SUUCH drama. How is it you think their 767's were "SOOO OOLLLDDD" when they were the same vintage as those at QF, and they used theirs a further 6yr. The condition of Ansett's fleet was not the issue. It was an unnecessarily diverse fleet, among a raft of poor management decisions over the years, that led to its demise.
I loved Ansett and always flew this over Australian Airlines (later Qantas) I still blame Air New Zealand and will never fly them because of this. Ansett was the best!
Again, another brilliant video. Some more info was the Pilot strike of 89 had huge ramification on the industry, which it is suggested that the AN never fully recovered from this point.
Great way to showcase this airline, use to be a fan years ago in the UK. I believe I use to get a monthly magazine. Now I live down here in Au and use to film planes taking off and landing etc. ... and then I found the mention.Thanks! Mikeycbd
A couple interesting misses in the demise: 1. The grounding of part of the fleet due to lax maintenance by the Safety Authorities, this massively impacts public sentiment towards flying with them. 2. The impact of the 911 attacks in New York on the global aviation industry was a big nail in the coffin. It covers well what happened from the point of failure, but far more could have been done to understand how it got to requiring administration in the first place.
No. Based on this video and the fact I was at Ansett when it collapsed tells me he did no research at all. There are so many errors and bullshit he’s made up to list meaning this video is effectively worthless with very few factual parts.
Thanks for the video never knew about the oranges that was so smart of Mr Ansett, I saw on another video that at one stsge Air NZ had their fuel costs charged to Ansett how is that legal?
Not researched extensively enough. The handful of 767-200’s were certainly ‘mature’ but as another viewer commented, similar vintage to QF’s. The A320’s were not in any way old. Some good footage, but the narrative requires a deeper level of research. Any historic presentation requires comprehensive research and cross-checking of ‘facts’.
Whoa, I have to call you out. You are being disingenuous with your description of the AN fleet being "old". The A320s were definitely not old. The youngest of them was only delivered in late 1997 - so by the collapse, they were barely four years old. The oldest A320s were delivered in 1988, so they were just twelve years old. Averaged out, that is not, by any means, an old fleet, and the newer deliveries were still very much young aircraft. It's little wonder that AN mark 2 chose and utilised the A320s over the 737s. Your point is more valid if we look at the 737 fleet. But still: the original AN 737s were delivered from 1986, so by 2001 were 15 years old. That means AN's oldest 737 in 2001 was still younger than the 737s QF got from an cancelled American order in 2001, which are still flying today, at 23 years old. My point is: in 2001, AN still had some very serviceable aircraft and its fleet wasn't the old, crumbling and decrepit fleet you are making it out to be. Admittedly AN had some secondhand 737s delivered from the mid-1990s which were older, being mid-1980s build aircraft - these were definitely old by 2001. And yes, AN's early 1980s build 767s were at the end of their life. The 747-312s were leased but had been replaced by newer ex-SQ 747-412s. The Fokker 50s and the BAE146s were from the mid-1980s but none of these aircraft were ever going to fly with AN Mark 2. The main problem with AN's fleet was the complexity of it. AN simply had too many types for the size of the airline. More types means more cost - additional crew, additional complexity in maintenance, additional complexity in scheduling. The complexity of the AN fleet was a much bigger factor in the demise of AN, rather than the age of the fleet.
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SUUCH drama. How is it you think their 767's were "SOOO OOLLLDDD" when they were the same vintage as those at QF, and they used theirs a further 6yr. The condition of Ansett's fleet was not the issue. It was an unnecessarily diverse fleet, among a raft of poor management decisions over the years, that led to its demise.
Thanks form such a great video on the demise of Ansett.
I loved Ansett and always flew this over Australian Airlines (later Qantas) I still blame Air New Zealand and will never fly them because of this. Ansett was the best!
Excellent video mate, you've clearly done your research and you presented it excellently!
Again, another brilliant video. Some more info was the Pilot strike of 89 had huge ramification on the industry, which it is suggested that the AN never fully recovered from this point.
Great way to showcase this airline, use to be a fan years ago in the UK. I believe I use to get a monthly magazine. Now I live down here in Au and use to film planes taking off and landing etc. ... and then I found the mention.Thanks! Mikeycbd
My Dad used to work for them. 737 300 Vh czt is still flying in Iran as ep vav
A couple interesting misses in the demise:
1. The grounding of part of the fleet due to lax maintenance by the Safety Authorities, this massively impacts public sentiment towards flying with them.
2. The impact of the 911 attacks in New York on the global aviation industry was a big nail in the coffin.
It covers well what happened from the point of failure, but far more could have been done to understand how it got to requiring administration in the first place.
this is such an underated channel. Keep going and you will become one of the largest aviation channels on TH-cam
No. Based on this video and the fact I was at Ansett when it collapsed tells me he did no research at all. There are so many errors and bullshit he’s made up to list meaning this video is effectively worthless with very few factual parts.
Thanks for the video never knew about the oranges that was so smart of Mr Ansett, I saw on another video that at one stsge Air NZ had their fuel costs charged to Ansett how is that legal?
Vh hyg a320 200 is still flying in Jordan
Not researched extensively enough. The handful of 767-200’s were certainly ‘mature’ but as another viewer commented, similar vintage to QF’s. The A320’s were not in any way old. Some good footage, but the narrative requires a deeper level of research. Any historic presentation requires comprehensive research and cross-checking of ‘facts’.
How old are you just out of curiosity because you sound very young to know all that
Whoa, I have to call you out. You are being disingenuous with your description of the AN fleet being "old".
The A320s were definitely not old. The youngest of them was only delivered in late 1997 - so by the collapse, they were barely four years old. The oldest A320s were delivered in 1988, so they were just twelve years old. Averaged out, that is not, by any means, an old fleet, and the newer deliveries were still very much young aircraft. It's little wonder that AN mark 2 chose and utilised the A320s over the 737s.
Your point is more valid if we look at the 737 fleet. But still: the original AN 737s were delivered from 1986, so by 2001 were 15 years old. That means AN's oldest 737 in 2001 was still younger than the 737s QF got from an cancelled American order in 2001, which are still flying today, at 23 years old. My point is: in 2001, AN still had some very serviceable aircraft and its fleet wasn't the old, crumbling and decrepit fleet you are making it out to be.
Admittedly AN had some secondhand 737s delivered from the mid-1990s which were older, being mid-1980s build aircraft - these were definitely old by 2001. And yes, AN's early 1980s build 767s were at the end of their life. The 747-312s were leased but had been replaced by newer ex-SQ 747-412s. The Fokker 50s and the BAE146s were from the mid-1980s but none of these aircraft were ever going to fly with AN Mark 2.
The main problem with AN's fleet was the complexity of it. AN simply had too many types for the size of the airline. More types means more cost - additional crew, additional complexity in maintenance, additional complexity in scheduling. The complexity of the AN fleet was a much bigger factor in the demise of AN, rather than the age of the fleet.