Artist CLAIMS It's Not AI, Public Not So Convinced
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ม.ค. 2025
- What are your thoughts about this art piece, and some of the other pieces of this artist? Do you think they're legitimate, or is it traced off AI art?
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The big thing is to remember that ARTISTS can sketch/draw like that but they always adjust and erase things, THAT Artist in the video did NOT do such things. Please support real artist
Also- not an artist- isn't the sketch a little TOO detailed? It looks more like a copied coloring book page than anything. Like the detail on the horns, where the eyebags go-
@@goingferalluvs The hair is actually too detailed since most of the Artist don't sketch their hair like that, the other details (Clothing, horns) are completely normal (For me atleast, there could be other opinions)
@YunYunShorts okay I don't know how horns and such but the hair? Yeah even with my short art history I don't ever remember any tutorial putting detail into the hair during sketching.
@@goingferalluvs There are artstyles and in some artstyles artist draw some Hair strands in their sketches but not TOO detailed. This artist drew the hair as if they were a beginner (Beginner mostly draw every strand of hair) but that artist can also render good and that is very suspicious
was gonna comment this! yes! no thumbnails, no erasing, no movements/adjustments, no swatching/changing colors. This artist is better than the fundamental masters put them in a museum!
She was just caught claiming a Michael Zavros painting was an "original" piece by her in a traditional media (and subsequently shut down her insta lol), so I think we can all surmise just how truthful she's being about this not being AI, lol.
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LOL, well, her silence speaks volume , she shot heself in the foot XD
@@katnchathello I’ve been watching u for a long time there was this girl called tutkiwi and I called her out and ending up getting a lot of hate
@@nerixh2090What did she do?
@katliente Honestly I think she's showing the video in reverse.. meaning she's using the eraser tool to remove colour!
And playing it In reverse gives the appearance that she's drawing it herself.
For instance, she could have ran the image through a tool/software that separates colour sections into their own layers.
Making it pretty easy to do the eraser reverse effect.
With the "sketch proof" there's something in procreate called private photos, where you can put an image in the procreate canvas and it won't show up on the recordings, they probably did that for the speedsketch, putting the ai art and tracing/sketching over it
Edit: when I mean recording I mean that procreate makes a recording out of your progress and turns it into a speed paint and that's what this "artist" is showing off.
That’s exactly what I thought happened too
omg, thatS' 100% what happened then, my other guess was ai shenanigans, a sketchify tool or they printed the ai generated picture nad putted on top of their ipad lol... didn't know that was a thing in procreate since i dont have it
... it wont show up in videos? I assume you mean in videos created in procreate? Because the video of the drawing was taken from a separate device...
@@mermadicamerican7754yes the Timelapse in procreate!
@@mermadicamerican7754 procreate makes video recordings of your progress and shows it off to you as a "speed paint".
Oh hell nah. They outted themselves fully when they said they'll take the "it looks AI" comments as compliments. It is not a compliment if your work as a legitimate artist is compared to AI. AI art makes so many mistakes, looks so generic, steals so many other peoples' art, etc that it's an insult if you worked hard on something and it ends up being called AI. Only people who mess around with AI art thinks it looks good.
Yep. Cus I see artists where their art is absolutely being used to train AI and they're very upset about it being compared to AI art
Yeah, I feel uncomfortable with the idea of anyone thinking my art is
Agreed. I've seen actual artists falsely accused of using AI by people who think all good art is AI (and I know for sure they aren't using AI because I'd been following them long before it was a thing and their style has remained consistent and many of them will post frequent WIP that look like what you'd expect from a real artist). It really hurt those artists to be accused of using AI when they drew everything themselves. Some of them got angry. Not a single person thought comparing their artwork to AI was a compliment.
@Pipkiablo indeed, heavily resonate with this comment.
when people say ‘oh my god that’s unreal, did you do that with AI? You PAINTED that?!’ I have such mixed feelings
It's so obvious - it hurts my eyes. Also: the type of "sketching" you can see they don't typically draw. Most people who are faking it sketch like that :,D
Was gonna say this exactly. It's very easy to tell a sketch someone copied from a preexisting work from a sketch done as the first step to an original artwork.
Dave and Busters' photobooth "sketch" filter
i mean, no initial guidelines or planning of ANY sort? and there are outlines of every little detail? not at ALL what even the most experienced artists' sketches look like. classic tracing.
They could have at least chosen another style of ai art, the one they chose is genuinely the worst, for some reason it hurts my existence
@@BoneBugg Some people don't have to plan
I know this is AI, but something kat didn’t say about the layers is that when combining the layers the numbers aren’t in order, and the first layer gets mixed into 2 or 3. I do this, I combine all my sketching layers and then it becomes layer 3. The odd numbers in her art process makes sense when you think of it this way. BEAR IN MIND, I do think this is AI.
im using photoshop and also merge layers to optimize my work file. so i also dont have layer 1, 2 ,3 ever ahah
might vary from program to program, but in the one i use (firealpaca), if i merge my layer 1 into layer 2, the next time i make a new layer it will name it layer 1. it will always name the new layer the lowest currently unused number
The main giveaway for me was that the back horn on the chibi elf girl was REALLY weird, because it comes out of the hood instead of the forehead like the other horn
Hm, I don't see that. Judging by the video thumbnail, the far horn and hood do line up pretty tangent to each other, but I don't see any clear evidence of the horn going "through" the hood.
I was hunting down this comment as I was about to make it.
@@Stratelier The horn nearest to the us, the viewer, is in front of the hood. The other has the hood color between the hair and the horn, showing that it is going through the cloth.
