Rob Hubbard - Nemesis the Warlock [C64]

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  • @michaeljarcher
    @michaeljarcher 10 ปีที่แล้ว +506

    I'm lucky to be one of the first people to hear this wonderful tune. Then i might be at an advantage, because I was the programmer of the game. I think there was more than one version, was a while ago. I need to check the source code to check.. Rob Indeed did wonders with the SID chip. And the CPU raster time to have during game play was not possible with the sprite multiplexor.

    • @alsatiancousin2905
      @alsatiancousin2905 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I bought this game when it was released on cassette, it received maximum reviews on a Finnish gaming magazine, 10 10 10 graphics coding music... it was smooth like anything Stavtos Fasoulas did, congratulations - you did amazing job.

    • @KrK007
      @KrK007 10 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Thank you for bringing me hours of enjoyment as a kid. My friend had this game. We played the crap out of it.
      I will always love the C-64. So ahead of it's time in every way.

    • @michaeljarcher
      @michaeljarcher 10 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      Very happy to hear this. I just looked at the source code, and I can't find if I made a cheat, seems was not. plus it was 1987 so memory little flakey even with the code in front unsure of it!!!

    • @anaformiaabalatusdispositi4769
      @anaformiaabalatusdispositi4769 9 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Michael Archer
      I was a 64 programmer too.
      I lived how the cadavers would pile up on each other. I take it they were characters?

    • @wailer27
      @wailer27 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Looks like we have a room full of people who all happen to be programmers and who all just happen to have worked on this game... What are the chances of that?

  • @Fisren
    @Fisren 14 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    You have no idea how long time i have been searching for this, i recorded this onto a tape and was listening to it over and over again, my parents were pulling thier hairs out. Still thinks its a cool tune.

    • @krzysztofklimek9340
      @krzysztofklimek9340 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I was also doing the same bro ! Greetings from Poland

    • @jujoensu
      @jujoensu ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It was, it is and it will be cool tune. Greetings from Finland.

  • @Terbie36
    @Terbie36 12 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Rob Hubbard=Pure talent. His tunes shapened my music taste. I believe his compositions will linger in my brain even when I will be 80 and unable to remember my own name. Influential+unforgettable. Commando, International Karate, Nemesis the Warlock and many others... This guy is a genius.

  • @vapourmile
    @vapourmile 14 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I admire how this composer would create musical narratives evocative of the games narrative. This piece combines powerfulness, relentlessness and sadness.

    • @darkzones3d612
      @darkzones3d612 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeees thats rhe reason i love it my life

  • @ArttuTheCat
    @ArttuTheCat ปีที่แล้ว +8

    A legendary 2000AD comic book tie-in on the Commodore 64 😺👍🕹️.
    And an excellent music 🎵🎶 from
    Rob Hubbard 😺👍.

  • @dominickeefe2454
    @dominickeefe2454 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    This is an amazing 8 bit evocation of the mad, dour universe of Nemesis. Could not have been more perfect with later technology.

  • @leodesouza2855
    @leodesouza2855 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    a masterpiece from an era when thecnology was not ready yet to reproduce so mcuh awesomeness

  • @alsatiancousin2905
    @alsatiancousin2905 13 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    This was one of the few games EVER to score full 10 / 10 / 10 (game, graphics, sound) in a legendary computer magazine Mikrobitti in Finland back in the day of release. Another one I remember reaching that achievement was Bionic Commando.. and Amiga's Cadaver. Oh well, anyways!

  • @sanicyouth6540
    @sanicyouth6540 9 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I never played any Commodore 64 games nor did I grow up in the 80's (I was born in 1994) but I like the music. If you like electronic music in general this might be up your alley.

    • @robintst
      @robintst 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +In lulz we trust 2015 I think it's just kind of an infectious sound that transcends time. The SID Chip inside the C64 was very unique and still is used today in electronic music. We had a Commodore 128 back in the 80s so I grew up on this sound.

    • @scottbreon9448
      @scottbreon9448 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      If this is your thing check out the HVSC (high voltage SID collection) It has every C64 SID tune ever made pretty much, and more added with every update (about every six months or so) because people are still making tunes for the C64 via demos and whatnot) Just make sure you have a player that's capable of playing SID tunes (or download one of the many SID players on the HVSC website if you want to play SUBTUNES as many game sids have subtunes.

