COMPLETE TOPAZ & NUMBY GUIDE! BEST BUILD - Light Cones, Relics, TEAM | Honkai: Star Rail
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- This is the most complete guide on the BEST ELATION DPS. TOPAZ and NUMBY is so fun! Honkai Star Rail Best Path is ELATION with follow-up attack.
Timecodes
0:00 Intro
0:48 Role/Kit
3:26 Breakdown
4:05 STATS
5:43 Lightcones
7:54 RELICS
9:19 Trace Priority
9:50 DPS TEAM
13:13 SUPPORTS
14:29 Sustains
15:40 E1 vs Signature
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I will be posting commonly asked questions and concerns on pinned comment.
Thanks for Watching and commenting BTW. I'll read them all =]
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1. Asta's SPEED buff is bad for Clara???
A. In scenarios where you're fighting 2 or less enemies, Clara having more speed can raise her energy requirement to keep up her Ult Taunt. But also in many situations where this isn't an issue,
SPEED doesnt hurt Clara at all. In any case, abuse the fact that you can "waste SPD buffs" by using Asta Ult right before Clara is about to take a turn to have the SPD buff last only 1 turns. In my testings, Clara works just fine with Asta. Planetary rendezvous is recommended over Dance Dance Dance if I may add.
2. An oversight on my part, Swordplay is theoretically the best non-signature LC, but it's complete RNG if you don't pull on weapon banners. Some people will end up with s5, s1 or none. S5 is much more consistent to obtain to S5 for a F2P or beginner.
3. Is Numby male or female?
A. good question.
4. Would you recommend pulling for her if you don’t have any follow up attacker? How would she fair alone?
A. She will do well alone in single target fights. but with the meta keep pushing AOE since all we been getting are destruction DPS's, I can't confidently say when Hunt/Single target will start to shine again.
Is swordplay count numby too? It description said only the wearer but topaz damage mostly come from numby follow up attack
LC is equiped on Topaz AND Numby, they are 1 character not 2.@@johnsteve39
my favorite thing about clara's ult is the impilcation that you don't even need to touch clara for svarog to counter, just launch an attack in her general direction and he will turn you into mist.
If I get Topaz I’ll get good Economics scores, trust
I really like the star rating system when it comes to team building; gives me more confidence in my choices compared to other creators just listing every support.
right ? so much better than other HSR tubers
16:16 “W-what’s ha-appending to m-meeee!” *turns into a trotter*
Yes
My favourite character
from Special Investment Division
P-44
Jingliu and Numby
This guide is so well done, congratulations!
Thanks a lot!
Ohh well this guide was by far the best I've seen! Iyo and his group - please take notes!|
I especially appreciate the efforts into actual visual representation of data and not just voice over and random animation in the background.
Amazing guide, keep up the good work 🎉
I finally found your channel again, couldn't find you for the love of me 😅 Glad to see you again, Gladius.
I want Topaz and possibly Guinaifen too, but I heard from other people's dreams that SW is close... Well, you know what they say: *"The hardest choices require the strongest wills."*
Glad to see you too
Thanks for your effort for these Guides really appreciate it!
My pleasure!
Side note: The next mc we will get is prob gonna be imaginary harmony. He will buff break in generell and do all lot of follow up attacks if the ally he blessed uses a skill or breaks the enemy. So regardless of you having follow up attack characters or not she is going to get really good in the future without you having to do anything. These information are only speculation but i think they are pretty likely to be true. In the future you could play Topaz with Jingliu and the new mc. Jingliu spams skills, mc does follow ups and then topaz does them as well. Because those are 3 different types you will break pretty consistent and often, wich would mean even more follow ups. If this happens then the game will be even more “my turn only” then it already is.
I had a dream where we get a dedicated Follow up attack relic set, WHAT A DREAM
Wow what an excellent dream , I had one where we get dot dmg set :clueless:
@@Wrexer 😅
Oo man I hope this dream realises in the future
Whales be like: "Why nobody talks about Bronya E4 ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)"
🤣
Maybe in a few years but knowing my luck I'd get E6 welt and his Sig Lc
@@timegame8026 Welt's E6 is not a follow-up, but gl
@@Overdrave I was just referring to what I'm gonna get not who is a follow-up. He's the one that appeared twice. Including his Lc
Определённо лучшее руководство, моё почтение
By far the best topaz guide pre release
Interesting take. I already was planning to swordsplay but the effect I get from it is half only since it's S1 only.
thank you so much fo this vid
you're welcome =]
Really ready for that FUA Relic Set dream to come true - gonna spend weeks in that Cavern, gearing Jing Yuan and Topaz.
good luck, I'm doing for Topaz + Clara (2pc)
when is it coming out?
