Really liked the initiative taken by Filmkopath to celebrate 100 yrs of Satyajit Ray through various interview sessions. The interview with Anirban is really bold , questions that were asked are really pertinent and well researched. One important point which came out from the discussion was how we have negelected the host of talented character actors from Bengal. We should talk more about them and celebrate their works.
41:26 exactly.. আমিও এটাই ভাবছিলাম.. আমাদের মত ছেলে মেয়ে যারা ছোটো বেলায় হীরক রাজার দেশে দেখেছি.. আমাদের মাথায় কোথায় ব্যাপারটা বসে গেছে.. সে উদয়ন পন্ডিত হোক বা 'কতই রঙ্গ দেখি' গাওয়া বাউল টি অথবা ওই দড়ি ধরে মারো টান ending টা.. এগুলো কেমন আত্মিক হয়ে গেছে.. তাই আমাদের মনে ভয় লাগে.. কিন্তু শেষে আবার আসাও থাকে..
A nicely presented symposium on Ray's centenary about his creation & various other aspect on cinema. I have observed very few films of international fame, but a Polish film 'Kanal' as felt in 60's, really to me it was a spell bounded movie in b/w on 2nd. world war after capturing Poland by German.
Kamal is a great mention. Please watch movies by Agnieszka Holland if you are interested in the WW2/Fascism themes. We had the opportunity to talk to Agnieszka, the video will be out on the channel soon.
One of the most important pillars of Fascism is "sexual anxiety" which again comes from patriarchal society. To a fascist woman is a weak and less important gender. Now it wasn't possible for Ray to show sexual anxiety on celluloid for children. So I guess he had to show that there was no important female characters in the film (except for once in the slum that too weak) and not a single girl child was shown in the pathshala (may be they are not allowed to study).
That's an interesting point.....but you see girls/woman not being there isn't the case for GGBB movies only. The entire Feluda series including the writings hardly has one as well. Shonku doesn't have much either. It is odd indeed. Also when you narrate a tale about fascism and its fall, absence of women entirely doesn't give the full picture isn't it ? I think Satyajit could have done it if he wanted to, he was too good a scriptwriter to not manage that. Again, this might just be nitpicking in a classic which is great by all means as we are trying to revisit these masterpieces from all angles in detail.
Are you saying that historically in Bengal or for that matter south Aisa girls were allowed to study in pathshala with boys? As far as I can understand Hirak Rajar Deshe is set in a medieval setting (period), and no girls in the Pathshala is a reflection of those dark times when girls were not even allowed to play with boys. Secondly I do not think Hirak Rajar Deshe was perceived by the director as a work depicting fascism per-se but oriental-despotism and use of royal propaganda in general. Plus its a satire that too meant for children primarily, but of course like any good children's film it is not restricted to that age group only.
@@chakraborty.biswadeep The pathshala might not be the only scene..it could be in the hut, or village or anywhere else. You see any "ism" cannot stand or fall without participation or presence of one half of the society. That's what was the point
Yesterday I was watching dada in Feludas home... Where sourav ganguly suggests one thing, take at least one of Satyajit rays film and with proper English dubbing, re release it world wide... As we watch Chinese and corean film... As per my choice, Nayak is the best choice, because the story, the feelings and emotions of the protagonist some how is universal.... Once in a while any sensitive person who wants to grow in his or her career... Feels similar.... The guilt, fear, anxiety, tension....
