I'm honestly surprised our family didn't own one of these. We were _always_ on the wrong side of history. We had a Betamax, and when they stopped releasing movies for it, we switched to Laserdisc. My father had an 8-track player both in our home and in his car, and when they stopped releasing albums for it, he bought a reel-to-reel, convinced it was the next big thing. All my friends had an Atari 2600, while we had an Intellivision. And when I asked for a home computer, I got a Coleco Adam.
Did you parents buy AMC cars as well? Mine did. I feel we lived tech lives very similar. Betamax? yes but when it came for computers we got a VIC20. And instead of Atari we had odyssey 2. Ugh.
Laserdisc was the best format for home cinema, at least until DVD came out, and even that's debatable. Getting that was a great idea! You get the best image quality available during the 80s and 90s, the Laserdisc versions were often uncensored, and often had great extra features you certainly wouldn't get on video tape. Fuck VHS, it's garbage in every way. It's only advantage is it got nearly every release. But Laserdisc usually did too, even if it might take a while. I'm saying that and I never owned a Laserdisc player, I just know my technology! Intellivision (BAY FIFTY-TWO BAAWMEEERR!) hardware was well advanced of the 2600s. The 2600 was particularly shit, the hardware designed for Pong and Combat. It got... versions... of other games for a few years but they were really squeezed in there, and it showed. They looked fucking AWFUL and gameplay was usually very limited. Also the Colecovision had hardware not far away from arcade machines of the time. Again I had none of these machines. Like most Europeans I had home computers instead, and spent time playing games designed for computers, rather than endless arcade conversions and ripoffs like the American consoles got. The Coleco Adam yep I'll give you. It had the techology I mentioned, similar to arcade hardware of the time of the Colecovision, but that was years previous. By the time of the Adam it was lacking. Also the dual inbuilt tape drives were bizarre and pointless, and built-in meant you lost your whole computer when they went wrong. Rather than other computers that had separate external tape drives. Indeed the ZX Spectrum, and many other British computers, used a tape player you would supply yourself, any tape player would do. Much easier and more flexible, cheaper too. Even if you bought a tape player just for it, you could use that to listen to music later, me and my sisters did. So yeah you get a few points for the Adam. Which also weirdly came with a built-in printer. Which the power supply for the whole machine was built into! So you couldn't do without it! And printers are expensive, which made the whole thing more expensive! Yep a stupid machine. But I'd have liked them if they eventually crashed the prices on them. Not living in the USA, and not being an adult at that time, I didn't have the opportunity. Missing out on the 2600 and VHS though? You missed a bullet!
As an Ilustrator, i really would love an alternative timeline where instead of casette tapes we used this type of format, and the pages had amezing artwork, or carring a literal folder with all your music on it.
@@deusexaethera yeah but even could manufacture this, wich dont know how expensive would be considering, who even still works with magnetic tape now days, very few people has this device and would requiore manufacture that too. is a cool concept but dont think would be that easy to do now days, besides make it a nitch funny thing
I feel this would be a great prop for a horror movie or something like that, a group of policeman are investigating a cold case at an abandoned school and information left by the kids is discovered by playing these.
4:32 is PURE cinema nightmare fuel, and would go perfectly in a found footage film set in an abandoned 1970s era Oklahoma elementary school that was mysteriously condemned after an … unknown incident.
Or a horror game where you need to sort the pages out and play them? Like the typical horrifying notes in a game, but you get them in the recorder and they play secret recodings? That'd be cool
"To convert this raw score of 48, to IQ score, you will now how to change to sound page... *SHUFFLESHUUFFLE OH CRAP OH DAMN WHERE IS IT OH MAN IM MESSING THIS UP* number ssss... eight!" Nailed it.
The target audience - the teachers tasked with calculating the IQ scores of children - was considered to be more comfortable receiving instructions as low-fidelity audio recordings on expensive proprietary media, instead of in the form of printed words. This has a few implications, -all- _some_ of which are depressing.
@@PhirePhlame ...you know, using the instructions as a form of "tech demo" _would_ also make sense - so the teachers using this technology with their students would have more first-hand knowledge of it. You make a fair point - previous comment updated.
HD Vinyl? 30-minute sides that sound as good as 18-minute sides? Screw that! I got sheets of paper with ferric oxide recorded on obsolete school equipment - and I got all the hottest hits!
Apparently, the supply of old recording formats will never dry up. The glue on the media must have been great, and the density low cause the DO sound surprisingly good.
It's really hard to understand what you mean. Disk format on what level? Standard formating on what level? Media level - physical recording and encoding?, Data structures like block and error checksums? Or something else? What is represented via interface is different than what you can really read from the media itself and it is translated by controller on drives for those two standards. This is the same for IDE and for SCSI. Main controller is build on drives. What you call today a controller, is only in fact a very simple interconnect interface between drive and computer. IDE/SCSI defines only data communication between drive and computer. No internal low level data structures or physical recording system on medium or raw access to it are defined in those standards. Only real off-drive controllers remaining in those days are floppy drive controllers in PCs and a few memory readers can allow you to use bypass mode to get to individual memory cells on flash cards. You need really dumb access to media like you had in case of RLL and MFM controllers where controller itself was on separate card. Some drives can allow access to raw data or some raw data on media via special manufacture specific commands (undocumented commands or in case of SCSI also pages). But this is drive specific and it is not in IDE/SCSI standard. You can often also access those data via diagnostic interfaces present on drive PCBs or connecting directly to low level reading/writing part but you have to know how to decode data. But again. There is not standard defining specific structure of storage data on media - again very specific to each drive - even between series and sometimes also not easy to get if you are not a data recovery company.
I would consider myself unlucky if I'd never seen scissortails flying through the Ozarks, but I have. I might be unlucky if I couldn't find everything from warehouse raves to livestock shows in one town, but I can. I'd also consider myself unlucky if Ricoh didn't make me an admin and give me my own office...but they did. So, I might have to disagree with you. Come and visit the Big Friendly anytime, and I'll take you out for some cheese fondue.
I need one of these, such a neat concept. Actually I can see younger kids having fun with it if you tell them "hey you can record your voice on this piece of paper"
The "draw a man" test was an integral part of IQ tests for young children in the 1950's at least, and was scored similarly with respect to age. It made up only a part of the complete IQ test which included questions in text form.
Shermanbay interesting factoid. The draw a man draw a woman was part of a psych evaluation test that I had to take when I went to prison in the early 2000’s. They would then call you in and ask you questions like “why did you draw breast on the woman?” Or something similar and then look at you while you asked making a weird face while they scribbled something down on a paper. They would not answer any questions either just ask you questions about the answers you gave on the test. Just because I’m sure someone will ask. I went to prison for drugs.
There is an even older technology that used paper to store music. Ever seen a Player Piano? Those used a large spool of paper with holes punched into it that told the pianos which keys to press. One could say this is the same idea with just a little electronic technology added in.