1.5@@amiruladli8331
Instant subscribe just for the animal facts😎
Great guide! You earned my sub.
For relics though personally I have never farmed the fire set domain, it's so bad
I'm thinking to just give her 2 ATK and 2 random pieces with good sub-stats. Would there be any better inner 2 sets in the foreseeable future?
focus on inner sets for now. will be best in slot for long time.
QQ and bronya E4 also have follow-up attacks
I'm aware =]
I can’t get 1 bronya I don’t think I’ll get 5 more any time soon
While Topaz can do good single target dmg i wouldn't recommend pulling her if youre iffy IF you dont have or use follow up attackers. They buff one another which is super cool.
When you compare E1 vs LC do you count S5 swordplay in to that equation? Does she do more damage with/Does it make more sense to go for E0S1(signature) or E1S5(swordplay)?
I would still go for LC for the versatility.
@@GladiusCC ok ty!
Great video! Are you also gonna do one for guinaifen
HuoHuo next
That's it, gonna get her for my Jing Yuan's E6. LET'S GO THICC QUEEN
I’m gonna pull for her but I won’t build her yet cuz they’re gonna release for sure a follow up attack dedicated set
16:20 why numby, it should have been me!
I just really want to use herta so topaz is perfect for that!
That march, Clara, topaz + 1 comp is going to be busted for manual play. March's freeze is actually great as an emergency button when used tactically so as to not interrupt enemies attacks without reason.
I watch so much random science and fact videos that I forgot I clicked on a hsr video and I thought this was actually about symbiotic relationships
XD
I’ve been debating between Topaz and Seele. I have Dan Heng IL and was lucky and got his Light Cone too, so he’s busted and I don’t know if I need another hypercarry at the moment. With the characters that I have built (Jing Yuan, Clara, March, Himeko) Topaz might be better for them. Although, I am still Bronyaless…if I lose 50/50 and get Bronya I’ll definitely go for Seele (they should not be separated). I’ll just have to see how Friday goes I guess.
good luck =]
I've read online conflicting reports about the 4-piece fire set, where some people say the extra damage DOES work with Numby's follow up attacks, and others saying it DOES NOT work with them. How do you confirm if it does or doesnt work with them, at least until Topaz is out?
It does work, don't know why it wouldn't. But that's not the problem, the uptime is terrible, 12% dmg bonus is also not great.
Here’s a fun fact: Jing Yuan’s talent has the highest multiplier in the game at 660% when maxed against a single target
although a high number, its important to remember its 66 x 10, meaning you have to reapply the enemys defense 10 times
And yet he hits like a wet noodle compared to DHIL (in my case)
@@wolfbyte131Is there a difference?
@@dee6561 honestly im not 100% sure, but based off my testing, my seele's basic does 100% of her attack while her skill does only 200% of her attack.
on the same enemy, same conditions, multiple tests, basic did 3000-4400, while skill did 9800-11400. two basic attacks (100% + 100%) != one skill (200%). but i could be missing something, so take this with a grain of salt
edit: i also tested her ult, which does 400% of her attack + 65% dmg boost (because shes considered in resurgence state during ult) and that did 40,000 which isnt the same as 4400 X 4 X 1.65
my seele has the worlds worst substats btw lol
@@wolfbyte131the defense multiplier is multiplicative and stay the same regardless of the number of hits. running your mouth without proper understanding of the most basic mechanic ☹️
Digimon reference, nice.
Can you show us the stats requirement for stats you used for swordplay and stellar sea? I have them both on s5, 60/145 crit with swordplay and 67/180 with stellar sea and same atk which one would you rate higher?
with that ratio, I like Stellar Sea. Having a 1:2 crit ratio really helped it.
@@GladiusCCthanks!
I'm Clara main so pulling for Topaz is a no-brainer, not sure if using Asta could make Clara move too fast tho
You could alternatively use tinyun at e2 and equip her with the dance dance dance lc and the speed set, she could advance the teams action pretty well, not as well as asta, but still pretty good and not too speedy for Clara. You could also use Bronya if you have her :]
OH WAIT her speed bonus is at e1 my mistake ^^”
@@SaimuraisGood thing I just got my E1 Tingus
I understand her animations are underwhelming nah bruh she’s cool asf and to have someone like her enabling my favorite gameplay style FUA will be so much fun in simulated universe elation runs
I will be pulling all Elation path characters
A good thing about hsr is even tho I don’t have Clara I can obtain her guaranteed after reaching 300 standard wishes so I’m gonna pull for topaz😊 future investments at his best
good luck
You means Topaz Guide?