Best Byomkesh 1: Uttam kumar 2: Rajit Kapoor 3: SSR 4: Anirban Best Byomkesh movie: Chiriakhana Detective Byomkesh Bakshi Baki gulo(anjan dutta aar arindam sil er byomkesh) akdm e valo lage na sob book theke same to same jhapa kono experiment nei
Good someone pointed this out. I too feel that after Rajit Kapoor, Detective Byomkesh Bakshy is the best. Banerjee tried to keep the essence of Byomkesh and gave us something different while all the bengali byomkesh films just followed the original text and imitated each other without perfection. And yes, SSR was terrific in that film 👍🏼
@@transitonly5841 I think Dibakar's film was great the way Calcutta was recreated but as for Byomkesh character, it didn't make its mark for me. The Bengaliness that Anirban spoke about in this discussion is hardly there in the SSR version. He is hardly seem to be a Bengali. not in looks but in vibe. Not his fault, it is the choice of him as Byomkesh. I will not consider it to be an experimentation as well, if you invest so much to build old authentic Kolkata why leave out portraying the authentic 🙂 Bengali
@@shreyasidas8543 abir er acting apnar valo lagte pare but arindam sil er byomkesh akdm e upto the mark na .Anirban onek better portray koreche series a compare to Abir..
English e introduction daoar ki mane jakhn discussion ta bangal te habe .... hasi pai khub ... sab kichute bangal bolte ato problem kothay ? r daya kore sonamdhoono bekti jamon satyajit ray ba uttam kumar er puro name bolle valo hoto... Satyajit- Uttam khub kane laglo kano jani na ...
English introduction karon amader channel ta muloto English e, ebong amader Bangla janen na erom onek subscriber achen. Tader jonno alada kore English subtitle banano ache. Puro alochona tae English e kora jeto kintu tate onek somoe flavour ta impacted hoe. Aparna Sen, Dhritiman Chaterji jemon English e korte cheyechilen purotai tai English ei kora hoeche. First name use korle alada kore sonmaan kom hoe erom keno mone holo janina. Onek khetrei amra ta kori thaki. Stanley Kubrick alochonae onar meye onake Stanley bolei ullekh korechen ebong amrao korechi..keu abar ta na kortei paren. Porashunor khetre amra onek somoe "Rabindranath bolechen" boli na ki ? Sabsomoe ki Kobiguru Rabindranath Thakur bolechen boli ? Kimba dhorun Bhupen Hazarika jokhon gaichen "Sabar hridoye Rabindranath, chetonay Nazrul" kono asonman hocche mone hoe ki? Kaaj gulo ke mone kore, khutie dekhe bhebe manushgulo ke celebrate kora, sonmaan deoa besi sreo noe ki ?
Eta bolte thik ki bolchen ? Amader guest Kolkata theke interview diechen, 3 jon host r moddhe ekjon Bhubaneswar, ekjon Kolkata r ekjon Toronto theke. Audience amader nana desh theke ba bharoter nanan pranto theke
Amartya Sen, keno Russia or Chinate na theke USA te taken. Honesty to horrible. TMC Karen Shikshita subidhabadi. Er jonnyo kone kharekhachhen. Bakira bipathe jachhe. Sara bharat bale WB burden. Job WB nei. Bekar week e 500 taka. Saturday basar. Sab buddhijibi. Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Nagpur, etc. Sab village. Kolkatate khan kayak domestic plane name. 35 +15 =50 bachhar ja holo indiar baire hole collapsed state. Fortunately Dr B C Roy r Dr Shyama Prasad esechhilen. Cinema nice bolun. Baking byapare knowledge parar chayer theker maton. .
As usual the Bengali intellectuals just do not understand what is going on in the country and lives in past to define fascist mentality. Current Indian politics is not about a man. It is much deeper and is coming out as cultural shift. It was intended and fascist behavior is always cultural. In the discussion this point is missed completely. There are some imstance of cultural motif in Hirok Rajar Deshe like Gupi Bagha meets a brain washed man but he was naive and not forceful as being observed in the social media today. Though Hirok Rajar Deshe definitely shows fascism and shows the vulnerability of common people it is not correct to describe this movie as the representation of modern day fascism. Also, everybody misses a point which is being shown in Hirok Rajar Deshe (it is debatable it was intentional or came very maturally). At the end the king comes out brain washed and along with the common people chants "dori shore maro tan...". He was brain washed but the same "magojdholai" instrument. That shows whoever comes to power uses the same method to establish rather than patiently change the system internally. Again, I am not sure it was intentional or natural. But problem is Bengali intellectuals observation is limited and they do not understand the context of current political wave and live in the world Mamphisto which is past and fail to give reverence to more modern films which define this fascism in cultural level. There are quite a few films (one of them is definitely Platform) on this subject but Bengali intellectuals like to live in past 😀
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চিড়িয়াখানা সম্বন্ধে অসাধারণ বিশ্লেষণ অনির্বাণ এর। সম্পূর্ণভাবে সহমত ওঁর সঙ্গে। উত্তমকুমারের অন্যতম শ্রেষ্ঠ চরিত্রচিত্রণ।
সত্যি কথা সত্যি বলি। উত্তম কুমারের পরে আবির হলো পারফেক্ট বোমকেশ সিনেমার ক্ষেত্রে
The greatest act against fascism is the great dictator played by the greatest Sir Charles Spencer Chaplin.
