While a lot of these quests would have been cool, by leaving hints in the game it makes Cyrodiil feel much more lived in. Things go and people live their lives without the direct interaction of the player, and I think thats pretty neat!
yup, and unused systems which the toxic crowd love to point as laziness, are actually great for modders to make use of (also, most unfinished or unused systems left in have nothing to do with laziness, some are even examples of quite the opposite).
When I was exploring I came across an unmapped/uncharted large house somewhere in the west Weald. There were bandits living in it and I have no idea what was the intention for the house or why it’s not located on the map. Please let us know if you have come across it and what your speculation is about it’s existence.
If it’s the house I think it is, it’s one of the spots where an oblivion gate can spawn. The gate actually destroys the house as a nice little setpiece.
That house is also the in world location of the dream world (from that mages guild quest in Bravil) If you're ever doing that quest and you're in the dream world just open your world map and it will show you're in that location
with Bethesda rereleasing skyrim a million times, it would have been nice for them to do the same with oblivion! add all the cut content and then some. maybe some more expansion packs!
Nah that would take way too much work for Bethesda, they ain't doing that. Instead they'll just break mod compatibility in Skyrim to try once again monetizing mods. You're supposed to give them money for the least work possible, your mistake is thinking Bethesda gives a shit about you as a consumer.
There are rumors of a remaster of the game using unreal engine to render it alongside the creation engine. This was actually included in the Bethesda roadmap that was leaked in the Microsoft acquisition FCC court case, but who knows if they're still working on it. Even if they do remaster oblivion I think it would be only graphical, I doubt they'd go back and add cut content, especially if that would require getting the old voice cast back to record new dialogue.
I knew about some cut content quests from your or other youtuber's videos already (working in High council with Ocato, Arena faction). Some clues I did find myself when I tasked myself to check all houses in the game just for fun, like Eugal Belette having his little Mythic Dawn shrine in his own basement, felt like it had to be involved somewhere in some kind of quest, the haunted house in Skingrad, Lazare Milvan having weird conversation about you being a low birth, the village/settlement north of Leyawiin not involved in any quest whatsoever what was strange as I believe every other village/settlement is involved in some kind of quest. (I still didn't find the Rosethorn Hall hourglass treasure quest despite checking all the houses though, despite that it has journal entries :D). But there is so much more! I had no idea, great info for sure.
Lol, my friend, that one is a bit tricky if you don't know where to look When you're in the rosethorn hall basement, check the top diagonal struts of the first support beam you see in the middle of the room The hourglass will be lodged in there and once activated you receive a generic hourglass, some random gems and a unique ring iirc
Cut and/or unfinished quests are always interesting to me; it's pretty cool to imagine what could've been, had the developers been given enough time/resources. Since there's so many non-quests here, I'm just gonna give my brief thoughts on them, instead of devoting a massive novel to each one :P ---- 1: The Arenas: If I had to guess, the various arenas would've been different areas for the player to travel to and do separate quests for. These quests could've been simply more fights, or they could've been more complex dungeon-crawl quests (Like the "Origins of the Gray Prince", for instance). If they were more fights, Bethesda might've cut most of the arenas because they would've been redundant; there's just no point in making the player bounce from city to city just to do something that one all-purpose arena could do. If they were more in the style of dungeon crawling, then Bethesda could've been worried that the Arena was getting too close to being a discount Fighter's Guild. ---- 2: Owyn's daughter: This is an interesting one, as both Owyn and someone named Branwen exist in-game, and both are Redguards. I can't think of a reason Bethesda would cut the quest (besides time/budget constraints). But they also left the note there... If I had to guess, I'd assume they cut out all the dialogue, but forgot about the note lying on the ground. And as someone who's attempted to make his own game in RPG Maker, stuff like that happens a lot more than you'd think. ---- 3: Do You Need Couriers: This basically sounds like it would've tasked the player with delivering newspapers. Which is something most players would've quickly concluded to be dull as dishwater. The only people I could think of are those who would like the idea of roleplaying as a paperboy, or people who want something to do while they do other quests (kinda like how some people pick up Nirnroot for Sinderion while they're doing other stuff). The only somewhat sensible thing I can think of is that none of the cities were going