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6 Mistakes BJJ White Belts Make (that EVERYBODY Hates)
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I share the 6 mistakes all BJJ white belts make that everybody hates...okay, so you may not make all of these mistakes but you'll certainly make a few of these or you already have made a few. Thanks for watching and I'd appreciate you doing one little thing...click that subscribe button so I can get my sub count up to 1000! Seriously, I'd really appreciate the support and I promise to make the best videos I can and to continually get better.
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I am a 6 week white belt and about 2 weeks ago, I was doing side control drills with my instructor. One tip he gave for top control was to get "heavy," but also to keep tension with your knees to prevent the person on bottom from rolling into you. One night I caught myself on bottom side control rolling with a 3 stripe and I tried to coach him (mid position) so he could prevent me from rolling into him like I practiced earlier. I immediately felt like a babbling idiot and felt so embarrassed. My partner was so focused on the roll and I threw him off his game, bad play. DO NOT GIVE TIPS MID ROLL AS A WHITE BELT.
We’ve all been there…don’t feel bad. Thanks for sharing 🙏
I'm a 1 stripe white belt and something that annoyed me yesterday was when I was rolling with a guy he would just tap out when I would get into a good position. He said, "I'm just gonna tap because I already know you got me." I took his back with an arm drag and had a seatbelt and he tapped.. I got to mount and he tapped.. Seemed like kind of a jerk move. I couldn't practice subs and he couldn't practice escapes. (We weren't even going white belt hard, lol)
Yeah, that’s what I call sandbagging. He’s really hurting his game (and yours). If I were rolling with him I would absolutely tell him your thoughts... in a respectful way of course. If he’s reasonable- he’ll understand - if not - I’d avoid rolling with him. Just my 2 cents. Thanks for watching and commenting!
Counterpoint: in my case as a 40+ white belt, I have some limitations on joint mobility from a lifetime of weightlifting and car accidents. The 20 something young buck that ignored my taps and multiple verbal "STOP"s due to (1) having a dominant position and (2) moving my shoulder thru a position that was causing me pain. So yes, I can understand your frustration in someone tapping because he (sic) "knew he was beat" is different than understanding your opponent/partner and appreciating that a Friday evening class with a few 40+ year old beginners do not have the same flexibility & resiliency as 20 yr olds. Did I mention the complete disregard to multiple taps while rolling - it sounds like you respected the tap even though you were frustrated by it. Part of this video touches on this last point - not everyone is at the same level (skill, flexibility, toughness, cardio, etc) as you and if you want to succeed and be respected, respect the tap no matter what.
@@midlifebjj I thought sandbagging was when you’re better than where your comforting at, like a blue belt level person with a white belt competing at a white belt level
maybe ask him why he did that. I wouldn't call it a jerk move, but it is a little bit insulting. I'm going to try to escape bad positions with a one stripe white belt, probably. Work on my escapes, work on my subs. Maybe he's so much better than you that he can just get out of your mount or turtle with no problem and he doesn't want to discourage you. Sometimes when you do bjj you get worried about discouraging newer people. If you move in a spazzy way maybe he's just terrified to let you work.
Maybe he's worried you'll spaz out and hurt him when you go for a sub. There is a real danger of getting hurt by a white belt cranking a sub unless you're way better than him and minding your ps and qs.
I wouldn't take it too seriously though. I remember early on a purple belt basically held me in time out for like 4 minutes. probably cuz he was worried i was too spazzy and dangerous, although in my mind I really wasn't. I'm actually proud that I've never hurt anyone with a cranked submission. But I am a big boy so I understand people get nervous.
@@themekannik yeah I agree. at my old gym there was a guy who would respect the tap but he would say "you can't tap there" because he hadn't finished whatever his move was. that's not right either, you shouldn't complain cuz someone won't let you finish your move. You can explain that that's not where the move ends, or the person's not in danger yet, and maybe if the guy trusts you he'll let you go farther next time, but it's not right to be upset that a person tapped not on your schedule.
