My dear friend tragically past away two days ago and I can’t stop watching tragic deaths on TH-cam. Morbid I know, I am so distraught. She left two young children. If you see this please hug your loved ones, enjoy the little things and pray for my friend and her family. I would greatly appreciate it!
Frederick Valentich who was a pilot is still missing from 1978 in another unsolved flight mystery between Melbourne and King Island Australia. Even more mysterious and puzzling if you look into this case.
@@sperera5916 Very young man on the way to King Island radioed that he was being followed by a strange craft which was above him and described it to the control tower. The tower couldn't see anything on radar. His last transmission was saying the object was coming on top of him and you could hear a metallic like sound. He vanished and his plane. Witnesses say there was a unusual object in the sky close to him and radar towers including RAaf had tracked an unidentified object around the area. There's a lot to the case which is fascinating. Cheers
Flying an unserviceable aircraft together with a bad case of get-there-itis and a "she'll be right" attitude is a recipe for disaster ... which is exactly what happened. Bad decision after bad decision and his passengers paid the price of his recklessness with their lives.
An experienced pilot should have been able to get out of that situation, pilots operating in PNG fly in much worse conditions over mountains in thunderstorms, without GPS you can still get a fix on your position using a sextant
This should never have happened And to hear Mr Smith say " Nothing's been done about this incident" is shameful to those involved I mean the Authorities Someone one day will find this plane as they do
Many types of people could be assassinated for unknown reasons or motives. Corrupt police or good police knowing too much about powerful crime organizations. Anything like that.
Maybe it's because I'm 50 years old this July but I can't stop crying about them and their families. Jesus Christ all mighty! My deepest condolences and my prayers and thoughts to the victims. From the antipodes Oeiras PORTUGAL
Jose you are clearly a humanitarian. I know lad, this world can fill us all with despair. You are not alone. Don’t take it too hard, the almighty works in mysterious ways.🕊🏴👍
I've never been to Australia. But that lady said a huge SNOW cloud. It doesn't SNOW in Australia does it. I researched it online IT DOES SNOW IN SOME PARTS OF AUSTRALIA. Learn something new everyday
In this part of Australia, especially in the alpine regions of Victoria and New South Wales nearer the east coast (as opposed to the desert inland, Northern Territory and Western Australia, for example), it can snow heavily.
It also snows north of alpine regions and the area in this video is Mid North Coast New South Wales 3.5 hours north of Sydney. In Winter it can snow heavily - it is part of The Great Dividing Range.
Ditto I teared up can you imagine how he felt 🥺 I found it odd though that no one had shown them the last video of them until now. It would be the first thing I'd want to share with the families.
@@firewaterbydesign true but they didn't know the video existed. I'd have given them the option, that is all. I'm not condemning anyone I just found it strange.
Don’t forget the young bloke who disappeared flying south over Bass Straight back in the 70’s i think, maybe early 80’s. Radio transmition records clearly reveal a UFO encounter that is very freaky and pilot and plane simply vanished. Flying small plane from Melbourne, Victoria to Flinders Island, Tasmania i think.
That happened in Michigan too. Over lake superior. From my understanding the jet was never found. It was scrambled to chase an object in the sky. It made contact and was loss. Strange.
This plane crashed due to pilot error before taking off, weather conditions brought the misfortune of added pressure by limited route alternatives and the plane did not "vanish" it crashed in dense jungle making it impossible to see from the air.
@@r.martin3494 yes ok, we are talking about the disappearance of Frederick Valentich (thanks pslpom) and his plane that vanished in very weird way. Check out his story, you will be surprised.
Anybody else remember the Frederic Valentic case on Unsolved Mysteries? Took off from Morrabbin airport in a small aircraft. Spotted a UFO and then vanished.
What’s the mystery here? They were flying over mountains, and at night, which means virtually no visual reference to the ground. Whether they were IFR or VFR, I think you can put two and two together and assume CFIT into the mountains. And given the “unreachable terrain” (in this video’s own words) nobody’s stumbled across the wreckage.
@@alanstevens1296 Sad that the pilot ended up ruining so many people’s lives, many decades later. Kind of like Aeroperu 603, the instrument failure and no visual reference to the ground led to hundreds dying, except that this pilot did that voluntarily. Total death wish - RIP.
Should have declared an emergency immediately the instrument failures started and flown back to and along the coast regardless, especially in weather like that. Pilot at fault.
The comment at 1:40... ‘It’s the only Australian civil aviation incident that’s never been solved.’ Is that right? Well, what about Frederick Valentich who disappeared over Bass Strait, flying a Cessna 182L from Melbourne to King Island on the evening of 21st October 1978? He reported being buzzed by an object he said was ‘not a plane.’ Nothing was ever found of him or his plane. Whatever happened to Frederick Valentich, let us remember him, and may he Rest In Peace, wherever he is.
Wow. That certainly is going to be hard to find since everything is probably grown over it by now. But one day in the future some adventurous person is going to find the missing plane
@Popeye 200 day top... what? Top that? Tops? There's no way that it takes 200 days to drop troopers from a Heli a few times. GPS, drop some supplies, etc. After 30 years, there's a snowball's chance in that very warm place that they'll find anything, right?
That whole area will be concrete and brick in another 100 years with the way population growth is happening. Population has nearly doubled just since that plane went down.
We know what happened to Valentich, but some people don't like the truth. He was abducted. Aircraft and all. America just admitted it's AATIP. Advanced aerospace threat indetification program. And more people have been, and will continue to be snatched off of our planet for a long time to come. Our technology is primative. Good luck.
