As a Zilong main you basically nailed it in the head all of his weaknesses. You need really good game sense to make use of his skills. The best way to get an advantage in lane is to try and get the crab first and try to clear the lane as fast as possible to roam around the map to get kills before returning. Of course its hard as a Zilong main but Great Dragon spear is actually really amazing for him. The extra move speed totals up to 70% which is faster than sprint. He literally can out run basically every hero without a dash and it makes closing the distance so much easier. Use Dragon spear it was built for him! Literally
I won't put him at bottom tier. Cz he's situational but very effective pusher and lane clear hero.If u focus only on split pushing then he will win 95% of games.
Only thing disagree is julian, he is strong at poking and escapability + the early lvl 3 power spike to zone enemies from lvl 4 or can fast rotate turtle. Granted he is not the best maybe average or situational but not a bad pick
Well, he's close to average, but IMO he doesn't really offer much besides a power spike at lvl 3 and outclassed by everything else. Much more suitable to playing as a Jungler where he can abuse that lvl 3 power spike more effectively.
I sort of agree with Lukas' dash, it doesn't go through thick walls and the teleport-to-enemy-back is a double- edged sword BUT perhaps it just needs some getting use to. I can't really complain since a dash is still a dash.
Notes: - The Tank category heroes can always get Cursed Helmet to somewhat clear faster. It's not the best def item but it's a cheap source of high HP. - Most Tank category heroes, Barats, and Tank Chou could get a Guardian Helmet after a couple of defense components or Thunder Belt if you believe you're that good at stacking. The heal it provides when offcombat is broken in the hands of an EXP-laner, compared to Roams who are more subject to taken hits. - What were Badang's buffs again?
Most important the ult stun duration was improved from 0.6 to 1s imo. IMO he was already good before he became popular, but the buffs put him in the spotlight.
I go Tigreal exp if I don't trust our roam. My team calls me troll and freaks out but it works like a charm. First item cursed helmet and just calculated teamfights since you lack damage.
I see people commenting saying "pick what you like" or "it's not about meta". First of all, we're talking about solo rg, if you are playing classic then troll/experiment all you want but in rg you have to go by the meta or you will never and I say NEVER leave epic/legend with that mindset. Meta changes every time and you have too. Let's say you're good at this certain hero but then the enemy already picked a hero who can counter or who's strong at laning than your hero, will you still force pick it? If yes, then I hope I don't meet you at my side of the team.
Honestly, Alice has been really good in exp lane lately. After the latest and millionth change to her passive, playing her has been much easier. Although it might just be me and my experience as playing the blood or passive version a lot in the past. But still I think she's solid. Not bad. Yesterday I had a rank game with her against Thamuz and I actually out damaged him and won the lane. Her mobility and kitting helps a lot. And once I can get ahead with her, it's awesome. Her ult clears the wave in a jiffy, like always. But my team was also good. If I had a particularly bad team, like if I had to solo carry the whole team then Alice would definitely struggle much more than some other side laners. I'm in Legend
Nah, her nerfs really took a toll on her capabilities, you can just buy radiant armour and her damage greatly decreases. Pair that with Dom ice while you're a sustain, she's still badly nerfed.
Loved this tier list. The way you talk about their strengths and weaknesses makes it really good. I would also suggest you to add best builds or core items for the heroes and emblems. Anyways, the tierlist is goated. Keep it up and I hope you make these tier list after every month, or if the meta changes. Thank you❤❤
As an EXP laner i mostly agree with this list, however i heavily disagree with julian as his power spike at lvl 3 is insane. Keep making more of these list Ruby im loving 'em!
Well, he's close to average, but IMO he doesn't really offer much besides a power spike at lvl 3 and outclassed by everything else. Much more suitable to playing as a Jungler where he can abuse that lvl 3 power spike more effectively.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming i see makes sense he's in the "better as jungler" list. He can surprise gank after clearing one buff and creeps. Thanks for the vision Ruby.
Can you Explain Further why Lukas is Good? I have not been doing good playing as him, When he first came out people didn't know how to deal with him so I did good but recently I've been playing horribly as him now that people know how he works. Maybe its my build? I have only war axe as dmg and use fighter for emblem. Or y'know, maybe it's just a skill issue on my part.