You want to kill your opponent, but in a sustainable way. Gotta think green
Lol! Nice. Never heard it contextualized that way but absolutely agree! Appreciate the comment and support on the channel. 🙏
Professor/ Coach says do 10 reps each and stop. Don't stop at 10 and look around and chat, keep repping the move until Professor/Coach calls for everyone's attention for the next bit. 2 or 3 extra reps won't hurt you
Great video, and very accurate. I started about a year ago in a new studio. I am older, 52 to be exact. Often kids (anyone younger than 30) would look to me for advise or answers or even coaching. It was hard not to take a "parental" type role and caught myself on quite few occasions where I was involuntary "coaching". When I saw what I was doing I would stop and make sure to bring the coach in as I knew I did not know enough. It is something I do my best to keep in check.
thank you. It’s difficult to not coach even if you’re new to the sport. I’m 47 and I guess as older guys we just want to help. I DO believe it’s okay to help and advise if a brand new white belt asks for help or does something that could get them or their partner injured…bringing in the professor/coach is sound advice and I appreciate you mentioning that in your comment! Thanks again and keep an eye out this week for a new video. It’s been way to long since I posted a video on this channel!
Great videos man. Just did my first trial class yesterday & I start a beginners course on Monday. I was doing technique with an 8 month white belt. We did half guard into a rear naked choke, I didn’t have a clue for the first 10 mins but they took it easy with me and I could do the full sequence by end of the class. Never felt exhaustion like it but I cannot wait to start the beginners course Monday.
Your videos helped me get prepared both hygienically & mentally so cheers mate 😎
Appreciate that, man! Exhaustion does get better…appreciate your support!🙏
Man... I should have watched this before my first open roll last week. I am recently a smaller guy after losing 60 pounds and everyone was much bigger. I went WAY to white belt hard. I felt it after the class was over. I have never done that before and it made sense that it was like some sort of instinct that kicked in. I did not want someone on top of me, or tapping me. I should have just moved slower and talked. But Noone was talking to me either during the rolls. I DID get compliments from the Coach on a close pass I made on an upper belt. Thanks for the video it really helped explain a few things.
I'm 13 and am in the adult class because im too tall to be in the 10 -14 yr old class. My first day i was rolling with a 16 yr old and i didnt know how to escape a certain submission and he taught me how to escape it while rolling i was pretty thankful he did that. idk maybe sometimes they could teach you some stuff.
I guess it’s good at times...as long as it’s sound advice..keep BJJ grinding buddy! Appreciate the comment.
@@midlifebjj thank you have a good night sir
Same bro im 13 and in adults to
Same they put me in Adults
#2 is my anthem. My training partner whose a blue belt gets a good laugh. Slowly but surely learned about good attack positions.
Lol...I did the same thing brother! It’ll pass.
I have a tendency to not go hard enough on my classmates with submissions. They have to tell me to add more pressure. But since im new i dont want to make a mistake and end up hurting them.
That’s respectful. As you advance - you’ll learn what will potentially hurt them versus what won’t. I think it’s good that you’re not going in all crazy rough and sparing your partners…appreciate the comment 🙏
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate you for it. Keep up with the content 🤙🏻
Start BJJ next week! Thanks for the tips! Subscribed. 👍
Yes sir! Welcome to the club! Let me know how that first roll goes...🙏👋👊🤙
I agree, if your over 40 warmups are beneficial. I got late to warmups and just started falling practice right away and ended up hurting my calf! Hard to remember that you not in your 20’s anymore! 🤣
Yeah...sometimes the heart wants to do stuff the body just ain’t able to do any more! Tuff pill to swallow. Appreciate the comment!
With respect, every school is different when it comes to white belts coaching. The school I attend takes it on a case by case basis. I'm a fourth stripe white belt, currently involved in the gracie fundamentals/intermediate sport jiu jitsu programs in my school. Our school is a gracie garage, not a CTC. I think with us, it depends on the white belt. If they've been around long enough and show that they know what they're talking about (when it comes to fundamentals only) then they can coach the new guys a little bit. I'm the senior most white belt at our school (been in Jiu Jitsu for just over three years) and have become the one they send new guys to. The senior belts have told the new guys right in front of me that they "were in good hands". I've got 34 years of martial arts training under my belt, two black belts out of five styles that I've studied (including BJJ) and have experience with teaching. I'm one of the few men that the ladies will roll with because I have more control over my body and they know I won't smash them.
Make no mistake. I'm not some awesome BJJ practitioner. I still suck, but at least I don't hurt them.
Even the purple belt coach at fundamentals will look to me once in a great while when she's having a brain fart to see if what she was doing is correct.