I think there are others one was a Tiger Moth that went missing flying over Bass Strait to Tasmanian with an experienced pilot and female journalist or author passenger about thirty five years ago
That was a well put together episode, I can't imagine losing a loved one like that with nothing being done in the length of time. So glad I watched this!
Many searches have been conducted over the years. Sadly, finding MDX is even harder than finding the proverbial needle in a haystack. Little to nothing, save the fuselage, would be left. And if it buried on impact, it will be all but impossible to locate. If it’s ever located, it will most likely be by sheer accident.
There are so many things that compounded this tragedy and went towards the crash. I pray they find them one day and give the families and friends the closure they so desperately need. Rest in Peace gentlemen 🖤🙏😔
This plane crashed due to pilot error before taking off, weather conditions brought the misfortune of added pressure and the plane did not "vanish" it crashed in dense jungle making it impossible to see from the air when camouflaged by falling green forest canopy possibly in an almost vertical crash by the end. It was a light aircraft not a small commercial jetliner and that's a big jungle, it's akin to searching for a person in a life vest - bobbing about in deep waves at sea. We can only hope and pray for the relatives that remains are found one day or that they all survived but dispersed suffering amnesia and are happily living a new life nearby still in Australia. 🇦🇺 [By the way the "Devil's Triangle" the world knows of the most is of course off the coast of Bermuda, USA, not this one in Australia... ...Just to allay any reader confusion].
Also it says early on in the video this is Australia's only unsolved aviation mystery but ... Frederick Valentich was an Australian pilot who disappeared while on a 125-nautical-mile (232 km) training flight in a Cessna 182L light aircraft, registered VH-DSJ,[1] over Bass Strait on the evening of Saturday 21 October 1978. Reported UFO before vanishing so with everything the Pentagon/ navy confirmed recently I guess we should look into all possibilities for all incidents past and present.
My son was born in 1981 and he's 39 yrs old . So this show says it's early & obviously this must be an old show. Sounds like it just happened but was always interested in the Burmuda etc Triangles.
😳 five thousand gave me chills. I can literally feel the rawness as I listen. Also being a pilot myself meant this was difficult to hear and made the events on this day so long ago feel as real as if it was today. My sincere condolences to the families 33 years on😔❤️
The military possess gear which scans the landscape surface eliminating the trees and vegetation. Why don't they use it ? A few days and the job's done .
in the sierras of california over 500 planes have gone down,many never found...same in Nevada,a state with endless mountain ranges over 500 planes missing never found--my friend found a missing jet fighter in northern nevada when they where on their dirt bikes in a remote area that had been missing for years...
I just spotted that and there are 2 separate white things in that section of the video if you look carefully! looks like they are about 20 to 30 yards apart..
Yes, I spotted that too. Just looking through the comments to see if anyone else noticed. Looks very much like the front of a plane to me. Also, it seems like there's a gap in the trees in a pretty straight line behind - maybe where the forest was disrupted as the plane down?
As for unsolved plane mysteriesin aust. What about the bloke who went missing over bass straight in the mid/late 70s after seeing and reporting strange lights. They never found the wreckage or where he disappeared to from memory. He too vanished from radar and never reappeared, from memory
Mike Hart, the air traffic control guy communicating with MDX , was briefly one of my instructors at Camden Aviation when I was doing my night rating in the late 90's as part of my cpl training
Definitely wasn't a pilot error, I would've jumped out of the plane if i lost so many controls in fraction of seconds. Its a governmental error that so many planes have to take the mountain route.
My sincere condolences...tearing eyes...i really hope someone finds the wreck & hopefully solves it....thank you for uploading it & love to know the update😣
When we realize that for decades hundreds of planes and boats as well as thousands of people have vanished without leaving the slightest trace, we can no longer speak of a 'phenomenon' but quite simply of intelligent kidnappings, in other words of abductions by a more advanced intelligence. We are not alone. The best book I know relating to this 'phenomenon' is French and is entitled 'Disparitions Mystérieuses Le Cosmos Nous Observe' released in 1973 and written by Patrice Gaston. Strangely, it has never been translated into any other language.
Thank you for posting it’s too sad ☹️ to watch till the end of video I am stared to cry .Rip to all victims who lost their young life’s tragic and sad in same time ☹️☹️☹️
" critical component on the plane that allows you to fly at night " and the guy wants to blame the airport on the coast for making the guy delay...he had the option to turn back...did he not...nobody forced him onward...why pilot not have GYRO issued resolved before taking off.
He reports flying over Taree which has the capability for him to land. I've often wondered why they didn't turn him back to here (Taree). It is a bizarre series of events that lead to a terrible tragedy. He never should have attempted to fly down once the Gyros etc weren't functioning. But we don't know what was going on re: his passengers. May they all rest in peace. 🙏😔
@@seren9613 He never declared an official emergency. So they let him push on. This accident has helped train ATC in giving more options to the pilot and escalating an issue even if the pilot does not declare it. Pilots are also more likely to divert and declare an emergency. "Don't be a Hero". "Better to explain why you canceled the flight then for people to try to find out why you didn't"
@@lachlanlandreth9069 Thanks so much for explaining it to me. I didn't realise this case changed things I'm not an expert or a pilot. It's something I wondered about is all.
How is this the military's fault at all? A pilot with 3,500 hours should know about the restricted airspace, weather and make sure all your instruments are working with preflight checks. The entire cause of this is pilot error. RIP
Based on the (limited) flying I've done... 1 - Always, always get the weather report for your planned flight path. And *never* fly a small private plane unless the weather is perfect. 2 - Never fly instrument when your instruments are not working 3 - Never fly into bad weather (especially) in a single-engine piston airplane which cannot fly above a storm 4 - Never fly tired, especially when you just have about 2,500 hours (and only 27 hours on that airplane type) All told, unfortunately the pilot's fault (100%). _Also, discovering the plane is extremely difficult in such terrain, the famous aviator Steve Fossett crashed his plane in the Sierra Nevada mountains (which does not have dense vegetation) and a gigantic search effort still did not find his plane. It was found by accident by a hiker much later_
The Plane should have been over Singleton but it was 58 km off course over Barrington Tops .... faulty instruments, should not have been flying blind. Sad but avoidable ....
