Philips CD-i, The multimedia future that never was.

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  • @JacGoudsmit
    @JacGoudsmit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2323

    I worked on CD-i productions at Codim between 1994 and 1995. Codim (for some time known as SPC/Codim) was a small but important producer of CD-i titles, many under the Philips name.
    You probably wouldn't have heard about anything I wrote; I mostly worked on educational titles. But if you look at the small print of many Philips CD-i titles, you'll probably see the Codim name.
    CD-i started out as a good idea but had one major flaw: All CD-i discs had to be playable on all CD-i players. Not only did this mean that European (PAL) discs had to be playable in the USA (NTSC) but it also meant that there would never be an upgraded version of CD-i with more memory, a faster CD drive, a hard disk or a network interface (though some of those were available on the professional players). After all, why would anyone invest in a fast CD drive, more memory etc. if all discs would play in the basic system with a 1x speed drive. And why would anyone write a game that could play better in a CD-i player with more features if it was mandatory that it should also play in players that wouldn't have those features.
    My favorite CD-i application was: Background music. Philips had a department back then called Background Music Services (BMS). They were a competitor of Muzak (guess who won and competed the other away). Once a month, they would send a box of DAT tapes to Codim, which we recorded to the hard disk of a computer with a special Sony DSP sound card that cost thousands of dollars but could encode audio to ADPCM format in real-time. The computer had a program (programmed in MS-DOS by my predecessor) that would split the two channels (each channel had one track of music) and multiplexed the ADPCM audio into a real-time mode-2 form 2 file. The file would be part of a disc image, as well as another file with text info (such as song titles). The result was something that could be played with a CD-i player or with a special BGM player (google for the Philips BMS 3000). It could fit 4 to 8 hours of music if I recall correctly. The process of converting one pair of two DAT tapes into one disc image that would go to the factory in Germany, would take a day, and there were usually 10 disc images to be made each month. I wanted to make my own BGM CD but never got around to it. Now the only information about the format that's available on the Internet seems to come from... me.
    Anyway, I have good memories of working for Codim. It was a great team and we had a lot of fun together. I left because I was getting tired of doing the same thing over and over all the time.
    One more thing: Please stop twisting CD's inside jewel cases: if there's a bit of dirt between the case and the CD, it will make a nice perfectly round scratch that will make it unplayable.

    • @jelle_smid
      @jelle_smid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      Held! In andere tijden had ik je hand geschud!
      Mijn CD-i heeft een belangrijke plek in mijn hobby-kamer!

    • @JacGoudsmit
      @JacGoudsmit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@jelle_smid Als je ooit een Vapro (Vakopleiding Procestechniek) CD-i in handen krijgt, dan heb ik die waarschijnlijk gemaakt.

    • @adrianzanoli
      @adrianzanoli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Great story, I'm making a homebrew FMW game for the CD-i, the base model, with only 1 MB of RAM looks like the major problem to me, the extended case with additional 1.5 MB from the DVC help a lot, but most of the early games and softwares had to fit in the 1MB ram.
      Looks like make sounds effect and music work at the same time isn't easy at all.

    • @JacGoudsmit
      @JacGoudsmit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      @Lassi Kinnunen Maybe I should have said: the main major TECHNICAL flaw :-)
      I lived in the home town of Philips but I don't know anyone who owned a CD-i. I never owned one myself either. Everyone I knew already had a PC or some other computer like an Amiga. And they were just way more useful.
      VideoCDs took off about as much as Laser Discs, which is about as much as a lead balloon. Who wants to buy a movie that doesn't even fit on a single disc? Yes it was digital so it was robust, but the quality wasn't any better than VHS and everyone already had a VHS. VCD was a solution without a problem.

    • @BottomOfTheDumpsterFire
      @BottomOfTheDumpsterFire 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I almost like the CD-i, it just had way too many issues to be actually, well, good. My only hunt now is to try and find a development kit for the system, so I could try to make some homebrew on it without trying to reverse engineer a console I don't physically own.

  • @professorpenne9962
    @professorpenne9962 4 ปีที่แล้ว +442

    I remember dad renting the CD-I and 3DO (yes renting game consoles used to be a thing) and they both were way more impressive then the genesis and snes, then he rented a playstation. you dont have to be a rocket scientist to figure out what was the new appliance in our living room a week later.

    • @RetroDawn
      @RetroDawn 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      I always have liked the 3DO more than the PS, myself. I realize that's an unpopular position. I have never owned a PS, nor wanted to, since they came out in the US.

    • @jamesw3546
      @jamesw3546 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@RetroDawn 🤯

    • @IAmAnEvilTaco
      @IAmAnEvilTaco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Renting game consoles is still a thing. I rented one from Aaron’s.

    • @marioalexanderski9598
      @marioalexanderski9598 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      We used to rent IBM PC and compatibles and VIC-20 before that.

    • @disco7379
      @disco7379 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Renting electronics used to be big in the UK, my parents rented a TV at one point.

  • @anactualmotherbear
    @anactualmotherbear 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    The first summer job I had as a teenager was at Burger King, and they used CD-i for their training videos. There's hundreds of undocumented discs out there for businesses.

    • @flashrocket9158
      @flashrocket9158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I bet they got lotsa Spaghetti!

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      that's interesting.
      Then again it started as a "multimedia console" (almost a decade before the PS2, btw) so that makes sense.

    • @Tornado1994
      @Tornado1994 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too! What year was this? For me, this was in 1999.

    • @anactualmotherbear
      @anactualmotherbear 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Tornado1994 Great to hear someone else remembers this. Considering you kinda had to be a HUGE NERD to even realize it was a CD-i system...
      For me, I believe it was 1998, but also again in 1999.

  • @jonasgrill1155
    @jonasgrill1155 4 ปีที่แล้ว +338

    "Here's the problem! Too many toasters! You know what they say? All toasters toast toast!"

    • @n64team30
      @n64team30 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Yeah!

    • @coolguy02536
      @coolguy02536 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      DEAR PESKY PLUMBERS

    • @TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY
      @TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@coolguy02536 the koopalings and i have taken over the mushroom kingdom

    • @cwballard1751
      @cwballard1751 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      The princess is now a permanent guest at one of my seven Koopa hotels.

    • @TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY
      @TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@cwballard1751 i dare you to find her if you can

  • @thecdgmuseum9287
    @thecdgmuseum9287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +63

    Thanks for the shout out. I just uploaded them all, and removed the audio from the ones that got take down notices. Surprisingly many of them are allowed. I have a fairly complete collection of the Warner Era CD+G titles, notably missing Phoebe Snow - Something Real, so always looking out for the CD+G version of that which is apparently pretty rare! Thanks again!

