Gotta say, that Gigant lore was something I didn't expect to find - really goes to show just how much story lays behind even some of the most "forgettable" mobs in FFXIV. Thanks for the lesson, Scribe!
What I always liked about Copperbell was that Papashan, who gives you the initial quest, doesnt hold back when it comes to put shame where it belongs: to his own ancesters. You enter the mines, knowing full well why these creatures are upset and why they have to be dealt with. Sure, the msq doesnt allow us to not do it, but on the other hand, as you already said, we dont really have a choice either: its either stopping them, or watching countless innocents getting butchered. Its one of those unexpected dark moments in FF14, that hit you in the gut...
Jeez, that Giant lore is even more tragic than I already thought. :( Also, when I first saw the name Hecatoncheries, I thought back to how the ancient greek monsters of the same name were described by Overly Sarcastic Productions and said out loud "B-bro, I'm level 16, I am in no way ready to fight 50-headed-50-handed rock chuckin' giants :o ". So I was relieved to see that these Hecatoncheries are lacking in the heads and hands of their mythic bretheren.
I remember when I first did this quest. It was then that I realized that this game was a lot darker than I was led to believe. ARR actually deals with a lot of things like this but many people miss the details because you e got to both READ AND UNDERSTAND both what’s being said and what’s being implied.
I remember that too. I knew the basics of Copperbell mines of giants of the mines. But I also remember part of the main quest where the WoL is tracking Ascians as men in black robes and red masks and you end up in Little Ala’Migho chasing down youths wanting to summon Rhalgyr. And one of the young woman you meet at one point and yeah… darker game than it seemed. Including that beggar woman you saved in Ul’dah from that male merchant.
I just wanted to share -- I found your channel a few days ago and I really enjoy listening to you. I love the way you present, you're easy on the ears, I learn a lot, and you help calm my brain to sleep. I've been listening in the morning when I wake up too. Thanks for doing what you do and please keep at it. I really enjoy your content.
Thank you very much! Some people say my videos are so relaxing that they fall asleep to them. I wonder if I was more aggressive to keep people awake like. "YO WORLD STAR POGGERS BRO LETS GOOOOOO!" lmao
I love how you have your character walk through the dungeon as you tell the tale. it's like we are following you through this empty place where conflict arose and ceased, while you regal us with the tale.
Beast tribes usually summon a primal so help with their oppression problems. Hecatoncheires on the other hand be like “nah bruh, we gots hammers, worms and brawn”. In that regard they’re suppose they could be seen as an atheist race?
Endwalker proved that even being atheist doesn't prevent primal summoning. The belief in not believing in something still fulfills the "faith" requirement for primal summoning.
I certainly could see the Hecatonchieres in this situation wanting to solve their matters by their own hands rather than some god, but, you could also chalk up their lack of Summoning to their brainwashing before and lack of aetheric crystals after, since the mines itself had been stripped dry for centuries.
Y'know i always wondered what the deal with hecatoncheirs, gigases, and giants was until i saw the last guildhest and realized they were all giants in different castes
A great video as always! You’ve become one of the best XIV channels I’m aware of with your close attention to detail and great writing and summarization skills. Hope you grow to be more and more successful!
Another good (yet hard) lesson learned with Vodka in hand, Teach! Looking forward for more of these as always. It does help in appreciating how much work is done lore-wise for the ARR dungeons. Now I can't wait for the Heavensward ones XD
You are good at this. Thanks for your dedication. Keep it up good sir!! If you can make a story that isnt your creation so personal I'd love to see you have your own stories to tell. I for one would happily read or hear your own stories!
Honestly that's my dream. I'd love to make a living writing books, or helping create worlds/characters in media/videogames. I just don't know how to get there. lol
The Hecatoncheires come from ancient Greek myth as sons of the primal beings Gaia and Uranos, the earth and sky gods. The name comes from "hundred hands" and these monsters had 100 hands and 100 heads. They were released by Zeus to defeat Cronus and actually ended up becoming servants to Hepstatus in his forge, helping to forge Zeus's lightning bolts.
Looking back, I kind of miss when dungeons had a sort of lore/plot reason for existing. And not just like appearing for the sake of gameplay, not that I have a problem with FFXIV's dungeons is just that it felt like I was exploring the world of Eorzea through dungeons in ARR.
kind of wished there was a beast tribe quest with gigants, i loved their look when i first saw them and sympathized with the lesser giants., but cant get everything.
Hecatoncheires have 50 heads so I can only assume Squeenix named them this to annoy me and force me to struggle with their pronounciation as they are just giants in this game with one head and certainly not Hecatoncheires.
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Gotta say, that Gigant lore was something I didn't expect to find - really goes to show just how much story lays behind even some of the most "forgettable" mobs in FFXIV. Thanks for the lesson, Scribe!
Just starting this video and I think I remember some of the lore from it and those giants 300 years ago.
What I always liked about Copperbell was that Papashan, who gives you the initial quest, doesnt hold back when it comes to put shame where it belongs: to his own ancesters. You enter the mines, knowing full well why these creatures are upset and why they have to be dealt with. Sure, the msq doesnt allow us to not do it, but on the other hand, as you already said, we dont really have a choice either: its either stopping them, or watching countless innocents getting butchered. Its one of those unexpected dark moments in FF14, that hit you in the gut...