Did y’all hear when he said his compass was spinning like crazy!!! What if they went through a worm hole or something.. only time when A compass does that Is when the earths magnetic field gets disrupted!!!
This really hurt my heart to watch I can't stop sobbing 😪 At this point we do not need to point fingers at who was at fault. They were all somewhat of daredevils! We need to truly think about the beautiful lives that are not with us. Rest in Peace 🍃🕊🍃 Sending condolences and Prayers. From, Katrinka San Francisco Bay Area
Australia's biggest aviation mystery ??? 6 Aussies were on MH370, Australia participated in the biggest and one of the most exensive aviation searches ever, and they have no idea when or why the plane went down. In this incident, they have MAYDAY recording.
I would love to find this. My dad went missing on the sea and theres no way my feet can reach under the sea..but this is a land more hope to fined them.
That plane should never have been in the air, at night time, with broken instruments, in near zero visibility, in stormy conditions. What the hell was the pilot thinking? That was a very old, crumbling plane, to make matters much worse. Makes no sense at all. Yesh Prabhu, Bushkill, Pennsylvania
Hi. At 19:35 on the video when your camera moved over the mountains, i am sure i spot what looks like a white wing of an aircraft. At the bottom of the screen. ?? I am from South- Africa. Would love to see the family get closure and find the aircraft.
@@estiejonker3872 Well, since there is nobody searching for them and the plane, at least you tried. I would suggest people to try to use Google Earth and search there? But it is a jungle, very hard. They should have checked it with a scanning for metal from a helicopter. They can scan the ocean, so why not the jungle?
Fascinating but definitely NOT the last unsolved aviation mystery. We still have Fred Valencia in Bass Strait and the Merimbula businessman who disappeared near Mumbulla mountain, Bega NSW. ☕️🦘
this seems like pilot error to me. if you have to get clearance and that clearance can be denied then the pilor should not have assumed clearance would be granted.
2013 I was standing in my backyard 3am having a smoke with my gf we watched a plane fly from Melbourne to Sydney direction as 3 solid lights/UFO come from 3 seperate directions all crossed paths at the same time , the same time the crossed paths was exactly the same time the 3 crossed paths with the flashing light/plane then they kept going the direction they wer traveling but the plane/flashing lights the 3 UFO crossed paths on disappeared we kept waiting to hear about a flight that didn’t not show up but we never did we watched the 3 UFO solid lights travel the directions they wer already headed but the flashing light we did not see again in the sky just vanished and if anyone knows what a plane looks like at night you can see the light flashing until it’s out of sight these things crossed paths with the plane they kept going the plane DID NOT
We got a small plane missing somewhere in Alaska that's got some important government people on it missing for 30 some years and then we got another bigger type playing missing somewhere around lake Erie with about 50 people on it been missing for 50 years
typical coimpounding sequence of events that lots of experienced pilots incist in going a head when they should not. Yea, certain death is sure. Sad to see what happened. RIP
What's "coimpounding"? What's "incist"? Dumb people don't even need to know how to spell these days, the computer does it for you. You see that funny red line under words when you type? That means it is SPELLED wrong!! And that means you fix it!
@@montinaladine3264 oh shut up, you absolute melt. You sound old and outdated, much as your use of the word computer. I understood perfectly what they had to say and it was also factual.
Yeah i thought of Frederick when i saw the title. So sad for everyone involved in both cases. Sincere condolences to all who have been affected by loss of loved ones in all cases. Rest in peace all who lost thier lives. 🙏
The pilot knew Williamtown was there. He knew it was restricted airspace. He knew his instruments were faulty. He knew flying the inland route would be dangerous. He made the decision not to hold. Don't blame the RAAF for his bad decisions.
I am wondering why haven't there been a full sweep of this area with some high end detecting equipment? There is equipment that is capable of broad search parameters in the market. Even LiDAR would be able to be used for such a search. God help them, someone start up a go fund me account and get this damn plane found. There are families grieving for their return home.
@@anonincognito617 Exactly what I'm thinking. It seems as if the pilot was protecting his pride? As if he didn't wanna get a 'strike' on his record or something? And I get it! But in a situation like that you gotta put your pride aside.
@@frankferriolo9212 Would have all been avoided if he included the fact that his primary instruments were kaput when he initially requested clearance, would have put him straight through. Doubly so if he declared an emergency. If I were to guess, rather than an airspace infringement, he was more worried about the fact that he willingly departed with an unserviceable instrument panel into rapidly deteriorating visual conditions coming to light. Avoidable, but doesn't make it any less sad.
Have a look at 19:36 on the video - there looks like some debris there bottom of screen and some more further up. I sent a message to this spotlight team let them know i saw this.
What kind of sensory research and recording is going on in these anomalous areas? Magnetic interference has to be at least partially responsible, which could be recorded, monitored and evaluated. Can solar flares cause magnetic fluctuations which could cause a plane to crash? So many questions that need years of research to scratch the surface.
Had the military refused the pilot then I could understand it but they hadn't. The pilot new the score with flight planning. Had he stopped over night repaired the aircraft then carried on in day light and better weather .
You can operate without a vacuum pump. Air traffic control should have guided them down. And opened air space or even had the military fly out and guide them down.