Back when I was crazily buying up every weird recording format I could find, one of these popped up on eBay. The listing confirms what I'm sure Mat has experienced - that the world is full of very strange people. The listing included a picture of the owner, dressed in leather bits, holding the Sound Page towards a similarly dressed woman on her knees, licking the Sound Page. I did grit my teeth and buy the unit, and cleaned it very thoroughly when it arrived. Now mine was listed as a piece of office equipment, and included a plastic cover with white piping that made it look very 70's office chic. It included some blank pages. I never dreamed they were used as educational devices.
nelo7149 - Canal Oficial No editing of comments if one is using a mobile device (or at least with Apple, have not tried an Android with TH-cam). But the OPs comment certainly made me laugh, there are some real characters in this world. Edit: I take that back, Google finally added an edit feature on iOS.
This device is the reverse of the Tefifon! The Tefifon is a cassette that plays with a phonograph needle, and this is essentially a turntable that uses a magnetic head! Ha! Crazy.
Techmoan not only has a Tefi but keeps it hooked up to his HiFi. It's one of the formats he actually liked enough to manage to integrate into the already complicated setup.
Pretty amazing! When I read the title, I was thinking it was going to read a 1-bit digital audio signal from black and white dots off the paper! Sound quality is pretty good!
Matthew Colville The schools I went to didn't use VHS machines until the 90's, so they were content with their 16mm film projectors and filmstrip thingys for quite a while, and the occasional 3/4" U-Matic VTR machine stuck on a TV cart that might be rolled into the classroom!
I walked into my kids' elementary school classroom last year, and was amazed to see the same brown cassette player I used in elementary school 30 years earlier.
I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THESE! I believe my class had 2 of these in the 90s. We did different learning groups where for the first 10 or 20 minutes your group learned using this, then after you switch out and the next group takes your spot and you do one of the other learning group activities. It was kind of fun to learn this way in the 90s.
Oklahoma's legislature doesn't buy things for education, they have the districts do it instead. This probably never saw a single school room, much less students. It was probably given out for free as advertising.
@@absalomdraconis Yeah, a lot schools have one smartboard to show off to potential donors how high tech their school is and that they should invest in education. But teachers and students are not allowed to use that one smartboard.
@@rubiconnn Some of us adventurous kids found it rolled into a corner and wanted to play with it, after the teacher gave us the OK we hooked it up to the projector and computer. Calibrating was a breeze. Played with it for like 30 minutes and had our fill of excitement for the class period.
@@squidiskool What gets me is how the people giving instructions on how to give IQ tests keep stumbling over words, misreading their script, and genuinely don't seem to care at all.
@@spugintrntl "... you will now have to change to sound page [CLATTER] number s-- eight." He shuffled around to check which page it was and STILL nearly got it wrong.
I've seen a couple of those machines, but never knew what they were. Had I been born a couple years later, I might have had the chance to use one, but at age 7 in '74, I was already reading at a higher level than the material that was presented in this presentation. As a result, the teacher had us reading short stories, and not just learning words. However, in high school (I think tenth grade) on the last day of the year, we were digging around the for some distraction from the bordom of nothing to do when one of the guys found a portable open reel tape deck. The teacher wasn't sure if it still worked as he hadn't used it in fifteen years, but set it up, anyway. It did work, and we all took turns recording with it, and playing it back. It just goes to show that when students start digging around, they will find old equipment, and try it out.
As a 78-year old with a lifetime interest in audio/visual history, I thought I'd seen, read or heard about everything. Delighted to discover from this video that I haven't. Many thanks for sharing this. (As proof of my aforementioned passion, each time I attempt to declare my present age, my laptop's predictive text function writes 78rpm )
Probably the best tech channel on TH-cam, your intro and outro music is so comforting and techy I really need to hear it everyday. Thanks for all your effort; stay well and keep posting.
There's something creepy about tje recordings. The sentences also seem to be of different audio quality, some sound like the woman recorded it in a tunnel, there's just so much echo.
+Techmoan Let me start by saying you will never run out of "classic" items for your videos. What is "state of the art" today, is obsolete tomorrow. I want you also say I enjoy your videos. They're nostalgic and I love seeing the "classic" technology. Keep producing these great videos. Thank you.
I was feeling quite down - until I watched this episode! This put a smile on my face - great episode TM, thank you for cheering me up :-) Keep up the good work!
Southern USA > rest of USA in everyway. The south in my opinion is less racist than most major northern cities. I'm not "white" and I've been everywhere in USA and experienced the opposite of what I've been told in media. The south east is so special, especially my home in the blue ridge mountains. Of course you have bad actors but the south gets a bad wrap because of their history, which is deserved but if people would move on things would be alot better. Most of the people who won't accept change are outside looking in, the people who embrace the culture are the ones who are defining the new south. Today you can be invited into a multicultural cookout as a complete stranger and have the best time of your life in the south. Hospitality is in our blood, so is lard ;-)
The thing that really makes me sad is that this is tech from the 70's; (which was considered niche at the time) that one can infer still hadn't been completely phased out of the curriculum by the mid 90's. And this was well before shit like "No Child Left Behind" was enacted.
@@cptnwcky : No, Oklahoma doesn't actually have a centralised education system. It's far more likely that this was given out for free as advertising. Chances are that this never saw a classroom.
It's incredible that this runs with the original capacitors and that the white plastic hasn't yellowed like on a Commodore VIC-20 or other plastic devices from that era.
@@alphamone Look up capacitor plague? For what? The shitty Wikipedia article where actual facts are constantly getting deleted (which has been ongoing for the past 10+ years) and the same old bullshit stories repeated because mainstream media has mentioned that drivel and therefore counts as a reliable source? No thanks lol
Mat, you sir need a peak viewing slot on BBC2 every week. Your vids are better than 99% of other factual programmes on mainstream TV. Bet they've approached you already!?
PurpleTT99 -Agreed. Some sort of retro version of the Gadget Show would be a huge hit. But no, just more endless bloody X-Factor and Bake Off crap. No wonder no-one under the age of 40 bothers with the telly anymore.
Thank you, I have been looking for this device for yrs. I would tell my friends about this device for yrs. My parents brought this to teach me how to read and spell. I was able to skip several grades. My parents swore by it. OH! My Goodness thank you very much. Several of my friends thought I was lying until I found your channel and of course I share your channel to my FB and Twitter accounts. My sister had Show and Tell.
I wonder why they covered the entire back side of the sheet with the oxide instead of just the circle in the middle where the play head is at, maybe its just simpler to cover the entire side than the specific area that is played.
this is so fascinating i can't even explain it. as a person who spent enough time fantasizing about any which way audio recording could happen, this completes a dream.
@@enricosanchez894 And many of the people were in the forties, and now would be in their nineties. Or older. Their lives have passed, whether they too have yet.
Those are amazingly good quality, the first time I’ve ever seen such a recording format…. You can just imagine that lady’s voice being used in an Avalanches track.
I'd love a full rip of the home recorded stuff, just as an archive of almost lost media. Seems neat to preserve something no one ever thought would be heard again.