His ult transformation is basically it. It alongside war axe and queen wing give you a lot of sustain and good damage even if the rest of your items are defence. Also he has a lot of cc which disrupts a lot of enemy teams and can kind of bully the tank away from teammates. Thunderbelt is a relatively popular item since the increased defence also applies to tbelt stacks and synergises with the passive damage
@@sneezebazooka6068 i agree with this he's more suited as a tank exp rather than damage just by war axe and build your defense items. Lukas however heavily relies on his ult to last long in team fights
I personally think Benedetta should be in Mostly Solid tier, her great damage and rotation really makes it easy to teamfight and split push both. She's also a great setter with ult and petrify, the only flaw is if her petrify is on cooldown she just relies on skill 2 stun
Well she is pretty hard to use which makes her pretty inconsistent. She requires so much skill from players that it can be easy to spot a good Benedetta user and a bad one. A lot of EXP lane mains prioritize ease of use on their heroes so we don't have to stress out on learning complex combos and can focus on macro like map awareness, rotations, and good timing.
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I knew something was wrong with Lukas' 2nd skill, it doesnt feel good using it and the number of times I bumped to a wall is embarassing Overall a solid list though #JusticeToHandsomeGuyBalmond
Thank you for this guides, it helps a lot learning like that. Even tho i'm surprised by some or even disagree, i can learn more how strong or weak and against which combination
Because he will always be trash in EXP lane. They should really just rework him as a pure Jungler instead of forcing him on EXP lane since his playstyle tends to lean more on Assassin than his primary role of Fighter. Hell they even gave him a passive for finishing off enemies.
IDK about categorically placing all tanks in "tank" and assuming they dont do enough damage. Like I play Carmilla, and there have been countless games where I saved the match by solo killing the enemy mm or mage. Regardless of if i'm roaming, exp, or jg, I do 20% of the teams damage as Carmilla on average. There are even instances where I can even kill 2 heroes by myself. Personally, I think Carmilla has a good balance or damage and utility. Fredrinn I also feel has enough damage. He is one of the tank jg and in my experience a good fred can do good damage. But can say much cause i dont really use him exp, same for the other tank exp. I guess it's just not really clear how the 'balance' between damage and utility is determined. What's the criteria for sufficient damage? Makes it seem like the tanks just got lumped into tank and assumed to do no damage
Zilong on usually bad is extremely justified and i will put an emphasis on "USUALLY". But sometimes, just once in a blue moon, you will meet that one zilong user that is just a freaking menace.
Reading live chat while watching this video really showed me how bad are 90% players of this game. Due to big amount of bots all those bad players still end up in low mythic or honor during the season and when I get these nabs in team it's already gg.
@@temuulenbaldorj1900 no yall always sleeping on or complaining about Argus being too weak when he has consistently been one of the best fighter regarding WR the past few seasons. That for good reasons. He has literal immortality and absurd late game dmg that can melt even tanks, on top of that he got good mobility + cc. Seriously dont get why ppl want him buffed so badly
@@treeseeker5884 I don't want him buffed, but I want the old one wait getting the old one is basically buffed, but still, I don't care about the late game if it means I will lose or be far behind by a lot of gold to the point of there is no wining
@temuulenbaldorj1900 the New one is stronger. New one can just jump into a teamfight ( in which he 100% gets "killed" during his invincibility, which means he gains an overall of 8 damn seconds of immortality, which is a Ton lot for team fights ). During these 8 seconds he can dish out tons of dmg, as well as cc enemies as well as force enemies to use their cc skills on you because thats the only thing stopping Argus during his immortality, which however still isnt enough cause good luck stunning Argus for any time near 8 seconds. As I said he has one of the highest winrates for good reasons, the numbers dont lie.
I don't get why aulus and julian is in the "usually bad" section, why are they in this tier? Julian can easily bully exp laners once he reaches level 3, plus he also has alot of options when it comes to exp lane, so you're not just limited to assassin and mage emblem Aulus s1 makes him tanky and his s2 has built in life steal so he can still recover from creeps or minions Overall i think its an good tier list, its just that some exp laner is heavily dependant on its user, and that can impact how the hero will play out
Simply put, Julian likes to snowball so he performs better as a Jungler since he prefers to end games fast which EXP doesn't favor his play style because no one goes all in and just prefers short trades. Aulus meanwhile just can't keep up in the EXP lane. He lacks good trading ability like being Tanky or having a quick dash to do hit and run. Also his form of sustain is Lifesteal which is very weak early on.