This EXACTLY for me as an artist, I was staring at the piece and realized the horn was completely off
for me it was the entire shading + realism. the shading technique looks amateur while the rendering look extremely detailed and in the 'perfect' place. then the timelapse and everything else and the hood just gave it away. She can draw, she just chose to be lazy. like that one eye she did herself (before replacing it with the ai one after). she could do actual art... but no, lazyness and clout is more important than that i guess. She seem to have good observational skill, at least from the little we could see from the eye she did with reference from the ai pic... observational skill is important in visual art, honestly she should be ashamed for trying to cheat her way out when she could actually put effort and do it herself :l
I think sis got that mythical rendering brush that can produce hella colors at once (iykyk)
Luckyyy I need that brush 🤩😍
and she isn't even gonna share the multi colour magic brush :(((((
@@FoxGameCZ ikr 😭😭😭😭
The eraser shaped one?
You can see shes using the eraser at 6:19 if you pause
@@Faesharlyn you don't need to expose her like that 😭
I also ironically feel if you draw like this, youd actually have less layers. Since your 'paint' wont blend as well as if you were to paint onto the same layer
Also generally most people dont draw every little tiny line for a sketch if theyre gonna paint the details well. Like someone wouldnt sketch every hair strand only to then paint the hair lol
Yes!!! My more painterly styled work is on WAY fewer layers than my cell shaded stuff. I always merge the layers before I start blending or shading
This is a good point. Cell shade can have 200 layers but my paintings end with 1 to 4
Yeah, it can get frustrating too, I personally to a vibe type so I put the fur in the directions of the fur or hair.
Wow what a great point. I didn't even think about that but I can't think of anyone else who draws such detailed sketches.
So true! My comic style art: 32 layers. My extremely detailed down to the bloodvessels in the eyes digital portraits: 3 layers max lol
To me, the needless lines in the sketches REEK of an edge extraction filter, which will outline any point of high contrast regardless of whether it makes sense or not. It's particularly obvious in the clown's ruffle, which no one would EVER detail to that degree in the sketch phase, but probably creates enough high contrast shadows for the filter to think it's important.
Yeah, like if I know I'm adding color I wouldn't go through the effort of sketching the shading/highlight color lines first
they cant even trace ai art traditionally lol why am i not surprised. they want to do zero work drawing but so much work being deceptive. what a wild world we live in
Having such a detailed first sketch should have been a dead giveaway. Unsurprised that people who don't bother to draw dunno that most sketches have periods of being modified, erased, lasso'ed, redrawn etc. I def think that the 'rendering' being done is actually just erasing. Never colourpicked or changed a brush during it too.
As someone who has a history with pen and even ink painting, I don't think to use things like the eraser or lasso tool on sketch layers most of the time- just commit to the lines and roll with it.
But those lines seem to lack the confidence that someone should have if they can draw without any guidelines, shapes or tweaks.
Very sussy to me.
As a person who likes to use ballpoint pen only, you can still see me measuring out and putting dots in places I'm planning to draw something in, you can also see me "shifting" lines and hiding them in shadow when I make a mistake cuz I can't erase. I'd assume that if I used the same process digitally, I'd be shifting the "markers" to better suit the position I want instead of magically drawing everything in without any "markers"
Edit: grammar
@@Birdsflight44 exactly. The lines have no weight difference and are very scratchy. The small details have the same weight as big parts, making it crowded. Most artists that have evolved past major changes during the sketching process have a lot more line confidence than this
What bothers me is that she drew the pupil details in the sketch 😭 people dont do that with semi realism paintings (digitally atleast). Its usually done in the rendering/painting stage not sketch because its pointless. Like, she literally drew in the highlights for a coloured painting
Some people actually do make super detailed sketches. It's not super common but some people draw like that. (Not defending the ai person)
All the talking about the eyes & horns, but all the accessories are screaming the AI fails.. The head piece chain is going up into the horn, the hood is in front of the horn in the back, the necklace, the earring & all the weird dots on the forehead & nose.. Like wtf.. The hood at the front around the neck doesn't even match up with rach other.. & I can keep going..... Also the eyebrows hair is having it's own ways to go..
Also 7:47 when she’s showing the speed paint, she is hiding the brush/blender/eraser
Good look out I didn’t even notice.
I use procreate and it would never occur to me to hide my brushes or layers?? That’s something you have to consciously decided to do.
@@MoistNasawhenever I used to do digital id minimize the tabs at most they were almost always open. Yall got a good point on this one
Minimize as in size wise not minimize the actual tab id just make it as small of a window as I could
I don't know if I got it right but you mean they hid the brush selection tools? Like where it shows which brush you're using and what type? I personally don't use procreate as I don't have an iPad myself. But for me for example if you look at my speed paints I've posted you can't see me change brush either for the most part not because I purposefully hid it but because I use the Microsoft game recording thingy to record my speedpaints and it somehow would only record the main screen as is and any tab I'd open like changing brush or something that wasn't in my recent brushes (I use Krita and have all of my side tabs open or else I can't draw anything) it wouldn't show. But it makes sense here. She probably doesn't want you to know she's not even switching brushes probably. Because even on my recordings it shows my floating cursor clicking and moving around the screen when I'm picking a new brush. Like you can tell I'm doing something you can't see. Which could also indicate me possibly switching brush to erase with aswell. I'm not denying that.
@@nikitatavernitilitvynova there’s 4 buttons (the brush selection tools and layers) she either unintentionally hid from her recording or she just cut them out (which why??) also your art is soooo pretty
The way she "sketches" and "renders" just screams "fake process". She's fulfilling all the stereotypes of how tracers/art thieves try and prove their work and it's honestly not surprising a lot of non-artist do not see why artists say she's tracing or erasing stuff to show the AI image underneath. In Procreate you can create "secret layers" that won't get recorded by the timelapse.
Me personally for example, I use these for when I drag in a lot of references I don't want to clutter the canvas for the final speedpaint with, so I just put them onto the invisible layers. But this is also used by a lot of tracers that "draw" in Procreate to layer the image underneath and trace above, so it looks like they're magically creating intricate artwork.