That teachers voice is creepy, along with the use of heavy reverb. I'm surprised they were still being used into the mid 90's, but then again that's Oklahoma schools.
I just saw one of these at the goodwill, wish I got a better look at it! tried asking my parents if they knew what it was and even they had no idea, glad I found this vid to help me out :D
I love these videos, I grew up around an old tv repair shop that was choc full of strange old tech. Loved exploring it as a kid, love watching your videos as an adult. Thank you Techmoan.
Oh! I’ve used a device similar to this. It was called a language master. Instead of full sheets, it recorded on these long rectangular cards. One side had a word and a sentence in Braille and a single strip of magnetic tape on the other side. Unlike your device, you slid the card into the device on one side and it moved through the machine and out the other side. Recording time was about fifteen seconds and there were no buttons other than the record button. It had an internal speaker as well as a headphone jack. I used one while I was learning to read back in nineteen eighty five. Nice trip down memory lane! I would’ve loved an entire page of recorded paper.
I swear I was subscribed to this channel years ago, but it appears I was not. That has been corrected. This channel is one of my favorites. I was afraid Techmoan would run out of audio tech to review, but after this intro I'm not worried.
Just because I don't believe in a flat Earth doesn't mean I'm cool with disrespecting these people for no reason, in the free world you have the right to believe what ever you want even if it's rather unusual. I think North Korea is looking to fill their ranks with thought Nazis...
Someones a bit sensitive. I always assumed in order to "bully" someone you'd have to make some kind of insulting remark, not point out a certain group might get mad at a certain part of a video. But what do I know...I'm a moron that believes things like science.
Apparently, sir, you need to look up the word "bullying" in the dictionary. I didn't call them any names, I didn't abuse them or cast aspersions on their intellectual level or education. Paraphrasing Moynihan, flat earthers are entitled to their own opinions, but they're not entitled to their own facts.
speaking of ol' benny boy, i saw in my notifications he liked a post of mine, i want to litteraly scream, Also, he's fully aware of the audience and fans of both, hell benny boy enjoys techmoan aswell
Every sailor, or anyone who's watched ships on the horizon, knew the Earth is round. The flat Earth theory was not as popular as myth would have it. _Everybody_ didn't believe in a flat Earth.
The circumference of the Earth was even measured by *Eratosthenes* (276-194 B.C.) using a method not unlike a sundial: driving two sticks into the ground, miles apart from each other, when measured at the same time of day cast different shadows. His measurements suggested the Earth's circumference should be 25,000 miles, less than 100 miles from today's accepted figure.
Proctor Sample oh fuck up you moron. Stop trying to be smarter than you are! History goes back only 5k years lol? Nope History dates back to the start of everything numb nuts! Do you mean written history? Wtf has that got to do with anything? The recording simply states that at some point people would have thought the earth was flat because it looked flat until one day they realised it was round. This is a fact champ. It's not open for debate. Oh btw why don't you enlighten us on the age of humanity since you know more than anyone alive? Not that it's relevant to this. Humanity is older than 5k. Are you a bible tosser?
Proctor Sample hahaha just read the second comment, or part of it. I don't think you are the full shilling my excitable friend. Now run along and play.
James Grimwood They are also known for various high quality glues and tapes, and for a long running dispute with the Minnesota State Government about cleaning up some old mess.
What a fascinating bit of kit. And how cool to hear the attitudes to education back then, as well as the kids messing about and recording music over them :D
What a interesting device this machine is. Here, in USSR (Estonia SSR) school we had only reel-to-reel tapes for english lessons and sometimes simple little devices with red and green light and some buttons, using punch cards with questions on them). If i'll be able to find something interesting, i'll send it to TechMoan, as *i am commander Shepard and this is my favourite channel on TH-cam!* (lol). Thank you for nice job!
Never true, Columbus was only seeking a all water route to Asia. This idea he was trying to prove the world is round is an anti-catholic propaganda by 18 and 19th century atheists and agnostics
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp The idea that it was "anti-catholic propaganda by 18th and 19th century atheists and agnostics" is 21st century Papist and Catholic, arse licking, paedophile propaganda.
2:43 Interesting how times have changed "There is a lady who all come to see because she is fat". No company in their right mind would ever produce something like that today. They would be blown to pieces.
I was very interested to hear about the IQ test for students utilizing a self-portrait! My mother was grade school teacher in Texas through the 1960’s and she told us all about this method which was employed by Houston, Texas public schools. She felt this activity was ridiculous and couldn’t believe it was part of the overall curriculum. Thank you for capturing this history and having such a great channel!
I don't get how it works. Who wouldn't draw a head in a picture of themselves? Also what's drawing ability got to do with intelligence? Sounds incredibly ropey, like they couldn't be bothered to assess what they should.
Jonathan Cook I agree as did my mother. I suppose it was a well intentioned idea that got distorted as it passed through education committees prior to being utilized in the classroom. 🤔
It was good that your mother saw it for what it was. Some of these mandatory things have no substance or worth, and unfortunately a lot of people (inc teachers) go along with it as an Emperor's New Clothes. The bad side can be when it tars perfectly healthy children with a label that can stay on their record for years, or cloud a real problem they have.
I remember word cards in school in the 1970s, where each card - about the size of a computer punched card - had a word spelled in big letters. At the bottom of each card was a magnetic strip, with the spoken word recorded on it. The card was then slid into a machine that would play the word as the card went through it. I think it had several channels, because I remember being able to listen to the standard clear word that can with the cards, then by holding a switch down you could hear another channel where a teacher at the school attempted to record their own version. Some of them where hilarious, because the teacher versions had all sorts of background noises and sounds of other kids being naughty. That was when I was seven, and I haven't stopped taking things apart and rebuilding them since, which is why Techmoan takes up so much of my procrastination time :-) I've not seen details of these machines since, but from memory they were about the size of a small portable typewriter and were encased in shiny pewter-like metal.
Well, the idea sounded pretty good...on paper.
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I'm honestly surprised our family didn't own one of these. We were _always_ on the wrong side of history. We had a Betamax, and when they stopped releasing movies for it, we switched to Laserdisc. My father had an 8-track player both in our home and in his car, and when they stopped releasing albums for it, he bought a reel-to-reel, convinced it was the next big thing. All my friends had an Atari 2600, while we had an Intellivision. And when I asked for a home computer, I got a Coleco Adam.
NoJusticeNoPeace that's hilarious. So you had gobots instead of transformers too, didn't you?
Did you parents buy AMC cars as well? Mine did. I feel we lived tech lives very similar. Betamax? yes but when it came for computers we got a VIC20. And instead of Atari we had odyssey 2. Ugh.
Do you now own a Mac?
@@BlackTyeChi I DID have GoBots. Damn. That hurts. You hit below the belt.
Laserdisc was the best format for home cinema, at least until DVD came out, and even that's debatable. Getting that was a great idea! You get the best image quality available during the 80s and 90s, the Laserdisc versions were often uncensored, and often had great extra features you certainly wouldn't get on video tape. Fuck VHS, it's garbage in every way. It's only advantage is it got nearly every release. But Laserdisc usually did too, even if it might take a while.