My dear friend tragically past away two days ago and I can’t stop watching tragic deaths on TH-cam. Morbid I know, I am so distraught. She left two young children. If you see this please hug your loved ones, enjoy the little things and pray for my friend and her family. I would greatly appreciate it!
I am sorry for your. The only thing is time for you to heal
I’m sorry for your loss. Did your friend die to COVID? I lost my precious aunt and she died alone in hospital.
May your friend rest in peace
When they were reviewing the audio and the older man became emotional it made me cry. Such a sad story
Frederick Valentich who was a pilot is still missing from 1978 in another unsolved flight mystery between Melbourne and King Island Australia.
Even more mysterious and puzzling if you look into this case.
Can you share a summary? Thanks
@@sperera5916 Very young man on the way to King Island radioed that he was being followed by a strange craft which was above him and described it to the control tower. The tower couldn't see anything on radar. His last transmission was saying the object was coming on top of him and you could hear a metallic like sound. He vanished and his plane.
Witnesses say there was a unusual object in the sky close to him and radar towers including RAaf had tracked an unidentified object around the area.
There's a lot to the case which is fascinating. Cheers
@@atomikmaster1 thanks a lot for taking time for writing.
@@sperera5916 That was a very interesting but creepy case. I wonder if there's any documentaries about it.
It was front page headlines, and never been found, no wreckage no oil slicks.. nothing..
I wonder if lidar technology could help find this missing plane. They’ve used this technology to map ancient ruins under the Amazon rainforest.
I was wondering the same thing.
That would be a good idea
@@britishcolumbiariders1538 something tells me that they don’t want to find it
Lidar won’t penetrate a thick forested canopy. Just hit the tree tops and bounce off
@@HK346-o4x Lidar is not affected by surface growth it's radar! It has been successfully used to map ruins in the amazon rain forest.
Flying an unserviceable aircraft together with a bad case of get-there-itis and a "she'll be right" attitude is a recipe for disaster ... which is exactly what happened. Bad decision after bad decision and his passengers paid the price of his recklessness with their lives.
Yep,, CFIT describes it succinctly.......
An experienced pilot should have been able to get out of that situation, pilots operating in PNG fly in much worse conditions over mountains in thunderstorms, without GPS you can still get a fix on your position using a sextant
This should never have happened
And to hear Mr Smith say " Nothing's been done about this incident" is shameful to those involved I mean the Authorities
Someone one day will find this plane as they do
AI and DI gone, no standby AI, no compass, 6000'msa and icing! The poor blokes never had a chance. RIP.
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Only if there was a politician on board ..this wouldn't be a mystery..
You say that and Australia lost a politician at sea and we still don't know what happened, or even found his body.
@@lachlanlandreth9069 yes and that is sad. Its like looking for a needle in an ocean.
Lol right tell that to the families of Hale Boggs and Nick Begich.
Not true. Politician lost in a plane in the Alaskan wilderness 1972 flying from Anchorage to Juneau Alaska.
Many types of people could be assassinated for unknown reasons or motives. Corrupt police or good police knowing too much about powerful crime organizations. Anything like that.
Maybe it's because I'm 50 years old this July but I can't stop crying about them and their families. Jesus Christ all mighty! My deepest condolences and my prayers and thoughts to the victims. From the antipodes Oeiras PORTUGAL
Only use the Lords name in prayer and worship of Him.
@@earnold1896 Relax jesus police, he'll be okay
Jose you are clearly a humanitarian. I know lad, this world can fill us all with despair. You are not alone. Don’t take it too hard, the almighty works in mysterious ways.🕊🏴👍
I've never been to Australia. But that lady said a huge SNOW cloud. It doesn't SNOW in Australia does it. I researched it online IT DOES SNOW IN SOME PARTS OF AUSTRALIA. Learn something new everyday
In this part of Australia, especially in the alpine regions of Victoria and New South Wales nearer the east coast (as opposed to the desert inland, Northern Territory and Western Australia, for example), it can snow heavily.
It also snows north of alpine regions and the area in this video is Mid North Coast New South Wales 3.5 hours north of Sydney. In Winter it can snow heavily - it is part of The Great Dividing Range.
Yep it’s either hot or freezing no much in between 😂😂😂
Yes it snows in the Barrington tops
@beekeeper7535 this is the biripi nation taree belongs to the aboriginal people my home
That’s so sad 😭. Lucky the love child was born. Seing his reaction to seeing the footage of his dad was pricless. Breaks my heart ❤️
That's an interesting profile pic! lol I just watch your video on a wasp very interesting!
Seeing her reaction to finally be able to share the man that she loved with his child, is what got me. It made my eyes leak. 😪
Ditto I teared up can you imagine how he felt 🥺 I found it odd though that no one had shown them the last video of them until now. It would be the first thing I'd want to share with the families.
@@seren9613 That is such a delicate subject. What is comfort for one might be torture for another.
@@firewaterbydesign true but they didn't know the video existed. I'd have given them the option, that is all. I'm not condemning anyone I just found it strange.
Not the RAAF fault.
Pilot knew he had electrical issues and he was tired.
Never should have taken off.
Sure but in an emergency situation air traffic control should allow a plane the most direct path for them to get to land as fast as possible.
Oh look, another TH-cam expert.
How do you know he was tired. You dont know that, because someone said he looked tired thats not fact.
Don’t forget the young bloke who disappeared flying south over Bass Straight back in the 70’s i think, maybe early 80’s. Radio transmition records clearly reveal a UFO encounter that is very freaky and pilot and plane simply vanished. Flying small plane from Melbourne, Victoria to Flinders Island, Tasmania i think.