I'm a exp main I don't think Julian is that bad at exp kus he get his full kit at 3 but he is better at jungle kus he can kill bot buff n gank when enemies are level 2-3
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As a Zilong main you basically nailed it in the head all of his weaknesses. You need really good game sense to make use of his skills. The best way to get an advantage in lane is to try and get the crab first and try to clear the lane as fast as possible to roam around the map to get kills before returning. Of course its hard as a Zilong main but Great Dragon spear is actually really amazing for him. The extra move speed totals up to 70% which is faster than sprint. He literally can out run basically every hero without a dash and it makes closing the distance so much easier. Use Dragon spear it was built for him! Literally
I feel u bro
Yeah you really need to be tricky using Zilong too
I won't put him at bottom tier.
Cz he's situational but very effective pusher and lane clear hero.If u focus only on split pushing then he will win 95% of games.
Only thing disagree is julian, he is strong at poking and escapability + the early lvl 3 power spike to zone enemies from lvl 4 or can fast rotate turtle. Granted he is not the best maybe average or situational but not a bad pick
Well, he's close to average, but IMO he doesn't really offer much besides a power spike at lvl 3 and outclassed by everything else. Much more suitable to playing as a Jungler where he can abuse that lvl 3 power spike more effectively.
unfortunately Suyou is just a better Julian
@RubyRubyRubyGaming can he be good in mid?
With new rosegold julian is great explaner imo
@nicholaschan I totally agree with u
I sort of agree with Lukas' dash, it doesn't go through thick walls and the teleport-to-enemy-back is a double- edged sword BUT perhaps it just needs some getting use to. I can't really complain since a dash is still a dash.
His 2nd stack first skill can go past walk just to point it out .
@@Nick-Dragrus if that dash was loger he would be insanely good in jungle and exp
Notes:
- The Tank category heroes can always get Cursed Helmet to somewhat clear faster. It's not the best def item but it's a cheap source of high HP.
- Most Tank category heroes, Barats, and Tank Chou could get a Guardian Helmet after a couple of defense components or Thunder Belt if you believe you're that good at stacking. The heal it provides when offcombat is broken in the hands of an EXP-laner, compared to Roams who are more subject to taken hits.
- What were Badang's buffs again?
Most important the ult stun duration was improved from 0.6 to 1s imo. IMO he was already good before he became popular, but the buffs put him in the spotlight.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming What stopped him from touching the META category before if not this buff?
IMO he's hidden META ever since tanks were nerfed and Assassins were bek in META. Just not popular.
I go Tigreal exp if I don't trust our roam. My team calls me troll and freaks out but it works like a charm. First item cursed helmet and just calculated teamfights since you lack damage.
I see people commenting saying "pick what you like" or "it's not about meta". First of all, we're talking about solo rg, if you are playing classic then troll/experiment all you want but in rg you have to go by the meta or you will never and I say NEVER leave epic/legend with that mindset. Meta changes every time and you have too. Let's say you're good at this certain hero but then the enemy already picked a hero who can counter or who's strong at laning than your hero, will you still force pick it? If yes, then I hope I don't meet you at my side of the team.
Honestly, Alice has been really good in exp lane lately. After the latest and millionth change to her passive, playing her has been much easier. Although it might just be me and my experience as playing the blood or passive version a lot in the past.
But still I think she's solid. Not bad. Yesterday I had a rank game with her against Thamuz and I actually out damaged him and won the lane. Her mobility and kitting helps a lot. And once I can get ahead with her, it's awesome. Her ult clears the wave in a jiffy, like always. But my team was also good. If I had a particularly bad team, like if I had to solo carry the whole team then Alice would definitely struggle much more than some other side laners.
I'm in Legend
Nah, her nerfs really took a toll on her capabilities, you can just buy radiant armour and her damage greatly decreases. Pair that with Dom ice while you're a sustain, she's still badly nerfed.
Legend is pisslow so tierlist doesn’t apply
Goated exp tier list, I especially like it when it zooms in to your bouncing head while you speak
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Loved this tier list. The way you talk about their strengths and weaknesses makes it really good. I would also suggest you to add best builds or core items for the heroes and emblems. Anyways, the tierlist is goated. Keep it up and I hope you make these tier list after every month, or if the meta changes. Thank you❤❤
Thank you! I'll see what I can do!
