GG-1's of Penn Central & Amtrak, Metroliners on the NEC, Elizabeth, NJ. in 1977...
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- We are at two different location in North Elizabeth, NJ on the North East Corridor. Just north of the station, and at the station platform. The following clips are of AMT 925, Metroliner, Amt 926, PC 4930, PC 4932, AMT 904, PC 4935, Metroliner, PC 4877. Video was taken with a old Kodak 8mm Sound movie camera, so the quality is not the greatest, put is preserved for all to see, and hear in 1977. Thanks for watching. Jackmp294.5™
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I hired out on Penn Central in March of 1974. It was a honor to operate these locomotives. Now let me tell tell you something. Amtrak had gotten there new passenger coaches before they got the AEM-7 locomotives. Amtrak took mail cars and put the head end power in them for the new coaches. I always here on videos that the GG-1could go 100 M.P.H. Let me tell you that the GG-1 would run at speeds of 125 M.P.H and up to 135 M.P.H. I was firing on these jobs,and personally ran theses locomotives at 125M.P.H.. If we would lose some time on our schedule( because of slow signals) I could make up some time by running the GG-1 at up to 135M.P.H. These locomotives were in my mind way ahead of there time. Hated to see them retire. I went with NJ Transit when Conrail and operated these locomotives until there retirement.
+Ronald Melhorn The only people who didn't like the GG1s were the ones who serviced them. Asbestos and PCPs. They had to go.
THE GG1 WAS A PREMIER LOCOMOTIVE! EVERYTHING WAS GRACEFUL ABOUT IT ! FOR IT'S WEIGHT TO HOLD THE ROAD AND SHEER BRUTE POWER AND WHEEL ARRANGEMENT IT COULD GO ANY SPEED AN AM-7 COULD GO AND MORE! HANDS DOWN! BUT IT WOULD SCARE THE DAMN DAYLIGHTS OUT OF YOU IF YOU WERE STANDING ON A PLATFORM AT THE NEW BRUNSWICK STATION AND SAW THAT MONSTER PASSING YOU AT SPEED'S IN ACCESS OF 135 AND UP! I BELIEVE I WAS IN THAT STATION ONE NIGHT AND SOMETHING CAME BY THAT STATION WITH SUCH FEROSITY AND SHEER SPEED THAT I COULD ONLY BELIEVE THAT IT WAS A GG1AND NOTHING ELSE PERIOD! THAT IT WAS A GG1
I'm actually really glad that this video exists, mainly because Budd Metroliner videos (when they were actually metroliners) are extremely rare. Thanks for this video ^-^
I've ridden behind the GG-1s. It is amazing when you got to Harrisburg and they pulled the two diesels off of the Broadway Limited and coupled on one GG-1, the difference in speed. Those line poles just flew by and the clickity-clack from the rails was really fast!
GG1's & Metroliners were so great!
Interesting collection of GG-1s! Managed to grab a few stills in my day. I may even have one painted in the Amtrak orange work train scheme! I favor the PRR pinstripe scheme-when they were finally painted in Amtrak red, white & blue I didn't care for it. I have been by these stations (by GG-1) many times in the 60s.
Riding behind one was a real TRIP!! That lone headlight looked like one big eyeball!
Don't think I've ever seen footage of a GG-1 before. They are big, handsome engines. Thanks for sharing.
GG1,s best of the best I was glad to see some ended up in museums
Thanks for the memories! I rode behind GG-1s on several occasions and they would really fly. Got to ride up the Susquehanna River line behind one on an NRHS special. Rare mileage for the Gs then. Great video.
Enjoyable! Just wish this were longer. So cool seeing how graceful the GG1's looked hauling Amtrak trains at speed! Also neat seeing the Metroliners in action! Some of them were not repainted for several years and a few kept their Penn Central logos for a long stretch.
Perfect for 1977... Cool footage of the end of an era.
Thanks for sharing. Some great history here. Metroliners running in their original paint scheme, and Blackjack in Penn Central livery.