That happened in Michigan too. Over lake superior. From my understanding the jet was never found. It was scrambled to chase an object in the sky. It made contact and was loss. Strange.
Frederick Valentich was the pilot's name. Disappeared over Bass Strait
This plane crashed due to pilot error before taking off, weather conditions brought the misfortune of added pressure by limited route alternatives and the plane did not "vanish" it crashed in dense jungle making it impossible to see from the air.
@@r.martin3494 yes ok, we are talking about the disappearance of Frederick Valentich (thanks pslpom) and his plane that vanished in very weird way. Check out his story, you will be surprised.
Yeah but, this pilot flew that plane with faulty instruments, and came into bad weather, completely different circumstances.
Anybody else remember the Frederic Valentic case on Unsolved Mysteries? Took off from Morrabbin airport in a small aircraft. Spotted a UFO and then vanished.
Yes, it happened when I was a kid. Remains unsolved to this day.
What’s the mystery here? They were flying over mountains, and at night, which means virtually no visual reference to the ground. Whether they were IFR or VFR, I think you can put two and two together and assume CFIT into the mountains. And given the “unreachable terrain” (in this video’s own words) nobody’s stumbled across the wreckage.
Add instrument failure or partial instrument failure -- referring to the pilot reporting vacuum failure.
No mystery, no devil involved.
@@alanstevens1296 Sad that the pilot ended up ruining so many people’s lives, many decades later. Kind of like Aeroperu 603, the instrument failure and no visual reference to the ground led to hundreds dying, except that this pilot did that voluntarily. Total death wish - RIP.
@@AV4Life
Depending on which instruments failed, it can become impossible to fly on instruments. When that happens in IMC you will buy the farm.
Pilot stated gyro out and he was experiencing icing , and severe turbulence suspect conditions sound like stall
@@kevinconnelly3662
Icing + instrument failure + IMC is a lethal combination.
Should have declared an emergency immediately the instrument failures started and flown back to and along the coast regardless, especially in weather like that. Pilot at fault.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Absolutely 100%
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If those people are died I just want to say your families love you and miss you. May you all Rest In Peace
The comment at 1:40... ‘It’s the only Australian civil aviation incident that’s never been solved.’ Is that right? Well, what about Frederick Valentich who disappeared over Bass Strait, flying a Cessna 182L from Melbourne to King Island on the evening of 21st October 1978? He reported being buzzed by an object he said was ‘not a plane.’ Nothing was ever found of him or his plane. Whatever happened to Frederick Valentich, let us remember him, and may he Rest In Peace, wherever he is.
By that token I should be missing 4 times but I am just two good a Pilot.
@taslon7132
I think there was a female politician from TASMANIA who also went missing in a flight from Hobart. (along with the pilot)
Wow. That certainly is going to be hard to find since everything is probably grown over it by now. But one day in the future some adventurous person is going to find the missing plane
@Popeye 200 day top... what? Top that? Tops?
There's no way that it takes 200 days to drop troopers from a Heli a few times. GPS, drop some supplies, etc.
After 30 years, there's a snowball's chance in that very warm place that they'll find anything, right?
That whole area will be concrete and brick in another 100 years with the way population growth is happening. Population has nearly doubled just since that plane went down.
@@Thomas-xe3ce time to abandon the world
@Popeye dont bully her, please be more respectful
@@Thomas-xe3ce it's a national park, it's not going to become a concrete jungle. It's actual a part of Gondwana.
The only unsolved civilian aviation mystery that remains unsolved? Frederick Valentich would like a word with you.
Thinking the same thing. 👍🏻
We know what happened to Valentich, but some people don't like the truth.
He was abducted. Aircraft and all. America just admitted it's AATIP.
Advanced aerospace threat indetification program. And more people have been, and will continue to be snatched off of our planet for a long time to come. Our technology is primative. Good luck.
Literally my first utterance outloud.
I think there are others one was a Tiger Moth that went missing flying over Bass Strait to Tasmanian with an experienced pilot and female journalist or author passenger about thirty five years ago
@@hodaka1000 have not heard of that one!
RIP boys your loss won't be forgotten...
If the Williams Air Force Base just allowed him to land we wouldn't be watching this video.
Damn the RAAF !!
He should have just landed thats what i would of done
@@lovesallanimals9948
I wonder what would have happened if he did because it is a military base
These triangles throughout the world should be avoided. We can't identify what is going on but something is whether magnetic or something else.
That was a well put together episode, I can't imagine losing a loved one like that with nothing being done in the length of time. So glad I watched this!
Many searches have been conducted over the years. Sadly, finding MDX is even harder than finding the proverbial needle in a haystack. Little to nothing, save the fuselage, would be left. And if it buried on impact, it will be all but impossible to locate. If it’s ever located, it will most likely be by sheer accident.
There are so many things that compounded this tragedy and went towards the crash. I pray they find them one day and give the families and friends the closure they so desperately need. Rest in Peace gentlemen 🖤🙏😔
If I had the bucks, I would track with some experts, radar, sonar, new tech and give it a go.
This plane crashed due to pilot error before taking off, weather conditions brought the misfortune of added pressure and the plane did not "vanish" it crashed in dense jungle making it impossible to see from the air when camouflaged by falling green forest canopy possibly in an almost vertical crash by the end. It was a light aircraft not a small commercial jetliner and that's a big jungle, it's akin to searching for a person in a life vest - bobbing about in deep waves at sea. We can only hope and pray for the relatives that remains are found one day or that they all survived but dispersed suffering amnesia and are happily living a new life nearby still in Australia. 🇦🇺 [By the way the "Devil's Triangle" the world knows of the most is of course off the coast of Bermuda, USA, not this one in Australia... ...Just to allay any reader confusion].