I'm saying that and I never owned a Laserdisc player, I just know my technology!
Intellivision (BAY FIFTY-TWO BAAWMEEERR!) hardware was well advanced of the 2600s. The 2600 was particularly shit, the hardware designed for Pong and Combat. It got... versions... of other games for a few years but they were really squeezed in there, and it showed. They looked fucking AWFUL and gameplay was usually very limited. Also the Colecovision had hardware not far away from arcade machines of the time. Again I had none of these machines. Like most Europeans I had home computers instead, and spent time playing games designed for computers, rather than endless arcade conversions and ripoffs like the American consoles got.
The Coleco Adam yep I'll give you. It had the techology I mentioned, similar to arcade hardware of the time of the Colecovision, but that was years previous. By the time of the Adam it was lacking. Also the dual inbuilt tape drives were bizarre and pointless, and built-in meant you lost your whole computer when they went wrong. Rather than other computers that had separate external tape drives. Indeed the ZX Spectrum, and many other British computers, used a tape player you would supply yourself, any tape player would do. Much easier and more flexible, cheaper too. Even if you bought a tape player just for it, you could use that to listen to music later, me and my sisters did.
So yeah you get a few points for the Adam. Which also weirdly came with a built-in printer. Which the power supply for the whole machine was built into! So you couldn't do without it! And printers are expensive, which made the whole thing more expensive! Yep a stupid machine. But I'd have liked them if they eventually crashed the prices on them. Not living in the USA, and not being an adult at that time, I didn't have the opportunity.
Missing out on the 2600 and VHS though? You missed a bullet!
"Only available on misappropriated school equipment" cracked me up. This guy always bring the unexpected deadpan hilarity.
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Maybe they were trying to avoid copyright ;p
As an Ilustrator, i really would love an alternative timeline where instead of casette tapes we used this type of format, and the pages had amezing artwork, or carring a literal folder with all your music on it.
That's sounds just amazing
Well, get to it and make a collection of playable album posters. You already know the technology exists.
U could be buying smth like "build up our machine" and have bendy artwork on the front or something.
@@deusexaethera yeah but even could manufacture this, wich dont know how expensive would be considering, who even still works with magnetic tape now days, very few people has this device and would requiore manufacture that too.
is a cool concept but dont think would be that easy to do now days, besides make it a nitch funny thing
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That lady's voice is going to turn up in my nightmares, I just know it.
"All right kiddies, its time to sharpen out Knives!!!"
Ḑ̸̀̌̆́͘͜i̷̢̧̨̯̬̠͔͈̊̆̔̃̚͝d̸̘̳͗̈́͂̽̓̈́̌̅̆̆̏̇͝ ̸̧̝͚͇͎̖̱̓̈́̈́̆͌͂͛̅̂̒̓̆̚y̶̩͇̟̤̟̻̤͐o̴̧͚̱̝̩̫̲͛̓̆u̴͚̥͔͒͆͗̈́̔̒͜ ̵͓̟̻̺͙͈̖̩̱͖͖̮́̔̆͋̓̄d̶̛̥̍͂́̈́r̸̢̨̨̨̡̭̻̰͍͇̘̭͙̩̓̀̾̆̄͋͆̌̐͠͝͝ͅä̷̢͓̭̘̠̱̉͌w̶̖̤̔́̔̀̃̈́̏͐͗͝͝ ̵̧͈̞̙̬̱͔̔̎̂̐͑͒͒̎̌͘͝ȧ̸̛͚̱̞̲͉̇̈́̏̇̿̈́͠ ̵̨͎̖̞̙͇̹̈́̄̑̓͊͆̆̚l̷̨̧͍̪̭̝̹̖͇̟̬̖̍́͊̀̀̕͝͝ͅį̷̨͙͎͉͓͕̣͛͝n̸̡̡̳̝̖̜͓̙͚̖̣̟̹̈́̌͌̐͆̊̓͊̃͝ê̸͇̥͗̐̂̊̔̌̀̕ ̷̢̋̀̑f̴̛̥̖̬̝̌̋̾̿̆͗͆͘͠r̸̨͈̠͖̹͉͕̲̬̖̝̙̀͆̊͗̓͠ơ̸̢͈̩͉̫̖̫̬̼̙̦̹̘̏̈́̑̍̆̔̑͆̓̅͘͠ṁ̸̩̭̃̉̍̆͗̃̇̃̒̉ ̸̩̳̓́̄̒͘͘t̴̛̹̽͊͋̑̈́͂̈́̾̈́̈́̔͠ḩ̴̱̥̩̤̤̜͚̦̤̼̪͛̚ę̸̡̣͙͕̥̜͛̇̈́̋̿̿̿̽͗͌͝ ̶̛̼̼͓͚̲̉̅̅́̔̍̉̇́͠͠p̷̛̰͕̯̈́́̍̽̅̚ị̴̧̖̜͍̫̩̠̪͇̗͈̮̀̉͛͝ͅc̸̡͖̮̻̘̠̮̏̓̈́̓͗̽̌̓́ͅt̵̡͈̣͖͉͍̤̞̻͔̱̀̈̃͐͋̅͊û̴͉̙͈̝̥̣͔͚͒̾ŗ̷͚̩͓̭̗̲̘̠̟̥̞̺̦̮͌e̵̥̺̞͚̥͇̲̥͔̱̱̋̏̀̋͐̅̇̇̈́̓͑̔̏͝ͅ ̶̟̮̺̣̤͍̠͇̥̟̩̱̀̏͗̓̆̂̋̍̈̿̂̓͝ͅṫ̸̠͖͗̍o̶̡̢̫̩͕̖̩̗̠͕̟͌́͊̍̋̿̏̈́̑͛͌̓̚͜͠ ̵̢͕̲̰̳̥̄̓͛̋̀̃̃͜͝t̵̡̨̡̡͈̯̗͇̰̲͔̔̾̉͐́͆̊͆̂̕͜h̴̟̰̣̓͋̐͌͋̈̋̽̏̃̕é̴͖͇̝̯̔̉̓̐̾̓́͆̒ ̶̛͚̬̱͔̼̠͎̆̀͋̑͑̊̿̃̕͠͝w̸̡̮̿̈́ö̶̢͈̙͓̼̝̭͙́̅̓̎̄̈́͗r̷̛̬̫͔̪̠̞͚̘̺̺͉̠̖͍̎̔́͗͗̓̓̈́̀̿́̄͝ͅd̴̨̗̗͔̰̮̟̙͙̜͙̐͆̉͛̾̀̐̇͝͝ ̵̛͍͇̳͉̈́͌̒̽̈́̀͜"̷͕̺͖͉͖̃́f̷̡̙̙̺͋̈̇͒͂̍̇̂̆a̶̧̝͙͕͈̼̘̼̰̥͈̤͋̋̽̽͌͐͝͝t̵̢̹̙͎̳͕͂̊̄̈́̆̊"̸̧͖͖͇̙̲̼͍͚̟͆̊̕?̶̦̯̯͚̿̓̉̐͘͜
shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I feel this would be a great prop for a horror movie or something like that, a group of policeman are investigating a cold case at an abandoned school and information left by the kids is discovered by playing these.