Jeez, that Giant lore is even more tragic than I already thought. :(
Also, when I first saw the name Hecatoncheries, I thought back to how the ancient greek monsters of the same name were described by Overly Sarcastic Productions and said out loud "B-bro, I'm level 16, I am in no way ready to fight 50-headed-50-handed rock chuckin' giants :o ".
So I was relieved to see that these Hecatoncheries are lacking in the heads and hands of their mythic bretheren.
I remember when I first did this quest. It was then that I realized that this game was a lot darker than I was led to believe. ARR actually deals with a lot of things like this but many people miss the details because you e got to both READ AND UNDERSTAND both what’s being said and what’s being implied.
I remember that too. I knew the basics of Copperbell mines of giants of the mines. But I also remember part of the main quest where the WoL is tracking Ascians as men in black robes and red masks and you end up in Little Ala’Migho chasing down youths wanting to summon Rhalgyr.
And one of the young woman you meet at one point and yeah… darker game than it seemed. Including that beggar woman you saved in Ul’dah from that male merchant.
I just wanted to share -- I found your channel a few days ago and I really enjoy listening to you. I love the way you present, you're easy on the ears, I learn a lot, and you help calm my brain to sleep. I've been listening in the morning when I wake up too. Thanks for doing what you do and please keep at it. I really enjoy your content.
Thank you very much! Some people say my videos are so relaxing that they fall asleep to them. I wonder if I was more aggressive to keep people awake like. "YO WORLD STAR POGGERS BRO LETS GOOOOOO!" lmao
@@SynodicScribe lmao! It would probably startle me awake and get me all hype 🤣
I love how you have your character walk through the dungeon as you tell the tale. it's like we are following you through this empty place where conflict arose and ceased, while you regal us with the tale.
Being sold into slavery by their own kin.. thats so evil and so cruelly relatable to so many events in history...
Art reflects life after all.
Beast tribes usually summon a primal so help with their oppression problems. Hecatoncheires on the other hand be like “nah bruh, we gots hammers, worms and brawn”.
In that regard they’re suppose they could be seen as an atheist race?
Endwalker proved that even being atheist doesn't prevent primal summoning. The belief in not believing in something still fulfills the "faith" requirement for primal summoning.
I certainly could see the Hecatonchieres in this situation wanting to solve their matters by their own hands rather than some god, but, you could also chalk up their lack of Summoning to their brainwashing before and lack of aetheric crystals after, since the mines itself had been stripped dry for centuries.
@@SynodicScribe Wasn't in StormBlood they shown you don't even need faith in a religion, just a cause to believe in
Can't summon primals without crystals
@@Trakesh That also been disproven in StormBlood
Y'know i always wondered what the deal with hecatoncheirs, gigases, and giants was until i saw the last guildhest and realized they were all giants in different castes
yuuuuuup. it's kinda messed up
A great video as always! You’ve become one of the best XIV channels I’m aware of with your close attention to detail and great writing and summarization skills. Hope you grow to be more and more successful!
I hope so to! I'm just having a hard time reaching the core FFXIV fans at the moment. lol
Your videos are amazing. They give so much depth to some random content we get to do over and over again. I absolutely love it. Keep up the good work!
Seeing you walk by the flat crane at 4:45 that shows how time changes. That was the old dungeon layout lol
Lalafell are the true villains as always.
Well. My levelling roulette just got more intersting
Hey man, really enjoying the content, keep it up
Can confirm that I was more intelligent before going bald
lol
Keep going. I love how much I am learning from you!
Another good (yet hard) lesson learned with Vodka in hand, Teach! Looking forward for more of these as always. It does help in appreciating how much work is done lore-wise for the ARR dungeons. Now I can't wait for the Heavensward ones XD
You are good at this. Thanks for your dedication. Keep it up good sir!! If you can make a story that isnt your creation so personal I'd love to see you have your own stories to tell. I for one would happily read or hear your own stories!
Honestly that's my dream. I'd love to make a living writing books, or helping create worlds/characters in media/videogames. I just don't know how to get there. lol
The Hecatoncheires come from ancient Greek myth as sons of the primal beings Gaia and Uranos, the earth and sky gods. The name comes from "hundred hands" and these monsters had 100 hands and 100 heads. They were released by Zeus to defeat Cronus and actually ended up becoming servants to Hepstatus in his forge, helping to forge Zeus's lightning bolts.
I did find the soft timer on Copperbell hard with it burning up pretty fun
shit I thought I was already subscribed
Looking back, I kind of miss when dungeons had a sort of lore/plot reason for existing. And not just like appearing for the sake of gameplay, not that I have a problem with FFXIV's dungeons is just that it felt like I was exploring the world of Eorzea through dungeons in ARR.
kind of wished there was a beast tribe quest with gigants, i loved their look when i first saw them and sympathized with the lesser giants., but cant get everything.
I thought you would make a mention of Dolorous Bear and his crew during the first part of Copperbell Mines
These videos are meant to cover the extended history and reasons for the dungeon's existence rather than everything that happens in them.
i realy love the dungun historys
Hecatoncheires have 50 heads so I can only assume Squeenix named them this to annoy me and force me to struggle with their pronounciation as they are just giants in this game with one head and certainly not Hecatoncheires.
It may be the worst dungeon in the game to play through (far as I'm concerned) but it sure has an interesting story. Really nicely told!
>But that didn't stop Ul'dah fro mbeing the capitalist society we see it as
???
Such a weird nonsensical line to put in there for no reason lol