First time Mac user, I got the mid-base M4 MacBook Pro (16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Space Black). So far this has been a game changer in terms of both processing power and usage, and this is the best laptop I have ever used. Going for the base rather than the Pro means that I have enough processing power for my mid-light use cases along with the best battery life of the M4 lineup in the 14 inch. This is a laptop that truly is portable. The build quality on this thing is on a whole other level. There is nothing like it. And the integration with iPhone and Watch has been game changing for me as well, giving me the ability to do all of my communication without caring which device I use for it, even for text and calls.
@@JohnDoeJr123 I get your point, but it still has some significant advantages over the Air. The Pro has a fan, better ports, better screen and likely better battery. On balance, I think the difference is worth it.
That is indeed the sensible option for the majority of users that will never need the power of the Pro or Max. I had the same base M1 version and 3.5 years later it still beats many contemporary Windows machines and has aged well. That will serve you for as long as you need it.
"M4 Pros is for new pros" That's the best way Ive heard it described as a videographer with 10+ years running my own business. My projects have scaled to the point where I need the Max chip to chew through the caliber of work I put out. When I was just getting started I could have 100% just used the Pro chip as I learned my style, scaled up my productions and introduced multiple cameras to my larger productions. I always tell everyone that the M4 Pro is an excellent video editing and productivity chip until you're running more than 2-3 tracks of 4k footage with transitions and sound design. Anyone who says otherwise does not push their laptops as hard as they claim.
I look at the base M4 for ultrabook users that want a few extras over the Air. The M4 Pro I see for semi-pros that do not need the full monty. The M4 Max should be the default for professionals, as it has the higher RAM options and gives the best performance.
Cant say how much this video helped me, because the macbook pro M3 16" weights so much more than Macbook Air M4, that is a big difference and much cheaper, less weight
Hey music makers those who use Logic and Ableton. Do you giys use the base M4Pro or do you need more specs like 48gb RAM?? I figure if its available a refurbished M3 Pro 36 RAM and 4TB storage option should be enough.
Not sure about the RAM but I think 4tb is overkill. I'd go for 1 maybe 2tb max. And then just buy an external SSD to save the projects on. The jump from M3 to M4 is substantial. So better go for M4 and save on storage. Unless you get an insane deal on the M3. Especially considering that Ableton and Logic cannot use the efficiency cores currently. Watch the videos by James Zhan where he compares DAWs and M series
For music production in Logic, M4 Pro is far superior to M3 Pro due to the increase in performance cores. The DAW can't use efficiency cores, so you're looking at 5 or 6 functional cores with M3 Pro vs 8 or 10 functional cores on M4 Pro. It's essentially 2x more efficient! While I don't produce music professionally, I do work in Logic from time to time and got an M4 Pro chip for it. If you're looking to upgrade from the base M4 Pro, I'd recommend first getting the 14-core version for those 2 extra performance cores. Upgrade the storage to 1 or 2 TB if you're set on keeping all of your projects on the machine, but more than that is excessive and not economical when you can just put completed tracks on external storage. If you think you're going to be working with projects that use a shit ton of tracks, get the 48GB of ram, but if you're just mixing standard tracks it shouldn't be necessary. I run a VM for my job and the 48GB is needed for that, but if I was just speccing for music production I'd say 24 is plenty. Hope that helps!
Arthur, thank you for the video. As a user of mbp16m1pro, you know that it practically does not turn on fans even in the most difficult projects, only when renderings when the load on the processor is continuous. Please tell me, when working in a downloaded video editing project, plus, as you write, at the same time some other applications are open in parallel, how does the cooling system mbp14m4pro behave? How loud can the fans be heard? Judging by the specifications, 14'' laptops have a minimum fan speed almost 2 times higher than 16'' laptops.
My biggest question is how I can buy the new MB Pro with a RU keyboard and give Apple my old Air. I assume that I have to order this pro machine on the website, and then… then I don’t know what 😅 I mean you have to pay if you are ordering an unusual keyboard (I’m in Spain so it’s unusual here) but I have to give them my old machine for cutting the price…. I’m confused
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Think about Mac book pro with foldable double screen and double battery capacity with silicone carbon batteries, also with more micro nano size power efficient chip and graphics processor
MBA is just for those looking for a cheap entry point. But it’s got too many compromises. A Mac with less than 16GB is just a waste of time, the OS just struggles. 24GB is now the real starting point, which still means you need to drop more cash on upgrades. MBP 32GB with 512 is a sweet spot. Gaming on Mac is just a none starter.