4:32 is PURE cinema nightmare fuel, and would go perfectly in a found footage film set in an abandoned 1970s era Oklahoma elementary school that was mysteriously condemned after an … unknown incident.
A great way for Mr. Phelps to receive mission briefings on "Mission Impossible". The front side has a picture, the back has info about the picture.
With a soundtrack of songs from the nineties recorded on this device.... It's something quite scary in itself.
A cool ghost story as well.
Or a horror game where you need to sort the pages out and play them? Like the typical horrifying notes in a game, but you get them in the recorder and they play secret recodings? That'd be cool
"To convert this raw score of 48, to IQ score, you will now how to change to sound page... *SHUFFLESHUUFFLE OH CRAP OH DAMN WHERE IS IT OH MAN IM MESSING THIS UP* number ssss... eight!" Nailed it.
That guy probably forgot the head in his self-portrait.
The target audience - the teachers tasked with calculating the IQ scores of children - was considered to be more comfortable receiving instructions as low-fidelity audio recordings on expensive proprietary media, instead of in the form of printed words.
This has a few implications, -all- _some_ of which are depressing.
@@HaloInverse I'm a bit more optimistic, and think they just wanted the teachers to experience their little gimmick as well.
@@PhirePhlame ...you know, using the instructions as a form of "tech demo" _would_ also make sense - so the teachers using this technology with their students would have more first-hand knowledge of it.
You make a fair point - previous comment updated.
Looks like they took that activity about as seriously as anyone should have.
'70s equipment with '90s pop songs played on TH-cam in the '10s. Love those layers!
Mats 50s equipment!
20 years each
With early 1900s Mid Atlantic accents.
@@LikaLaruku The teacher's voice sounded like a northern southern American accent. Say Tennessee or Kentucky.
@@killerbee2562 Oklahoma. For sure. My grandma speaks like that.
You know I hear Shelly the shoemaker's shoes are a bit shit. Shoddy workmanship, not to mention the shady shell corporations.
Ah, good old Shelley "The Machine" Levene, shoe-seller extraordinaire...
Surely Not!!!
So he's kind of a shy shyster?
@@borisbrosowski6630 exshactly!
@Simple Weirdo "Sheller? I barely know 'er!"
"Is he going to play the music? The copyright system might recognise them and... ah, right. Never mind. Nobody's recognising this."
Dis'zz Klelion Dein, maaan! Evry-un knowz herz.
Forget the vinyl and cassette resurgence -- misappropriated school equipment is going to be THE format trend for 2018!
waiting for hipsters to start buying them
lanswipe They need to click into the 3M Thermofax copiers as well, those were classic!
Giselle Velazquez Nobody tell Jack White these exist or it will be the only format his next single is on
I liked paper recordings even before you thought they were cool.
HD Vinyl? 30-minute sides that sound as good as 18-minute sides? Screw that! I got sheets of paper with ferric oxide recorded on obsolete school equipment - and I got all the hottest hits!
Apparently, the supply of old recording formats will never dry up.
The glue on the media must have been great, and the density low cause the DO sound surprisingly good.
Fortunately IDE to USB devices exist.
VWestlife I went to Google this and the first result is a forum post by you. I also already subscribe to your channel. You're everywhere 😆
It's really hard to understand what you mean. Disk format on what level? Standard formating on what level? Media level - physical recording and encoding?, Data structures like block and error checksums? Or something else?
What is represented via interface is different than what you can really read from the media itself and it is translated by controller on drives for those two standards. This is the same for IDE and for SCSI. Main controller is build on drives. What you call today a controller, is only in fact a very simple interconnect interface between drive and computer. IDE/SCSI defines only data communication between drive and computer. No internal low level data structures or physical recording system on medium or raw access to it are defined in those standards.
Only real off-drive controllers remaining in those days are floppy drive controllers in PCs and a few memory readers can allow you to use bypass mode to get to individual memory cells on flash cards.
You need really dumb access to media like you had in case of RLL and MFM controllers where controller itself was on separate card. Some drives can allow access to raw data or some raw data on media via special manufacture specific commands (undocumented commands or in case of SCSI also pages). But this is drive specific and it is not in IDE/SCSI standard.
You can often also access those data via diagnostic interfaces present on drive PCBs or connecting directly to low level reading/writing part but you have to know how to decode data. But again. There is not standard defining specific structure of storage data on media - again very specific to each drive - even between series and sometimes also not easy to get if you are not a data recovery company.
What a small world. I currently work for Ricoh and live in Oklahoma.
And I might buy this obsolete stuff if it can store sounds in 50 year old paper it can hold it for 100 years.
Its not a small world. I just think your unlucky bro. : )
Jonathan Golden greetings to my neighbor north of me....in Hurst, Texas
I would consider myself unlucky if I'd never seen scissortails flying through the Ozarks, but I have. I might be unlucky if I couldn't find everything from warehouse raves to livestock shows in one town, but I can. I'd also consider myself unlucky if Ricoh didn't make me an admin and give me my own office...but they did. So, I might have to disagree with you. Come and visit the Big Friendly anytime, and I'll take you out for some cheese fondue.
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I need one of these, such a neat concept. Actually I can see younger kids having fun with it if you tell them "hey you can record your voice on this piece of paper"
The "draw a man" test was an integral part of IQ tests for young children in the 1950's at least, and was scored similarly with respect to age. It made up only a part of the complete IQ test which included questions in text form.
Shermanbay interesting factoid. The draw a man draw a woman was part of a psych evaluation test that I had to take when I went to prison in the early 2000’s. They would then call you in and ask you questions like “why did you draw breast on the woman?” Or something similar and then look at you while you asked making a weird face while they scribbled something down on a paper. They would not answer any questions either just ask you questions about the answers you gave on the test. Just because I’m sure someone will ask. I went to prison for drugs.
Now that you've answered the question I was going to ask, I'll ask a different questions, @@davidsandlin9686 (if that is your real name). Which drugs?
Tjimi Cole possession of heroin and cocaine. I was an opiate addict and also used cocaine. I’ve been clean since 2012.
customsongmaker they were proportionate to the rest of her. Lol.
@@davidsandlin9686 hey congrats on being clean for that long.
Idea: music sheets with the actual music recorded on them.
Yamaha had a playcard system for certain keyboards. But those just contained digital instructions on a magnetic strip.
There is an even older technology that used paper to store music. Ever seen a Player Piano? Those used a large spool of paper with holes punched into it that told the pianos which keys to press. One could say this is the same idea with just a little electronic technology added in.
Back when I was crazily buying up every weird recording format I could find, one of these popped up on eBay. The listing confirms what I'm sure Mat has experienced - that the world is full of very strange people. The listing included a picture of the owner, dressed in leather bits, holding the Sound Page towards a similarly dressed woman on her knees, licking the Sound Page.