Whether this person is using ai or not, I still don’t get why ai artists don’t put this much effort to just learn how to draw and drawing themselves, like they could’ve spent those nine hours ACTUALLY drawing, and not pretending to draw this?? It’s just so weird.
A lot of people never learn the difference between actually doing something and other people acknowledging that you did a thing.
As long as it gets done, it doesn't matter, riiiight?
Seriously though, this is a real phenomenon- people can actually convince themselves of these lies. Things like BPD can make people lose a grip on reality.
When they think they deserve something, especially if they think they approximate that skill, then they'll cheat with few qualms.
I'm not diagnosing, just pointing out that this kinda behavior is something humans actually seem quite predisposed to.
We don't even have a good grio on reality in the first place until well into development as children. Being better than this is something a lot of people have to be taught. And that's okay- as long as they figure that shit out at a reasonable pace. You're responsible for that by adulthood though, ffs.
Even mental illness isn't an excuse typically- Though people with cluster b conditions deserve some real grace when they are fighting their troubles. They're an at risk population who deserve compassion.
But you can't set yourself on fire for the folks among them who can't acknowledge they have a problem.
Because a lot of people have technical skills but can’t draw squat from imagination. That was me for YEARS. I’ve just now gotten to the point where I feel I can draw from imagination. It’s hard to develop your own style if you can’t draw from imagination because you can’t stylize something you can’t imagine. So you just get stuck faithfully reproducing references.
Cuz its hard
Problem is, a lot of these AI ‘artists’ are actually artists themselves and can draw just fine. It’s either content farming or ragebait.
Bc they just want the praise for a piece they're not skilled enough to create. That's all it is. They want the praise
LMAO i'm looking at the "sketch" at 21:51 and it looks like she traced the face line by line, but the process was so tedious, that on, like braid, elastics and clothing details she just gave up
those intricate jewellery and then just a blob for the elastic on the braid guys i can't
The fact that despite tech bros saying that ai is evolving to such heights no one will understand the difference anymore but public always knows what’s up gives me some hope.
It isn’t really AI’s job to fool people with art, the scope of error for ai is unlike the errors made by humans.
Ai is still not there yet, and the ai available to the general public is also not high quality. Ai is a tool, and must be used right
@@RadiumDecayis is true that if viewed as an useful tool meant to help artists, ai can indeed be pretty helpful but most companies view it as full replacement for humans.
@ not true, these were the same words said during the Industrial Revolution. I work in the computer science field and contrary to popular opinion, our jobs are safe. AI cannot work independently, it needs a machine learning program, the ability to recognise algorithms can only come if it is fed with structured data.
With unorganised data, the kind of ai can’t be used as a replacement at all. To manage ai, we need more jobs.
Let’s assume we do use AI to write our codes, in that case we would still have the job. Creativity if coming from algorithms would be repetitive, so we would use it for the tedious codes. Then the program would let us select the outcome which we think is the best.
There are various risks, but since ai is a relatively newer thing, I believe we can fix the current issues and use it as an effective tool for the future
@@RadiumDecay computer science coding jobs and jobs of creative skills like artists, animators, designers, writers etc are completely different with the way they go abt ai and the use of it.
Let me remind you that js recently Coca Cola and Honda made some ads that were completely ai generated and pretty much everyone disliked it, normally, these ads would’ve taken people with creative jobs like directing to make.
But since they were not used in the making of such ads due to them being completely ai generated those people with those jobs are at a risk.
Several massive studios and corporations are starting to lay off animators and voice actors or writers etc or pay them less, there was writers strike and VAs strike recently for those too.
Most companies (esp the tech bros there) don’t have much respect for talents so they think they’re replaceable thus end up getting ai to do the work instead for much cheaper so it can harm real people with creative jobs.
@ computer science lies in the creative field too, why did u differentiate it? And yes, a lot of jobs like voice acting would be replaced by ai, and that would only happen when ai improves, which it eventually will.
Now, ai cannot and should not be stopped, what do u suggest we do? Ai will take jobs no doubt, but will also create newer ones. If the process of this transition is slow, it would be better.
its the fact that they didn't bother to block in the colours and then start rendering, just went straight in with the rendering doing it block by block with no light guide
I do coloring like her too 💀💀💀 i color skin then render it without block in color in other objects like hair clothes etccc then after i color the skin then i color hair and❤render it ( im not defending the artist its so obvious they used ai ) 9:11
@@mary0mazthat's a normal process
The whole process is super sus. A sketch that looks like that shouldn't take an hour for an artist with that skill level. It looks like AI. Her sketch looks like she just traced an AI image. She has no idea how sketching works and it's so obvious, it's painful.
This is an argument I can get behind: If you are copying directly from a pre-existing image (AI or otherwise) you CAN often put down more or less final lines on the first try with a minimum of corrections.
it was a bad sketch too. it wasnt precise enough to act as lineart to be followed exactly, but was missing all the important info a sketch would give, such as volume guides, simpler shapes as part of one more complex shape (like using circles to define cheekbones, the tip of the nose, chin, anything).
No artist is perfect. Even the best in the world have to hide overdrawn lines, erase overhanging bits, or paint over colors that didn't fit well. We, as human, can't just spit out what's in our brains onto the page. AI, in a way, can, and THAT is why it's always obvious; these "artists" don't even remember that you have to have a base or that mistakes are a part of the process because they don't want to be an artist so much as have the title of one so trick those that don't know any better. That's why it's so scummy.
You know what pisses me off? If AI is so cool and awesome and futuristic and accessible, WHY TF ARE PPL PRETENDING TO BE A 'LOWLY' REGULAR ARTIST??? Don't pmo
Easy answer: To not being harassed by other people for using AI. I mean, even on X(Twitter) there are a lot of AI users uploading AI images and still people ask: It's AI? or say: "pick a pencil" or send hate because that account used AI eventhough the name would is "@ artist_AI" and in Bio say is using AI.