All Macbooks start at 16GB now which is more than enough for the majority. For my usage 8GB has been enough for the last four years on my MB Pro 13 M1. Even on my work machine, the 16GB M1 Pro I rarely use more than 9GB of RAM with no swap. Mind you my workload is office based rather than creator focused, but then again, creators are just one demographic. 32GB would be wasted on me, most would be used as cache. But I can understand Pro users who would buy the M4 Pro or Max need more, but not the base model. Gaming is no longer viable due to Microsoft closing Bootcamp and Windows on ARM also having issues with gaming compatibility.
@ Microsoft didn’t close bootcamp, that’s Apple. Just like Apple doesn’t allow any 3rd party VM software on the platform. 9 GB the OS isn’t even started. I can climb a mountain with just a tooth pick! It’s what’s you’re used to. It’s not efficient however, nor is it fun. Two completely different things. 16GB is the absolute bare minimum if you want to limp forward. 24GB is needed, esp if you want the AI crap Apple is now pushing.
@@nothingtosee7718 Apple had bootcamp when it was Intel--you can still use it. But the huge leap Apple made with the M Chips meant MS was scared that people would buy Macs and run Windows on it. You can see that on the X Elite, MS has bootlocked these chips to prevent people buying them and dumping Windows for Linux. You seem very anti-Apple despite the facts. It is clear that for 3.5 years M-Macs have dominated in performance per watt and efficiency, even now the M4 shines above the Intel and AMD rivals, with the X Elite nowhere.
lol. Dude. I carry my m4 MacBook 16 Pro chip and my Lenovo Legion 7i as well as my Keychron Q1 He keyboard . I also have my gaming mouse my adapters and my AirPod max in my backpack. I’m only 5’9” 160lbs. But I can squat 285lbs though. Haha. If you think your MacBook 14 is heavy, then my backpack is Mount Everest. 😂😂
It’s a very powerful work laptop that can game, but has limited support due to the fact not many people use them that way. There are other companies that produce gamer-focused machines in the form factor of a laptop.
@ashm3697 They can, I have gamed on a Mac. It’s a negative feedback loop not many people game on Macs so it’s not worth developing for, intern not a lot of people game on Macs.
im sorry dawg but the 14 inch is literally half a pound more than the OG 2020 M1 MacBook Pro (mine), im gonna {eventually} upgrade to a 16 inch M4 Pro or M6 Pro chipset and the 16 INCH is about 3x weight difference... 1.5 (rounded down from 1.7) pounds from half a pound. I'll totally take an extra 2 pounds (rounded up) (2020)-3 lbs, (2024) 16 inch-4.7 lbs for BETTER DISPLAY, SPEAKERS, MICS, VIDEO, CHIPS ETC. long story short, its actually not that heavy... and I take my laptop everywhere... if an extra 5 lbs is too tough to rock daily maybe get your money up not your funny up...
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First time Mac user, I got the mid-base M4 MacBook Pro (16GB RAM, 1TB SSD, Space Black). So far this has been a game changer in terms of both processing power and usage, and this is the best laptop I have ever used. Going for the base rather than the Pro means that I have enough processing power for my mid-light use cases along with the best battery life of the M4 lineup in the 14 inch. This is a laptop that truly is portable. The build quality on this thing is on a whole other level. There is nothing like it. And the integration with iPhone and Watch has been game changing for me as well, giving me the ability to do all of my communication without caring which device I use for it, even for text and calls.
downside of buying base model pro is that next spring air will get m4 and your mac will become pumpkin but this is part of marketing strategy.
@@JohnDoeJr123 I get your point, but it still has some significant advantages over the Air. The Pro has a fan, better ports, better screen and likely better battery. On balance, I think the difference is worth it.