From 1-3 stripe, I felt REALLY uncomfortable with giving ANY advice, because I felt like I wasn't knowledgeable enough to do it. But once I got my fourth stripe, the head coach pulled me to the side and told me that I'm basically breathing on blue belt because of what he's seen and my experience. I just need to roll more with bigger guys to build up that pressure tolerance (I myself am 6'4, 225 and am bigger than most of the folks in intermediate). In fundamentals, if I'm instructing a new guy and one of the coaches come up, I shut my mouth and let them speak. Whatever they say goes, period.
But it goes without saying that in intermediate, I keep my mouth shut unless it's to ask questions. If I talk during rolls, it's with someone junior to me, and that's only if they're obviously struggling...otherwise I'm just giving them words of encouragement, because let's face it, we could all use that.
I take my comment for your other video back thank you for getting into some real Brazilian jujitsu
Thx for the heads up! I’m starting BJJ after over 21 years of Tae Kwon Do AND I’m a 47 year old, 6’2” 230#er (with a year and a half hiatus due to COVID protocols) so many of these things are well worth the mention. As I’ve had several years of experience teaching junior belts in self defense, I’m going to need to bite my tongue and shut the h3ll up cuz I know some joint locks but most while standing and more traditional Japanese styles - NOT BJJ! That said, I was well into a place where we’re all there to learn/help each other and not kill one another so I’m planning on learning with an open mind across the board. Looking forward to wiping my slate clean and starting from square one in a new martial art (particularly a practice that will supplement what I’ve already learned). These are great videos. Keep em up cuz they’re making a difference! I’ll let you know how these creaky bones manage and how that humble pie tastes by the truckload 😂
I’m 46 so I completely understand about the creaking and cracking…😂🤣😂….at least we’re not just sitting around, though! Tae Kwon Do and BJJ = great combination of standup, take downs and ground game! Awesome!!! Appreciate your support! 🙏
I started BJJ after about 20 years, and counting, of Tang Soo Do (what TKD dreams of being) (just kidding, sort of). I'm now a 1 stripe blue in BJJ but still teach TSD and it was hard to turn off the teacher mindset while rolling BJJ. BUT, I do love bringing my wristlock and stand up game!
The point on choking on guard can be a lil bit tricky, u have like amassa pao or ezequiel to do that
Fair enough. Thanks for commenting
Just went white belt hard on the burrito I got for lunch. Some habits you just can't break
🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣
What mistakes have you made or witnessed while training? I love reading the comments so - let me know!
Man Unfiltered I poked a professor at a competing school in the eye when I wasn’t brand new, very awkward and I felt terrible
Everyone knows you have to be a purple belt before you slack or skip on the warm-ups. 🤣
Lol...I ain’t there yet (purple) ...so I’m still going through the routine. 😂😂😂 appreciate the comment!
We are already tired from having just taught the previous class or a one on one class. We aren’t slacking - we’re tired ! 🤪
Can Confirm
Maybe one day I will try BJJ, but in the meantime, I will check out these and other similar videos.
Awesome! Thank you! Should at least give it a try …
@@midlifebjj I'm 60, and I don't see me doing it until around 65 because... commitments. But I do love all martial arts. Did many years in the Korean stuff, currently into wing chun. The only one thing I feel I have left to try is BJJ. One day!
#3 is the reason I left the BJJ gym I was going to. The class was HUGE, like 20-25 people with only 1 instructor so I was being taught by other students, many being white belts too, simply because the instructor was too busy
Sucks..are you still rolling?
@@midlifebjj I plan to, Im trying a new gym out next week. It's the only other gym in my area so I hope this one works out
Me too…let us know if it does or doesn’t…praying it works out for you!🙏
This is an issue at most gyms, you gotta seek knowledge
One of my rolling buddies, who is a white belt, always tells me, “Today is the day!” He’s been training for months and I have been training for years. We laugh, but deep down I know he’s serious. Lol! 😂 But I know for new guys, tapping a purple belt is a huge victory. However, for higher belts it is just another day.
I know...especially when you're an upper belt and and older guy...I'm not an upper belt but being over 40 - getting tapped by a 4 stripe white belt that is athletic and 20 years old....not a problem for me...absolutely no ego. thanks for commenting!
@@midlifebjj Not a problem and true indeed!
My apologies, I am guilty. But, I understand now.👍
I'm a Purple belt and I still don't coach guys while rolling. If they ask I will give feedback after we're done.