@@maxnamiI’m sorry if this is insensitive, but maybe they just shouldn’t use AI art in general? People don’t deserve to get their art stolen, and lying about not doing it to not be harassed isn’t justification.
because they are not , your are trying to "catch" and evil a.i bro in the act but shes just a regular artist, that why the anti a.i crowd is just a dangerous mob with pitchfork
Artist skill is respected, while AI user don't, so it's like copium of what being an artist feel.
Also why are they putting all the effort being fake artist while they can just use these effort in drawing and be real
Oh some aren't, I've seen some AI users saying that AI is much better and will replace normal artists so they're very proudly showing off that they use AI
16:50 there is a way she can colour pick then switch between pen and eraser without us knowing. She's using an apple pencil. Double tapping the flat part of the pencil will switch between eraser and pen/brush without any indication other than the current tool symbol on the toolbar changing. I use Procreate myself and always use that hotkey.
Oh my god I never knew that. I have to use an Apple Pencil because no 3rd party stylus works on the iPad Pro 1st gen 😂
Yep I use the double tap all the time - fun fact, it doesn’t have to be on the flat side. It works on all sides and I accidentally switch between them so often without realizing.
They never had to flip their canvass either.
No undo, no erase, fine you could be just painting over the mistakes instead.
As a traditional artist, I've never flipped my canvas....
But jokes aside, not everyone remembers to perform the flip test.
@@Stratelier Yeah I always forget haha
@@Stratelier And as a traditional artist, I do flip my canvas. I take a picture and flip it that way. I'm also a digital artist though, and the amount of times I haven't flipped the canvas until I've finished the line art is substantial.... My characters end up with a hard lean I gotta fx.
I never flip my canvas.....
Ehhh personally I don't flip often
I only really do it if I really don't like my art but that's mainly to get a perspective and not to fix things
I also do it once or twice lol
But everyone is different
And flipping the canvas is common advice so idk how often people flip
Adding the freckles, the details of the amulet, and the shiny thing on the nose before blocking out the ears and the horns is unimaginable for me. I go top down to the point that when I'm animating, I'll often drawn the rough shapes for the whole entire animation before I place any features like the ears and the eyes, even if the animation is made up of multiple shots.
Also, that smooth, shiny quality of the colors is generally a dead giveaway that the image is AI generated. I can't describe it better, but there's just that look to a certain brand of AI images, and the elf girl with horns has it
I don’t know how to describe the AI glowy look either, but it honestly makes me feel a bit nauseous. Is that weird? Like every time I see AI art there is this sickening uncanny saccharine glowy shininess that gives me a feeling that reminds me of eating way too many lollies as a kid and feeling sick.
@@rhoux8291it almost feels like the way things look in a dream, and it's uncanny
@@rhoux8291 Same.. It looks oily or something..
Tbh with your arm warmers with the bows. You’re giving off more of Alice in wonderland. 100% pretty outfit ✨👌
My first thought as well 🥹🖤
Frr I wanna know where to get some cute arm warmers like that from 😭💕
Once I saw this comment I thought Alice in wonderland without seeing your full comment! So you’re spot on!
Ima go make a fully rendered fanart piece for this outfit in one minute now 🤡🤡🤡🤡
(I’m joking Ai gives me the shudders 😖😖)
@@kirahhdropme too, when I saw the first seconds of the video, I thought of Alice.
Its the lack of erasing for me dawg wow
Based on what I see, I am very sure that she traces a drawing made with AI and then takes the colors from the reference given by AI and starts coloring it
Looks like this 30:13 is the only thing she actually drew but it didn't get as many likes so this artist decided to stick to Ai instead because that's what gets them more attention.
Hacked up the original photo into random layers
0:22 off topic but you give more Alice in wonderland vibes tbh and i LOVE IT
Omg I see it! 😻
First time watcher, took me a few seconds to notice she was not white lol. Addendum: Before she mentioned it. Does she think her hand, pen, etc. is fake?
Sometimes I feel like people who start drawing themselves keep comparing their art to others, and just settle for AI because they can't live up to the expectations they have for themselves. Of course, that's no excuse at all, but it is a rather sad theory
My entire life up until now I compare my art to others. My art is still pretty shit so I haven't shared it online or tried to use it for an extra little income on the side. WITH that fact, I still refuse to move over to ai because it all looks so overly polished and weird, uncanny is probably the right word.
I think that’s kind of where I’m at with my own art, but I discovered the magical world of ✨bases✨. I can pay a real artist for their base pose and make my own art off that instead of stealing from people with AI. But I think a lot of people don’t see AI as “that bad” and why they settle for it instead.
15:08 it's the way it's obviously ai because I don't know if you already said it but the horn is coming out of the hood?
the biggest givaway for me is the jewelery
The absolute no color changing and no background color or flat color is a nono.
The "sketch" is also sus, bc unless a style is uber simplified, perfect line art doesn't happen on a first draft, and even if the artist gets lucky that it's mostly there on the first round they still tend to erase and redo a couple of things slightly differently. Almost no art is a purely linear process. Also you can't be that good and still be that bad: A human artist who put in the hundreds maybe thousands of hours to learn to line and render like that would also have picked up the fundamentals required to not make rookie mistakes such as making the hair growth directions of the eyebrows look like they belong to different faces or the reflections in the eyes look like they are reflecting totally different scenes.
Since it was made in procreate, I think they used the private photo button to put the ai art and drew over it. Speedpaints not show the ref photo if it was a private photo. But the real footage is kinda weird🤔
It’s funny how all the sketch lines are all flat with no real variation yet she wants us to believe she can render that well?