    • @marlonmarquez4798
      @marlonmarquez4798 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      idk it sounds like progressive rock or metal to me man. at least thats why i like the song.

  • @Seantendo
    @Seantendo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I feel like Hubbard's music is the only reason that many of these games are remembered at all. Same goes for a few of his contemporaries.

    • @mixchief
      @mixchief 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Oh you're leaving out so many others :) Late ubercomposer, Mr Daglish? T. Follin? Galway, Steve Turner (AlleyKat), Etc. Etc.

    • @stewsretroreviews
      @stewsretroreviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have to agree with you here, sure if the Speccy or Amstrad have the sid chip, there would have been a lot more classic games around haha

    • @dhepermana
      @dhepermana ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@mixchief and Jochen Hippel aka Mad Max

  • @AlkisGD
    @AlkisGD 12 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Despite there being no nostalgia filter on the song for me, I still love it. It's simply amazing!

  • @MarkTDKKnight
    @MarkTDKKnight 7 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    One of my all time favourite C64 tracks.

  • @Ahtisham
    @Ahtisham 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:29 this part🔥

  • @KasranFox
    @KasranFox 8 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    The distant, far-off year of 2000 A.D.
    I wonder what it'll be like.

    • @jaded151
      @jaded151 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm sure it will have nothing to do with N-Sync

    • @hakanstorsater5090
      @hakanstorsater5090 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      And the comic magazine 2000 A.D. is still with us… It hasn't even changed its name...

    • @GenericProtagonist118
      @GenericProtagonist118 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hopefully better then the 41st millennium

  • @IdiotinGlans
    @IdiotinGlans 13 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Note - play this song when you're reading comics about Nemesis, it fits very well.

  • @Terbie36
    @Terbie36 10 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    9 people are minions of Torquemeda.

    • @Nikolapoleon
      @Nikolapoleon 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      "Let's face it; you can't Torquemeda anything!"

    • @MislavCupek
      @MislavCupek 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      An underrated comment. Lol

    • @TheSteveTheDragon
      @TheSteveTheDragon 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      BE PURE! BE VIGILANT! BEHAVE!

  • @The2realistic
    @The2realistic 14 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    One of the most underrated C64 games, IMO.

    • @BDF-
      @BDF- ปีที่แล้ว

      I wasn't as interested in the actual game than I was in the zax. 😀

  • @TheSmokingUnicorn
    @TheSmokingUnicorn 14 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Best. Theme. Ever.
    Thanks to this theme, I'm now a Nemesis the Warlock fan.

  • @BDF-
    @BDF- ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Back "in the day", I recorded this and other Rob Hubbbard zax to cassettte tape so I could listen to them while plying the streets in and near downtown Seattle WA. USA where I lived at the time. Great shit!!! 😀

    • @jC-kc4si
      @jC-kc4si 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Was this game released in the states? I never saw any ads for it in comic books or other magazines.

  • @c137DeadHead
    @c137DeadHead 16 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Amazing tune. Considering HOW Rob Hubbard created his songs on the C64, it's just incredible. Recommend every fan of his music to do some research about the man himself! Pure genious! :)

    • @hanskiiiid
      @hanskiiiid 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same here, I bought this game for Hubbard's music.

  • @sasfcps
    @sasfcps 15 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    really dark tune, i love this. one of my favourite game tunes

  • @PathForger_
    @PathForger_ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    It's too late to apologize...
    Now you cannot unhear it. You're welcome. ^_~

  • @AlarusOne
    @AlarusOne 13 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Powerful, evocative music as befits the legacy of Nemesis. Great stuff! :)

  • @grinreaperdutchphil
    @grinreaperdutchphil 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I know this music from my childhood.I still love it and I am still amazed at the level of inspiration and skill that went into creating this astonishing music. In addition, anyone who was seriously programming the CMB64 in the assembly language acknowledges the almost magical abilities of the machine.I started programming it in 87 when I was 16 and all the time I'd come across new ways of pushing the envelope of this great machine through demos and games. It was a truly exciting time in my life.