You sound like the kinda BJJ dude I wouldn’t mind rolling with! Thanks brother
As a judo guy i find the idea of not coaching as weird.. Like Im an experienced white belt and even purple belts seldom give me advise.. I think BJJ needs to have more communication when rolling. Maybe its just people egos that are the problem
Very fair assessment...in some of the BJJ schools I’ve been to, the 2 stripe white belt is trying to teach on the sidelines.....that’s little early...a purple belt is absolutely capable of coaching....😂😂😂 - appreciate your comment and support! 🙏👊
I guess further more. I'm saying this culture carrys onto white belts not being able to coach when they can.. if a guy is on his knees leaning over my guard open for a scissor I need to explain how a good base works.. i don't think its healthy to be in an environment where that can be seen as arrogant or a know it all attitude. Giving advise is relative to skill level, even within belt class
I think it’s that the coaches feel you may be telling the person a technique or position etc...but may actually be missing a key step or instruction and inadvertently cause more damage than good. Again, situations and people are different. Maybe you’re a fast learner...and know exactly how to help while another white belt may have no clue but still offer up advice (albeit poor advice)....because of this - the coach / professor would have to be consistent with the rules....just a thought but what do I know....I’m just a blue belt...😂😂😂
White belts need to shut the fuck up plain and simple they know NOTHING
I too think that is good and legit pining and holding them, to get a good control before attacking, is essencial. Pacing the match too, breading, etc. I m Not a promoter of in guard submission attempts, but if you are caught by a deep
triangle, and is too late for posture etc, you can try a desperado move like “amassa pão” some times it works. I don’t know what is a can opener, but if is legal is ok. Neck crunks, panturrilhas (don’t know the name in English) etc are part of the game too, bitching as they are...
I think pacing is fine...I don't like getting held in a position for 5 minutes of a 6 minute sparring roll....I don't learn anything except how to sit there and wait...then ask the professor what I did wrong. Appreciate your comment and support!🙏👊
Man Unfiltered if that is the case I understand. But you are always learning, did you try every escape that you know? What was the problem? what can I try next time? Etc.. always learn. My ego in the mat is almost none, just like to have fun. Btw blue 3 stripes and 42. 5 year’s. 💪
Yeah - i tried everything...dude was big and strong...had me kesa gatame but I’ve since learn to escape. I’m 45 - 3 stripe BB but feel like a 1 stripe white belt most days. 😂😂😂Appreciate your support.
Man Unfiltered think like this: 1st he didn’t win too and he was bigger and stronger. If I cant frame before de Kesa-gata me is fully on, the chances of escape gow down drastically, if he as control of your lose arm than the only way is escape by the back is worse. That is a tricky pin... remember he could attack your harm 2 diferentes ways and he couldn’, If it was me look to it almost like a win. Helio gracie style! If I don’t tap you don’t win. Rickson gracie “if a smaller person can hold dawn a bigger one for some minutes until the police comes is a big big victory” . It’s the half full half empty type of dilema.
I got submitted in kesa-gata many times and different ways. Once with a neck crank.
Sorry for the English hope you get the point. Keep strong 💪
Nice video sir 🤜🤛
Thank you! Much appreciated! 🙏
@@midlifebjj being a small guy (5'3") blue belt, I'm always the target to be rolled by bigger newbie white belts 😅
pidyong crsz I see that a lot...especially when the white belt gets a few techniques down...I personally think it’s an ego thing...and in my experience - most experienced folks don’t like it...but I guess that’s the way it goes...thanks for commenting!
pidyong crsz I’m (5’1) I’m possibly going to be jumping into bjj. I see that coming in my distant future then lol good thing I use to wrestle and played defensive tackle at the semipro level and so I’m use to that process of “pick out the little guy.” I never really minded it though.
@@jamisondiehl6141 wow! You actually have an edge in grappling. I guess your built is stocky and it's really an advantage esp in takedowns. I know you'll get hooked in BJJ once you tried. Let me know your experience just incase, but I know you'll love it 🤜🤛
#3 hits home for me, leave me the F alone bruh, I'll ask the professor if I need help.
Had my first class on Friday and I was definitely going white belt hard hahaha this purple belt asked me to roll and beat my ass !!
White belt for life!
@@midlifebjj i hope not ! But I’m excited man, after the class the purple belt came up to me and gave me some advice and why he was going hard with me(my ego might have not been left at the door) lol after that little convo I skipped the free trial and signed up ! Your vids have been very helpful and has given me insight. Thanks man !