You might be right about that
I'm gonna need someone to explain to me how Asta and Clara on the same team isn't completely counterintuitive. It makes more sense in my brain to just bring Tingyun so you can double down on one of the two's strengths rather than trying to buff both. Yes Tingyun can only buff one at a time but very rarely are both characters going to be as useful as each other at the same time. As of right now, nothing in the game is weak to both fire and physical at the same time. So either you're in scenario A) you're bringing Clara into a physical weak boss and she's the primary damage dealer, in which case Topaz will serve her role as a debuffer with her vulnerability and contribute minor damage every now and then with numby's advances. This also adds value to the Tingyun pick because it becomes less random for you to hit the actual marked target since your ult uptime is getting improved to a point of consistency. Scenario B) You're vs an elite that's fire weak and Topaz is the primary damage dealer. The Asta pick isn't horrible in this scenario, as the anti-synergy with Clara isn't as apparent and you're being partial to Topaz to begin with. However, I begin to wonder why not just run Tingyun for the attack + dmg% buffs she grants, as well as the invaluable energy gain she can provide that are very welcome for a 130 cost. Clara is going to do her job in that comp regardless, despite it being more up in the air whether the boss hits her (which is mostly fixed by having Lynx on the team increasing her chance to be hit to around 70% before ultimate), and Topaz gets to do her job as the fire carry while fully utilizing her own debuffs. I think trying to use Asta/Yukong are trying to spread oneself thin when you can simply play Tingyun in a more dynamic way and get better results. And once we get our hands on Huohuo, Asta becomes even more redundant as then we'll have teamwide attack buff and teamwide energy gain (which Tingyun Clara and Topaz all mutually benefit from, and Huohuo likes having Topaz on the team too as it fulfills the teammate energy cost requirement for her energy regen trace).
You're right.
Yeah I hope people aren't smashing Asta in a team that has Clara
I plan on running Topaz, Tingyun, Clara, (whatever healer)
I'll take the ER that Tingyun provides over more speed, just use SPD boots and an ATK rope
Asta in the team is to boost topaz fire elemental dmg as Planetary rendezvous have permanent uptime. asta also can massively boost speed up so that Numby hit more often. Topaz in essence can still do dps. She's just buffing FuA of other in the process.
Its not a top choice but it can get the job done. for topaz that is
I ain’t reading all that but I agree
I've done many testing with Asta and Clara, unless you're using dance dance dance or using Clara with SPD boots (which you shouldn't be). Speed isn't an issue and not anti-synergistic. If you're ever in a spot where SPD hurts Clara's Ult uptime, you can always glitch Asta's 2 turn spd buff into 1 by using it before Clara goes. Also, Planetary rendezvous is recommended for even better Topaz DMG. Asta's Permanent 70% ATK is teamwide and really hard to beat.
I have to disagree with the boots, although yes it could benefit you more in a single, doube or triple wave by dealing higher damage and ending it fast. I would prefer speed, since it affects both Numby and Topaz, not to mention the more action you take the easier you fill the ult bar and of course the more you get Stonks ultimate, the higher damage you dealt
Would you recommend pulling for her if you don’t have any follow up attacker? How would she fair alone?
Like the guide mentions, she's meant to be a sub-dps to SUPPORT a followup attacker. It literally shows at 10:38 how she would fare as a hypercarry; not that great. If Topaz is the only followup attacker hitting the enemy, Numby won't be attacking as often as you need to deal consistent damage.
@@calobta4569 Gotcha. I watch that part I just didn't fully understand it. It makes sense now that you brought up the numby part.
She will do well alone in single target fights. but with the meta keep pushing AOE since all we been getting are destruction DPS's, I can't confidently say when Hunt/Single target will start to shine again.
Im thinking bronya will eventually be one of her best supports as soon a there is a follow up attacker that has as many follow up attacks as clara that trigger differently *cough cough fancy buterfy robot cough cough
sus, not surprised
will qingque be good with her? she also has a follow up at e4
I think other harmoney/nihility character will buff QQ dmg more than Topaz as a whole. Topaz will be fun to experiment with tho.
aight time to get clara
good luck
Yanqing Players: why we still here, just to suffer.. give our boy some love :(
Need a hunt meta
Might have missed it but will she work well with QQ at E4 and higher?