    • @The8BitGuy
      @The8BitGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      No problem. I'm surprised you saw this video!

    • @thecdgmuseum9287
      @thecdgmuseum9287 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@The8BitGuy Got a flurry of new followers and someone mentioned seeing it on 8 bit guy. So a quick google, and....

    • @BayEmirkiYT
      @BayEmirkiYT ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@thecdgmuseum9287 I'm waiting for completing to your replying

  • @scoutdy6547
    @scoutdy6547 4 ปีที่แล้ว +616

    "Sears, which doesn't sell electronics anymore"
    They ain't selling much of anything anymore Dave lol.

    • @Shamino0
      @Shamino0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      They were acquired by K-Mart. Both brands still exist, but there aren't many retail stores left. Which makes me sad - they were the best for consumer appliances.

    • @INeedAttentionEXE
      @INeedAttentionEXE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@Shamino0 Our K-mart smelt like sewer and didn't have anything in stock. Got replaced by Target and Ross very very recently.

    • @RetroMMA
      @RetroMMA 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@INeedAttentionEXE So, a different scent of sewer..?

    • @BBC600
      @BBC600 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Sears Canada is 100% defunct....

    • @INeedAttentionEXE
      @INeedAttentionEXE 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@RetroMMA I get the joke, haha, they did however fix the sewer leak.

  • @Reegangdialectonfortnite
    @Reegangdialectonfortnite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +292

    Me : Sees the CD-I.
    My Brain : Lamp Oil, Rope, Bombs? It's yours my friend as long you have enough rupees.

    • @il-dottore
      @il-dottore 3 ปีที่แล้ว +58

      Sorry Link, I can't give credit.
      Come back when you're a little,
      *MMMMMMMMMM*
      _Richer!_

    • @cst1229
      @cst1229 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Nice of the princess to invite us over for a picnic, gay Luigi?

    • @nathangitz2674
      @nathangitz2674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      This is illegal, you know.

    • @penatio
      @penatio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I just wonder what Ganon's up to!

    • @pettttson
      @pettttson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Gee, it sure is boring 'round here

  • @SteveC86
    @SteveC86 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    My mind was blown when my mom finally let me rent the CDI (Magnavox model) from Blockbuster. I only had it for 3 days, with one game rented, but I stayed glued to that sucker the entire weekend. Cheers!

    • @jeroenboth167
      @jeroenboth167 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What game did you play?

  • @icrafterchips
    @icrafterchips 4 ปีที่แล้ว +640

    At least we got those spicy Hotel Mario memes

    • @startedtech
      @startedtech 4 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      And Zelda!

    • @squirrelguy2195
      @squirrelguy2195 4 ปีที่แล้ว +85

      Nice of the 8-Bit Guy to upload a video, eh Luigi?

    • @poble
      @poble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      MAH BOI

    • @k2yp705
      @k2yp705 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      true tho

    • @aegonthedragon7303
      @aegonthedragon7303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I bet they got lots of spaghetti!

  • @jaspal666
    @jaspal666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    CDi was used as a digital manual for a few US weapon systems in the 90’s. I provided 3D animation for intros for the group who put those digital manuals together.

    • @jaspal666
      @jaspal666 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      A portable unit with built in monitor was used I the field. It was to fulfill the requirement for paper and digital instruction.

  • @GiordanDiodato
    @GiordanDiodato 3 ปีที่แล้ว +74

    despite the memes it created, the CD-i was a pretty advanced home console for its time
    It had 1MB of RAM at a time where most consoles barely had 128KB of RAM.

    • @Dr.W.Krueger
      @Dr.W.Krueger 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      yes, all that memory is great to have. what is not great is the slow CPU and dinky VDP.
      dead on arrival.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Dr.W.Krueger 15.5 MHz, which was most mid-range PCs in 1991. If anything, the reason why it was DoA was because Philips never intended it to be a games console, but rather a multimedia player.

    • @Dr.W.Krueger
      @Dr.W.Krueger 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@GiordanDiodato
      It was too slow. Period. Just look at the applications on this abomination.

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Dr.W.Krueger pssst liking your comment doesn't make you right.
      also most of the applications were slow likely due to the CD format, as CD format was still pretty new when it came to video games.

  • @dennisstappers5920
    @dennisstappers5920 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    I remember using it in lessons at my driving school back in the 90s, it was perfect for practicing traffic situations, all with videos etc. There were a lot of e-learning and practice systems using cd-i in that time

    • @Satoshi9801
      @Satoshi9801 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      My driver's ed class used LaserDiscs...and this was in 2015.

  • @SILS74R
    @SILS74R 4 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    FUNFACT: The hole in the middle of the cd/cdi is the same size of the dutch(FL) coin of 10 cents .... a choice by Philips when deciding how big the hole in the middle shoud be.

    • @thatguyontheright1
      @thatguyontheright1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      What about the Laserdisc hole? Phillips made Laserdisc too.

    • @williamreid6255
      @williamreid6255 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      And guess what led up to the CD originally being a max of 74 minutes long? Beethoven’s 9th symphony.

    • @taududeblobber221
      @taududeblobber221 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@williamreid6255 i think someone debunked that

    • @yaralaterveer
      @yaralaterveer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nowadays even the €0,01 coin is slightly too big to git on the hole😂 (yes I just tested that)

  • @Auxodium
    @Auxodium 4 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    These potential copyright strikes on a channel like this is for audio and video is utterly ridiculous. I feel for you 8 bit Guy.

    • @74HC138
      @74HC138 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Especially as absolutely everything he's doing falls squarely under Fair Use.

    • @metaleggman18
      @metaleggman18 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      I mean any video can be copyright striked, but I think he *meant* he would get content matched and lose monetization. Afaik, when content is matched, it doesn't give a copyright strike. It either causes the video to be unplayable, unplayable in certain regions, or will lose monetization. Copyright strikes only really happen when someone manually files a copyright claim on a video, which does indeed happen, unfortunately. Copyright strikes are obviously the one that can heavily impact your channel in a ton of ways.

    • @seanhamilton4169
      @seanhamilton4169 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He should have gotten permission to use that copyrighted content that was displayed in the video!!!

    • @aoe9015
      @aoe9015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@seanhamilton4169 It is under fair use

    • @koljolat
      @koljolat 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Like the movie industry doesn't make enough money. Greed pastards.