Rock on brother! Appreciate the feedback. We all go white belt hard from time to time...🤙😂 keep it going my BJJ brother!
I think it depends HOW the white belt is giving advice. If its a striped white belt who is being humble, trying to sharing information, and with the caveat "make sure you ask the teacher so I'm not telling you the wrong thing" then I don't see a problem. But if it's their first day and they're tutoring you with that "I'm the teacher" vibe and think they know what they're talking about, then that's super annoying
I have been training bjj for around 2 and a half months and just got my first stripe. I love to help people when they do something wrong but only when its just the technique trainings. Like if he doesn't tighten his guard proparly or of course my favourite how to NOT squish your balls when you try to armbar xD been there and I don't wish for anyone to feel it.
Fair enough and I’m sure much appreciated!
funny story about getting choked while in my own guard. I think it's fine just to test the defense or counter sub of the bottom guy.
Was like the 9th round of rolling then got paired up with the always all-in foreign spaz at our gym. (also white belt). Lowkey also wanted to have some energy after class since I had a date after. Was told I'd be paired up w my buddy who going to compete that weekend in the next round so I decided to just chill and coast in my guard for the current one. Wrong decision! I was just chilling and smiling at the guy for 4 minutes since I have pretty decent guard retention when resting. He just decided to go for a collar choke that didn't feel like it was that bad until I started day dreaming. Friend woke me up and I suddenly sprawled. Didn't get to roll w my friend after to help him unfortunately. Date went great though lol
😂 at least it didn’t negatively impact the date! Appreciate the story.
Dang it. I’m 1:6. I hope. Got room to improve!
😂 we all do! Appreciate the comment!
men i commit one of this mistakes and not even in BJJ but in boxing i'v been boxing for more than a half year and sometimes i see someone that its doing it wrong and i go tell how to do it, all i want to do its help and support new people but thinking of it it can seem like you feel that you know everything or some like that.So i will focus more on doing myself the right things and not pretending to be their couch. Thank you
I think this is a great approach! You coach by doing it the right way! 🙏👊
can we talk about getting framed in the esophagus lol? that shit sucks. 1 month of sore throat.
I choke people while I'm in there gaurd. But I have long arms though so..
Are these people you're choking white belts? Usually an armbar is waiting for people who stretch and choke people in the guard...I've seen it done but not on higher belts...so just wondering. Appreciate the comment. 🙏
Do you consider nose-raking in sparring a jerk move? I know it’s legal in competition, but I don’t come to training to have my nose pushed out of place because I’m defending properly and my opponent is desperate. I come to learn and have fun.
Man...that's a tough question. I think it's definitely frowned upon in some places. I know I'd get a bit angry if someone started crushing my nose while I'm rolling. I get it, street and comps....but it the school...I think it's good to teach but not good to do to your teammates. Would love to hear some more seasoned folks chime in on this one though. Sorry I can't be of more help. I don't like it. I wouldn't do it to my teammates. I wouldn't want it done to me! 👊🙏
Man Unfiltered thank you man! Would be good to field some responses and make a video debating this. I don’t wanna roll with this one person again (he also starting wrenching on single fingers to break my Guillotine) but don’t wanna come across lacking comraderie. I personally think only okay for competition specific sparring when a comp is coming up. However o haven’t trained BJJ for very long so not sure how much my weight my opinion holds
Wrenching single fingers is a no-no! This guy needs to learn how to properly escape...I mean he’s just short of eye gouging! I might try to figure out how to put this into a video to get some opinions! It’s important!
I have been found guilty on all 6 counts. Dang it.
Me too…at some point! You’re in good company 😂
I kinda halfway coached a Newby but bro .... I had to
😂 Sometimes it’s necessary
Went yesterday firs time and tried to submit blue belt and up in crusafiction
But almost submitted him also.
I'm doing kattalbells for 5 years now
Is beeng strong advantage in Jiu-jitsu?
Awesome - appreciate the update and - yes, Strength does matter if you and your opponent are at the same level from a technical perspective. Been Kettlebell training for a few weeks now to support my BJJ as well.