  • @Alianger
    @Alianger 11 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    this track just keeps on giving!

  • @vapourmile
    @vapourmile 13 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I was going to comment on this tune, having juts blundered into it, only to discover I already did. This time I was gong to say how there's a thread running through this piece combining the ideas of both what a colossal responsibility and what an immense tragedy it is to be a creature that just kills all its life. There's no real good and evil to it, it's just it's purpose. There's also refrain which suggests this isn't such a bad life when you think about it. A truly beautiful piece of music.

  • @77thFromChrist
    @77thFromChrist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I Remember playing this game on and off back in the 80s. I never quite figured out how to proceed from one level to the next, but i liked the animations which where actually good at the time, and the dark setting. These elaborate HUDs/UIs were rare back then aswell, which gave it some unique flavor. I never waited around long enough on the title screen to appreciate this song though. Started the game within 10 secs, everytime. I am glad i found this now, the song was so much better than i imagined, once you get into it. Epic nostalgic memory for me, this game.

  • @snowstillfalls
    @snowstillfalls 14 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great Hubbard classic, some moments of genius sprinkled throughout

  • @blethigg9320
    @blethigg9320 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Be Pure!
    Be Vigilant!
    Behave!!

  • @shellstu1149
    @shellstu1149 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    One of my all-time favourites.

  • @MEGAGODULTRA
    @MEGAGODULTRA 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Thx for the game and more importantly, some music CODEX

  • @maximus4765
    @maximus4765 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Black hole sun, won't you come...

  • @identitatemignotum3238
    @identitatemignotum3238 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Conocí esta obra de arte por un instalador que contenía un remix de esta canción, luego de escucharla decidí buscar la original y uff escuchar esto en la época del C64 en todo su esplendor debió ser un orgasmo para los oídos

    • @AzryayixGyarz
      @AzryayixGyarz 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Seguro,yo conocí primero está y aunque no soy de su época ,hay algo en ella que me encanta y siempre la escucho.

  • @SengirNightblade
    @SengirNightblade 15 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This , along with Spellbound are my favourite Rob Hubbard tunes.
    Got both tunes on my iPod along with multiple remixes.

  • @CozyCoffeeLofi
    @CozyCoffeeLofi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love these sounds - glad to hear thrm till this day❤

  • @pikeflowed
    @pikeflowed 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Another iconic SID chip BANGER ! Courtesy of the dude Rob Hubbard !

  • @R0MMAH
    @R0MMAH 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Masterpiece

  • @IWasaTeenageTeenWolf
    @IWasaTeenageTeenWolf 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    James Rolfe the Nintendo Nerd has got to review this game.

  • @thelordmadson
    @thelordmadson 9 ปีที่แล้ว +146

    Codex installer xD

    • @NihilanthNonServiam
      @NihilanthNonServiam 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +thelordmadson I'm TROLFBI, I have a digital search warrant under the probable cause that you're downloading pirated games ileggaly.

    • @thelordmadson
      @thelordmadson 9 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      +Nihilanth Non Serviam YOU SHALL NEVER CATCH ME!!!! woop woop woop woop *runs away like zoidberg

    • @greenbookcollection3989
      @greenbookcollection3989 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh dam reading this and with the music is intense. The hunt is on, is he still freely roaming this cybernetic sea or has his luck ran out.

    • @thelordmadson
      @thelordmadson 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      And from over the horizon he can hear the faint sounds "woop woop woop woop"

    • @greenbookcollection3989
      @greenbookcollection3989 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Omg, he came back, lol

  • @blueninion
    @blueninion 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Genius.

  • @Swordfishstick
    @Swordfishstick 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember loading up this game just to listen to the theme music. Still sounds great.
    C64 was a great little machine, and Rob Hubbard ruled it's audioscape!

  • @stewsretroreviews
    @stewsretroreviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice music again by Rob Hubbard, genius!

  • @kickx87
    @kickx87 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just heard Shriekback's 'Nemesis' on SomaFM again and every time I am reminded of this game.

  • @scaleonkhan183
    @scaleonkhan183 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:31 5:19 YOOOOO

  • @grendelum
    @grendelum 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    1:01 This bit is in a *_LOT_* keygens from over the years...