  • @someoneontheinternet3090
    @someoneontheinternet3090 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I remember when I got my Sega CD I went around to all of the music stores and asked for CD+G albums and no one had any idea what I was talking about

    • @davidoconnor2020
      @davidoconnor2020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I did exactly them same thing, never found any.

  • @RubenvanKuik
    @RubenvanKuik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    The irony of watching this on a Philips 31.5" 4K monitor.

  • @WrestlingWithGaming
    @WrestlingWithGaming 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Thanks again for letting me be a small part of the video. I appreciate it!

    • @The8BitGuy
      @The8BitGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thank you for being a part of it! You're parts made the video better as a whole!

  • @JORGETECHJorge
    @JORGETECHJorge 4 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    "Hotel Mario... The cutscenes aren't all that great". I think the cutscenes are actually the best part of the game.

    • @JasontheFolf
      @JasontheFolf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      *I HOPE YOU MADE LOTS OF SPAGHETTI!*

    • @ScottishLeaguehero764
      @ScottishLeaguehero764 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      LUIGI LOOK!

    • @adrianzanoli
      @adrianzanoli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      did U finished the game?

    • @davidv776
      @davidv776 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Well, in a certain way, they're oddly attractive, well, they're atrocious... But you probably enjoy to see how bad they are... I happened to me back then... Watch the intro scenes, and say, "what a pile of garbage"... However, not being able to skip them, not wanting to skip them either...
      Some kind of sadomasochist taste... Heh...

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's like a train wreck in the best way.

  • @Kylefassbinderful
    @Kylefassbinderful 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    9:16 I remember most DVD players _not_ being capable of playing VCD's. I remember in 2002 we finally got a new Sony model to replace our horrible KLH player and it had VCD compatibility. I was in love with it because I had a lot of low quality Simpsons episodes and I would use Nero to burn them to VCD's and watch them whenever. We were 4 years away from getting a DVD burner. Nero was great because it allowed you to make your own menus for VCD's albeit they were limited, no cursor support, you could place 9 choices on a menu (VCD's could only fit so much anyways) and each was assigned a number but with clever graphic tricks you could make some really nice looking menus.

    • @paulrolfe4599
      @paulrolfe4599 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember using nero as well, to make Photo CD's , VCD's and burn music CD's , fantastic software

    • @SoyLuciano
      @SoyLuciano 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Fun fact: VCDs are popular in most Asian countries (e.g. Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapora, China and the Philippines).

    • @lobsterwhisperer7932
      @lobsterwhisperer7932 หลายเดือนก่อน

      the first dvd players in general were hit or miss in regards to reliability

  • @CaesarNeptuneStudios
    @CaesarNeptuneStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    The soundtrack on the 2D Zelda CDi games is actually really good and is a thing many people overlook. Check it out it’s really cool and the best part of the game.

    • @jetfrog4574
      @jetfrog4574 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And the Gameplay!

  • @sakarik6527
    @sakarik6527 4 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    13:48
    "you missed that one, try another"

    • @poble
      @poble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      nice schüt

    • @ioratv
      @ioratv 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      th-cam.com/video/4XXMs3FO50M/w-d-xo.html

    • @ghoulbuster1
      @ghoulbuster1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      vineErnhern try another

    • @Isaacandjed
      @Isaacandjed 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      jermaPluto

    • @Magestig
      @Magestig 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm glad that I'm not the only one who thought of this!

  • @Cole-xq2tl
    @Cole-xq2tl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    "Lamp oil, rope, bombs. You want it, it's yours my friend, as long as you have enough rupees"

    • @Cole-xq2tl
      @Cole-xq2tl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      "This peace is what all true warriors strive for."

    • @poble
      @poble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "sorry link, I can't give credit. come back when you're a little, HMMMMMMM, richer."

    • @RECTANGLESWITHEYES
      @RECTANGLESWITHEYES 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ah, Morshu..

    • @aquathemage1680
      @aquathemage1680 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Lucky shot!"

    • @Ordlnary_Gamer
      @Ordlnary_Gamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      dopy

  • @Andersljungberg
    @Andersljungberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember that they showed video on one of these in a store and and I was very impressed with the pure colors in the picture. much cleaner colors than on VHS and even live analogue TV. in Europe, Philips used scart RGB. thus a cable connection that separated red green and blue. And of course the TV would have a black screen and the screen would be flat

    • @C64C
      @C64C 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      A SCART cable also has pins for composite and S-video signals. Some cables don't even have all of the 21 pins connected - if the source was VHS, for example, it doesn't matter because the cable/connector can't make the original source signal any better.
      With DVD you could get true RGB signal, so the high-quality SCART cable is needed (if one doesn't go with component video, VGA or HDMI of course).

  • @nintendude85
    @nintendude85 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    I remember music with graphics was attempted again in the mid 2000s with DVD audio. It was supposed to have surround sound, lyrics, and often music videos. I remember when Weird Al's album "Straight Outta Lynnwood" came in the short lived "Dual Disc" format, where one side was the CD and the other DVD-A. Pretty sure I only used the DVD side once. I hated that format and was glad it died. It didn't work in some CD players, and it felt heavier than an average disc so I'm sure it caused extra strain on the players that it did work in. Ended up burning a 1:1 copy of the CD side so I could play it in more devices. Dave if you ever want to do a video on the DualDisc format I'll gladly provide you some material lol.

    • @X_Baron
      @X_Baron 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Weird Al seems to have been somewhat of a pioneer in weird new formats.

    • @sinisterone4673
      @sinisterone4673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Enhanced cds lol… I have a lot of those and never once utilized it lol

    • @sinisterone4673
      @sinisterone4673 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@X_Baron well he is Weird 🤣

  • @iluvpwny7565
    @iluvpwny7565 4 ปีที่แล้ว +697

    one day there will be a youtube channel named "The 64-bit Guy"
    when everyone else using quantum computer

    • @adrianzanoli
      @adrianzanoli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      And there will be a "Quantic bit guy" when computers will be "MEME energy powered"

    • @loganiushere
      @loganiushere 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Adrian Zanoli hmm... how much power can you harvest from memes?
      I mean a funny meme will make you laugh, and laughing takes energy, so could you show people memes to make them laugh, then harvest the energy they spend while laughing and use that to power a computer?
      It’s probably the least efficent way you could ever harvest energy, but it’s possible.

    • @KohuGaly
      @KohuGaly 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@adrianzanoli wait, your computer isn't powered by memes yet? Do you work in a museum or something?

    • @oddthecat3561
      @oddthecat3561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or will have "The8BitGuy Daughter" doing this.