That's exactly what I noticed. Mostly with tracing lines there isn't any line variation.
that's called an under drawing. it doesn't need lineweight because it's not part of the finished piece.
@ yeah and I would let that pass if it wasn’t so detailed it’s liek she was trying to pass it off as the sketch and the lineart as she goes straight into rendering after.
The rendering was ass tho lets be real
@@jaqssmith1666 This was I was thinking. It's funny to read all these comments and realize how no one draws the same. Nothing particular shows that this is AI but we all know that it is, or at least it's traced from one. The rendering isn't much to look at.
the sad thing to me is that if she put in the same amount of effort she puts into (allegedly) lying to people, she would actually be able to have legitimate improvements in her artwork- which however slow, would be much better than receiving attention for something you didn't do
29 minutes in, I Have a theory on why they don't have the early layers:
They have the actual AI artwork in one of those layers, then they remove the AI artwork layer and records them doing an eye or whatever, then stop recording, add the AI artwork layer back again and find the next thing they want to do work in, then when they are ready to draw again, they remove the AI artwork once again and starts the recording. Repeat untill the artwork is fully traced.
With the elf girl with the horns and the hood, even without the odd process the hood itself is like the biggest give away bc fabric doesn't work like that (the shading, the way its wrinkled and the way its shaped and attaches) and the horn disappearing into the shadow of it like that even tho the hood is behind it... Its just so obvious it hurts
Oh and the "shirt/dress" under the cloak the AI didn't even try to render omg...
I was drawing a portrait earlier today and was erasing and redrawing the eyelids for 10 minutes it was semi realism
“I will take your accusations as compliments” and that’s the nail in the coffin for me, I don’t know a single artist who would take that as a compliment. I think that says everything you need to know.
when people say ‘oh my god that’s unreal, did you do that with AI? You PAINTED that?!’ I have such mixed feelings. To people who can’t draw or paint, they think anything that looks difficult to render to them must be AI
ehhh i mean i would take that as a compliment kind of, ive seen some really "good" ai images that look like they were drawn by a real person, so if people thought my drawings were ai i would kinda feel good? probably lol. but i get ur point
10:10 the only time you see this is when realism artists draw from photos 1 to 1 which means that even if they drew that, it was a copy of an ai image
Okay, first of all.. excuse me?? What the hell was that sketch?? They drew those details as if they knew EXACTLY where they wanted the details to be. No planning at all. No erasing to fix anything. Nothing. Unless they had a reference or another sketch in the background where everything was in place, rarely anybody does that.
Ai is the worst thing that could happen to the people of the internet.
ai generated images*
10~ hours for such a high render drawing is really suspicious, I’ve spent wayy longer on way less rendered drawings
Some people are just that fast tbh. There are some artists that can crank out high quality work in just a half hour to an hour. Some four hours.Just comes with the mileage. Just lookup some of the artists on miiverse archives some where doing work that was pretty high quality in 30 mins to an hour. Everybody is different, what takes long for you or me could be quick or take a while. Just depends on the person. Have a good day.
Some artists do render their work in such short time (sometimes shorter), but that REALLY depends on their style and work flow.
Samdoesart with 2 hours, there is this one animator with 30 mins
Tbf I could do something like that in a couple of hours, but the process is basically the opposite of what the video shows. Speed just comes with experience, the more you understand about the fundamentals various techniques and tools the easier and faster making art becomes. The sus part is the process used in the rendering video is the way only someone who doesn’t really understand what they’re doing would draw, yet the quality of the final image (if we ignore the obvious AI elements) would require at least above intermediate knowledge and skill. The math ain’t mathing.
some artists are just quick and efficient. check out remarin, her art is very high quality and she gets it done in about an average of 2 hours or more.
TikTok has been having such a big issue with people posting ai art and claiming it as their own. The other day I saw someone ask someone for a speed paint and they told them that they forgot to record one when they were drawing on procreate! Like it automatically saves one, that’s how I knew it was ai.
some people with low storage and slow processor switch it off to save space and power
You can have it turned off or on, so not having a recording doesn’t really mean anything on it’s own. I don’t usually record my art because I have no reason to. That’s a non-issue for real artists because you have your drafts, layered files, and of course the ability to literally just draw in front of people if there’s ever a valid reason to need to prove your art is your own.
i was trying to tell the ppl in her comments but theyre so dense
literally everyone was flaming her what are you on
@evelynhugo7_ wow someone's pissy. Almost no one was in her comments when the video was fresh dear which is when I was talking to her direct audience thank you? Damn so fucking weird
a lot of the ones r actually defending her it’s wild
@quiwing exactly. Not to mention I was the earliest viewers where no one else knew yet i felt insane😭👎🏽 the other comment made me giggle
As someone that used to trace images (for practice, they were never posted or anything) her lines look EXTREMELY similar to how mine looked while I was tracing. The fact that her lines for the sketches are as thin and perfect as they are is most of what’s reminding me of how traced art generally looks
That clown drawing especially. The second I looked at the hands I knew it was traced because that’s just how traced hands look. That’s not saying that it’s impossible for someone to draw hands like that normally, but it’s extremely suspicious when it’s paired up with all the other signs she’s showing of it being traced
Had this on my FYP today and the comments were absolutely hilarious trying to defend this
There's something that i noticed, but I'm not sure if you've mentioned it yet. But that elf girl's left horn literally came out of the hood, like it's connected somehow. But it's different from her right horn that is obviously in front of the hood. And not to mention the position of both horns are in different parts of her head. AI is the worst and people who use and claim it as their own art are fakers.
5:20 i have a friend who works like that and he does constantly render one thing more than the other (like, give it more texture or more lightning than the other) which means he has to go back a LOT during that kind of process, to keep his drawing consistent, and this "artist" doesn't do that also, it's good to point that out, even in styles that you render chunk by chunk, you have to go back constanty.