  • @BT-km7nl
    @BT-km7nl 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Rob Hubbard, Jeroen Tel and Chris Huelsback

  • @herr_weltschaft
    @herr_weltschaft 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a great C64 conversion of (in parts) the soundtrack from "The Long Good Friday". :)

  • @johankaewberg8162
    @johankaewberg8162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hero. And I mean Rob.

  • @greedo_rodian
    @greedo_rodian 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    if i play the game in the 80's, you only hear about 20 seconds then you start the game. one time i left the room and hear the rest of the song from the distance...epic - i love it!!

  • @olivierjonckheere5382
    @olivierjonckheere5382 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Toute la musique de mon adolescence, trop bons souvenirs et toujours un Rob Hubbard incomparable ^^

  • @CandidDate
    @CandidDate 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have a slightly sped up version on cassette somewhere. Got it through some old school hackers of 64 music. Great tune!

  • @theNikki1
    @theNikki1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    anyway to loop this song in youtube?

  • @8bitbubsy
    @8bitbubsy 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I could loop this forever... Just marvellous!

  • @alsatiancousin2905
    @alsatiancousin2905 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Music was programmed into the game after the main code was poked in, and depending on how much was left they really had to go out of their way to make it fit. But you are right about the positions, I think Hubbard was mostly left with 10K at most :)

  • @djs909
    @djs909 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think I want this to be played on my funeral.

  • @FayyZ_Dox
    @FayyZ_Dox 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone came from the Codex 2015 installer?

  • @IrionDaRonin
    @IrionDaRonin 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Epic and nostalgic track.
    The game was hard as balls. I never could beat the 4 or 5 stage, i couldn't find the damned exit lol.

  • @RetroDeathReviews666
    @RetroDeathReviews666 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    for some weird reason this song makes me feel sad.
    But at the same time I adore it.

  • @colinthomson7518
    @colinthomson7518 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AMAZING Composition

  • @EricFleming621
    @EricFleming621 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    used to love this game

  • @auritone
    @auritone 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Remember loading the game back in the day simply to hear the music.
    SID still awesome!

  • @EgilHansen777
    @EgilHansen777 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All hail the mighty SID!! and ALL HAIL SIR ROB HUBBARD!!!

  • @Z-Mat
    @Z-Mat 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    C64 still alive! Musik zum träumen...

  • @jaycee1980
    @jaycee1980 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It sounds even more epic with a bit of EQ, filter and reverb :)

  • @ultrahenk
    @ultrahenk 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Holy hell. I have no idea if the game itself is any good... but this tune alone makes it worth buying. Even almost 25 years on.

  • @bernatk
    @bernatk 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Written by Aliens. No human being can compose such a masterpiece! ^^

  • @licantropia1512
    @licantropia1512 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rob Hubbard ....un genio del SID per c64

  • @TheBrokenBMW
    @TheBrokenBMW 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The sound of the zombies being blasted by the heavy gun was truly awesome!

  • @Romagnasuprema
    @Romagnasuprema 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    peyser you are my hero! more than 20 years that i did'nt hear this masterpiece!

  • @PeyserCommodore
    @PeyserCommodore  16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    No problem! Glad you like it.

  • @RMJ1984
    @RMJ1984 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this music. But man i was this part 6:01 was longer its so soothing and relaxing.

    • @Revacus
      @Revacus 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes. These parts are my favorite of the song, like at 2:50, also. They just sound really cool.

    • @RMJ1984
      @RMJ1984 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly :) good one there as well. Its just amazing.

  • @KaitainCPS
    @KaitainCPS 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome tune. One of Hubbard's best, alongside One Man AHD, Monty on the Run, Zoids and Master of Magic.

  • @SpearM3064
    @SpearM3064 13 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    @brewcakes Not even 1.44 megs. As I recall, this game took less than half of a Commodore 1541 diskette... which only held 170 kb. That was back in the days when the focus was on gameplay, not on "Ooh, look at what I can do with a $400 video card, 4 gigs of RAM, and 15 gigs of hard drive space." Also, publishers were more willing to experiment with a new franchise instead of throwing out sequel after sequel.