একদম সঠিক বিশ্লেষণ। এখনকার প্রেক্ষিতে "হীরক রাজার দেশে" সবচেয়ে প্রাসঙ্গিক। বিশ্বের চলচ্চিত্রে একটা মাইলফলক।
Really liked the initiative taken by Filmkopath to celebrate 100 yrs of Satyajit Ray through various interview sessions. The interview with Anirban is really bold , questions that were asked are really pertinent and well researched.
One important point which came out from the discussion was how we have negelected the host of talented character actors from Bengal. We should talk more about them and celebrate their works.
Thanks so much!
One of the best discussion in recent days.
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In today's national political climate,Hirak Rajar is stunningly relevant.The timelessness of art and the greatness of the artist.Ray.
A healthy and nourished conversation ! Thanks a lot ! মন ভরে গেল।
Thank you 🙏
Anirban….. khub sundor boleychho…. Onnay ke identity naa kora ta e aajker shob thheke boro problem….. shob e jeno shoye jachhe…..
41:26 exactly.. আমিও এটাই ভাবছিলাম..
আমাদের মত ছেলে মেয়ে যারা ছোটো বেলায় হীরক রাজার দেশে দেখেছি.. আমাদের মাথায় কোথায় ব্যাপারটা বসে গেছে.. সে উদয়ন পন্ডিত হোক বা 'কতই রঙ্গ দেখি' গাওয়া বাউল টি অথবা ওই দড়ি ধরে মারো টান ending টা.. এগুলো কেমন আত্মিক হয়ে গেছে.. তাই আমাদের মনে ভয় লাগে.. কিন্তু শেষে আবার আসাও থাকে..
অসাধারণ একটা আলোচনা । ঋদ্ধ হলাম।
A nicely presented symposium on Ray's centenary about his creation & various other aspect on cinema.
I have observed very few films of international fame, but a Polish film 'Kanal' as felt in 60's, really to me it was a spell bounded movie in b/w on 2nd. world war after capturing Poland by German.
Kamal is a great mention. Please watch movies by Agnieszka Holland if you are interested in the WW2/Fascism themes. We had the opportunity to talk to Agnieszka, the video will be out on the channel soon.
Bhaggis prothomer english ta sune bondho kore diyini.. aadhar a theke jetam.. osadharon boktobyo🙏🙏
khubi samriddho holam ....
Thoroughly enjoyed the discussion !!
One of the most important pillars of Fascism is "sexual anxiety" which again comes from patriarchal society. To a fascist woman is a weak and less important gender. Now it wasn't possible for Ray to show sexual anxiety on celluloid for children. So I guess he had to show that there was no important female characters in the film (except for once in the slum that too weak) and not a single girl child was shown in the pathshala (may be they are not allowed to study).
That's an interesting point.....but you see girls/woman not being there isn't the case for GGBB movies only. The entire Feluda series including the writings hardly has one as well. Shonku doesn't have much either. It is odd indeed. Also when you narrate a tale about fascism and its fall, absence of women entirely doesn't give the full picture isn't it ? I think Satyajit could have done it if he wanted to, he was too good a scriptwriter to not manage that. Again, this might just be nitpicking in a classic which is great by all means as we are trying to revisit these masterpieces from all angles in detail.