I did grit my teeth and buy the unit, and cleaned it very thoroughly when it arrived.
Now mine was listed as a piece of office equipment, and included a plastic cover with white piping that made it look very 70's office chic. It included some blank pages. I never dreamed they were used as educational devices.
My bad - the woman was licking the mic, not the Sound Page.
Keith Johnson Ah ok, not that weird then ... lol
Keith Johnson You could just edit the comment...
nelo7149 - Canal Oficial No editing of comments if one is using a mobile device (or at least with Apple, have not tried an Android with TH-cam).
But the OPs comment certainly made me laugh, there are some real characters in this world.
Edit: I take that back, Google finally added an edit feature on iOS.
You're right. I didn't think.
This device is the reverse of the Tefifon! The Tefifon is a cassette that plays with a phonograph needle, and this is essentially a turntable that uses a magnetic head! Ha! Crazy.
Techmoan not only has a Tefi but keeps it hooked up to his HiFi. It's one of the formats he actually liked enough to manage to integrate into the already complicated setup.
I laughed uncontrollably when you were pronouncing the way those music artists names were misspelled. That was hilarious.
Jewl
Pretty amazing! When I read the title, I was thinking it was going to read a 1-bit digital audio signal from black and white dots off the paper! Sound quality is pretty good!
I can imagine some underground indie band making an album for this as promotional work.
Man for some reason the idea of kids in the 90s still using these things in school depresses the hell out of me.
I THINK I vaugely remember using something like this in Pre-K in 1991.
Gotta love America and the lack of education budget.
Matthew Colville The schools I went to didn't use VHS machines until the 90's, so they were content with their 16mm film projectors and filmstrip thingys for quite a while, and the occasional 3/4" U-Matic VTR machine stuck on a TV cart that might be rolled into the classroom!
I walked into my kids' elementary school classroom last year, and was amazed to see the same brown cassette player I used in elementary school 30 years earlier.
Makayla Serniotti this comes from Oklahoma, whose teachers just walked out because it has one of the lowest investment in education in the US.
"Can only be found on misappropriated school equipment!"
Best part.
I HAD FORGOTTEN ABOUT THESE! I believe my class had 2 of these in the 90s. We did different learning groups where for the first 10 or 20 minutes your group learned using this, then after you switch out and the next group takes your spot and you do one of the other learning group activities. It was kind of fun to learn this way in the 90s.
The heads move, media doesn't.. That's genius. Pre-PC era I can see how this really helped with learning. Thanks for sharing.
Considering the age and that it's on paper, it does sound great.
i need one of these so I can play my music back in the highest quality
yes please
how are you here
Cyranek Didn’t expect to see you here LOL
How tf u get here Cyranek
Don't you need a sharpened number two pencil for a needle?
I half expect Jack White to release an album on this format.
Once upon a time, the Oklahoma Legislature actually bought things for their students. Huh.
Oklahoma's legislature doesn't buy things for education, they have the districts do it instead. This probably never saw a single school room, much less students. It was probably given out for free as advertising.
@@absalomdraconis Yeah, a lot schools have one smartboard to show off to potential donors how high tech their school is and that they should invest in education. But teachers and students are not allowed to use that one smartboard.
@@rubiconnn Some of us adventurous kids found it rolled into a corner and wanted to play with it, after the teacher gave us the OK we hooked it up to the projector and computer. Calibrating was a breeze. Played with it for like 30 minutes and had our fill of excitement for the class period.
As somebody who attended Oklahoma public schools in the 1970's, I'm pretty sure our school didn't have any of these.
@@davidbono9359 Sorry, was talking about smartboards that were around in 2000-ish.
I'd love to connect it to a home computer and load programs from paper
Now that's a program listing page
I like that idea. They could have come in computer magazines.
TIL 3M originally stood up for "Minnesota Mining & Manufacturing" Co.
It still does.
I love how creepy the blank recording pages sound. Gives me the shivers.
And also the creepy views of the system itself...
@@squidiskool What gets me is how the people giving instructions on how to give IQ tests keep stumbling over words, misreading their script, and genuinely don't seem to care at all.
@@spugintrntl Once you peel back the thin curtain, all of western education is exactly like that.
@@spugintrntl "... you will now have to change to sound page [CLATTER] number s-- eight." He shuffled around to check which page it was and STILL nearly got it wrong.
I've seen a couple of those machines, but never knew what they were.
Had I been born a couple years later, I might have had the chance to use one, but at age 7 in '74, I was already reading at a higher level than the material that was presented in this presentation. As a result, the teacher had us reading short stories, and not just learning words.
However, in high school (I think tenth grade) on the last day of the year, we were digging around the for some distraction from the bordom of nothing to do when one of the guys found a portable open reel tape deck.
The teacher wasn't sure if it still worked as he hadn't used it in fifteen years, but set it up, anyway.
It did work, and we all took turns recording with it, and playing it back.
It just goes to show that when students start digging around, they will find old equipment, and try it out.
As a 78-year old with a lifetime interest in audio/visual history, I thought I'd seen, read or heard about everything. Delighted to discover from this video that I haven't. Many thanks for sharing this.
(As proof of my aforementioned passion, each time I attempt to declare my present age, my laptop's predictive text function writes 78rpm )
Probably the best tech channel on TH-cam, your intro and outro music is so comforting and techy I really need to hear it everyday. Thanks for all your effort; stay well and keep posting.
cleion dein was always my favorite singer in teatanik, so sad movie
Haha that ending. Love the badly concealed sarcasm! 😂👍🏼👍🏼
Anders are you going to record music for this format, misusing old school equipment?
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Literally old school.
Techmoan does sarcasm very well.
It was a grand finale !!!
The school lessons sound so eerie I love them
There's something creepy about tje recordings. The sentences also seem to be of different audio quality, some sound like the woman recorded it in a tunnel, there's just so much echo.
Mono sound tends to do that.
pretty sure there was some spring/plate reverb or something like that, artificial reverb was a thing even then
I’m amazed that you can make such fascinating videos about technology that isn’t just a sponsored review!
Love these type of old technology! Keep it up
Interesting! Also, I almost spat my beer all over my laptop when you did the music compilation voiceover part haha! Keep up the good work mate!
+Techmoan Let me start by saying you will never run out of "classic" items for your videos. What is "state of the art" today, is obsolete tomorrow.
I want you also say I enjoy your videos. They're nostalgic and I love seeing the "classic" technology. Keep producing these great videos. Thank you.
"Are your windows nice and clean?" I fell like she's gonna take my eyes
I was feeling quite down - until I watched this episode! This put a smile on my face - great episode TM, thank you for cheering me up :-) Keep up the good work!
The southern drawl, constant stumbling over words despite the very slow pace, and the subject matter really do make a very melancholy combination.
Yes, let's all inflict standardised testing on a child's art project, that will help them in life.
I don't know man, that Southern lady's accent is pretty hot.
