hence the stigma against them.
Hololive lets their talents speak up against management if they think they're doing something wrong and can even talk about it on stream. Niji you can't even DM your managers. 💀
What managers?
They could have chosen any color, but they stick to OnlyBlack
What managers lol
Niji has management?
@@pienpien8447 say what you want about alpha but niji is a shit show.
Imagine legitimately, in real life, personally, being on Kronii’s shitlist.
Don't threaten me with a good time.
King Kronii: "I won't even give you the TIME to regret opposing me!"
King Kronii beocming the Sin of Pride Escanor "I... get to decide that!"
Badass quote for fighting game.
I’ll CLOCK you all if you make her sad again
Stand Name:
{King Kronii}
Stand Master:
Ouro Kronii
From what I have heard, Japanese aren't used to getting push back or back-talk. The senpai/kohai dynamic can be pretty toxic. And, that's why westerners are valued hires for being up front and honest
Real talk, only applies to westerners of a certain color of the skin. Japan isn't a utopia guys, if ID pulled this shit (except Reine) they'd be out of a job or ostracized lol. Any SEApeople here who have worked in Japan before will know. But nonetheless Kronii was justified in doing that, becauss sometimes the seniority system is unreasonable and is abused to push off accountability.
In certain circumstances, you can stand out your argument with them as long as
1. You're on the right side with a strong argument and a good cause.
2. Do not make any pointless arguments.
3. Said thank you after they accepted your points or arguments, then moved on.
That was based on my own experiences as an ex SEA worker in a Japanese company.
When I had to come back to my country, the senpai that had an argument with me invited me to a farewell party in his house. Then he told me that it is too bad that I must go back to my country, because they need more people like me in their company.
@OxygenC2 I'd say they'd still have a chance. Yes, JP lacks more respect for you the less you shine under the sun, but their kryptonite still is, from what I have seen, authority and confrontation from someone outside their playground. I have seen it in my country too.
Yep. Japanese hire American (white) "no men" who tell their bosses their ideas are stupid since no one else can.
@@OxygenC2 You... You do realize Kronii is Korean, right? She's even said before that she "blends in" in Japan, and people sometimes mistake her for Japanese because of her Asian appearance, IIRC.
I think any of the talents at Cover could stand up for themselves or their managers like this and get away with it, easily. Even the Japanese talents could, if they wanted to. There are SO MANY stories from the talents of how well-run and open to criticism Cover's staff and management are, it feels weird to assume they'd quash this sort of openness. Not every talent agency in Japan is a black company.
I think it's important to note that after clearing up the misunderstanding. Kronii and Kroma gave gifts to the opposing party and got gifts back in return. So they smoothed things over.
Agree with Kronii. Sometimes to let things slide is alright, but when people took advantages of it, you gotta show them who's they're messing with
I love the image of Kronii going full Mumma bear mode. Then, snapping back with a, "I'm one of the faces of this company, and if I can't work with you, that is going to be a really big problem for you."
for real though, that is very cool of Kronii, happy to be a Kronie with a membership ♥
100/10 editing, also tons of respect to Kronii for clearing up the misunderstanding and standing up for her manager
kronii is such a brave woman. yes, i know that it's funny saying that but she truly is. i honestly wish i had the same amount of courage as her to stand up to peers like that.
This was my thought!! Even though I’m a westerner too I would struggle a LOT with a confrontation like this
waiting 24 hours later when management posts a termination notice... oh wait, wrong company
Kronii's Yakuza heritage peeking out there a little
this just shows how much respect the talents and managers have for each other in hololive, their staff improved so much after the past staff Issues (if you know, you know)
Wish I could be as cool as her when it matters.
always next time. previous workplace, I had more freedom/clout. I'm a "new guy" now, but give me time and I'll tell my dickhead senpai to go f himself. professionally, of course!
Actually, you can. The true problem lies in practice, the first time will always be the hardest and the most awkward, but at least you get to learn and experience how the rubber meets the road.
Hololive: "we love our managers so we stand up for them"
Nijisanji "you guys have managers?"
i love this clock
honestly kronii is one of the coolest people out there
I feel like we need some gangsteronii art of this with "u disrespect my manager, you disrespect me"
So proud of my Oshi! She really stood up for Kroma and I'm sure she really appreciated! Also, she said that everything was resolved very quickly which tell you the healthy management environment in COVER! So glad HoloEN ended in this company... so happy to be a Hololive fan!
Kronii, a maior protetora
"Look at me in the eyes" that's some grown man shit respect to kronii
I knew kronii had that chad in her all along 🗿🔥
I liked the little animations there, very lively!
Of course, Kronii fangirling to Kronii for being cool. Just as the lore stated
Sasuga clock lady.
Management had better fear the day her Japanese gets better. Her translator was probably using a lot more polite speech than Kronii would've herself.
this needs to be animated, I NEED IT, I NEED KRONII STANCIN UP AND QUASHING THE BEEF ANIMATED
You drop this queen 👑
Based Kronii
" How my talent fought for me and now she's my oshii"
A manga about Kronii being 😎.
I keep giggling with Kronii the way she giggles whenever she giggles.
GOD I'M SO-
That aside, I'm happy that Kronii is the type of person to stand up for you. She's so gonna be a great wife.
Kronii releasing her ChadKronii
Kronii: I am the one who talks
"I am the one who clocks"
I like to pretend kronni rested her hand on this dudes shoulder like Bane
"No one cared who I was 'til I put on the ribbon."
"If I pull that off, will you die?"
"It would be extremely painful... for you."