There's also a Melbourne in the USA
Also it says early on in the video this is Australia's only unsolved aviation mystery but ... Frederick Valentich was an Australian pilot who disappeared while on a 125-nautical-mile (232 km) training flight in a Cessna 182L light aircraft, registered VH-DSJ,[1] over Bass Strait on the evening of Saturday 21 October 1978. Reported UFO before vanishing so with everything the Pentagon/ navy confirmed recently I guess we should look into all possibilities for all incidents past and present.
@@nzgamelife323 Journalists are very loose with the truth at the best of times.
You have no idea what you are talking about and if you do you are lying.
Sincere condolences to the friends and loved ones of those who lost thier lives. Rest in peace to those who lost thier lives. 🙏
1981, that would be 40 yrs. RIP to those missing and best wishes for those who are greiving.
Oh I’m so sorry for ya all loss . Seeing those people cry is heart wrenching
My son was born in 1981 and he's 39 yrs old . So this show says it's early & obviously this must be an old show. Sounds like it just happened but was always interested in the Burmuda etc Triangles.
Yeah that's about right im same age roughly. Probably a old re-upload.
He says 33 years ago in the beginning, so 4-5 years.
Same year Wigan Casino closed down. Im no nutter but that seems like 'only last week'.
@@andreamarshall911 It happened in 1981 and they said 33 years ago so I'm assuming this is from 2014 😳
@@daginezho1637 I never did great at the maths😄
Our Cessna 210 went down near Coffs Harbour in 88-89... brilliant piloting saved our lives...
A pilot with "get-there-itus" making a series of bad decisions.
Definitely a case of get there itus
😳 five thousand gave me chills. I can literally feel the rawness as I listen. Also being a pilot myself meant this was difficult to hear and made the events on this day so long ago feel as real as if it was today.
My sincere condolences to the families 33 years on😔❤️
@@BP-rn3nl mate, you’re a snowflake.
I agree with this man everyone was so frightened, they knew what was coming. It makes me feel horrible in the pit of my stomach. God bless them all!
The military possess gear which scans the landscape surface eliminating the trees and vegetation. Why don't they use it ? A few days and the job's done .
Good point!
@Gort Newton Well maybe a couple of weeks then . It must be possible .
VFR into IMC with partial panel at night.. He didn't stand a chance.. RIP
Yeah. Makes you wonder how different aviation is now compared to 30 years ago. Or maybe in regards to this case, he’s just one bad pilot.
With an added case of getthereitis.....
in the sierras of california over 500 planes have gone down,many never found...same in Nevada,a state with endless mountain ranges over 500 planes missing never found--my friend found a missing jet fighter in northern nevada when they where on their dirt bikes in a remote area that had been missing for years...
19:35 what's that rectangular piece of metal(?) high-up in the bushes ? at the bottom of the screen under the loading bar
might just be water reflection.
I just spotted that and there are 2 separate white things in that section of the video if you look carefully! looks like they are about 20 to 30 yards apart..
Yes, I spotted that too. Just looking through the comments to see if anyone else noticed. Looks very much like the front of a plane to me. Also, it seems like there's a gap in the trees in a pretty straight line behind - maybe where the forest was disrupted as the plane down?
Hum, Auslo is probably right though. Maybe more likely to be water reflection.
@@akkawowa Yes I thought that about the apparent trail cut through too
My heart goes out to the families of those men. I truly hope that the wreckage is found so there can be closure.
As for unsolved plane mysteriesin aust. What about the bloke who went missing over bass straight in the mid/late 70s after seeing and reporting strange lights. They never found the wreckage or where he disappeared to from memory. He too vanished from radar and never reappeared, from memory
I don't remember them ever finding he or his plane. That was one of the most bizarre disappearances I'd ever heard of. 😔
Yeah your right, they never found that man.....or the plane wreckage either.
He told ATC that he thought a ufo was stalking him. Its an insane case!
@@frankferriolo9212 I remember that case even though it was so long ago. The UAP stalking him before he disappeared always stuck in my head.
Vale Fred Valentich
@@frankferriolo9212 There is talk it was either a regular commercial flight that he thought was closer, or an RAAF flight .
Thanks for the interesting content 👍
So why hasn't someone contacted NASA and asked for an infared scan of the area?
Now, if they were looking for aliens...
No politicians or VIPs in board
Mike Hart, the air traffic control guy communicating with MDX , was briefly one of my instructors at Camden Aviation when I was doing my night rating in the late 90's as part of my cpl training
Definitely wasn't a pilot error, I would've jumped out of the plane if i lost so many controls in fraction of seconds. Its a governmental error that so many planes have to take the mountain route.
My sincere condolences...tearing eyes...i really hope someone finds the wreck & hopefully solves it....thank you for uploading it & love to know the update😣
More stories like this please👍👍 good job guys
The man who said NO should be dragged out of retirement dragged through an investigation then thrown in Jail.
no matter if he is not guilty of breaking a law?
Doesn't appear to be a mystery here. The pilot simply made too many bad decisions.
What are those 2 white objects in the jungle at 19:35 one of them looks square edged and another object further back about 25 yards..
When we realize that for decades hundreds of planes and boats as well as thousands of people have vanished without leaving the slightest trace, we can no longer speak of a 'phenomenon' but quite simply of intelligent kidnappings, in other words of abductions by a more advanced intelligence. We are not alone.
The best book I know relating to this 'phenomenon' is French and is entitled 'Disparitions Mystérieuses Le Cosmos Nous Observe' released in 1973 and written by Patrice Gaston.
Strangely, it has never been translated into any other language.