to be "discovered" at the start of the game, requiring the player to walk to them before being able to fast-travel there (sort of like how Skyrim handles its major cities). In that case, the paperboy schtick would've been a way to subtly teach the player where all the cities are. But in the vanilla game, the player can go to any city they want right off the bat (even what's left of Kvatch), making such a quest pointless. ---- 4: Duke of Colovia: We have the developers explaining why the quest was cut, so I don't think I need to give you my two cents. But I will anyway :D It could've been a cut quest _within_ the main quest. Like, say, right before/after "Allies for Bruma". ---- 5: Jagar Tharn's Cohorts: Considering that the prison was in Black Marsh, I like to think that one of the DLCs was going to involve the player going to Black Marsh at some point, only for it to be replaced with the Shivering Isles. And let's be honest, the Shivering Isles are 100% more entertaining :3 ---- 6: Creatures around Dro'Shanji's House: This particular quest might've been cut because the developers were worried it was too similar to "Whom Gods Annoy". And in a manner similar to Owyn, they cut out the quest itself, but forgot a part of it; in this case, a line of dialogue. And the dialogue in question is from an _innkeeper,_ making it all the more likely the player will hear it. Which might indicate that the quest was cut close to Oblivion's release, but why it remains in the game to this day is baffling. ---- 7: The Red Queen: I got nothing, here. Mainly because there just isn't enough information to go on. Maybe there was going to be another dungeon with a Red Queen's lair, and the player would have to decide which one to side with? Eh, I'm just guessing, really. ---- 8: Eugal Belette: Thing is, he's not the only sleeper agent to have damning evidence of his affiliation; at least one other cult member, Hans Black-Nail (Bravil's castle smith) also has Mythic Dawn paraphernalia hidden in his room. But just like with Belette, there's no option to expose him to the town guard. It's possible that there was a hidden quest where the player could expose the Mythic Dawn agents before they had a chance to attack, but it was decided to be too overly-complicated. ---- 9: Oak & Crosier Shady Stuff: There is at least one shady thing that happens here: The aforementioned Eugal Belette has monthly meetings with Ulen Athram, another Mythic Dawn sleeper agent. Considering the dungeon music in the cellar, maybe a part of the cut quest with Belette was going to involve killing a bunch of Mythic Dawn agents down there during a meeting? ---- 10: Fingers of the Mountain: It became the Mages Guild Recommendation quest. Pretty much an open-and-shut case. ---- 11: Doran's Family Troubles: It's possible the developers cut this quest because they didn't want to have a glut of Ogre-related quests in the game. I mean, there's already The Potato Thief, Weatherleah, and Malacath's quest; not to mention at least two separate Fighter's Guild quests. ---- 12: Blankenmarch & the Azhklan Trolls: It seems to me there was supposed to be a separate quest involving the trolls here. Like you said, various Fighter's Guild members mention the "Blankenmarch job", so it seems like it was supposed to be the site of a quest. But after the quest was either cut or moved, Blankenmarch became some random town with no purpose. ---- 13: Nerastarel's House: This is probably the most perplexing one for me. First of all, it's named after a character that _doesn't even exist_ in-game (and we know it's not just a placeholder name, because during the Thieves Guild quest, "Lost Histories", Amusei casually refers to it as "Nerastarel's house"). Second: It's not out in the ass-end of nowhere, it's _right in the middle_ of *Skingrad,* one of the largest and most affluent towns in Cyrodiil. Third, and most baffling: Nobody mentions it. *AT ALL.* There's no rumors of a haunted house, or anyone mentioning Nerastarel being missing (or dead), or *anything.* That being said, it _is_ right next to Lazare Milvan's house, which has some pretty intriguing implications. Speaking of which... ---- 14: "Sir" Lazare Milvan: This seems like it might've been something similar to "Mazoga the Orc"; two characters who claim to be knights, without anything to actually back it up. If that's the case, Lazare would've been a great foil for Mazoga. See, Mazoga ultimately proves herself to be a pretty chill person, and even openly pleasant at times; Lazare also would've been abrasive at first, but unlike Mazoga, he would've been every bit as unpleasant as he initially appeared. It's possible Bethesda cut Lazare's quest because two different quests dealing with self-proclaimed knights would've seemed redundant. Fun fact about "Sir" Lazare, however: There's a rat in his basement. And it's not just *ANY* rat either, it has _the most health of any rat in the ENTIRE GAME._ And it's literally just called, "Rat", like every other rat in the game. I think the super-rat in Lazare's basement might've played a part in his quest, but the developers either forgot about it, or deliberately left it there as an Easter egg. ---- 15: Alternate Kvatch: A work-in-progress that was changed before the game's official release. Pretty simple explanation. Edit: Fixed some typos.