Southern USA > rest of USA in everyway.
The south in my opinion is less racist than most major northern cities. I'm not "white" and I've been everywhere in USA and experienced the opposite of what I've been told in media. The south east is so special, especially my home in the blue ridge mountains. Of course you have bad actors but the south gets a bad wrap because of their history, which is deserved but if people would move on things would be alot better. Most of the people who won't accept change are outside looking in, the people who embrace the culture are the ones who are defining the new south. Today you can be invited into a multicultural cookout as a complete stranger and have the best time of your life in the south. Hospitality is in our blood, so is lard ;-)
The thing that really makes me sad is that this is tech from the 70's; (which was considered niche at the time) that one can infer still hadn't been completely phased out of the curriculum by the mid 90's. And this was well before shit like "No Child Left Behind" was enacted.
@@cptnwcky : No, Oklahoma doesn't actually have a centralised education system. It's far more likely that this was given out for free as advertising. Chances are that this never saw a classroom.
It's incredible that this runs with the original capacitors and that the white plastic hasn't yellowed like on a Commodore VIC-20 or other plastic devices from that era.
It's mostly capacitors from the late 80s to early 90s that have major issues (look up the "capacitor plague" for more info).
@@alphamone Look up capacitor plague? For what? The shitty Wikipedia article where actual facts are constantly getting deleted (which has been ongoing for the past 10+ years) and the same old bullshit stories repeated because mainstream media has mentioned that drivel and therefore counts as a reliable source? No thanks lol
Mat, you sir need a peak viewing slot on BBC2 every week. Your vids are better than 99% of other factual programmes on mainstream TV. Bet they've approached you already!?
PurpleTT99 -Agreed. Some sort of retro version of the Gadget Show would be a huge hit. But no, just more endless bloody X-Factor and Bake Off crap. No wonder no-one under the age of 40 bothers with the telly anymore.
So, as a professional window cleaner and found sound collager, this is gold. Maybe pyrite.
Thank you, I have been looking for this device for yrs. I would tell my friends about this device for yrs. My parents brought this to teach me how to read and spell. I was able to skip several grades. My parents swore by it. OH! My Goodness thank you very much. Several of my friends thought I was lying until I found your channel and of course I share your channel to my FB and Twitter accounts. My sister had Show and Tell.
I'm impressed with the durability of the recordings, I've got cassette tapes from the early 2000s that didn't hold up as well!
I wonder why they covered the entire back side of the sheet with the oxide instead of just the circle in the middle where the play head is at, maybe its just simpler to cover the entire side than the specific area that is played.
The Astro Gamer they could have made the paper circular. Would have been practical
But it would make drawing on it harder.
The Astro Gamer it would be a picture disc on paper instead of vinyl
If it was a circle you wouldn't be able to photocopy onto it or use standard printing equipment.
so no scratching :(
This is one of the best channels on TH-cam!
this is so fascinating i can't even explain it. as a person who spent enough time fantasizing about any which way audio recording could happen, this completes a dream.
I shared your video with my sister, an elementary school teacher. She said that they still have these in their speech classrooms.
It sounds like something boards of canada would take samples from. Amazing machine.
The sound is really good, very impressive! Quality contents, thanks.
Hearing the voices of people who are long dead (trough an old, distorted-sounding device no less) always creeps me out, I don't like it.
What do you do when you see a black and white film?
@@tiberiu_nicolae The people with voices on the device were not born the year it came out...
The machine is from the 1970s, not the 1920s.
@@enricosanchez894 And many of the people were in the forties, and now would be in their nineties. Or older. Their lives have passed, whether they too have yet.
You must really hate laugh tracks! They were taped decades ago and there is a good chance that every laugh you hear is from a now deceased person.
Those are amazingly good quality, the first time I’ve ever seen such a recording format….
You can just imagine that lady’s voice being used in an Avalanches track.
I love this! Probably my favourite of all your videos Mr Techmoan!
YES! Getting on the earth is round vs. flat bandwagon too with that page
Alians Morseet was my favourite back in the day. Sounds like a character from Star Wars.
8:55 honestly that's just downright creepy to me, it's just the way it cuts in.
I'm delighted to know that some 90s kid found these sound pages and recorded pop songs on them. What a time capsule.
I'd love a full rip of the home recorded stuff, just as an archive of almost lost media. Seems neat to preserve something no one ever thought would be heard again.
I love Alians Morseet. Her album 'Jagid lottle peel' was fantastic
That teachers voice is creepy, along with the use of heavy reverb. I'm surprised they were still being used into the mid 90's, but then again that's Oklahoma schools.
i think the reverb is due to the system since when techmoan seemed to be recording from the headphone output it sounded normal
Its been added for an dramatic effect to grab kids attention.
"I'm SHelley the SHoemaker, and I'm full of SHit
brokenSCART Or just pissed that he got saddled with a girl's name. Why *do* Americans inflict that on their kids, anyway?
I thought i was the only one saying shhh shhh shhhit!
as soon as I saw SH I already imagined school kids writing SHIT.
It wasn't a girl's name yet.
This machine just amazes me!
I just saw one of these at the goodwill, wish I got a better look at it! tried asking my parents if they knew what it was and even they had no idea, glad I found this vid to help me out :D
I lost it at your pronunciation of "Jewl." That was great.
Alians Morseet was always the best. :)
Aliens !!! where !!
Alien Marmoset and Cleon Deon are timeless!
when you started to zoom in during the "sh" page I think that is hilarious
I love these videos, I grew up around an old tv repair shop that was choc full of strange old tech. Loved exploring it as a kid, love watching your videos as an adult. Thank you Techmoan.
Your videos are very informative and educational, but you always leave me smiling as well! Thank you so much! :-)
I gotta say , a paper player/recorder I did not see that coming 🤔
mattzww yeah, I really thought he'd made that up. Recording audio on paper, what a daft idea :-)
"The ASMR nuts are going to love this."
lol.
yup, he's right about that xD
Can confirm
Pretty cool! I was born in 1971, and I started Kindergarten in 1976, but I don't remember seeing those in my years in public school in SoCal (76-90).
Same here.I don`t remember ever seeing one either(Ky).
Oh! I’ve used a device similar to this. It was called a language master. Instead of full sheets, it recorded on these long rectangular cards. One side had a word and a sentence in Braille and a single strip of magnetic tape on the other side. Unlike your device, you slid the card into the device on one side and it moved through the machine and out the other side. Recording time was about fifteen seconds and there were no buttons other than the record button. It had an internal speaker as well as a headphone jack. I used one while I was learning to read back in nineteen eighty five. Nice trip down memory lane! I would’ve loved an entire page of recorded paper.
I swear I was subscribed to this channel years ago, but it appears I was not.
That has been corrected.
This channel is one of my favorites. I was afraid Techmoan would run out of audio tech to review, but after this intro I'm not worried.
Flat earthers violently triggered at 6:02.
John Michaelson bravo drama queen , you get bullied in the real world so you go online to bully others, real alpha male you are
@mrfurball I FOUND THE FLAT EARTHER!