Thank you for posting it’s too sad ☹️ to watch till the end of video I am stared to cry .Rip to all victims who lost their young life’s tragic and sad in same time ☹️☹️☹️
Humans are not Invincible ...
We should try to be smart, but also must know our limits! This is so terrible to even listen....
RIP 💕
Absolutely!
Sad , this happend and till this day no one found them, i wonder if the use of drones help.
Friends are still emotional after so many years. What a mistery.
" critical component on the plane that allows you to fly at night " and the guy wants to blame the airport on the coast for making the guy delay...he had the option to turn back...did he not...nobody forced him onward...why pilot not have GYRO issued resolved before taking off.
He reports flying over Taree which has the capability for him to land. I've often wondered why they didn't turn him back to here (Taree). It is a bizarre series of events that lead to a terrible tragedy. He never should have attempted to fly down once the Gyros etc weren't functioning. But we don't know what was going on re: his passengers. May they all rest in peace. 🙏😔
I'm not an aviator but I believe taking unnecessary risks when flying is often caused by "get homeitis".
@@seren9613 He never declared an official emergency. So they let him push on. This accident has helped train ATC in giving more options to the pilot and escalating an issue even if the pilot does not declare it. Pilots are also more likely to divert and declare an emergency. "Don't be a Hero". "Better to explain why you canceled the flight then for people to try to find out why you didn't"
@@lachlanlandreth9069 Thanks so much for explaining it to me. I didn't realise this case changed things I'm not an expert or a pilot. It's something I wondered about is all.
Im from Australia first time ive heard this story but by gee to hear pilot was scary n heart breaking
How is this the military's fault at all? A pilot with 3,500 hours should know about the restricted airspace, weather and make sure all your instruments are working with preflight checks. The entire cause of this is pilot error. RIP
exactly my thoughts
agreed!
Based on the (limited) flying I've done...
1 - Always, always get the weather report for your planned flight path. And *never* fly a small private plane unless the weather is perfect.
2 - Never fly instrument when your instruments are not working
3 - Never fly into bad weather (especially) in a single-engine piston airplane which cannot fly above a storm
4 - Never fly tired, especially when you just have about 2,500 hours (and only 27 hours on that airplane type)
All told, unfortunately the pilot's fault (100%).
_Also, discovering the plane is extremely difficult in such terrain, the famous aviator Steve Fossett crashed his plane in the Sierra Nevada mountains (which does not have dense vegetation) and a gigantic search effort still did not find his plane. It was found by accident by a hiker much later_
The Plane should have been over Singleton but it was 58 km off course over Barrington Tops .... faulty instruments, should not have been flying blind. Sad but avoidable ....
What about Fredric Valentich, vanished October 1978 over Bass straight??????🤔🇦🇺💥
Yeah i often think about Frederick and his mum and dad. 🙏
Also Barrington has a weather system of its own
Did y’all hear when he said his compass was spinning like crazy!!! What if they went through a worm hole or something.. only time when A compass does that Is when the earths magnetic field gets disrupted!!!
This really hurt my heart to watch I can't stop sobbing
😪
At this point we do not need to point fingers at who was at fault.
They were all somewhat of daredevils!
We need to truly think about the beautiful lives that are not with us.
Rest in Peace
🍃🕊🍃
Sending condolences and Prayers.
From,
Katrinka
San Francisco Bay Area
Thankyou for your comments much appreciated
Hahaha, its funny, in the australian accent, how everything is ‘just a little problem’. Just to compound, ‘we are effed’ 😂😂
Pilot....."This would be a good time to crack a tinny" 🤣
And why can’t it be a circle or a rectangle? Lol. It’s all bait.
Hahaha. 👍👍
So sad. Watch Riddle of the Stinson. Australian move, fantastic.
Australia's biggest aviation mystery ??? 6 Aussies were on MH370, Australia participated in the biggest and one of the most exensive aviation searches ever, and they have no idea when or why the plane went down. In this incident, they have MAYDAY recording.
This an old story, MH370 hadn’t happened yet.
I would love to find this. My dad went missing on the sea and theres no way my feet can reach under the sea..but this is a land more hope to fined them.
Very sorry for your loss Richard.❤️🇭🇲
I'm sorry for your loss mate.
Sorry 😢 for your loss Richard
Sorry for ya loss bro.
That plane should never have been in the air, at night time, with broken instruments, in near zero visibility, in stormy conditions. What the hell was the pilot thinking? That was a very old, crumbling plane, to make matters much worse. Makes no sense at all.
Yesh Prabhu, Bushkill, Pennsylvania
Hi. At 19:35 on the video when your camera moved over the mountains, i am sure i spot what looks like a white wing of an aircraft. At the bottom of the screen. ?? I am from South- Africa. Would love to see the family get closure and find the aircraft.
It's a stream, I checked it just now. It continues on if you pause it, you'll see it.
@@LordVikingLive thank you for checking.. I was hoping it would be the plane.
@@estiejonker3872 Well, since there is nobody searching for them and the plane, at least you tried. I would suggest people to try to use Google Earth and search there? But it is a jungle, very hard. They should have checked it with a scanning for metal from a helicopter. They can scan the ocean, so why not the jungle?
@@LordVikingLive If regular air searches didn't find it in the days after the crash, I doubt it will show up on Google maps.
@@LordVikingLive Ok,where is MH370?
Fascinating but definitely NOT the last unsolved aviation mystery. We still have Fred Valencia in Bass Strait and the Merimbula businessman who disappeared near Mumbulla mountain, Bega NSW. ☕️🦘
Is there a part two to this? Or have they been found yet?
I think this was made in about 2014.