  • @Thegamingground
    @Thegamingground 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was born In 1984, but not before now. I have started to play C64 and amiga games. I sure have missed out alot on the good stuff! but at least Im back on the right track now ;)

  • @nd_AlexS
    @nd_AlexS 16 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thx for sharing !

  • @dhepermana
    @dhepermana ปีที่แล้ว

    Chiptune era is an endless vein of hidden gems.

  • @GroovyDominoes
    @GroovyDominoes 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    put it on speed 1.25

    • @nakedmolerat43
      @nakedmolerat43 9 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      +Groovy Dominoes put it on speed: normal

    • @5p3ctr3x7
      @5p3ctr3x7 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Groovy Dominoes 1.25 better

    • @prltqdf9
      @prltqdf9 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nonsense.

    • @thelordmadson
      @thelordmadson 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try 0.25 it'll freak you out as F*CK xD

    • @edfsedf5502
      @edfsedf5502 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lol. Sound doesn't play at 0.25

  • @stunthumb
    @stunthumb 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Such an awesome track, no big surprise coming from RH but to me this is especially melodic and well put together. Never actually played the game though, will rectify that the next time I'm wondering what to play.

  • @roteazalee
    @roteazalee 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome track!

  • @McLarenMercedes
    @McLarenMercedes 16 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I downloaded an excellent remix by I don't know who, but anyway it captured the whole essence of "Nemesis the Warlock"
    Great music for driving, exercising or whatever

  • @vidura
    @vidura 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There is soul inside this music masterpiece. You can't find it in todays game music.

    • @f1nstergrazz464
      @f1nstergrazz464 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      vidura in installation fallout 4 by rg freedom you will hear that music

  • @crosboid
    @crosboid 14 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    6:00 is one of my fave parts. Awesome final sequence.

    • @swordblaster2596
      @swordblaster2596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      4:20 onwards is where it turns into an absolute banger IMO.

    • @scaleonkhan183
      @scaleonkhan183 ปีที่แล้ว

      Absolutely

  • @woges5093
    @woges5093 ปีที่แล้ว

    A classic off, and I feel the origin of the Unicorn Medley for Transformers the Movie.

  • @kanob2257
    @kanob2257 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Could be his best work

  • @PeterBadrick
    @PeterBadrick 12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is my all time favourite C64 music. Shame the game was utter tripe. I used to load this just to listen to the music. Now I can load the sid file directly on my real C64 using the 1541U+ :-) Happy days,

  • @MinscFromBaldursGate92
    @MinscFromBaldursGate92 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WARHAMMER Fantasy Battles + Judge Dredd + Nemesis The Warlock= WARHAMMER 40,000

  • @Archimedes75009
    @Archimedes75009 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AWESOME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Gigastorm123
    @Gigastorm123 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    nemesis.... what a badass....

  • @mrsethcorbin
    @mrsethcorbin 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rob Hubbard is a legend!!!!

  • @TitanFind
    @TitanFind 14 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really nice modern remix if you google for
    nemesis the warlock o2
    ...and just follow the links.
    Starts off sounding like it's going to be too soft and underplayed, but then kicks it up a gear for a blistering second half. I liked it so much I put it on my iPod!

  • @Zwabber69
    @Zwabber69 14 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wauw, I loved this game (and musik) when I was 15 :-)

  • @zoddstyxxx7091
    @zoddstyxxx7091 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They didn't even know how EPIC this would sound in like 30 or mb more years

  • @Da1000K
    @Da1000K 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    With 3 channels, he made magic!

  • @brewcakes
    @brewcakes 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    when the music is better than the game, the talent is obvious

  • @ragingherpes
    @ragingherpes 16 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best tunes from a computer game ever

  • @rokus666
    @rokus666 15 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing music !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @wikdclown198
    @wikdclown198 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great track.

  • @darayavaus4566
    @darayavaus4566 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn't know the founder of scientology was doing music for c64 as well

  • @MrMoon-hy6pn
    @MrMoon-hy6pn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find something so fascinating about commodore 64 music, even though i'm not from that time

  • @rideronthewhitehorse
    @rideronthewhitehorse 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    lol haha I hear that ...you crack me up man...I remember talking like that "hard as balls" haha that is some funny stuff....the C64 rocks all the way home brother! :)