The thing is, Procreate doesn't show when you erase something, when you use ctrl+z it will delete the whole part you just drew from the 'speedpaint' that's why I'm still suspicious about this being ai or not 🥲
But like even if it is real, this person has real shitty anatomy knowlegde compared to their shading knowledge 💀
@ it's not about earasing, it's about returning to other places of the drawing to keep consistency. The person did keep the drawing consisten tho they only touched the eye area, for example, just once!
I draw a "block by block", only because I use references for my art and I'm not someone who would lie about using references! I draw purely for fun, so I typically redraw my favorite scenes or characters from my favorite shows, so when I draw something that already has everything laid out, it looks like it's block by block. But even then, I still have to have a "sketch" phase where I draw the general forms/shapes (like the body, face, hair, etc.), and then I add the tiny details (line shading, eye details, etc.) later on because I learned that when I get a little too confident/comfortable without finishing the rest, the proportions end up wrong. 😭
So even if you sped up the videos where I use references (I should probably post them sometime!), you could still see where I erased and went back on my mistakes, sometimes continously before being content and moving on to complete the rest.
So yeah, even for me, the way they "sketched" was incredibly weird too!
I hate AI scammers sm
What really gives it away for me is the jewelry on the head. It's obviously traced lines from a pre-rendered piece, where they don't quite understand what they're tracing so they're doing the lines wishy-washy, where the previously rendered piece had light and shadow parts with strong reflections, that the artist wouldn't be able to replicate without putting guide lines (that don't make sense), because they can't understand the lighting, shading, cast shadows, reflective nature of that part.
She's super sus, this is ai art not real art, and maybe stole it as well, so she's ai user, art stealer and does not make real digital art, and she's super sus. If tiktok gets banned = good news
1:45 If the person really want to prove that they're not using AI should just add random doddle and that math problem
Yeah we're getting so used to AI images in general and we can just tell at a glance, artist or not. Well usually at least, us younger folk. But we can tell LOL
non-artists trying to fake being an artist will never not be funny to me cuz they be doing things that most artists dont do... its like a "how you do, fellow kids?" sort of situation
Bruh, always ai
If not ai, tracing
I think she's tracing and copying an AI generated image. She draws each draws each blocky segment like someone would if they were copying a photo.
well... you was saying about layer 1... I always do the sketch and delete it later, so almost never I have layer one...
17:51 you can tell it's not real because any actual artist would not see "AI art" as a compliment
when people say ‘oh my god that’s unreal, did you do that with AI? You PAINTED that?!’ I have such mixed feelings. To some people they think if it looks too good it’s AI, but maybe I should take it as a personal insult if they don’t think I’m capable and just have cheated/am trying to pass it off as my own
@@SobrietyandSolace my personal take on that is you should be annoyed that they're discounting your work as something done by a machine.
Like, I am a programmer. I pride myself on creating a lot of my stuff from scratch (maybe a little more than necessary). I would be annoyed if someone said "cool project. What library did you use to do all that?" Because _I did it myself_.
They are passing your work off as being done without much effort, and they cannot appreciate or see the small details of your work, from your time working on it.They instead attribute it to a tool that glosses over all the fine details you put in.
Another thing I noticed about the elf piece is that the hood disappears, or looked as if it did. When it melts into the ear it doesn’t continue behind it- the hair doesn’t cover ALL of that, especially with how loose looking the hood is supposed to be?? Idk- MAYBE THATS JUST ME
i noticed that too!! and on the left (elf's right) side the cloth under the chin doesn't match the part that comes out from behind the braid
I literally was watching an artists process earlier who only blocks in the head and then can just sketch out the body from that (incredible btw I wish I was that good) and even they move things around after the fact. The most talented artists in the world move and change things. Traditional artists using oil or acrylics often change things midway through a painting! I’ve seen people who paint hyperrealistic oil portraits paint over entire fully rendered sections of their work in order to change the layout/proportions/colour choices etc. it’s simply unbelievable that someone can create a line art worthy sketch and fully render a piece without changing a single thing and have it come out looking good.
Even if someone does go straight into the lines without blocking out shapes, they don’t do it with such confident strokes as to never erase or reposition a single line during the process. Even sketching and then lining over it, I personally am STILL changing things in the line art. Not major things but I don’t always get a line where I want it so I undo and draw it again, or I add in a little extra personality to the final lines that the sketch doesn’t have. None of that happening is the biggest giveaway for these fakers processes. That and the fact that we never see any art besides very complex completed pieces. Most artists I see on social media will post smaller drawings, practice, sketches, warmups etc that they like without making it an elaborate 10 hour artwork. It makes them feel genuine and like real people to see unfinished work and maybe not 100% anatomically correct practice sketches, because realistically nobody is rendering entire works every single time they draw otherwise how on earth do you practice the fundamentals? How to do you keep yourself fresh and well practiced in the basics if you don’t practice and allow yourself the freedom of just sketching silly things out?
Not only does AI art steal from real artists and devalue our work, it dehumanises it in the sense that it takes all the fun out of the process (as well as not being made by a human obviously). The whole point of creating is to simply enjoy it! To have fun learning and improving and finding your own style!
It amazes me how some people would spend so much time and effort just to fake an AI art as if it's their own, as AI is developing (we were able to recognise it instantly, now we have to do microscopic analysis to prove it's fake, which makes other people think we are paranoid haters) more real artist are getting overshadowed by these fakers.
And for what? Admiration for a talent you never had? Why waste time on lying when you can actually draw? And it's not even that bad you can just develop yourself.
The layers sold me on this being an AI art. The fact that the stuff is COMBINED but the eyes are in different layers. You would combine them. Theres no reason to have them separate.
Another thing that makes it very easy to spot that it's traced, that we don't talk enough of, is the fact they did sketch every little shadows.
Don't get me wrong, artists do sketch shadows, but it goes from the biggest shapes to the smallest shapes. We STRUCTURE our shadows.