New to this channel but tbf I’m surprised it doesn’t have more subscribers. I don’t watch much TH-cam for entertainment as I’m usually too busy working or training but when I wanna just chill and unwind before bed I like content like this. I grew up playing Skyrim but when I played Obliviom I genuinely thought it was the best game ever. I love seeing content creators like this who make interesting videos about abstract concepts in these games. Keep up the good work brother, can’t wait to see you go viral
exploring unmarked cave was the most excited i ever was in Oblivion; the fact i had to use glitches to access it made me think i was just missing something til i went through the whole thing.
So much more content that wasn't in this massive game. 3:20 The choice to spare Branwen to prove she's Owen's daughter or become the champion would have been hard for me. 12:36 This is the missing piece I would have loved to play during the fighters guild questline. 12:56 Never even knew of this house! Glarthir and Whodunit had too much of my attention.
I would have loved to have other arena quests. I always hate the bittersweetness of the Gray Prince stuff. Though having all the cut quests would've been nice.
Somewherre up in the peaks of jerall mountains there is (close to the border of the map) a small patch of burnt forest, next to a charred tree a chest, i assume its quest related but no quests takes you there, cut content most likely
I feel like the haunted house in Skingrad did have a quest that I did but I cannot remember how I had that quest start and that I went there to find a letter or what not. I played it on the PS3 if that helps.
@@thegamertube9224 No it was in Skingrad. I remember it specifically and maybe there was a note on the place that explained it. I will look at my old game files to confirm.
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While a lot of these quests would have been cool, by leaving hints in the game it makes Cyrodiil feel much more lived in. Things go and people live their lives without the direct interaction of the player, and I think thats pretty neat!
yup, and unused systems which the toxic crowd love to point as laziness, are actually great for modders to make use of (also, most unfinished or unused systems left in have nothing to do with laziness, some are even examples of quite the opposite).
3:50 No wonder I was wondering why there was something missing when I encountered her lol. I KNEW there was something more about her.
When I was exploring I came across an unmapped/uncharted large house somewhere in the west Weald. There were bandits living in it and I have no idea what was the intention for the house or why it’s not located on the map. Please let us know if you have come across it and what your speculation is about it’s existence.
If it’s the house I think it is, it’s one of the spots where an oblivion gate can spawn. The gate actually destroys the house as a nice little setpiece.
That house is also the in world location of the dream world (from that mages guild quest in Bravil)
If you're ever doing that quest and you're in the dream world just open your world map and it will show you're in that location
If you use the speech minigame to reduce Eugel Ballette's disposition to zero he will agro you. Do this in front of the town guard for a good show.
with Bethesda rereleasing skyrim a million times, it would have been nice for them to do the same with oblivion! add all the cut content and then some. maybe some more expansion packs!
I would have much preferred that too. Heck even Morrowind.
Nah that would take way too much work for Bethesda, they ain't doing that. Instead they'll just break mod compatibility in Skyrim to try once again monetizing mods. You're supposed to give them money for the least work possible, your mistake is thinking Bethesda gives a shit about you as a consumer.
@@Zeropointill I mean, name me a company who does give regards to their consumer in this day and age haha
There are rumors of a remaster of the game using unreal engine to render it alongside the creation engine. This was actually included in the Bethesda roadmap that was leaked in the Microsoft acquisition FCC court case, but who knows if they're still working on it. Even if they do remaster oblivion I think it would be only graphical, I doubt they'd go back and add cut content, especially if that would require getting the old voice cast back to record new dialogue.
I knew about some cut content quests from your or other youtuber's videos already (working in High council with Ocato, Arena faction).
Some clues I did find myself when I tasked myself to check all houses in the game just for fun, like Eugal Belette having his little Mythic Dawn shrine in his own basement, felt like it had to be involved somewhere in some kind of quest, the haunted house in Skingrad, Lazare Milvan having weird conversation about you being a low birth, the village/settlement north of Leyawiin not involved in any quest whatsoever what was strange as I believe every other village/settlement is involved in some kind of quest. (I still didn't find the Rosethorn Hall hourglass treasure quest despite checking all the houses though, despite that it has journal entries :D). But there is so much more! I had no idea, great info for sure.
Lol, my friend, that one is a bit tricky if you don't know where to look
When you're in the rosethorn hall basement, check the top diagonal struts of the first support beam you see in the middle of the room
The hourglass will be lodged in there and once activated you receive a generic hourglass, some random gems and a unique ring iirc
I wish they would release all the info and audios about the cut content for modders to make
Exactly. I would love to play these cut content quests which would be redone by modders.