What’s your opinion on me telling my partner mid roll to slightly adjust their choke? I’ve had 2 situations where my partner caught me in good chokes but was just doing one tiny thing wrong and couldn’t finish it because of that, I tell them the tiny adjustment that makes me tap to help them understand what wasn’t working
If it were me (at purple) - I’d try to escape the move before I helped the person adjust the choke. Why?: because I’m learning BJJ as well - and there may be a situation (competition, street or simply another day on the mats) where the same thing could happen…so I’d want the practice of escaping chokes…(albeit weak chokes)…but it’ll get me into the habit of escaping. As I roll, I want to get reps in…if I stop to adjust my partners choke, I’ve cheated myself out of a rep. Once the roll is over, I’d definitely put myself back into the same position with my opponent to show them what they did wrong…it’s not as “in the moment” for my opponent, but I’ve covered my rep by not stopping and helped my opponent for their next roll. So I’d say between white and purple, practice your escapes…now if you’re a brown or black belt - do what you want…I can’t speak from those levels😊….hope this helps and this is just my opinion!
@@midlifebjj helps insanely thank you very much!!
Anytime! Appreciate the support
I don't coach white belts... But is it wrong like for ex. I am rolling with this new person.. Like is literally his /her 1st - 4th time trying out the class and while rolling I just tell them what lose guard is what half guard is... What the goal is which is mount and always grab something and don't extend your arms... Is that wrong... 🤔 Is that me coaching.... I feel like is helpful but that's just me...
No..I don't think helping is wrong...I may do a remake of this video. I don't want people thinking that helping is wrong...I was more thinking of actual coaching...sometimes you'll hear white belts trying to actually coach folks while rolling...
is it okay to laugh or play around a bit during technique practice but still learn and do the techniques properly at the same time?
I mean we’re all just a bunch of big kids on the mat. I find myself playing around a bit sometimes…but I try not to - especially with some professors. It just depends on who is teaching I guess.
Respectfully disagree about pinning. I may get scarf hold, want to get the arm bar, but need to wear him out. If he hates it that much, he can tap. Maybe I’m wrong but it seems to me that waiting to find an opening is better than flailing around just for the heck of it.
mike harvey so I agree with you...if you are waiting to catch a submission...what I meant to explain in the video (may have explained it wrong) is that if you are holding a position simply because you’re smoked and you’re waiting for the clock to run down...so in my opinion, two very different reasons to hold a position. Thanks for commenting and that’s why I started this channel - to get feedback from others so I really appreciate it!
Man Unfiltered it’s all good
Good luck on your channel👍
@@iamtheai2759 Thanks! I really appreciate your support.
I don't understand the don't choke while in the guard thing. Is it just risky? Is it not allowed within the rules? I'm looking at joining at jj gym and trying to get an idea beforehand.
We don't use "the guard" term in judo and sambo, but doing a choke or strangulation while in guard is difficult but works.
It’s risky. A decent BJJ practitioner can control the distance, sweep their opponent, or arm bar them…I just rolled with a guy who wanted to try BJJ out…showed him a few things…concept, guard, sweeps, etc…basics…he’s jacked-much bigger than me…he wanted to roll….so we did…during one of the rolls, he was in my guard - reached in to choke me with his forearm…on his feet with all his weight…I just used my hips to extend him away…as he continued to pressure, I tried to arm bar him…dude just curled me…so I swept him…pressure the lungs for the final tap…it’s worth noting that I was wearing a Gi and he wasn’t…he said he was going to sign up…we’ll see..hope he does…he’ll be an incredible opponent in a few months.
@@midlifebjj Thanks so much. I had my first class last night and all the ground techniques seem the same (not that I remember squat) but the strategy and framework seem really different. I appreciate the response!
Do you think you’ll stick with it?
@@midlifebjj I'm not sure. To be completely honest, I underestimated how long I'd been away from grappling. The weekend prior, I also had a shoulder injury get antagonized that hadn't caused me problems for 10 years. So I'm going to let that heal and think about it. But I may just sign up to the climbing gym and throw in the towel with martial art stuff all together. Or I might sign myself up for a few months just in spite of myself.
I agree dont coach during a roll, its obnoxious and patronising but i dont see why its wrong to give general advice if you happen to know something no matter what level. A three stripe white belt should have a few basic tips they can share with a new guy.
I liked the video but stalling is not a jerk move. When somebody is stalling on me I take it as a compliment and if I can't get out, then damn! I gotta tip my hat to my partner and deal better with it next time.