    • @AnonymousGentooman
      @AnonymousGentooman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      you reminded me of that avgn scene, where he sees an elderly version of him playing bad wii games, and poking fun at the wii

  • @pronintendogamer3123
    @pronintendogamer3123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    Mario: Nice of the princess to invite us over for a picnic, eh, Luigi?
    Luigi: I hope she made lots of spaghetti!

    • @Moviesxp
      @Moviesxp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Mario:Hey Peach!
      Peach:hi. *gives spaghetti and PIZZA PIE*

    • @ZeldagigafanMatthew
      @ZeldagigafanMatthew 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ALL TOASTERS TOAST TOAST!

    • @ConorDaRobin
      @ConorDaRobin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mario: Luigi, look!

    • @user-gk4jp6lt2b
      @user-gk4jp6lt2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      *In earrape*
      NICE OF THE PRINCESS TO INVITE US OVER FOR A PICNIC *_GAY_* LUIGI?
      I HOPE SHE MADE LOSTA SPAGHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEETI

    • @amandelli7778
      @amandelli7778 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With Spicy Meatballs! 😁

  • @bigdog8302
    @bigdog8302 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    SVCD comes to mind. From what I remember it was somewhat popular over in Asia, had a resolution of 480x480, the video was encoded using MPEG-2, and it was produced on CD media.

  • @coskuarsiray
    @coskuarsiray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    yours is one of the best channels on youtube. thanks for the effort spent here.

  • @JoSephGD
    @JoSephGD 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    "Nice of the 8-Bit Guy to make a video about the CDi, eh Luigi?"
    "I hope he includes us in the video!"

    • @nathangitz2674
      @nathangitz2674 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Luigi, look!"
      (Gets the letter on the wall)
      "It's from TH-cam!"

  • @Kylefassbinderful
    @Kylefassbinderful 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    I remember my Weird Al - Running with scissors CD had a like short movie on it and I watched it over and over again. ALSO: Back in 1999 I had a Power Mac 6100 w/DOS card and in order to play mpeg videos I used the Weird Al CD. The CD had a Quicktime MPEG extension (in order to play movies) and I copied it to the extensions folder in MacOS. I remember using random CD-ROM's for the extensions that they came with. You have to remember that in the 80's and 90's a lot of Mac formatted CD-ROM's were also start up discs because even back then hard drives and plenty of storage space were not in everyone's computer. Those System Folders on those discs were awesome cause you could copy them and boot up your mac with a burned CD or external SCSI Iomega Zip and Jazz drives. [crying like a baby] "I miss my old Macintosh collection"

    • @bobblum5973
      @bobblum5973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have that Weird Al CD with the SECRET FILE! folder/directory. I was excited when I found it myself (kind of like when I found the undocumented MS-DOS command TRUENAME).

    • @syloui
      @syloui 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those random System Folders found on CDs i used to be able to get from the library were a godsend for troubleshooting when I tinkered a little too much as a kid. Collecting different versions of extensions included with software and trying all of them out was a fun past time

    • @mikel6989
      @mikel6989 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Korn life is peachy album has the adidas video on it, pretty awesome discovery, made me go thru all my cds back in the day and tried them on my computer trying to find something else

    • @danieldaniels7571
      @danieldaniels7571 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mike L what I hate is how many of those have programs that just play songs or videos off websites that ceased to exist years ago and are now completely useless

    • @Kylefassbinderful
      @Kylefassbinderful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@syloui DUDE! me too, I would bring home another old macintosh system and use some random CD or CD-ROM as a boot disc. I remember when I came across the Quicktime-MPEG extension. I was so stoked cause I was now able to watch videos on my mac. I think I had the PowerMac 6100/66 with the DOS card and Windows 95 on it at some point. Apple's OS were so easy to install and troubleshoot, lol that all changed with OS X.

  • @atarileaf
    @atarileaf 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I loved that Information Society album. Since I was a big Star Trek fan I loved that they incorporated lines from the old series in their songs

  • @nixfishing3951
    @nixfishing3951 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man whenever I’m feeling down, I love watching your videos, keep up the good work👍

  • @antdude
    @antdude 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I remember seeing a CD-i in my high school's art class. My teacher used it to show art stuff. Heh, a few people played video games on it. I remember its TV ads.

  • @blakegriplingph
    @blakegriplingph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    VCDs were quite popular in Asia during the 90s to early 2000s. I remember my dad owning a shoddy little Chinese VCD player once. It was multi-standard and defaulted to PAL iirc which we had to switch to NTSC as that was the standard we're using. Karaoke discs were pretty common, with the stereo audio being cleverly used for separating vocals from the instrumental, and yeah bootlegs were also all the rage - these were pressed ones made in illicit replicating plants instead of burned ones in later years. While the format was largely ignored in the States due to it being overshadowed by DVD, here in Asia it was cheap and readily available. Apparently people at the time didn't mind coming in front of the TV just so they could swap discs which would be even more inconvenient if it was a longer epic such as _Titanic_ or _Lord of the Rings._

  • @cvbabc
    @cvbabc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is one of the great things about 8-Bit Guy, he researches and compiles an entertaining video about the history of something I wouldn't ordinarily care about.

  • @shibolinemress8913
    @shibolinemress8913 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your intro music; it's so bright and cheery, and always makes me smile! 🙂👍

  • @MatthewWaltonWalton
    @MatthewWaltonWalton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    I remember an art lesson where the teacher wheeled out a TV on a trolley with a CD-i player and showed us a number of paintings on a Photo CD to explain a few things. Would work better today with a big screen and HD but it was just about sufficient at the time! Very slow navigation though, I remember that. I guess that would've been around 1994 or 1995.

    • @CODMarioWarfare
      @CODMarioWarfare 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Laserdisc was often used in this role as well. When I got a couple of LD players that were lying around my high school, it came with CAV disks, each frame of which was a photo for the science teacher to display on the TV.

    • @MatthewWaltonWalton
      @MatthewWaltonWalton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@CODMarioWarfare the only time I've ever seen a laserdisc was the player for the Domesday project for which it was the data storage format - it being a bit before the CD-ROM. A cunning mixture of data and video content, those things. And so big and shiny! I was much impressed.

    • @danieldaniels7571
      @danieldaniels7571 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      CODMarioWarfare I used to have an encyclopedia on a LaserDisc that worked like that.

  • @octoman_games
    @octoman_games 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I remember the show "Double Dare" on Nickolodeon had a Maganavox CD-i version for the winners back in the 90's

  • @JRthepyroguy
    @JRthepyroguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos 8-bit guy. Very educational. Thank you.