Are you saying that historically in Bengal or for that matter south Aisa girls were allowed to study in pathshala with boys? As far as I can understand Hirak Rajar Deshe is set in a medieval setting (period), and no girls in the Pathshala is a reflection of those dark times when girls were not even allowed to play with boys. Secondly I do not think Hirak Rajar Deshe was perceived by the director as a work depicting fascism per-se but oriental-despotism and use of royal propaganda in general. Plus its a satire that too meant for children primarily, but of course like any good children's film it is not restricted to that age group only.
@@chakraborty.biswadeep The pathshala might not be the only scene..it could be in the hut, or village or anywhere else. You see any "ism" cannot stand or fall without participation or presence of one half of the society. That's what was the point
সত্যি কথা৷ যদি একটা মিথ্যে কে বারবার এক ভাবে বলা হয়, সেটাকে সত্যি বলেই মনে হয়৷ এবং এটাই ভয়ের।
Anirban is next poster boy of art cinema in bengal
One of the most candid interviews in this channel
Super duper you..most febarit.jodi sabta apnara bangalae balen tahole ki asubidha habe ?
Platform ekta darun film...
Bhishon gobhir subject...
Ajay Devgan er Platform toh.. Tisca Choprao ache taate 😂
খুব ভালো।
Abir in Byomkesh Bakshi 2011 is tooo good ... Isn't it?
Cons/Ploys are rhymed sweetly.
Truth is harsh and in prose.
Yesterday I was watching dada in Feludas home... Where sourav ganguly suggests one thing, take at least one of Satyajit rays film and with proper English dubbing, re release it world wide... As we watch Chinese and corean film...
As per my choice, Nayak is the best choice, because the story, the feelings and emotions of the protagonist some how is universal.... Once in a while any sensitive person who wants to grow in his or her career... Feels similar.... The guilt, fear, anxiety, tension....
"Ami ja ami shetai dekhabo"-simplicity at a different level. Tomcruise tar jonno hotey Hbey na
খুবই ভালো লাগলো 👍🙏
খুব ভালো লাগলো |
Ami aritra gyan Chanel the asechi..ke ke acho👍🏻👍
আনন্দবাজারে অমর্ত্য সেনের উল্লেখিত লেখার প্রসঙ্গে শুনতে শুনতে যে সিনটার কথা মনে পড়লো ...
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Crush ❤️ oh my god
Darun
❤❤
দুর্দান্ত ❤️
Two নিয়ে কথা হলো না। another masterpies
কি চিন্তাভাবনা মাইরি 👌👌👌
Dhore nichchi bhalo 😀
You sound like Rajeev Massand!!
😀😀😀
😂
Best Byomkesh
1: Uttam kumar
2: Rajit Kapoor
3: SSR
4: Anirban
Best Byomkesh movie:
Chiriakhana
Detective Byomkesh Bakshi
Baki gulo(anjan dutta aar arindam sil er byomkesh) akdm e valo lage na sob book theke same to same jhapa kono experiment nei
Good someone pointed this out. I too feel that after Rajit Kapoor, Detective Byomkesh Bakshy is the best. Banerjee tried to keep the essence of Byomkesh and gave us something different while all the bengali byomkesh films just followed the original text and imitated each other without perfection. And yes, SSR was terrific in that film 👍🏼
@@transitonly5841 I think Dibakar's film was great the way Calcutta was recreated but as for Byomkesh character, it didn't make its mark for me. The Bengaliness that Anirban spoke about in this discussion is hardly there in the SSR version. He is hardly seem to be a Bengali. not in looks but in vibe. Not his fault, it is the choice of him as Byomkesh. I will not consider it to be an experimentation as well, if you invest so much to build old authentic Kolkata why leave out portraying the authentic 🙂 Bengali
abir o durdanto bujlen joto sob
@@shreyasidas8543 Abir durdanto aar ami Hrithik Roshan 😜
@@shreyasidas8543 abir er acting apnar valo lagte pare but arindam sil er byomkesh akdm e upto the mark na .Anirban onek better portray koreche series a compare to Abir..