Your channel is so GOATed, such great content. Gonna be huge. 💯💯💯
Cut and/or unfinished quests are always interesting to me; it's pretty cool to imagine what could've been, had the developers been given enough time/resources. Since there's so many non-quests here, I'm just gonna give my brief thoughts on them, instead of devoting a massive novel to each one :P
---- 1: The Arenas: If I had to guess, the various arenas would've been different areas for the player to travel to and do separate quests for. These quests could've been simply more fights, or they could've been more complex dungeon-crawl quests (Like the "Origins of the Gray Prince", for instance). If they were more fights, Bethesda might've cut most of the arenas because they would've been redundant; there's just no point in making the player bounce from city to city just to do something that one
all-purpose arena could do. If they were more in the style of dungeon crawling, then Bethesda could've been worried that the Arena was getting too close to being a discount Fighter's Guild.
---- 2: Owyn's daughter: This is an interesting one, as both Owyn and someone named Branwen exist in-game, and both are Redguards. I can't think of a reason Bethesda would cut the quest (besides time/budget constraints). But they also left the note there...
If I had to guess, I'd assume they cut out all the dialogue, but forgot about the note lying on the ground. And as someone who's attempted to make his own game in RPG Maker, stuff like that happens a lot more than you'd think.
---- 3: Do You Need Couriers: This basically sounds like it would've tasked the player with delivering newspapers. Which is something most players would've quickly concluded to be dull as dishwater. The only people I could think of are those who would like the idea of roleplaying as a paperboy, or people who want something to do while they do other quests (kinda like how some people pick up Nirnroot for Sinderion while they're doing other stuff).
The only somewhat sensible thing I can think of is that none of the cities were going to be "discovered" at the start of the game, requiring the player to walk to them before being able to fast-travel there (sort of like how Skyrim handles its major cities). In that case, the paperboy schtick would've been a way to subtly teach the player where all the cities are. But in the vanilla game, the player can go to any city they want right off the bat (even what's left of Kvatch), making such a quest pointless.
---- 4: Duke of Colovia: We have the developers explaining why the quest was cut, so I don't think I need to give you my two cents. But I will anyway :D
It could've been a cut quest _within_ the main quest. Like, say, right before/after "Allies for Bruma".
---- 5: Jagar Tharn's Cohorts: Considering that the prison was in Black Marsh, I like to think that one of the DLCs was going to involve the player going to Black Marsh at some point, only for it to be replaced with the Shivering Isles. And let's be honest, the Shivering Isles are 100% more entertaining :3
---- 6: Creatures around Dro'Shanji's House: This particular quest might've been cut because the developers were worried it was too similar to "Whom Gods Annoy". And in a manner similar to Owyn, they cut out the quest itself, but forgot a part of it; in this case, a line of dialogue. And the dialogue in question is from an _innkeeper,_ making it all the more likely the player will hear it. Which might indicate that the quest was cut close to Oblivion's release, but why it remains in the game to this day is baffling.
---- 7: The Red Queen: I got nothing, here. Mainly because there just isn't enough information to go on. Maybe there was going to be another dungeon with a Red Queen's lair, and the player would have to decide which one to side with? Eh, I'm just guessing, really.
---- 8: Eugal Belette: Thing is, he's not the only sleeper agent to have damning evidence of his affiliation; at least one other cult member, Hans Black-Nail (Bravil's castle smith) also has Mythic Dawn paraphernalia hidden in his room. But just like with Belette, there's no option to expose him to the town guard. It's possible that there was a hidden quest where the player could expose the Mythic Dawn agents before they had a chance to attack, but it was decided to be too overly-complicated.
---- 9: Oak & Crosier Shady Stuff: There is at least one shady thing that happens here: The aforementioned Eugal Belette has monthly meetings with Ulen Athram, another Mythic Dawn sleeper agent. Considering the dungeon music in the cellar, maybe a part of the cut quest with Belette was going to involve killing a bunch of Mythic Dawn agents down there during a meeting?
---- 10: Fingers of the Mountain: It became the Mages Guild Recommendation quest. Pretty much an open-and-shut case.
---- 11: Doran's Family Troubles: It's possible the developers cut this quest because they didn't want to have a glut of Ogre-related quests in the game. I mean, there's already The Potato Thief, Weatherleah, and Malacath's quest; not to mention at least two separate Fighter's Guild quests.