  • @paulclarke8184
    @paulclarke8184 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey! You showed a clip of the "Atlantis: The Last Resort" game, which I wrote when I worked at Philips Research Labs in Redhill, UK. Glad you showed that as it was very fun and very challenging to write!!!

  • @MitchellShilling
    @MitchellShilling 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    14:17 I used to love Richard Scarry growing up, mainly because of Busytown! :D

  • @JessHull
    @JessHull 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    OMG you answered a life long question I always had. I remember playing Tetris at a block buster demo station when I was a kid and I thought it was so cool with its realistic background and nice music. and I never knew what console that was and years later assumed it was PS1, well a couple years later when I got a PS1 I bought several tetris' trying to find that one but never did and eventually gave up. But now I know!

  • @darojax
    @darojax 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Your videos are really great, thanks!

  • @MrHristoB
    @MrHristoB 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This was an amazing and exciting back in the days, I've had a chance to use a full Philips set when I lived in The Netherlands around 1997, CD-i, TV, receiver and all bells and whistles. Brings great memories.. Thank you for mentioning it!!!

  • @TonyHoyle
    @TonyHoyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I remember working on the early versions of Cluedo (Clue in the US). It was a horrid system to work on.. It was unmodified OS/9 and the tools were very immature, we basically had to rewrite everything from the CD mastering software to the SDK because the supplied stuff from philips was.. bad..
    In those days to burn a CD (a blank cost £50) you had to master it to raw* format and send it directly to the burner (from a Sun Workstation supplied by Philips, no internet back then though).. which was bolted to an external wall to stop vibration, and if a lorry went past it'd destroy the burn.. we wasted a *lot* of money on bad burns.
    When I left we were still working on trying to get the board (a graphic about 4 times bigger than the memory!) to stream piecemeal off the drive without it stuttering. No idea if they ever fixed that.. I've never actually seen a finished version.
    * Really raw - you had to prescramble it.. data on a CD isn't written the way it's read, the bits are moved around to help reliability, there are prescribed inter block and gaps, etc. When a modern CD talks about 'raw' reading they're not really at all, since that layer is built in to the hardware now.

    • @TonyHoyle
      @TonyHoyle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I'm surprised it was so heavily marketed in the US... never saw an advert for it in the UK, it mostly sat around in the back of Tandy next to the CD+G machine.
      By the time I stopped working on it CD-ROM was starting to become a thing, and although it still required expensive video decoders (and eyebleedingly expensive encoding - remember PCs couldn't even decode at the time let alone encode, so you had to send video off to agencies to have it encoded) it was kind of obvious where the market was going.

    • @anthonybradley1555
      @anthonybradley1555 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      hi i just want to say for all the difficulties in producing the cluedo games they were really good for their times and whoever cast the live action scenes got really good actors like joan simms and angus mcinnes . i seem to recall was in a game for british petroleum making the grade??? i used to have that years ago although it never worked well on my cdi.

  • @cllewis1
    @cllewis1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    11:17 - David (along with all of us) has forgotten how leisurely front-load VHS players' loading merchanisms were.

    • @EricLS
      @EricLS 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Chris Lewis yeah, he was jamming that sucker in there lol.

    • @vwestlife
      @vwestlife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      On some VCRs you have to push in the tape almost all the way by hand, while on others all you need to do is give it a slight nudge and then it will automatically pull the tape is. Looks like he was used to the former type but was using the latter type of VCR.

    • @jaakkopontinen
      @jaakkopontinen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hehe true. Just let the machine do it's robotic stuff. Awesome devices!

  • @luisluiscunha
    @luisluiscunha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    BurnCycle was amazing. And the Art titles were very, very, good: Harvest of the Sun, for example. It had its time. We were lucky to have the experience in the 90s, and being here to remmember, in the 2020's.

  • @davidburton5646
    @davidburton5646 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your vidz bro, keep up the good work!!!

  • @Retro_Sorcerer
    @Retro_Sorcerer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I literally bought a CDI yesterday, cannot wait for it to arrive.

    • @fattiger6957
      @fattiger6957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Did you make sure it works. Apparently CDi's are notorious for not lasting this long. Apparently some of the components (maybe the capacitors or the on board battery) are prone to degrade.

    • @Retro_Sorcerer
      @Retro_Sorcerer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fattiger6957 Apparently the tray and spindle need repair, but that's a simple fix. I think its always more fun to have a project though as opposed to something that works straight out of the box. I'm dreading the timer chip repair though.

    • @Retro_Sorcerer
      @Retro_Sorcerer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @João Maverick A Phillips cd-i 210.

  • @gab_v250
    @gab_v250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

    CD-i: is mentioned
    the Nintendo games that became and endless source of YTPs and memes: whomst has awaken the ancient ones

    • @linkfreeman1998
      @linkfreeman1998 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh yes. I could remember that. Even I used a very little bit of it in my own very first YTP. And would probably stay that way as I actually like Link.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nintendo actually had nothing to do with them. They simply licensed the characters (not the series, but the characters) to Phillips as part of their agreement to develop a CD addon for the SNES. That's why the games don't use The Legend of Zelda, or Super Mario Bros names. They didn't have the rights to that. They only had the rights to Link, Zelda, Mario, Luigi, and Peach IIRC. Just the characters themselves. And Nintendo had zero involvement in the games.

  • @8wealthyone8
    @8wealthyone8 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent show. Please make more. Your good!

  • @ssdravidian
    @ssdravidian 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love the intro song that you have for your channel !!!!!

  • @henryatkinson1479
    @henryatkinson1479 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Last time I was this early the airport still was an integral part of your network...

  • @xenaretos
    @xenaretos 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    And VCDs stayed for a long time in the Asian market. I still have a few bought in India in 2004 (and it didn't feel like they were getting obsolete at that time - just a cheaper common alternative to DVDs).

  • @jdaywork2693
    @jdaywork2693 ปีที่แล้ว

    Neat to hear in detail more about this unit!

  • @adamatkinson2728
    @adamatkinson2728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    "What were they thinking!?!?"

    • @haruhisuzumiya6650
      @haruhisuzumiya6650 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ask Nintendo

    • @newtype5005
      @newtype5005 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      AVGN reference?

    • @adamatkinson2728
      @adamatkinson2728 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@newtype5005 Finally!

    • @burntyper
      @burntyper 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@newtype5005 no, mao tse tung's

    • @user-gk4jp6lt2b
      @user-gk4jp6lt2b 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TH-cam Poop. Where there’s smoke, they pitch back.