As an EXP laner i mostly agree with this list, however i heavily disagree with julian as his power spike at lvl 3 is insane. Keep making more of these list Ruby im loving 'em!
Well, he's close to average, but IMO he doesn't really offer much besides a power spike at lvl 3 and outclassed by everything else. Much more suitable to playing as a Jungler where he can abuse that lvl 3 power spike more effectively.
@@RubyRubyRubyGaming i see makes sense he's in the "better as jungler" list. He can surprise gank after clearing one buff and creeps. Thanks for the vision Ruby.
Can you Explain Further why Lukas is Good?
I have not been doing good playing as him, When he first came out people didn't know how to deal with him so I did good but recently I've been playing horribly as him now that people know how he works.
Maybe its my build? I have only war axe as dmg and use fighter for emblem.
Or y'know, maybe it's just a skill issue on my part.
Build cd reduc and sustain items like brute force tough boots war axe hunterstrike queen wing so u can spam skills
@@nicholaschan5022 But at that point, You become super squishy. Dmg is nothing if you're already dead.
his constant cc with cd reduction causes him to be really difficult to kill since 1st skill heals him when it hits
His ult transformation is basically it. It alongside war axe and queen wing give you a lot of sustain and good damage even if the rest of your items are defence. Also he has a lot of cc which disrupts a lot of enemy teams and can kind of bully the tank away from teammates. Thunderbelt is a relatively popular item since the increased defence also applies to tbelt stacks and synergises with the passive damage
@@sneezebazooka6068 i agree with this he's more suited as a tank exp rather than damage just by war axe and build your defense items. Lukas however heavily relies on his ult to last long in team fights
I personally think Benedetta should be in Mostly Solid tier, her great damage and rotation really makes it easy to teamfight and split push both. She's also a great setter with ult and petrify, the only flaw is if her petrify is on cooldown she just relies on skill 2 stun
Well she is pretty hard to use which makes her pretty inconsistent. She requires so much skill from players that it can be easy to spot a good Benedetta user and a bad one.
A lot of EXP lane mains prioritize ease of use on their heroes so we don't have to stress out on learning complex combos and can focus on macro like map awareness, rotations, and good timing.
i subscribed. felt your guides and explantion were really good for gamers like me that are still learning (and even sometimes much better than the popular youtubers). thank you and hope your efforts get recognised
Thanks for the sub!
Barats is soo underated in lane but his late game performance is really bad. I only pick him when our core is late game, so it is a bit balanced.
I knew something was wrong with Lukas' 2nd skill, it doesnt feel good using it and the number of times I bumped to a wall is embarassing
Overall a solid list though
#JusticeToHandsomeGuyBalmond
badang cdr tank build is insane right now.
Tank badang goes hard
Thank you for this guides, it helps a lot learning like that. Even tho i'm surprised by some or even disagree, i can learn more how strong or weak and against which combination
Glad you enjoyed it anw!
5:36 wtf Uvindu
damn it i thought i removed that msg in time
36:26 "Edith is bae ❤"
I agree Anuresh. I agree
Zilong is that bad?, i mean after the rose gold revamp i think he is quite a viable option
the reason why is probably cause he heavily relies on becoming lvl 4 as soon as possible plus he needs items to be strong
It helped him abit, but IMO still not enough.
Because he will always be trash in EXP lane. They should really just rework him as a pure Jungler instead of forcing him on EXP lane since his playstyle tends to lean more on Assassin than his primary role of Fighter. Hell they even gave him a passive for finishing off enemies.
IDK about categorically placing all tanks in "tank" and assuming they dont do enough damage.
Like I play Carmilla, and there have been countless games where I saved the match by solo killing the enemy mm or mage. Regardless of if i'm roaming, exp, or jg, I do 20% of the teams damage as Carmilla on average. There are even instances where I can even kill 2 heroes by myself. Personally, I think Carmilla has a good balance or damage and utility.
Fredrinn I also feel has enough damage. He is one of the tank jg and in my experience a good fred can do good damage. But can say much cause i dont really use him exp, same for the other tank exp.