Eiriiiyyy
English e introduction daoar ki mane jakhn discussion ta bangal te habe .... hasi pai khub ... sab kichute bangal bolte ato problem kothay ? r daya kore sonamdhoono bekti jamon satyajit ray ba uttam kumar er puro name bolle valo hoto... Satyajit- Uttam khub kane laglo kano jani na ...
English introduction karon amader channel ta muloto English e, ebong amader Bangla janen na erom onek subscriber achen. Tader jonno alada kore English subtitle banano ache. Puro alochona tae English e kora jeto kintu tate onek somoe flavour ta impacted hoe. Aparna Sen, Dhritiman Chaterji jemon English e korte cheyechilen purotai tai English ei kora hoeche. First name use korle alada kore sonmaan kom hoe erom keno mone holo janina. Onek khetrei amra ta kori thaki. Stanley Kubrick alochonae onar meye onake Stanley bolei ullekh korechen ebong amrao korechi..keu abar ta na kortei paren. Porashunor khetre amra onek somoe "Rabindranath bolechen" boli na ki ? Sabsomoe ki Kobiguru Rabindranath Thakur bolechen boli ? Kimba dhorun Bhupen Hazarika jokhon gaichen "Sabar hridoye Rabindranath, chetonay Nazrul" kono asonman hocche mone hoe ki? Kaaj gulo ke mone kore, khutie dekhe bhebe manushgulo ke celebrate kora, sonmaan deoa besi sreo noe ki ?
বলছি কি দাদা এটা লন্ডন নয় । এটা কলকাতা।
Eta bolte thik ki bolchen ? Amader guest Kolkata theke interview diechen, 3 jon host r moddhe ekjon Bhubaneswar, ekjon Kolkata r ekjon Toronto theke. Audience amader nana desh theke ba bharoter nanan pranto theke
Amartya Sen, keno Russia or Chinate na theke USA te taken.
Honesty to horrible. TMC Karen
Shikshita subidhabadi.
Er jonnyo kone kharekhachhen. Bakira bipathe jachhe. Sara bharat bale WB burden. Job WB nei. Bekar week e 500 taka. Saturday basar.
Sab buddhijibi.
Mumbai, Bangalore, Hyderabad, Nagpur, etc. Sab village.
Kolkatate khan kayak domestic plane name.
35 +15 =50 bachhar ja holo indiar baire hole collapsed state.
Fortunately Dr B C Roy r Dr Shyama Prasad esechhilen.
Cinema nice bolun.
Baking byapare knowledge parar chayer theker maton.
.
As usual the Bengali intellectuals just do not understand what is going on in the country and lives in past to define fascist mentality.
Current Indian politics is not about a man. It is much deeper and is coming out as cultural shift. It was intended and fascist behavior is always cultural. In the discussion this point is missed completely. There are some imstance of cultural motif in Hirok Rajar Deshe like Gupi Bagha meets a brain washed man but he was naive and not forceful as being observed in the social media today.
Though Hirok Rajar Deshe definitely shows fascism and shows the vulnerability of common people it is not correct to describe this movie as the representation of modern day fascism.
Also, everybody misses a point which is being shown in Hirok Rajar Deshe (it is debatable it was intentional or came very maturally). At the end the king comes out brain washed and along with the common people chants "dori shore maro tan...". He was brain washed but the same "magojdholai" instrument. That shows whoever comes to power uses the same method to establish rather than patiently change the system internally. Again, I am not sure it was intentional or natural.
But problem is Bengali intellectuals observation is limited and they do not understand the context of current political wave and live in the world Mamphisto which is past and fail to give reverence to more modern films which define this fascism in cultural level. There are quite a few films (one of them is definitely Platform) on this subject but Bengali intellectuals like to live in past 😀