Your right Earl. The GG-1 was a monster. It had 12 drivers and 8 truck wheels,4 on each truck. For me it was heart breaking to see them taken out of service. Anyone can operate these new locomotives. I went with NJTRO when Conrail broke up. Locomotive Engineers from other railroads, other than Penn Central. Could not operate the GG-1. This was not there fault. The GG-- had 22 throttle positions, you had to come out one notch at a time. The GG-1 had spoked driver wheels. In between the spokes, there were rubber padded starters., these starters would tap against the spokes A.C. Electricity which cycles,(like your home electric which is 60 HZ that means 60 times a second the electricity reverses direction)and get the locomotive moving. When the GG-1 would reach around 15 MPH. You would here the A.C. Traction motors start. That's when the GG-1 would show its true power. If you were operating from the number one end of the GG-1 you would here the tap switches on the transformer closing.
Probably your best video Jack....fantastic!
Yah know nyshortline!!! I NEVER thought of that! Thanks for bring that up! I forgot all about them two units getting an early heritage paint job. Glad you enjoyed it, and thanks for watching...
the GG-1s were reliable working machines.
GREAT!!! unbelieveble im 30 years old so 1977 ive bin born 4 years later... great old engines!!!
Exceptional coverage!!! Wonderful!!!
4932 has been sitting in Cooperstown Junction NY for decades, waiting for saving.
Wow I'm exactly the 39,000 viewer, and I was here too see footage of those Budd Metroliners! Great footage of it! Man those are fast!
Great stuff as always, thankyou Jack
0:30 is my favorite. I love the Amtrak GG1
That was amazing. Thank you.
Cool
Those were the classic RR days, I rode in a Metroliner from NY to Washington DC back in the 70's really flew down the track. I started videoing in 1982 and have been doing so up to today, got years of RR action, steam, diesel & electric, East, West Midwest, North & South. Need to find out how to download my stuff to share.
The last one was "big red" in Penn Central Scheme! :D
Jagged bacon Yes it was Jagged. Both heritage units where in there at the end. 4935 and 4877. Thanks for watching..
No problem.
Ik. It caught my eye when I saw it.
I Know Right!!!
Jesus, 18 car consist, not surprised at how well the Gs handled that one.
The E60s could apparently pull 20+ cars out of Penn Station with one truck cut out, reportedly.
those horns are so deep-pitched!
Those are all Leslie series horns.
That 18 car consist. Not surprised the G's could flounce away with such a train.
Also, am I the only one who noticed there was an ex-Seaboard Air Line Sun Lounge Car near the end of that long train?
Those GG1s were something else. The Pennsy pinstripes were sharp. This coming from an NYC fan.
Excellent historical footage 👍
Continued from last comment m. Stepping up the amperage. The sound was very audible. Like I've said these GG--1's were way ahead of there time. I am proud and privileged to had operated these locomotives. Any other questions would be appreciated. I will answer them to the best of my ability. P.S. locomotive engineers running trains on the main line did not use alcohol or drugs. That crew at the gunpowder river bridge, that went past the stop signal that caused the lives of the engineer and passengers ,were the exception to the rule. Any engineer that had any alcohol or drug problem, were barred from the main line, and the few that had these problems worked in the freight yards.
Fantastic video of a unique part of American railroading history! :D
I was just wondering, would it be possible for me to use this footage as part of an upcoming documentary I'm creating about the history of the Budd Metroliner?
I see Amtrak Locomotive 925 in Black at 0:07, and then Amtrak Locomotive 925 painted in Amtrak colors at 0:35. Of course the 2nd one may be 926, but it looked like a 5 to me.
We would take the train to Newark and then take the PATH to Harrison and photograph trains from the platform of the PATH station.
2:27 : Nice Metroliner. Rare to hear one where the one of the trumpets is not sour.
I was lucky enough to keep the Coin of the Metro first run still in its envelope,with my Dads
New York Central Book of Rules of 1943.
Very nice footage. Those Budd Metros are still run today on the Keystone Corridor
Amazing footage! 🤠
Amazing that you got BOTH 4935 AND 4877. Great video!!
@ble643 In this video, from 2:00-2:04 theres a GG1 blowing the horn. I also have another clip up "Penn Central GG-1's & E's on the NY&LB, 1976" that has a real good sounding horn as he passes. Thanks for looking...
Love those old GG1s
Surprisingly no Amfleets here...given that by early 1977 all corridor and short haul service in the Northeast would been converted to new Amfleet equipment.
cool video thank you, i love rr history like this
Glad you enjoyed it Dave, and thanks for watching.
In my opinion it's the best of electric locomotive
world!
the horns on the im guessing the GG-1's sound pretty cool.. awesome video
WOW. That sure us a old Amtrack engine. Nice video
GG1s were best of the best they rocked
You got that right! Never got tired of looking at GG1's.