  • @Desmk2312
    @Desmk2312 4 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    8-bit guy Made video about Philips Cd-i
    My brain:
    *I h o p e s h e M a d e l o t s o f s p a g h e t t i !*

  • @makaylaserniotti1474
    @makaylaserniotti1474 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Ah yes, exactly what I needed during my self isolation. Thank you David!

  • @Sedokun
    @Sedokun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    "It was never really intended to be a video game console...It was supposed to be a media center for your living room. Sort of like XBox One of the day." (c)

  • @robindegroot7944
    @robindegroot7944 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It was so cool to see these games again on the CDi. I can still recall renting it in a local video rental store in the Netherlands a couple of weekends.

  • @JeanLoupRSmith
    @JeanLoupRSmith 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    OH my, so many memories. The CD-i was my de-facto "computer" / games console when I was in my late teens. That was the time before Desktop PCs were a little more affordable. Even then the unit was rather expensive when it was purchased for me as a present. When I think about how much it was sold for at a flea market a few years ago just to clear out space at my parents' house, it makes me cry a little bit inside. And no, it wouldn't have been realistic for me to hang on to it, despite the memories.
    And as pointed out, it wasn't just a gaming platform. I had some other more educational CD-is which were great like a guitar learning disc I forgot the name of, I had an encyclopedia I think and a video CD of Queen's music videos from Greatest Hits 1 and 2. My favourite game was Flashback, which is a sequel to Another World. One of the few games I actually finished. There was some kind of dinosaur one I can't recall the name of (Lost Eden, had to google it) which was quite good, and yes some others were not as good but it was a fun diverse platform.
    Can't disagree on the controller though, it was rather poor. Though mine was slimmer than the one you demonstrated, probably because it was a continental Europe model, which also used the SCART socket system at the back instead of those antenna ports (I think).
    Thanks for this episode Dave, that was a good trip down memory lane :)

    • @JopieHaargel
      @JopieHaargel 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I played Lost Eden on pc! Thought it was great back then, but when I recently watched a let's play of it, I realized it has not aged gracefully...

    • @goclunker
      @goclunker 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jean-Loup Rebours-Smith i feel sorry for you

    • @JeanLoupRSmith
      @JeanLoupRSmith 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goclunker lol, why exactly?

    • @danieldaniels7571
      @danieldaniels7571 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did the Queen disc allow you to interact with the music, or was it just music videos on a VCD? I ask because Peter Gabriel and Todd Rundgren each put out actual CD-i specific releases where you were able to interact with and manipulate the music and video.

    • @JeanLoupRSmith
      @JeanLoupRSmith 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@danieldaniels7571 As far as I recall they were just a catalogue of their music videos, no interaction there. I do remember something from Peter Gabriel now that you mention it though

  • @RestlessYankee
    @RestlessYankee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    CD+G was much more common for karaoke, and is still used for that to this day.

  • @kandigloss6438
    @kandigloss6438 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for that link to the CDG museum, watched a bit of Firesign Theater's Eat or be Eaten, that's a trip, lol

  • @matthewJ142
    @matthewJ142 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have such a cool CD collection!

  • @compyislife
    @compyislife 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I'd just like to point out that, like Dragon's Lair, Mad Dog Mccree was in the arcade first. Thanks for this comprehensive and admirably objective look at the CD-i, I learned a lot.

  • @Coderjo.
    @Coderjo. 4 ปีที่แล้ว +180

    "VHS was incapable of S-video by its very nature". This isn't true. It's just that most players didn't have the port. The signal is recorded on the tape as separate luma and chroma signals (as separate FM signals being recorded through the same head), though, and a Super-VHS deck can certainly output those from a normal VHS tape. (As can some higher-end VHS decks that may be out there)

    • @danieldaniels7571
      @danieldaniels7571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      Coderjo yeah, that was a “wait, what” moment for me as well. The s-video standard was originally made for VHS. Almost every VCR I’ve owned since S-VHS has that port and it helps greatly with standard VHS tapes depending on the TV.

    • @TheDrunkenPL
      @TheDrunkenPL 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      There are more bulls**t facts in this video unfortunately :/

    • @FinalBaton
      @FinalBaton 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @Coderjo while chroma and luma are stored separately on VHS, their bandwith is so low that there's no gain to be made. Besides, what's used as source here is a composite video one, so even though it's stored separately on the tape, it's still for all intense and purposes, composite video. because the deck sees composite video and it then separates it for storage. It's not as if you're inputing S-video on the tape... even if you use an S-video input. The best VHS players players do not even have S-Video output. If we look at the reference, which is probably Sony's SVO line of broadcast-grade decks, the SuperVHS models do not produce as good a picture as the standard deck equipped with composite only. for regular VHS tapes.

    • @Andersljungberg
      @Andersljungberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Super VHS = S-VHS

    • @Andersljungberg
      @Andersljungberg 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      s -VHS output had the purpose of getting higher resolution in the TV from super VHS tapes . At that time, many televisions had bad filters, which may have resulted in a resolution of 330 lines. although the most exclusive televisions they had something called digital comb filter that could provide up to 380 line resolution in practice. And the difference you saw in the test image. now it could even say the smallest pattern in the test image. even super VHS recorders had comb filters in their tuners

  • @Ss0oUuLl
    @Ss0oUuLl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    14:40 "the original NES version is probably my favourite" *cough* Electronica 60M *cough*

  • @daemonspudguy
    @daemonspudguy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:14
    64 Commodore Lane. That's beautiful

  • @Boojakascha
    @Boojakascha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Loved the video, Dave!
    But I am afraid you still have a misconception about VHS. It stores luma and chroma separate. You can indeed output it as s-video, it's not "impossible." Apart from S-VHS devices there were other VHS devices with s-video output such as Hi8/VHS tandem machines. The Sony SLV-T2000MN is a good example. What you mean to say is that the compression on chroma is very high, and that quality at the source is similar for composite video and what is obtainable from VHS. Outputting it through real world cables and mixing signals (!) in one case is a totally different story. The whole concept of component video signals, to which s-video also belongs, relies in keeping signals separate.

    • @SianaGearz
      @SianaGearz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Saying that luma and chroma are separate is stupid and wrong. They are part of one single signal on VHS and on SVHS both, just like composite.
      However on composite, chroma is encoded on top of luma, corresponding to the broadcast format, but downconverted for channel independence. On VHS and SVHS, this encoding would not be stable or suitable, so it's the other way around, called colour-under, the luma signal is upshifted on top of chroma instead. So indeed S-Video connection for both VHS and S-VHS makes technical sense, since it allows to avoid merging and separating these signals an extra couple times.

    • @danieldaniels7571
      @danieldaniels7571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, he lost me there too. All high end VHS VCRs has S-Video output on them, and anyone who had decent home theater systems back then knew it made a noticeable difference to use it.