I've gotta listen to her MAFIA cover again
Kronii is so cool, I kneel
This is the talent-manager wholesomeness we want, but don't deserve.
Damn a talent defending their Manager couldn't be Niji.
...a talent being able to get a hold of their management in the first place...* ftfy
The way she was so proud of herself 😂
'Talent have more voice '
Canadian. The last time they got mad, the Whitehouse burn.
She summoned her inner Yakuza bloodline at that moment 😮
Kronii being an absolute chad and sticking up for her Mane-chan. You love to see it. :D
I love your editing skill and style, keep it up man
Kronii fangirling over herself just won't ever get old 😂
Minor foreshadowing of how powerful Auntie Kronii will be in the future. Direct, composed, loyal, all wrapped in an ice cold bow. Bonus points for airing out the misunderstanding immediately instead of just dropping the warning.
This is the same woman who grabbed a random manager and took her to karaoke to blow off some steam.
Dammit Kroni!! You're so cool!! ❤❤ 😍
This is what happens when a company understands what's making the money
Now THATS what I call a girl boss
Kroni is awesome!
The sorting algorithm thinking effect always makes me chuckle
You don't often see someone be a Karen to do good. Hell yeah, Kronii.
SHE IS SO COOL ❤
Niji: I get bullied and my manager only makes it worse.
Holo: I will fucking throw hands with you if you bully my manager. Don't you dare disrespect her!
Man, amazing how the story they tell about their managers make it seems like the managers are like guardians to them.
The difference between Cover and AnyColor is STARK
Based Kronii, standing up for her manager!
Big clock energy.
I like how Kronii can be a cool-looking badass one moment, and then turn into a cute dork in the next
Kronii: talents have power
A certain black company: IMPOSSIBLE!
She is so mommy it hurts
Nice edits!!! I can't focus on what Kronii is saying because of how smooth the video editing is. Very fascinating.
Keep it up!!!
Top tier editing (gigaronii saves the day)
1:39 If the people not looking you in the eyes were Japanese, it very likely might have been a sign of remorse, rather than being unwilling to have a conversation. In Japan, eye contact is seen as aggressive, and if they're contrite, aggression is the last thing they want to display in that moment.
1:45 Yeah. Japanese people laugh to try to diffuse tension in a situation, generally. They definitely knew they messed up as soon as Kronii got involved, and were probably trying to deescalate.
1:50 That's one of the worst things to ask a Japanese person; if they _are_ laughing to diffuse tension, they're going to take your response as a threat, and will probably get even more nervous. I would have taken the initial lack of eye contact as a sign of submission and contrition; Kronii really went in on these people.
Goddamn. Imagine you say something awkward/kinda disrespectful to someone & the God of time goes in on you like you insulted her mother.
Good points, but from Kronii's point of view, she took that as her not being taken seriously, it's a clash of culture / common sense. I'm glad they cleared up the misunderstanding & Kronii get to look cool in front of Kroma 😄
Gangstaronii
Kronii's a good kid.
It's nice to see that Kronii has a good enough manager that she cares about her enough to stand up for her. If only we all had such good managers.
The moral of the story is that you can Karen your way through the struggles of life and emerge victorious.
Kronii got that ride or die in her
Way to go Kronii!
"The anger of a good Canadian is not a problem. They have too many rules." "Good Canadians don't need rules. Today is not the day to find out why I have so many."
"Disrespect my manager and I will see to it that your parents NEVER get married."
That's a W friend right there.
*stands up* HELL YEAH, GET'EM KRONII!!!
Clock woman activated sorting alogrithm. Great edit. 😂
I don't know if it was intentional but the cut "girlboss" at the end made me laugh way more than if it wasn't cut out
My elementary Japanese teacher was raised in Japan.I think one of the lessons about the culture is this: looking people in the eyes is a sign of aggression, so people tend to look at other things like your ear, or forehead.
This is you touch my fella it is payback time
Kronii with the leadership qualities for the team, damn good one too if you make the lackies nervous
Funny that luxiem badmouthing council back then and now one of the members is seen backstabbing a "friend" in public a stark contrast that a member of council the one luxiem made fun of is standing up for their friend
kronii being the MC
Oh god, these girls know what they are doing right now, with those management insights all of a sudden dropping one after other :))
Having a poker face with eye contact when talking to Kronni, noted.
So this proved the comment i saw or heard (i forgot from where i got this but it's an interesting topic so it stuck to my mind) that hololive talents have more "power" than the staff (there's definitely balance). And i think the shareholders complained about this fact.
When Kronii says that she's cool
SHE MEAN IT😎
I think the important thing here is that the other party tried to disregard the matter as some minor thing, but Kronii could tell her manager was actually upset about it so she was like: _"No._ You don't get to downplay this. If this was a misunderstanding, that's okay, but somebody's feelings got hurt and we _are_ going to take that seriously."
Not making eye contact is considered respectful in most East Asian cultures, but I’m glad Kronii took some time to try and work out what was happening behind the scenes.
The Kronifather?
"You disrespect her, you disrespect me, capiche?"
Good to see someone flexing power for good, for once.
Respect 🔥
Calm collected and in control then Zany and cute, these are the rare gap moeMents.
"You disrespect my manager and you disrespect me."
Kronii is a certified Whiterun Guard.
Ah the classic Canadian anger at someone disrespecting someone.
for being a canadian she sure gives off big american energy
Most American's can't even stand up for what is right and allow kids to be murdered in classrooms so 🤷♀
Love the edits, +1 sub.
You mess with the clock, you gonna get glock