@26:24 Henry marrying Anne of Cleves before actually meeting her in person is like proposing to someone because you only saw their picture on their profile question
Henry would have, privately, argued that not having a male heir would mean Civil War, a return to the savagery of what we call "The Wars of the Roses". He would have justified his treachery towards men in the same way - he expressed close friendship and loyalty to various men (as well as women) he then had killed. The overall argument being "different rules apply to Kings than to ordinary people - as Kings have to put the interests of the Realm above personal honour, and thus have to lie, murder, and-so-on". But many Kings have NOT behaved like this - so one is forced back to David Starkey's position (and Starkey is certainly not "Woke") that Henry was a tyrant - a man who did evil things well beyond "the needs of state"! As for claims of adultery against two Queens - as Queens were never really alone in a Tudor court, such charges are absurd.
Such great points!! All monarchs from the period faced similar challenges and yet not all of them went to such extremes… If you want to look more at the legitimacy of the charges against the queens, then I recommend Nicola Clark’s research on the meaning of privacy in the Tudor Queens’ courts. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
@4:27 Henry blamed Catherine for not being able to produce a son, the irony of this is that the gender of the child is determined by the father’s ehem ‘reproductive material’, so scientifically speaking it’s more his fault then her’s
12:57 Anne never had any stillbirths. She had half as many pregnancies as Catherine and besides Elizabeth, she had a false pregnancy and two sons lost to miscarriage.
Ah thank you, I must have mixed up that sentence. The point remains that she struggled giving birth to a healthy baby and it much have been sad and difficult for her 😔
I’ve got to ask: is this literally the first time in Britain that the King had this problem of not being able to have a son because his wife kept producing girls
Good question! In the twelfth century (when the system of sons inheriting the crown had mostly been established), Henry I only had one surviving legitimate child, a daughter Matilda. When Henry died, Matilda’s cousin Stephen seized power and this started a civil war called The Anarchy that lasted for nearly two decades. Matilda never ruled as queen herself though, so that meant it was still unprecedented for a daughter to inherit the crown - hence all the trouble over the sixteenth century!
@26:24 Henry marrying Anne of Cleves before actually meeting her in person is like proposing to someone because you only saw their picture on their profile question
this is a really good video!!! cool topic and well edited and put together!
Awwwww thank you for your kind comment!!
Henry would have, privately, argued that not having a male heir would mean Civil War, a return to the savagery of what we call "The Wars of the Roses". He would have justified his treachery towards men in the same way - he expressed close friendship and loyalty to various men (as well as women) he then had killed. The overall argument being "different rules apply to Kings than to ordinary people - as Kings have to put the interests of the Realm above personal honour, and thus have to lie, murder, and-so-on". But many Kings have NOT behaved like this - so one is forced back to David Starkey's position (and Starkey is certainly not "Woke") that Henry was a tyrant - a man who did evil things well beyond "the needs of state"! As for claims of adultery against two Queens - as Queens were never really alone in a Tudor court, such charges are absurd.
Such great points!! All monarchs from the period faced similar challenges and yet not all of them went to such extremes… If you want to look more at the legitimacy of the charges against the queens, then I recommend Nicola Clark’s research on the meaning of privacy in the Tudor Queens’ courts. Thank you so much for watching and commenting!
@@MimiMortmain Thank you.
@4:27 Henry blamed Catherine for not being able to produce a son, the irony of this is that the gender of the child is determined by the father’s ehem ‘reproductive material’, so scientifically speaking it’s more his fault then her’s
Back then they didn't know which spouse determined the gender of the baby.
@@sqseq1237I know but it’s ironic because of hindsight.
Mademoiselle Museum Mimi of the Mortmain clan never misses. This video owns, and the effort into it clearly shows - I learned a lot! Thank you!
I’m so glad to hear, especially since it took so long to put together. Thank you for watching!!
@3:43 ‘it’s a tragic tale of betrayal and loyalty’, if it’s betrayal then it’s disloyal surely
Henry betrayed while Catherine was loyal, as the classic story goes 💔
12:57 Anne never had any stillbirths. She had half as many pregnancies as Catherine and besides Elizabeth, she had a false pregnancy and two sons lost to miscarriage.
Ah thank you, I must have mixed up that sentence. The point remains that she struggled giving birth to a healthy baby and it much have been sad and difficult for her 😔
@@MimiMortmain Yes.
What is the difference between those things
@@cameronspalding9792 Miscarriage and stillbirth?
@@sqseq1237 yes those two things
I’ve got to ask: is this literally the first time in Britain that the King had this problem of not being able to have a son because his wife kept producing girls
Good question! In the twelfth century (when the system of sons inheriting the crown had mostly been established), Henry I only had one surviving legitimate child, a daughter Matilda. When Henry died, Matilda’s cousin Stephen seized power and this started a civil war called The Anarchy that lasted for nearly two decades. Matilda never ruled as queen herself though, so that meant it was still unprecedented for a daughter to inherit the crown - hence all the trouble over the sixteenth century!
@38:33, that sounds very problematic that she was dating men with that sort of age gap when she was 21
Worse - she was a young teenager when all those men were pursuing her!
‘Divorce Catherine of Aragon based on a technicality’, what technicality?
That the marriage had never been valid because she had already been married to Arthur, Henry’s older brother who had passed away 💔