Here, it's looking like the lines you will get when you use the photoshop "artistic" filters commonly used with photos or the one to turn 3D into "drawing" in CSP. I'm definitly not saying this is what they do, just that when people traces w/o understanding the shapes of the shadows, they'll just draw over every lines they notices and it looks similar so it's easy to spot.
I'm guilty of drawing the second eye on layer 56 instead of layer 10 with the first eye
so the whole "starts rendering one part then moves on to another part before they finish the first one" is kinda how I render as someone with adhd, so while I do think this piece is suspicious I don't think that can be used as evidence lol. cause either I got board of rendering one part and wanted to refresh by working on something slightly different, or I just straight up get distracted by the other part. I also sometimes render eye's like that where I'll completely finish one eye before moving on to the next, and tbh I try Not to cause it makes it hard to keep the eye's consistent.
Also with the "drawing the base shape of the eye only to make line art away from it", that's also one way I render semi realistic stuff, it's a kinda sculpting method of coloring that really vibes with me. (Tho tbh I DOn't think that's what this person was doing I'm just saying this for future reference)
(and lastly nothing I've said here is meant as criticism of kat, just I guess giving my own perspective on things?)
This is a great example of, its not one thing, hes everything together. I know I draw weird. I will do eye completely and then the other. I have weird layering. But when you put all this crap together it just looks so fake Its painful to see them try to pretend its not.
3:30 i no a guy who draws normal people like this, not horned people, but he almost always goes back over it later on, this one is pretty sus
5:35 she also doesn't switch brushes and she definetly "used" airbrush for the eyeshadow. I haven't watched further,maybe you noticed that too
1. The braids look off (mostly the left one)
2. The earing is in an odd place.
3. The second horn is not blended like the first (could be laziness but doubt.)
4. The left ear also looks odd.
And the hood you see, the upper lart of the hood is rather closer to her hair but is suddenly gets thicker.
21:42 also to mention under the horn you can see fur. I first thought "oh she/he is originally wamted to make an ear, but then looking closer you can see its the literal horn. (Right horn)
5:30 I do. I color so weirdly, I can go from one half of the hair, to the eyes, to the face, to ONE hand, don't finish the other hand before I move onto the neck, etc. My process is so weird it takes so much longer than it needs to just because if I'm coloring the same part for too long I'll get bored, so my speed paints look so weird 😭☠
I am the exact same way, and especially in coloring my pictures, I go last-first in order which usually ends up being the skin then eyes/hair but always manage to stick to it despite bouncing around in those areas. ( _Adhd stupidity_ of course)
I dunno why, but it's always been that way I doubt it'll ever be different some time in the future. 😅
@@moon1749 To me, it makes perfect sense. If you're focusing on one part too long its too boring.
For me, if I'm coloring something and I get bored of it, if there's nothing else to switch to, I typically slack off on that part because I want to finish it as fast as possible, so going to different places makes it much easier for me to actually finish the piece
@@Hansuki1 @Hansuki1 Yes, you just described _exactly_ how it feels.
It's so frustrating when I look back on an unfinished piece and got to the clothes shading or whatever, and I'm like "ugh, why does this take so long?.... Screw it, I'm gonna finish the other one I started in the middle of the process then get back to this soon" and end up leaving it for the backburner a day or two later. May be my scatterbrain, but it still sucks when I want it finished then it's not. 😅
@@moon1749This is me… I’ve been meaning to get an ADHD diagnosis on paper…
@@SobrietyandSolace Once I got mine literally last year after going years without one inkling, it was like a new door opened for so _so much_ explanation about myself and why I was always such a mess. 😅
Maybe the same would work for you once you get it, and I'm gonna hope that it does. 👍
Even Samdoesarts liquifies his sketch, the lineart alone looks traced.
Im convinced she’s erasing
Layer 1 for me is always references that I end up deleting later cause I cut it out of the canvas XD
Watching your explanations, something sinister occurred to me: her intention wasn't to pass off her AI generated art as real using the fake process.
It's to generate engagement about AI vs real art and it's working.
30:08
I‘ve been an artist my whole life
If you give me paper and a pen and ask me to draw the next person I see, I can give you a fully detailled art piece looking exactly like the person I saw
But if you tell me to draw the same person digitally, I could still draw them but would struggle with matching up the colors 100% as I have to rightfully get better at it
And I‘ve been drawing digitally for for years now
You can’t be THAT fast in changing your artstyle, it takes a couple of years of practice
when inserting an image into procreate, the program counts that image as a layer. so if you insert an image as soon as you open the canvas, your "layer 1" will be the image. procreate also allows for "private layers" that don't show up in the timelapse.
so what could've happened is she inserted the image she traced as a private layer that didn't show up in the timelapse, and deleted that layer from her layer library when "proving" that she's legit.
65 layers for that type of style is wild.. people who paint like that merge the layers or don't use much to begin with.. bc you need the colors to blend together
another sign of tracing in the sketch is that there is a weird amout of detail. like in the eyes for example, the reflections within the eye are sketched in. i have never seen an artist who does that, not that its not possible, just that its awkward and unnessesary
The right horn also goes through the hoodie's fabric. The jewelry on her head doesn't make sense, the crown seems to have came from a line that would be stopped by the left horn with nowhere to go to, it makes no sense, where is it grabbing? how can it reach the back of her head? had she meant it to come off the horn then the horn itself would have a little chain or some shit.
She was "proud" of the silver, you only feel proud of what you put hard work into or are very satisfied of. Had she placed hard work she wouldn't have made that error. Had she watched it enough to be "satisfied" she would have noticed how her jewelry is nonsense, no artist would be satisfied with that.
What the fuck is the shirt or dress or whatever its meant to be?