Glad you watched And liked it...I get what you’re saying but hear me out...if someone stalls for 4 minutes in a 5 minute roll…. No one is learning because no one is moving. If that does happen and I can’t get out...it’s on me to follow up with instructor later to ask what I was doing wrong…but stalling simply because you’ve got somebody stuck doesn’t help anyone progress…it’s okay to be strategic and stall for a short time…just my opinion…..Thanks for commenting 🙏👊
@@midlifebjj If somebody stalls for 4 minutes of a 5 minute round you could always tap
I’d rather die…🤣🤣🤣
Oh God I do the coaching thing I just say the same thing the coach tell me
Fair enough..at least you're regurgitating the right coach's information...not putting your spin on it. It's fine..we all do it.
the problem with the first thing, I think of white belts as button mashers, you have to keep trying anything you can because you know nothing.
Absolutely...not saying these are wrong - I did some of these things too....survival.
@@midlifebjj what i was trying to say is, if you keep mashing the buttons sooner or later you will do a combo, maybe you get into a position to do a armbar or you sweep the person without knowing how to sweep, and that encourages you into keep going, than you learn to pace yourself. i studied boxing and being frustrated because someone was beating me made me go harder and use up more energy. as I learned more the Frustration went away because i didn't feel so clueless
Ahhh got it! Appreciate the clarification! Thanks for commenting and watching. Your support is greatly appreciated!
Sounds like a quote from Chewjitsu “button mashers” 🤔
I have had a 4 stripe white belt tell me to not forget to breath. I didnt think it was bad, becuase I realised I wasnt breathing....
This made me chuckle out loud! Yeah, breathing helps with things like arm bars, escapes and LIFE! 🤣🤣🤣 - appreciate the laugh, man!
PS: I've been there multiple times by the way.
I don't think it's wrong to share the broad strokes as a white belt. Make the new person feel comfortable. Someone needs to tell you the school culture. I wouldn't try to teach but, "breathe", "take it easy" and "coach hates it if you do..." are things I feel comfortable sharing.
Agreed.
Completely wrong about choking from the guard, but I know its embedded in your mental conditioning from early on. My son had 3yrs Judo prior to starting BJJ so he has a great cross collar choke. His brown belt instructor dared him to try cross collar so he did and choked him lights out (was not intentional). The instructor went off with the fairies and dreamed he got the armbar. As they did privates together the instructor asked my son to go over it with him and again and again the instructor could not counter his cross lapel. He brought it up in the next class and had all the higher belts attempt to counter my sons cross lapel but at first they couldn't. When a way out was finally found my son showed them the only way out was putting themselves in a very compromised position. Needless to say the instructor no longer teaches his students that old chestnut all thanks to a 1 stripe white belt. And yes it was brought up and replicated with the head of that BJJ branch and has been taken under deliberation, no response has ever come back but I have seen other members of this club dropping that teaching now so I assume he's been going over it with some of his best teachers and they're seeing the problem
Competition or self defense? To be honest, I’ve had tight chokes put on from the guard but there are ways around it (in self defense)....I’m not knocking your son or instructor...why don’t you send me a video of that cross collar choke... would love to take a look at it..was your son much larger than the instructor? There are anomalies but I have yet to see this and to see a white belt do this to a brown belt..:I’m not buying it, man...can you send a video. You can blame it on mental condition but that mental conditioning stems from an art that’s older than the both of us...so you’ll have to excuse the skepticism generated due to a random YT comment claiming that a 1 stripe white belt choked out a BJJ brown belt. I trust you can see where I’m coming from.
@@midlifebjj lol they advocate as a self-defence but its completely sport. My son hasn't trained for a while now and has never competed, probably why he is still a 1 stripe white belt lol. The gym where he was training though was extremely competitive and had some tough players. Yea he was bigger than the main coach but other guys bigger than my son in the gym.
Im not a BJJ player to know the intricacies but I think its got to do with shifting his hip to one side and bearing down weight with one elbow, also trapping the leg so the counter is stopped before its even implemented. Trying to prepare for counter before hes even attempted the cross lapel puts the person in guard off base/game and my son would take advantage of that. The guys eventually adapted to it like you say, but they no longer teach to let people cross collar them without first looking at the person's body positioning. Ill chat my son and reply to you tonight after he's finished work.