---- 12: Blankenmarch & the Azhklan Trolls: It seems to me there was supposed to be a separate quest involving the trolls here. Like you said, various Fighter's Guild members mention the "Blankenmarch job", so it seems like it was supposed to be the site of a quest. But after the quest was either cut or moved, Blankenmarch became some random town with no purpose.
---- 13: Nerastarel's House: This is probably the most perplexing one for me. First of all, it's named after a character that _doesn't even exist_ in-game (and we know it's not just a placeholder name, because during the Thieves Guild quest, "Lost Histories", Amusei casually refers to it as "Nerastarel's house"). Second: It's not out in the ass-end of nowhere, it's _right in the middle_ of *Skingrad,* one of the largest and most affluent towns in Cyrodiil. Third, and most baffling: Nobody mentions it. *AT ALL.* There's no rumors of a haunted house, or anyone mentioning Nerastarel being missing (or dead), or *anything.* That being said, it _is_ right next to Lazare Milvan's house, which has some pretty intriguing implications. Speaking of which...
---- 14: "Sir" Lazare Milvan: This seems like it might've been something similar to "Mazoga the Orc"; two characters who claim to be knights, without anything to actually back it up. If that's the case, Lazare would've been a great foil for Mazoga. See, Mazoga ultimately proves herself to be a pretty chill person, and even openly pleasant at times; Lazare also would've been abrasive at first, but unlike Mazoga, he would've been every bit as unpleasant as he initially appeared. It's possible Bethesda cut Lazare's quest because two different quests dealing with self-proclaimed knights would've seemed redundant.
Fun fact about "Sir" Lazare, however: There's a rat in his basement. And it's not just *ANY* rat either, it has _the most health of any rat in the ENTIRE GAME._ And it's literally just called, "Rat", like every other rat in the game. I think the super-rat in Lazare's basement might've played a part in his quest, but the developers either forgot about it, or deliberately left it there as an Easter egg.
---- 15: Alternate Kvatch: A work-in-progress that was changed before the game's official release. Pretty simple explanation.
Edit: Fixed some typos.
New to this channel but tbf I’m surprised it doesn’t have more subscribers. I don’t watch much TH-cam for entertainment as I’m usually too busy working or training but when I wanna just chill and unwind before bed I like content like this. I grew up playing Skyrim but when I played Obliviom I genuinely thought it was the best game ever. I love seeing content creators like this who make interesting videos about abstract concepts in these games. Keep up the good work brother, can’t wait to see you go viral
There is something oddly comforting about these videos. Plus the nostalgia factor.
exploring unmarked cave was the most excited i ever was in Oblivion; the fact i had to use glitches to access it made me think i was just missing something til i went through the whole thing.
So much more content that wasn't in this massive game. 3:20 The choice to spare Branwen to prove she's Owen's daughter or become the champion would have been hard for me. 12:36 This is the missing piece I would have loved to play during the fighters guild questline. 12:56 Never even knew of this house! Glarthir and Whodunit had too much of my attention.
Sweet video. Glad you covered cut content
You should go on an unmarked quest and find out who all the statues in the major cities are of!
You forgot about the giant rat in the guy's basement who keeps asking for a duel.
That’s just a test asset leftover.
The fact that they cut out the tie-in to Travels Stormhold makes me sad
Nice vid, a couple of these I actually wasn't aware of.
Can't wait to see what Skyblivion resurrects...
It's a shame many of these quests were cut, most of them sound very interesting
I would have loved to have other arena quests. I always hate the bittersweetness of the Gray Prince stuff. Though having all the cut quests would've been nice.
Man, some of these sounded so cool.
Somewherre up in the peaks of jerall mountains there is (close to the border of the map) a small patch of burnt forest, next to a charred tree a chest, i assume its quest related but no quests takes you there, cut content most likely
Some of this cut content would have been so cool
I would have rather have seen these quests added BACK into the game before the first re-release of Skyrim for sure..
I fuckin hate cut content smh, sum of these missions sound so much and cool😢
Oblivion is peak elder scrolls. I think it was better than Skyrim tbh
I feel like the haunted house in Skingrad did have a quest that I did but I cannot remember how I had that quest start and that I went there to find a letter or what not. I played it on the PS3 if that helps.
May have been the anvil house ?
@@thegamertube9224 No it was in Skingrad. I remember it specifically and maybe there was a note on the place that explained it. I will look at my old game files to confirm.
nice vid. ya the other arenas would have been soooo much cooler. arenas cool but it gets boring rq