Just because I don't believe in a flat Earth doesn't mean I'm cool with disrespecting these people for no reason, in the free world you have the right to believe what ever you want even if it's rather unusual. I think North Korea is looking to fill their ranks with thought Nazis...
Someones a bit sensitive. I always assumed in order to "bully" someone you'd have to make some kind of insulting remark, not point out a certain group might get mad at a certain part of a video. But what do I know...I'm a moron that believes things like science.
Apparently, sir, you need to look up the word "bullying" in the dictionary. I didn't call them any names, I didn't abuse them or cast aspersions on their intellectual level or education. Paraphrasing Moynihan, flat earthers are entitled to their own opinions, but they're not entitled to their own facts.
Please do a segment called teak moan about old electronics with wood grain finishes.
Or a segment called steakmoan reviewing all the cuts of beef out there and how to cook them properly.
Darksepheroth
Rocking idea 🔊
Oh my god That made me laugh really hard!!!!!!! :D So funny
@Darksepheroth He'd definitely have to have LGR on board with that idea.
@@BertGrink Lol, I was just going to say that LGR would absolutely love that. Clint adores all things wood grain.
a Techmoan and an oddity archive video in the same day, proof that god exists
9:15 - "Out now on K-Smell Records!"
i prefer sergei's catacoumb of classics
Wow, never thought I'd see someone mention oddity archive here.
speaking of ol' benny boy, i saw in my notifications he liked a post of mine, i want to litteraly scream,
Also, he's fully aware of the audience and fans of both, hell benny boy enjoys techmoan aswell
Be N S O N I got a serious Oddity Archive vibe off that part with the music recordings!
This video production quality is better than our national television broadcast
This channel never lets me down
Every sailor, or anyone who's watched ships on the horizon, knew the Earth is round. The flat Earth theory was not as popular as myth would have it. _Everybody_ didn't believe in a flat Earth.
The Earth projects a round shadow on the moon, and early histories recorded that people thought the Earth was round as early as 700 BC.
The circumference of the Earth was even measured by *Eratosthenes* (276-194 B.C.) using a method not unlike a sundial: driving two sticks into the ground, miles apart from each other, when measured at the same time of day cast different shadows. His measurements suggested the Earth's circumference should be 25,000 miles, less than 100 miles from today's accepted figure.
Proctor Sample oh fuck up you moron. Stop trying to be smarter than you are! History goes back only 5k years lol? Nope History dates back to the start of everything numb nuts! Do you mean written history? Wtf has that got to do with anything? The recording simply states that at some point people would have thought the earth was flat because it looked flat until one day they realised it was round. This is a fact champ. It's not open for debate. Oh btw why don't you enlighten us on the age of humanity since you know more than anyone alive? Not that it's relevant to this. Humanity is older than 5k. Are you a bible tosser?
Proctor Sample hahaha just read the second comment, or part of it. I don't think you are the full shilling my excitable friend. Now run along and play.
Colin Johnston
Ok, what is your problem here?
I never knew 3M stood for three words that started with the letter M. Minnesota Mining and Manufacturing Co.
JohnnyNismo Me neither, and I grew up there.
Lived here basically my entire life and I didnt know lol
And a mining company is now best known for making little sticky pads that come with GoPro and dashcams.
James Grimwood They are also known for various high quality glues and tapes, and for a long running dispute with the Minnesota State Government about cleaning up some old mess.
Not to mention being one of the first US manufacturers of reels of recording tape.
And of course “ScotchTape”
I remember seeing one in school and this video made it seem like I was meeting an old friend
What a fascinating bit of kit. And how cool to hear the attitudes to education back then, as well as the kids messing about and recording music over them :D
What a interesting device this machine is. Here, in USSR (Estonia SSR) school we had only reel-to-reel tapes for english lessons and sometimes simple little devices with red and green light and some buttons, using punch cards with questions on them). If i'll be able to find something interesting, i'll send it to TechMoan, as *i am commander Shepard and this is my favourite channel on TH-cam!* (lol). Thank you for nice job!
"Cleion Dein - But its all coming Bach to me mow" lol
Well you can see what learning disabilities landed them in juvie. They're beyond dyslexic. They're Mega-lexic! (with reverb)
Got enough reverb? My goodness...
6:00 and yet, some people still think the Earth is flat... -_-
They were clearly NOT paying attention when THAT page was on...
Never true, Columbus was only seeking a all water route to Asia. This idea he was trying to prove the world is round is an anti-catholic propaganda by 18 and 19th century atheists and agnostics
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp The idea that it was "anti-catholic propaganda by 18th and 19th century atheists and agnostics" is 21st century Papist and Catholic, arse licking, paedophile propaganda.
The Earth is Round.
@@JohnSmith-eo5sp who touched you
Fascinating! I would never have believed it had I not seen it... Thanks for the great and unusual video
2:43 Interesting how times have changed "There is a lady who all come to see because she is fat". No company in their right mind would ever produce something like that today. They would be blown to pieces.
Hearing the voices of the teachers made me have the thought of "we just listened to voices of dead people"
Sounds like the dead don't sleep easy... 😹
7:08-8:30: appearing soon on an upcoming Godspeed You! Black Emperor album.
I need to hear what it sounds like misaligned or folded, it's hard to imagine it would have much tolerance for error
I was very interested to hear about the IQ test for students utilizing a self-portrait! My mother was grade school teacher in Texas through the 1960’s and she told us all about this method which was employed by Houston, Texas public schools. She felt this activity was ridiculous and couldn’t believe it was part of the overall curriculum. Thank you for capturing this history and having such a great channel!
I don't get how it works. Who wouldn't draw a head in a picture of themselves? Also what's drawing ability got to do with intelligence? Sounds incredibly ropey, like they couldn't be bothered to assess what they should.
Jonathan Cook I agree as did my mother. I suppose it was a well intentioned idea that got distorted as it passed through education committees prior to being utilized in the classroom. 🤔
It was good that your mother saw it for what it was. Some of these mandatory things have no substance or worth, and unfortunately a lot of people (inc teachers) go along with it as an Emperor's New Clothes. The bad side can be when it tars perfectly healthy children with a label that can stay on their record for years, or cloud a real problem they have.
I remember word cards in school in the 1970s, where each card - about the size of a computer punched card - had a word spelled in big letters. At the bottom of each card was a magnetic strip, with the spoken word recorded on it. The card was then slid into a machine that would play the word as the card went through it.
I think it had several channels, because I remember being able to listen to the standard clear word that can with the cards, then by holding a switch down you could hear another channel where a teacher at the school attempted to record their own version. Some of them where hilarious, because the teacher versions had all sorts of background noises and sounds of other kids being naughty. That was when I was seven, and I haven't stopped taking things apart and rebuilding them since, which is why Techmoan takes up so much of my procrastination time :-)
I've not seen details of these machines since, but from memory they were about the size of a small portable typewriter and were encased in shiny pewter-like metal.