This is interesting...something I would love to learn, use (then share after I tap people out 😂😂😂) the game is forever changing so....appreciate the insight! 🙏
I help and like to train brand new people. Who have no idea what they are doing. During the roll we instead drill or flow a drill and we work through it together of the days lesson. I am guilty of coaching the band new people. Everyone with a little experience I leave alone. They my competition. I dont help them beat me🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I do the same, man. I can’t help myself....if I see someone struggling like I did early on, I feel like I need to simply share what I did wrong and how I fixed it...not coaching just sharing...maybe it’s coaching but I struggle with not helping others cause I love sharing! That’s why I started TH-cam. 🙏 you’re in good company. 😂
@@midlifebjj at our club doing that is encouraged for the brand new people. For the rest we try and figure it out together. Like once we did a flow. I was with the brand new guy. Told him all you have to do is get past the legs when you on top. That helped him alot
I’m guilty of this. Only those very new and mostly when they get frustrated. I will say something like “breath”, “ relax” or tell them to think about where they are and what they want to do. The most I’ll do is say “you’re in my guard. You want to get out of my guard” or “don’t panic, I’ve got you in side control, you want to regain guard” That’s the most I do and it’s only when rolling with someone in their first month. I’m very careful not to screw them up. I’m also regularly paired up with the brand new guys. I think they trust me not to cause too much damage.
My friend...I still do this...I can’t help myself...if someone is struggling and they are new...I want to help. I think it’s difficult because we’ve been through it and know how frustrating it is....the other day I was sitting against the wall, waiting on the next roll....I was watching my professor as he focused on the folks rolling... I don’t coach from the sidelines...not my responsibility + I’m not skilled enough. BUT - I do watch the rolls carefully for my benefit. As I watched, I saw a blue belt rolling with a purple and noticed a few mistakes the blue was making....that the purple capitalized on. I thought to myself how frustrating it must be for the professor to see the mistakes because he’s been through all of it....plus I noticed that when he rolls, he doesn’t coach while rolling.Afterwards he may drop some knowledge on mistakes made but not during the roll (usually) - I’m going to (try) and stop coaching during a roll...I’ve cut back but the desire to help surfaces every now and again....as always, Scott- appreciate your support on this channel! Be well🙏 PS: stop by for a visit - it’d be awesome to get some rolls in with you!
I used to think I'd like to help out new starters, but when I got a barrage of white belts coaching me I realised how annoying and patronising it was so I like to keep my mouth shut during rolls.
Never understood the whole white belts can’t teach white belts (striped) like I had a higher white belt ask me for advice or what’s my game plan in mount then proceeded to show them got called out by a brown belt I was like sure bud 🤔
1. just feels rude to say go ask a higher belt almost like you don’t wanna give away your “secret tactics”
2. I always believed no matter what anyone can teach you something because they have a different perspective, game plan, build, etc.
3. I believe it’s sad that brown belt thinks so closed minded that you can’t learn something from a white belt even if they are a wrestler
Idk what y’all think ? (and no I wasn’t full on drilling having a mini private with them just explaining and demonstrated them what I do since they were a visual person)
I think it just depends on the situation. My issue is that white belts may miss the small details that are only acquired through years on the mats. So they (unknowingly) pass on and teach a less effective/efficient method…again, this depends on the situation. Appreciate your perspective and comment. 🙏
@@midlifebjj very true I’ve gotten bad advice as well from others but it was simply like I just keep my hips low and knees tight to keep the mount better and my go to submission from there. I always add the whole disclaimer of this is “my” thing doesn’t mean it’s the best for you or the right way I’d just ask the teacher.
Maybe I misunderstand the white belt coaching comment. If I'm doing something wrong, I don't care what belt is coaching me into a better grip and body placement.
Fare enough...just make sure it's correct...which may be tough since both of you are new. Just a thought.
I have to say man I disagree with you on a white belt coaching another new white belt. Yes maybe you shouldn’t coach them whole rolling. But for example say a white belt is simply helping a brand new person by explaining to them how to pumble during a warm up or something like that I don’t see an issue with that. Or explaining to them how to do certain little things as long as they are teaching them the correct way ive never understood what the big deal was.
Fair enough...a white belt that has been training for 1 month is more advanced a than the person that just put their belt on for the first class---so sure, in cases where a white belt can help - why not...Who am I to tell anyone what to do and...heck, most of these things I've done myself...its why I make these videos - to try and help others avoid my mistakes....I'm always learning though and I agree with your point. Appreciate the comment! 🙏
I cannot stand mofos who are coaching your training partner when you are i a middle of a roll. It's supposed to be a learning experience, it frustrates both rolling partners.
😂😂😂 I know...especially when they call out a sub I’m bout to slap on....