I guess it's just not really clear how the 'balance' between damage and utility is determined. What's the criteria for sufficient damage? Makes it seem like the tanks just got lumped into tank and assumed to do no damage
Zilong on usually bad is extremely justified and i will put an emphasis on "USUALLY". But sometimes, just once in a blue moon, you will meet that one zilong user that is just a freaking menace.
Gloo is pretty strong but at around mythic level people know how to deal with his bs... I've seen better xborgs
Why is lapu good against faramis?
His Ult A3 clears Faramis Ult very quickly
Ty I just got back to the game
I’ll wait for the mage one 😊
Reading live chat while watching this video really showed me how bad are 90% players of this game. Due to big amount of bots all those bad players still end up in low mythic or honor during the season and when I get these nabs in team it's already gg.
Please consider making a similar and updated list for mid laners :)
Yes, I would love to 😊
Quite surprised Argus is this high in the tier list.❤
Yeah, to be honest, he should be next to zilong in any tier list
@@temuulenbaldorj1900 no yall always sleeping on or complaining about Argus being too weak when he has consistently been one of the best fighter regarding WR the past few seasons. That for good reasons. He has literal immortality and absurd late game dmg that can melt even tanks, on top of that he got good mobility + cc. Seriously dont get why ppl want him buffed so badly
@@treeseeker5884 I don't want him buffed, but I want the old one wait getting the old one is basically buffed, but still, I don't care about the late game if it means I will lose or be far behind by a lot of gold to the point of there is no wining
@@treeseeker5884 and he can't melt tanks
@temuulenbaldorj1900 the New one is stronger. New one can just jump into a teamfight ( in which he 100% gets "killed" during his invincibility, which means he gains an overall of 8 damn seconds of immortality, which is a Ton lot for team fights ). During these 8 seconds he can dish out tons of dmg, as well as cc enemies as well as force enemies to use their cc skills on you because thats the only thing stopping Argus during his immortality, which however still isnt enough cause good luck stunning Argus for any time near 8 seconds. As I said he has one of the highest winrates for good reasons, the numbers dont lie.
I don't get why aulus and julian is in the "usually bad" section, why are they in this tier?
Julian can easily bully exp laners once he reaches level 3, plus he also has alot of options when it comes to exp lane, so you're not just limited to assassin and mage emblem
Aulus s1 makes him tanky and his s2 has built in life steal so he can still recover from creeps or minions
Overall i think its an good tier list, its just that some exp laner is heavily dependant on its user, and that can impact how the hero will play out
Simply put, Julian likes to snowball so he performs better as a Jungler since he prefers to end games fast which EXP doesn't favor his play style because no one goes all in and just prefers short trades.
Aulus meanwhile just can't keep up in the EXP lane. He lacks good trading ability like being Tanky or having a quick dash to do hit and run. Also his form of sustain is Lifesteal which is very weak early on.
really helpful, I am waiting for roam tier list. ♥️
Next one :)
Aulus should be on the same tier as Sun
ham sandwich
I'm a exp main I don't think Julian is that bad at exp kus he get his full kit at 3 but he is better at jungle kus he can kill bot buff n gank when enemies are level 2-3
Next video mid lane
I don't like sun in exp
present boss
Boss present
Call me averagetiergod cause all my mains in average lmaooo
probably the best exp lane tier list this month
Bruh
U guys don't know how to alu properly 😢
Make sustain and hybrid build and see how he dominates
Btw I reached mythical glory
Ham sandwich
You can build Lukas , damage , tank or any how and he will still be balanced in all aspect
Ham sandwich is haram
Lukas is the number 1 xp hero rn . You can carry with him
не согласен насчет Zilong, это же контрпик фанни, линга или джой. он любого из них опускает на землю и отправляет на фонтан
Wait what, sun is meta ?
can you do mid lane please
Jungler PLS :) ❤
Its perfect ❤❤
Good tier list but heavily disagree with julian
There is so many low rank voters
PRESENT BOSS I DID IT FIRST
I have a life gems
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What is a life?
zilong should be in meta or solid tier
absolute menace 1 shotting mages and mm with no counterplay
lmao no counterplay and Zilong in the same conversation
How is sun meta.
Every time I play sun in exp it is the easiest game win of my life.
as a melissa main, i don't know what i'm doing here
Biased sun is not that good
Guinevere is situational
I can destroy any warrior without purfiy in exp