Her "artwork" is rigid, without an artist's confident strokes, where every line has a purpose and you wouldn't just make a hoodie for it to then melt and blend in with an ear. You are also SEEING your drawing, you cannot have forgotten that one ear has a shape to then opt for a totally different shape in the other.
Light work is off to begin with making the image look flat and lack depth, we could say that it could be a beginner error except she shouldn't be a beginner in lightwork if she has such supposed knowledge with colors and so on. We all know its AI with a single glance.
There was no creativity, no process, no planning, it was simply dropped and generated part by part.
Just in the same way ai generates, this is not how humans make art, she only makes it more obvious every time she attempts to prove her "art"
Why does she say she takes the accusation as a compliment? we know its AI because its AWFUL and makes insane mistakes that only a machine that doesn't have eyes and cant comprehend shapes, light, depth, form, anything that requires practical knowledge, would make
This is definitely ai 😂 so crazy that they claim it as their own art
Been drawing since I was 6, I am 23. This is AI.
0:13 YES! the answer is yes and it stands true for 90% of the people. It really doesn't matter if you realize what's going on; it will change nothing.
The part where you said that her strokes didn't match the right color reminded me of this other artist that would paint over art and then erase stuff to pretend she was painting it.
I don't think 22k strokes could realistically pull this off with all the teeny tiny strokes shown in the process
4:39 I do so
congrats ?
🙋🏾♀️ I absolutely color one eye at a time. “Well I do it at the same time🤪” Good for you “Chinese Cinderella” being 1 out of 9 billion people on the planet speaking as if she’s the authority on all of art 🥴 This video would have been worthwhile if she she stuck to the facts, but she’s whining for 32 minutes 😒
@@brielabellieNot you catching an attitude because this person stated they do it differently, get that nasty attitude in check 🥴
@@BreeIsMeTV yk ur the problem when ur first thought is pointed towards negativity, don’t mention me when u do nothing but assume
Same
2:35 How many artists draw like Kim Jung Gi and never need to erase? Basically just Kim Jung Gi RIP
AI always places light, reflections and shadows to make picture look "pretty" with no consideration for reality. No human EVER would do that. Even not knowing light and shadow placement theory well, humans at least have eyes and actually saw light hitting object and really understand what that is with their human brains. AI just slaps random highlights with no care in the world.
This is why I like doing traditional artwork cuz you don't get accused of doing AI art
I used to use layer styles to color, but to be honest , my art ended up looking "dirty". So I stopped and only use normal layers, and I've only started using multiply and add recently due to live2d. But for regular art, I just never use layer effects. So that is not odd 😂
The sketch on the left in the thumbnail was made using a sketch filter like from pixler, from the image on the right
she overlayered the sketch onto the finished image and used the eraser tool to erase the sketch layers
Freeze at 6:19 and you can see the eraser under the stylus, not the black shes "laying down" with such confidence
Even as someone who does tend to make more clean and detailed sketches, as it makes it easier for me when it gets to the lineart phase, this is extremely suspicious??
I always need construction lines to work off of so I know where to place everything, I need to flip the canvas, erase, resize, deform, etc, just to make sure it looks acceptable.
I can draw without undoing/erasing parts, but it's mostly just very simple chibi doodles with a ball point pen, and it's never going to be even close to being as clean as when I make edits as I go.
And the fact that she went from the first piece that you showed, which I do believe is her art, to suddenly be skilled enough to draw such elaborate things without undoing/erasing?? Yeah no sorry I don't believe it for a second.
The issue most people dont see if they're not an artist (like a traditional artist that have gone to art school or had enough experience to sell paintings)
The apparent skill level of the art vs the process MAKES NO SENSE.
Its like watching a cheater aimbotting with No game sense.
They're are doing things that if they were that good enough to draw that detailed, then the process would be different in the speed paint.
And most people won't catch that.
Two things I want to add 1 in favour of the artist 1 against her.
1) I use procreate and I merge my layers down to persevere layers because there is a layer limit with higher DPI she could’ve used a multiply layer for example but merged it down meaning all of her layers are normal to conserve the amount of layers used so you don’t run out
2) you can exempt layers from the speed drawing so it doesn’t appear it’s incredibly easy to fake a speed drawing in procreate I’ve done tik tok videos explaining how people fake these videos before
In conclusion, especially with the missing layer 1 it seems very likely this is AI and after watching your video I’m fairly convinced. Some people do similar techniques to this artist but all combined together it’s very suspicious. It’s not that the drawing is “so good she couldn’t have done it” it contains mistakes in ways an artist with that skill wouldn’t make. I mean the hood is literally missing on the right and the sketch is quite clearly just being traced from an invisible layer missing from the speed drawing.
If she really sketched like that she would make videos showing how easily she can sketch instead she shows a speed drawing because she knows she can’t hide the invisible layer unless it’s a speed drawing.
With the added knowledge that layers can be hidden from speed drawings her videos feel very intentional in the way she records them.
EDIT: only drawing in this video she didn’t trace was the one where she showed her sketching phase which is the braid picture right at the end. Why would she choose to show speed paints of her lineart instead of showing how easily she can sketch the chibi horn girl, unless she physically needs to make it a speed paint to hide the reference. That’s my conclusion.
So much effort and passion into faking rather than learning
It seems more like she's tracing an invisible layer then colouring. So while the colouring may be hers the art/concept is originally ai. It also seems like she's colouring picking from from said generated picture and colouring like that. I've done this with real pictures as a means of practice.
This is the first time I actually watched the situation happen in real time 😂 Kept getting all the parts on my fyp
You are being wayyyy too generous to this person. It's so so obvious, you're better than me because I will NOT give the benefit of the doubt to people who put so much effort into faking a skill instead of just learning it.
Its the jewlery lineart for me…
14:17 im convinced its AI, the hood is infront of the back side horn which would mean its punching through the hood and then the hood blends into the ear