    • @FinalBaton
      @FinalBaton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Boojakascha while chroma and luma are stored separately on VHS, their bandwith is so low that there's no gain to be made. Besides, what's used as source here is a composite video one, so even though it's stored separately on the tape, it's still for all intense and purposes, composite video. because the deck sees composite video and it then separates it for storage. It's not as if you're inputing S-video on the tape... even if you use an S-video input. The best VHS players players do not even have S-Video output. If we look at the reference, which is probably Sony's SVO line of broadcast-grade decks, the SuperVHS models do not produce as good a picture as the standard deck equipped with composite only. for regular VHS tapes.

    • @Boojakascha
      @Boojakascha 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@FinalBaton Luma has a high bandwith. VHS tapes were also used to store PC data on Luma.

    • @FinalBaton
      @FinalBaton 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Boojakascha its still pretty low bandwith, compared to a full luma signal like that of SVideo. I think it's like halved OTTOMH. My point still stands : SVideo outputs on VCRs do not make good use of the color under separate storage of VHS. They don't look better than composite out from a reference broadcast VCR.

  • @jputtrexx
    @jputtrexx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I remember they had a tent set up for the CDi at the second Wooodstock, I still have the badge they gave out.

  • @shanekeulen4874
    @shanekeulen4874 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My parents brought home the magnavox branded version. And I think I’m total we had maybe 5 discs for it. I used the encyclopedia a lot for homework.

  • @MrPopo-vr9gw
    @MrPopo-vr9gw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These Video CDs were pretty much ubiquitous here in India all the way up till the early 2010s, especially in the smaller towns. Every movie both local and international was released here on VCDs and there was even a massive bootlegging scene with police crackdowns happening often. You had a VCD shop on every corner in the early 2000s where you could rent movies for just a meagre amount. Then you also had the local bootlegger guy who would get you the latest movie CAM prints straight to your home. I had even amassed quite a collection of video CDs during my childhood. So watching this video gave me quite a massive hit of nostalgia.

  • @daakrolb
    @daakrolb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    I remember it so well also! So “advanced!” Such cutting edge tech! Magical! But what a fail... too fancy and expensive for its day...

    • @puppetmaster634
      @puppetmaster634 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Ok

    • @BavarianM
      @BavarianM 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Lassi Kinnunen Hmmm the games look great on my 29inch Trinitron
      I'm enjoying it alot

    • @ocelot_the_dragon
      @ocelot_the_dragon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@puppetmaster634 why do people like you even comment on anything? It’s beyond the bare minimum, and you offer absolutely nothing

    • @yaboidustin2447
      @yaboidustin2447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ocelot_the_dragon true. If you don't have something to add then just don't comment

  • @Claro1993
    @Claro1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The thing about Video CDs, just like laserdiscs didn’t took off in America but was hugely successful in Asia, in-fact you can still buy contemporary movies on the format to this day.

    • @digiowl9599
      @digiowl9599 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I seem to recall the vcd and svcd was briefly popular in piracy circles before xvid came along and did to video what mp3 did to music...

  • @antdavisonNZ
    @antdavisonNZ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I authoured CD-i content in the 90s. Development platform was a single board Amiga CPU/computer-on-a- full length daughterboard and OS housed inside an Apple Mac. At that time, we worked on MS-DOS and windows PC's running a DOS version of 3DStudio and a windows version of Photoshop, so a bit of file shuffling and required the use of three or four different OS'es and multiple cross platform networking which was rare, slow, and expensive at the time. Specifying FMV locations from a video stream was a nightmare ... you specified the in and out points via hex offset, and you had to build the CD-i image to check that ... so it took a looooong time to authour interactive video content ... bleeding edge at the time. The PAL players we used had a SCART-RGB output, so output quality was better than the NTSC s-video only models

  • @djwice8171
    @djwice8171 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Actually the photo format on a cd-i was really brilliant : it contained one foto in different sizes in one file. The smallest first. And the cool thing was that the next up in size was actually only adding pixels to the smaller one. And so on.
    So you get more and more detail the longer you wait. And can see the full image quickly in raw format.
    Really concept that I didn't see back in most new image formats.

    • @CrushedAsian255
      @CrushedAsian255 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So it’s basically progressive decoding? Neat!

  • @rizkaarifiandi5670
    @rizkaarifiandi5670 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    i remember that GameSack also praised CD-i's Tetris, because of the Yani's music hahaha

  • @polaris911
    @polaris911 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I used to make VCDs back in the day and play them on my DVD player. Fun fact: since DVDs are encoded with MPEG-2, some DVD players even supported non-standard VCDs encoded in MPEG-2, meaning better picture quality than a standard MPEG-1 VCD.

    • @The8BitGuy
      @The8BitGuy  4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Indeed. I used to make VCDs as well so I could play movies on my DVD player. And yes, I made the "XVCD" as well, which used twice the resolution and MPEG2 since my player supported it.

    • @VladoT
      @VladoT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I remember when DVD players started to support MPEG4 DivX encoded CDs, it was a DVD quality movie on a CD. However in recent years I see full HD movie of Bluray quality fit on a single CD by using mkv matroshka codec, I don't know how is this even possible.

    • @GBOAC
      @GBOAC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      those were called SVCD's

  • @McRocket
    @McRocket ปีที่แล้ว

    I enjoyed this.
    I previously knew nothing of OR had forgotten about it.
    Thank you.

  • @HanZie82
    @HanZie82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh man i can remember that device. A buddy had one.
    We did play alot of them shooting game(s) with the light-gun, and i can remember seeing That wrestler dude.
    It was so much ahead of its time, its unthinkable now.
    But mostly it was used over other devices because the amount of Dutch language games were amazing for that device.
    Awesome video, love the in depth look and also the guests telling their story was a nice welcome surprise.

  • @dangoswick
    @dangoswick 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yep, I had that Fleetwood Mac CD and somehow played it back then, maybe with my PS1.

  • @linksmith1057
    @linksmith1057 4 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    For more details on all these different CD standards, the Technology Connections channel has an excellent video on all the different rainbow book standards.

  • @LowgaenSchmidt
    @LowgaenSchmidt 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My mother had one of these and she picked up lots of interesting games that I used to spend hours messing around with. They included that Tetris and Richard Scarry game you showed, but I also played ones that had Sesame Street, the Berenstain Bears, and the rage-inducing Wacky World of Miniature Golf with Eugene Levy. Also checked out stuff on the Treasures of the Smithsonian and Philips Golden Oldies Jukebox discs as well.