More interesting to watch than today's stuff. I notice a 66 Chevy Biscayne 4-door sedan backed up to the tracks, too. Maybe that belonged to the photographer.
Nah g bridgeman. The Biscayne wasn't mine. I'm in an 18 wheeler. You can catch a glimps of the driver side mirror in about 3 or 4 clips at the beginning. I was standing on the door sill to get a little elevation. I always took my camera with me on my deliveries... Thanks for watching...
Thanks for posting the video. Too bad you didn't pan the parking lot between trains! LOL!
jackmp294.5™ Also,why is there Penn Central trains while Penn Central was long gone in 1976?
g bridgman Yep..
The good old days with heritage fleet
I wish NYC was still around. It would be interesting to ride on one
That would be nice. Would love to see a lot of the old road names back in use. Thanks for watching...
ah yes the metroliners a while before they were turned into cab cars
Ahh.. AMTK 926, that GG1 is located behind the NYS Fairgrounds.
The gg1 has a cool horn
That horn bellows!!! its probably signing baritone to say : "get outta the way. I'm BARRELING through"
No computers; life was so much simpler back then.
I remember when was a kid back then. The only opportunities we had for fun was to go for a bike ride, play in the park, watch TV, watch trains, or go see a movie. That was it, nothing else.
Now life is so full of things we have to remember, so many things that distract our attention.
I see the difference on the pilons yesterday and today, no poles over the track
The outer tracks handled commuter service. NY-Trenton,Phila-Trenton and Phila to Wilmington. Don't know if they did commuter service in Baltimore-DC.
@ble643 There's one in this video. Go to 2:00
The GG1s were known for their single-chime "blat" horns.
They had the famous Leslie A-200 horn which other locomotives and even small ships had!
and then on the westbound platform at North Elizabeth
I agree to that. The asbestos. Not good. I am pretty sure the GG-1 were service friendly
As is commonplace among amateur camera holders filming trains, they stand too close to see the locomotives well, and they move the camera so fast that what little you might have seen, is no better than blurred mass of indistinct images.
At least it something. You will never see this stuff again, so just grin and bare it. Its history, and its long gone.
Nothing beats the Aem7;s
One E60MA could do what it takes 2 or 3 AEM-7s to do. The AEM-7s are still really nice though.
metroliners are still in use today on Amtrak keystone train
The remains were converted into control cabs. They are still considered part of a train but no longer a locomotive. The last classic Amtrak locomotive in regular operation on the NEC is the AEM-7, which is being phased out completely next year.
Nice!
I miss that old rolling stock.
I do as well, and no qraffiti to boot.
the metroliners have good horns
May I use this footage for a documentary
Those first shots look like they're at Stiles St. Yd/ 176/177 Automatics
Ikr
Marquise Sanders Budd Metroliners have been rebuilt
why do the old locomotives always look the best
They sure did. They had style, and a good mix of builders back then. Not like all these squared off boxes that all look the same today. Thanks for watching.
does anyone have video with the gg1 blowijg there horns i havent found a vid wit one yet
That's PCB oil. I remember the mechanical dept. using PCB oil to wash there arms and hands. You have to know that the PCB oil,that was in the transformer's, was not known to be a hazard to your health. Unless these facts were being covered up. Thanks for the reply. Any other question's about the GG-1 I will answer if I can remember
GG1s had the best sounding horn. Makes up for the dullest livery in rail history......
I really liked the original Metroliners and as a kid always wanted to ride them but alas my family never travelled beyond Philly and didn't balked at the higher fare than the regular NE Corridor. By the time I was old enough to travel alone, the original Metroliners were removed. They looked sleek but alas they were lemons. The failure of the original Metroliners put PRR out of business for good and the once mighty company which revolutionised rail techonology went into the dust bin of history.
0:23 - What train is that?
Budd Metroliner. Originally ran by Penn Central later Amtrak. Now a frew of them are Cab cars without power to move. Only one original Metroliner is preserved. =/
Tremendous engines with awful horns. Always love some vintage passenger equipment
that is when government take over the railroads
AEM7s being phased out I have mess of Kodachrome. Slides of them collectors Iitems waiting to happen
I at least have 911 in Phase 3 (HO Scale) and E60CH 976 (Also HO Scale)