Still not found
this seems like pilot error to me. if you have to get clearance and that clearance can be denied then the pilor should not have assumed clearance would be granted.
2013 I was standing in my backyard 3am having a smoke with my gf we watched a plane fly from Melbourne to Sydney direction as 3 solid
lights/UFO come from 3 seperate directions all crossed paths at the same time , the same time the crossed paths was exactly the same time the 3 crossed paths with the flashing light/plane then they kept going the direction they wer traveling but the plane/flashing lights the 3 UFO crossed paths on disappeared we kept waiting to hear about a flight that didn’t not show up but we never did we watched the 3 UFO solid lights travel the directions they wer already headed but the flashing light we did not see again in the sky just vanished and if anyone knows what a plane looks like at night you can see the light flashing until it’s out of sight these things crossed paths with the plane they kept going the plane DID NOT
Well you know about Frederick Valentich too but I guess in this case it was an iffy plane and impatient pilot.
I would have just flown over the restricted area and to hell with such nonsense.
@ 19:36 as the drone goes up, there appears to be something metallic on the ground...
Check out 19:34 what is the white in there
Yeah that was my thought too.
Might be his car though, looks like it's in a bit of a clearing that could be a trail or road.
Imagine if this one comment just solved it
There are scattered homesteads and sheds and forestry buildings etc all through that area. Could be anything.
@@tonysuda9066 its brighten when the voice over start to say "imagine.
We got a small plane missing somewhere in Alaska that's got some important government people on it missing for 30 some years and then we got another bigger type playing missing somewhere around lake Erie with about 50 people on it been missing for 50 years
20:27 What is that?
What is what
What about Fred Valentich who disappeared over Bass Strait in '78 ?
typical coimpounding sequence of events that lots of experienced pilots incist in going a head when they should not. Yea, certain death is sure. Sad to see what happened. RIP
What's "coimpounding"? What's "incist"? Dumb people don't even need to know how to spell these days, the computer does it for you. You see that funny red line under words when you type? That means it is SPELLED wrong!! And that means you fix it!
@@montinaladine3264 oh shut up, you absolute melt. You sound old and outdated, much as your use of the word computer. I understood perfectly what they had to say and it was also factual.
Not the only mystery. What about the Valentich disappearance over Port Phillip bay.
Yeah i thought of Frederick when i saw the title. So sad for everyone involved in both cases. Sincere condolences to all who have been affected by loss of loved ones in all cases.
Rest in peace all who lost thier lives. 🙏
The pilot knew Williamtown was there. He knew it was restricted airspace. He knew his instruments were faulty. He knew flying the inland route would be dangerous. He made the decision not to hold. Don't blame the RAAF for his bad decisions.
I am wondering why haven't there been a full sweep of this area with some high end detecting equipment?
There is equipment that is capable of broad search parameters in the market. Even LiDAR would be able to be used for such a search.
God help them, someone start up a go fund me account and get this damn plane found. There are families grieving for their return home.
I would've flown into the military air space. What can they do? Warn you? Great! That's when you explain.
Exactly.
Declare an emergency and get down safely.
@@anonincognito617 Exactly what I'm thinking.
It seems as if the pilot was protecting his pride? As if he didn't wanna get a 'strike' on his record or something? And I get it! But in a situation like that you gotta put your pride aside.
@@frankferriolo9212 Would have all been avoided if he included the fact that his primary instruments were kaput when he initially requested clearance, would have put him straight through. Doubly so if he declared an emergency. If I were to guess, rather than an airspace infringement, he was more worried about the fact that he willingly departed with an unserviceable instrument panel into rapidly deteriorating visual conditions coming to light.
Avoidable, but doesn't make it any less sad.
Yes! Sometimes it's much easier to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission. Particularly in this case.
VH-WCP is the Cessna 210 used in this video with a VH-MDX sticker over the top.
I noticed that also Piper driver here NSW
So very sad. Thank you for sharing. We hope they can bring closure by finding the plane. Very sad situation.
What’s with the weird “5 men” and their wives intro?!? I’m figuring it was equally tragic for all involved...
It's a six seat aircraft so I'm curious how the 5 men and their wives all fit.
That confused me too! It was just 5 blokes on the plane, not their family or wives.
I think they wanted to work in the 55 code somehow along with the "33" years later.
There’s something shiny white in the woods on left side of screen at 19:36.
Have a look at 19:36 on the video - there looks like some debris there bottom of screen and some more further up. I sent a message to this spotlight team let them know i saw this.
That’s their vehicle on the road
clearly pilot error!
Those men were awfully silent.
Has LiiDAR been used to scan the area?
Nothing mysterious, an impatient pilot that didn't want to wait, flying an aircraft with mechanical issues.
What's that on the ground at 19.36
The CSIRO along with other gov. contractors perform intense weather modification across Australia especially the east coast.
What kind of sensory research and recording is going on in these anomalous areas? Magnetic interference has to be at least partially responsible, which could be recorded, monitored and evaluated. Can solar flares cause magnetic fluctuations which could cause a plane to crash? So many questions that need years of research to scratch the surface.
It crashed into a mountain then got buried in an avalanche of mud and rock maybe?
It highlights how easily things do turn and quite often with sad outcomes.
And can reach anyone.. tech or money regardless
Had the military refused the pilot then I could understand it but they hadn't. The pilot new the score with flight planning. Had he stopped over night repaired the aircraft then carried on in day light and better weather .
True, the pilot would have also been pressured by the passengers to get home.
You can operate without a vacuum pump. Air traffic control should have guided them down. And opened air space or even had the military fly out and guide them down.
That is a rule that should be broken it’s outrageous to think that 30 years has gone by. Still the RAAF. Won’t let planes fly in there air space