@@JohnDoeJr123he probably should have just got the 12 core m4 pro
@@martinpaternosterwho is transferring 120 gigabytes back and forth through thunderbolt 5. Rarely anyone unless u are making paramount movies
That is indeed the sensible option for the majority of users that will never need the power of the Pro or Max. I had the same base M1 version and 3.5 years later it still beats many contemporary Windows machines and has aged well. That will serve you for as long as you need it.
Long term? 1 month
Longer than many relationships in the US 😂
"M4 Pros is for new pros" That's the best way Ive heard it described as a videographer with 10+ years running my own business. My projects have scaled to the point where I need the Max chip to chew through the caliber of work I put out. When I was just getting started I could have 100% just used the Pro chip as I learned my style, scaled up my productions and introduced multiple cameras to my larger productions. I always tell everyone that the M4 Pro is an excellent video editing and productivity chip until you're running more than 2-3 tracks of 4k footage with transitions and sound design. Anyone who says otherwise does not push their laptops as hard as they claim.
I look at the base M4 for ultrabook users that want a few extras over the Air. The M4 Pro I see for semi-pros that do not need the full monty. The M4 Max should be the default for professionals, as it has the higher RAM options and gives the best performance.
"2-3 tracks of 4k footage with transitions and sound design" this works even on my M1 air 16 Ram . I expect this would work flawless on M4 pro
Cant say how much this video helped me, because the macbook pro M3 16" weights so much more than Macbook Air M4, that is a big difference and much cheaper, less weight
A deep game library would be clutch
Hey music makers those who use Logic and Ableton. Do you giys use the base M4Pro or do you need more specs like 48gb RAM??
I figure if its available a refurbished M3 Pro 36 RAM and 4TB storage option should be enough.
Not sure about the RAM but I think 4tb is overkill. I'd go for 1 maybe 2tb max. And then just buy an external SSD to save the projects on.
The jump from M3 to M4 is substantial. So better go for M4 and save on storage. Unless you get an insane deal on the M3. Especially considering that Ableton and Logic cannot use the efficiency cores currently.
Watch the videos by James Zhan where he compares DAWs and M series
@mar7838 that's fair I have a bunch of Ps3, GameCube and PS2 games on my MacBook in addition to apple tv shows and movies.
My iPad is 2tb.
For music production in Logic, M4 Pro is far superior to M3 Pro due to the increase in performance cores. The DAW can't use efficiency cores, so you're looking at 5 or 6 functional cores with M3 Pro vs 8 or 10 functional cores on M4 Pro. It's essentially 2x more efficient! While I don't produce music professionally, I do work in Logic from time to time and got an M4 Pro chip for it. If you're looking to upgrade from the base M4 Pro, I'd recommend first getting the 14-core version for those 2 extra performance cores. Upgrade the storage to 1 or 2 TB if you're set on keeping all of your projects on the machine, but more than that is excessive and not economical when you can just put completed tracks on external storage. If you think you're going to be working with projects that use a shit ton of tracks, get the 48GB of ram, but if you're just mixing standard tracks it shouldn't be necessary. I run a VM for my job and the 48GB is needed for that, but if I was just speccing for music production I'd say 24 is plenty. Hope that helps!
@themuffinunicorn Yoo that helps alot thank you soo much
Arthur, thank you for the video. As a user of mbp16m1pro, you know that it practically does not turn on fans even in the most difficult projects, only when renderings when the load on the processor is continuous.
Please tell me, when working in a downloaded video editing project, plus, as you write, at the same time some other applications are open in parallel, how does the cooling system mbp14m4pro behave? How loud can the fans be heard? Judging by the specifications, 14'' laptops have a minimum fan speed almost 2 times higher than 16'' laptops.
Bro come on now. It's short term
"Long-term"
Overconsumption
My biggest question is how I can buy the new MB Pro with a RU keyboard and give Apple my old Air. I assume that I have to order this pro machine on the website, and then… then I don’t know what 😅 I mean you have to pay if you are ordering an unusual keyboard (I’m in Spain so it’s unusual here) but I have to give them my old machine for cutting the price…. I’m confused
Don’t complain too much. My laptop bag with an old 17” Hp, power cord and other stuff weighs 35 pounds.