  • @jshrawder49
    @jshrawder49 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow that was a blast form the past. Lol great vlog!! Thanks for doing all these videos.

  • @GeorgTheGr8
    @GeorgTheGr8 4 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    If only this technology had been more successful, we'd have a sequel to the award winning CD-i Zelda by now.

    • @pqrstzxerty1296
      @pqrstzxerty1296 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It did it was sold and became the playstation one

    • @Gideon_Judges6
      @Gideon_Judges6 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Weren't there already 2 of them?

    • @-taz-
      @-taz- 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If you want a worthy sequel, just take a dump in a paper bag.

    • @masync183
      @masync183 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Gideon_Judges6 yep only 2 and no more, theres no need to look for anything else because there were only ever 2

    • @GiordanDiodato
      @GiordanDiodato 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

      well we have a spiritual successor now

  • @AlienFrequency
    @AlienFrequency 4 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I remember wanting this thing as a kid, until I saw the price.

  • @quailstevens8150
    @quailstevens8150 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you so much for this video! Especially the part where you talked about Mad Dog MCcree! I had wondered for years what that game was, I had played it when I went to Disney World back in the 90’s and I could never remember the name of the game! Many thanks!!

  • @Da_80s_Ruled
    @Da_80s_Ruled 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video! i loved my Cd-i back in the 90's Space Ace and Battleship were my favourites.
    There was a high end game coming out before the CDi died called "down in the dumps" but got cancelled by Philips.

  • @poble
    @poble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    "nice of the princess to invite us over for a picnic, gay luigi?"

    • @TonHet1
      @TonHet1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Luigi, look. It's from Bowser.

    • @gab_v250
      @gab_v250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@TonHet1 Dear pesky plumbers, the Koopalings and I have taken over this Kingdom

    • @philipperossel1888
      @philipperossel1888 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@gab_v250 The princess is now a permanent guest at one of my seven Koopa hotels! I dare you to find her if you can!

    • @poble
      @poble 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @DiamondDude11 [Puro] and you've gotta help us!

    • @tohopes
      @tohopes 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      IF YOU NEED INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO GET THROUGH THE HOTELS, CHECK OUT THE ENCLOSED INSTRUCTION BOOK.

  • @dykodesigns
    @dykodesigns 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I think CD-I was a novel concept but a bit too early for the market. I’ve never considered it to be a game console, but more as an edutainment system. I tend to see it as a prototype for DVD, the movies on CD where a good idea, as DVD proved to be very successful. Just like the commodore CDTV, the storage capacity of CD-roms offered a lot of potential but developers did not really know how to use it effectively as they where sort of testing the waters. The Sega Mega CD’s best feature in my opinion is the red book CD audio which when used well can really enhance the game like for instance Ecco the dolphin. But the playstation proved that optical media where inevitably the future, a boat that Nintendo missed out on in that transitional era.When I first saw CD-I players, they where demonstrated in book stores with the Roller ball controller attached to it featuring some educational titles. As a kid I was quite fascinated by it. To me it did not appear as game console but more as a system for other types of games (primarily edutainment). It wasn't until around 1995 that I noticed Philips promoting it more as a games system. Sadly it's interactive multimedia features where not really carried over to DVD, maybe this was intentional? Oddly enough Blue ray disc has a Java based scripting Language that could replicated most (if not all) of CD-I's features but are not really utilised by publishers.

    • @dustinbrueggemann1875
      @dustinbrueggemann1875 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Based on another comment from a former CD-I developer, it seems that developers weren't uncertain how to utilize it, but rather prevented from pushing the limits of the device by way of the requirement for indefinite hardware backwards compatibility as part of the format standards. This device could have easily been the PlayStation had Phillips allowed for more growth in the format.

    • @Toonrick12
      @Toonrick12 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was also the time where technology was really becoming more advanced year after year. As you said the problem was that a CD-i from 1995 is the same system as one from 1991. If you look at computers at the time, that 4 year gap is HUGE. 386 to Pentiums, RAM increasing at least four-fold, Hard Drives starting to go into the Gigabyte range, etc.

  • @deepblue8143
    @deepblue8143 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video guys. I agree 100% regarding the Tetris port. On kind of a fun note I wanted to mention that I have the Phillips CD-i Tetris soundtrack on vinyl. It is one of my favorite records in my collection. Just nothing but pure 90's nostalgia, great calming music.

    • @briank6534
      @briank6534 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's a gem of a record. I have those songs burned into my brain.

  • @1nzgninja
    @1nzgninja 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heya from New Zealand clint, stuck at home buiding socket 7/slot 1 dos machines with your inspiration..love the vids, keep up the good work! stay safe..

  • @ctrlaltrees
    @ctrlaltrees 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:54 Explaining how we got our films developed in the 90s... Now I feel old!

  • @willierants5880
    @willierants5880 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    14:59 - For just a brief moment I thought you were going to amaze us with an "S" spin. LOL ;)

  • @BabyGonzo5
    @BabyGonzo5 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a CDi player in the attic. Light Gun and controller. Mad dog and a few film’s. Films were excellent quality and sound.

  • @aiartbydondon
    @aiartbydondon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video. I always tried this console out on Blockbuster when they had them on display.

  • @kenm2709
    @kenm2709 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You are one the last people in my reality still producing wholesome content, thank you David.

  • @brewHamm
    @brewHamm 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    *_Nice of the princess to invite us over for a picnic at Micro Center, eh Luigi?_*
    *_I hope she made lots of computers!_*
    *_Luigi, look! It's from GameStop!_*
    *_"Dear Pesky Plumbers, the Koopalings and I have taken over the Mushroom Kingdom. The princess is now a permanent guest at one of my seven Koopa GameStops. I dare you to find her if you can!"_*
    *_We gotta find the Princess!_*
    *_And you gotta help us!_*

    • @randylawrence6077
      @randylawrence6077 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      We forgot The Good Guys, Circuit City & Comp USA!

  • @f.k.b.16
    @f.k.b.16 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    CD plus Graphics was something I remember most about my SEGA CD! It came with a demo of CD+G including the Information Society song you played. My favorite part was Spock saying "pure energy". (Well at least I think it was Spock)
    Ahhh them some good times.

    • @StormsparkPegasus
      @StormsparkPegasus 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, they indeed sampled Spock saying "pure energy" from a Star Trek TOS episode for that song. I'm NOT a fan of sampling in songs like that.

  • @yalsonnoorcahayapratama3775
    @yalsonnoorcahayapratama3775 4 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    2:56 James Rolfe also complaining about these port location.