If you get lucky and proc Autarky every turn, then it seems useable.
works, pretty RNG tho
how dare you exclude qingque, the best follow up attacker
Didn't want QingQue to steal her thunder
fair
I am going to try a team of Himeko, Topaz, Silver Wolf and Fu Xuan. Himeko's AoE is strong enough that I think focusing down a priority target with Silver Wolf and Topaz will beneficial. This team will also be able to break toughness bars for Himeko very consistently.
yea, would help too if adds are fire weak
@@GladiusCC thats what Silver Wolf is for. If the enemies are already Fire or Quantum weak then you can just add the other weakness to break more often.
I feel like Tingyun can be a great addition to the team, and should be a 4/4.5 in the rating instead of 3.5. Yes, she can only buff one person; but she can have Clara keep her Ult up for much longer. When things shift from an AoE to a single-target situation, Tingyun can then buff Topaz instead for the strong single-target damage.
That said, I have Asta built up but not Tingyun (wild, I know) so I'll be trying with Asta first and seeing how that goes. More speed = more Numby damage, plus Asta has that great synergy with Fire attackers and Charge will boost everyone. Since we don't know Topaz's numbers yet (afaik), if that Numby damage is high that'll help Asta's case.
Likely can't go wrong with either choice though, so "use the waifu" is the best way to decide between the two.
if the fight is heavily single target gated, Clara's weakness will be offset by better Topaz's performance. Topaz will likely just replace Clara and opt for a more hypercarry style team. So yea Tingyun will be better utilized, but introducing Tingyun will likely be replacing Clara and not other supports。 So TingYun can be good situationally, just not as universal as she usually is. Usually TingYun is 4 or 4.5 in most star rail teams. Bronya is usually a 5, but gets taxed heavily by limitations.
@@GladiusCCThat's fair yeah, never really thought of it that way; I haven't been too blessed for making "hypercarries" so that idea missed me completely.
After Topaz is built, Tingyun is definitely being built next either way.
I want to put clara, himeko and topaz in a team
Is that too much dmg ? 😅 i want to try these 3 together but i dont know if thats good
I will be trying this team and similar teams, I built my Clara pure tank, just so I can make this work.
Pair it with lynx and its going to perform pretty well. She could solo sustain because of the aggro she gives clara. You would also break really consistently because of the 4different types. I think the team will be pretty solid and a lot of fun so go for it!
I have to disagree with the boots, although yes it could benefit you more in a single, doube or triple wave by dealing higher damage and ending it fast. I would prefer speed, since it affects both Numby and Topaz, not to mention the more action you take the easier you fill the ult bar and of course the more you get Stonks ultimate, the higher damage you dealt.
Well in this case you talked about being hyper carry, but I saw her as more of a Sub dps support, so I'd rather prioritize running speed boost and recover more skill points for the main dps. Rather than atk boots
Compared to the current banner which is better for new player ?
JingLiu, namely TingYun is on it.
Why cant i like this twice?
I hope I'll get Topaz by winning the 50/50,the lc banner is guaranteed and man I'm liking her kit more and more.
good luck!
What if I use e2s1 bronya with jy topaz
I wouldn't advice this unless you are willing to remove the preservation/abundance slot for TY (Or want to stick trying to make her a Hypercarry instead) JY needs TY for
topaz will be at a supportive role in this, and generating skill points. But I see it working
17:18 and harmony
nihility..ish
Topaz/himiko/SW/lynx?
yup, if already weak to fire, then ASTA
Great guide, thanks, but swordplay isn't really F2P
it's F2P friendly ISH... lol really RNG
Unfortunately the only FUA unit i have is herta so i either dont use a FUA with topaz or i build herta
there'll be more in future. Also Himeko/Clara is standard
@@GladiusCC I don't have himeko or Clara unfortunately, I have Clara's lightcone tho 🗿
Herta will be great in the future trust 🗿
@@Killer-xc7wu guess I'll build her now then
@@JustSippingTea W decision
what does fire res pen mean
-10 res when attacking enemies, roughly 10% increase output
@@GladiusCC i see thankss
Imagine Topaz, Clara, March, and Bronya
Why bronya? Pela asta or sw are 10 times better
I also want to try solo sustain Clara, I have full tank relics ready.
@@marcocartaerainnocente7374 bronya got follow atk at e4
Is sword play free to play??
comparatively to signature
@@GladiusCC oh ok thanks
"Best F2P option is Swordplay" Yeah bro very f2p I have none and I play since day 1
Numby isnt a pig
technically a extraterrestrial Sus scrofa
Joe Biden guide pls
Is Numby male or female?
Good question
I’ll go for e0s0, in the future if she proof herself, i will invest more