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Man its so cringe when people say the 16 is heavy 😂
Think about Mac book pro with foldable double screen and double battery capacity with silicone carbon batteries, also with more micro nano size power efficient chip and graphics processor
MBA is just for those looking for a cheap entry point. But it’s got too many compromises. A Mac with less than 16GB is just a waste of time, the OS just struggles. 24GB is now the real starting point, which still means you need to drop more cash on upgrades.
MBP 32GB with 512 is a sweet spot.
Gaming on Mac is just a none starter.
All Macbooks start at 16GB now which is more than enough for the majority. For my usage 8GB has been enough for the last four years on my MB Pro 13 M1. Even on my work machine, the 16GB M1 Pro I rarely use more than 9GB of RAM with no swap. Mind you my workload is office based rather than creator focused, but then again, creators are just one demographic.
32GB would be wasted on me, most would be used as cache. But I can understand Pro users who would buy the M4 Pro or Max need more, but not the base model.
Gaming is no longer viable due to Microsoft closing Bootcamp and Windows on ARM also having issues with gaming compatibility.
@ Microsoft didn’t close bootcamp, that’s Apple. Just like Apple doesn’t allow any 3rd party VM software on the platform.
9 GB the OS isn’t even started. I can climb a mountain with just a tooth pick! It’s what’s you’re used to. It’s not efficient however, nor is it fun. Two completely different things. 16GB is the absolute bare minimum if you want to limp forward. 24GB is needed, esp if you want the AI crap Apple is now pushing.
@@nothingtosee7718 Apple had bootcamp when it was Intel--you can still use it. But the huge leap Apple made with the M Chips meant MS was scared that people would buy Macs and run Windows on it. You can see that on the X Elite, MS has bootlocked these chips to prevent people buying them and dumping Windows for Linux. You seem very anti-Apple despite the facts.
It is clear that for 3.5 years M-Macs have dominated in performance per watt and efficiency, even now the M4 shines above the Intel and AMD rivals, with the X Elite nowhere.
is your brain M4 Ultra?! a month is never long term
unless your life is scrolling speed is measured in scroll per nanosecond
I got the m4 24 rams 16 core got it 2 days ago and there is a little heat is that normal?
This Mac isn’t a “Pro Pro” machine ?
The way people hype it I feel like it certainly is…
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Can I ask where your accent is from?
Always go Pro or Ultra
8:01 th difintion of Pro in the TH-cam sphere is so narrow and self centered…
I tried to buy a MacBook Pro M4 Pro twice, but both had cosmetic flaws. I ended up returning them and decided to give up on owning a MacBook.
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lol. Dude. I carry my m4 MacBook 16 Pro chip and my Lenovo Legion 7i as well as my Keychron Q1 He keyboard . I also have my gaming mouse my adapters and my AirPod max in my backpack. I’m only 5’9” 160lbs. But I can squat 285lbs though. Haha. If you think your MacBook 14 is heavy, then my backpack is Mount Everest. 😂😂
Pathetic that you can’t use that power to have a decent gaming experience
Crossover
It’s a very powerful work laptop that can game, but has limited support due to the fact not many people use them that way. There are other companies that produce gamer-focused machines in the form factor of a laptop.
@@CaramelCraft most people wouldn't need a PC if macs could game properly
@ashm3697 They can, I have gamed on a Mac. It’s a negative feedback loop not many people game on Macs so it’s not worth developing for, intern not a lot of people game on Macs.
im sorry dawg but the 14 inch is literally half a pound more than the OG 2020 M1 MacBook Pro (mine), im gonna {eventually} upgrade to a 16 inch M4 Pro or M6 Pro chipset and the 16 INCH is about 3x weight difference... 1.5 (rounded down from 1.7) pounds from half a pound.
I'll totally take an extra 2 pounds (rounded up) (2020)-3 lbs, (2024) 16 inch-4.7 lbs for BETTER DISPLAY, SPEAKERS, MICS, VIDEO, CHIPS ETC. long story short, its actually not that heavy... and I take my laptop everywhere... if an extra 5 lbs is too tough to rock daily maybe get your money up not your funny up...
Yeah he’s definitely over exaggerating the weight, they aren’t heavy enough to cause back problems.