Call ahead if you can and make sure it’s okay to use their 240, or ask when you arrive. Find a good spot (shade during summer, sun during winter), plug in. Wait. Ride. Repeat!
I just looked where I live in the Seattle area within a 18 mile radius. 37 level 2 chargers most of which are single units with 3-5kw. 64 level 3 chargers, most with 4 or more units, and some even have a level 2 as well. My grocery stores have level 2 chargers for free (3kw usually). Charging infra is vastly improving. Down the Pacific Coast Highway from WA to CA there are DC fast chargers every 50-75 miles now.
That’s awesome! Most of the high speed corridors have them now - it’s the areas between those corridors that are lacking DCFC (at least here on the east coast). One can pretty much get around the whole country, sans for a few places in the Midwest. The prevalence of L2 and L3 is why I continue to ride LiveWire - now I get the best of both worlds
And I thought germany didn't have enough Type-2 chargers. My Alrendo came with a 1,3kw charger to plug into a regular outlet. So far I didn't need the other plug types so far.
Question for you I’ve got the Tesla adapter, but how do I activate the Tesla charging unit? Is there an app do I need to register? I’ve never used a Tesla system before.?
For the Tesla destination chargers, there isn't anything you need to do other than ensure the Tesla charger is powered, plug in the Tesla Tap, wait a few seconds, then plug it into the bike.
What is the difference between the Tesla Tap and all the cheaper units I have seen listed online that claim to adapt to tesla ?? Also I have heard a lot of times from your videos, as well as others, that the included livewire chargers trip GFI outlets. Why is that and how come it doesn't happen all the time? For some reason in my house there is one single outlet in the two car garage, its a GFI outlet and its where I have been charging my Del Mar. It has not tripped it yet, so that got me wondering why sometimes they will work and other times they will not. I heard you say before that its because of some AC filter or something on the bikes, but I have not been able to find anything anywhere about said system.
Well I can't really speak on all the other units on Amazon, but the TeslaTap is the OG small, compact unit. There have always been adapters, however TeslaTap was the first to make it compact and of good quality. I've used them for years - never failed. So the AC filter trips 15amp GCFI because it has a quick 16amp surge, but then drops back down to 12-15amps for regular charging. The filter is checking the 'quality' of the energy source to make sure it's good enough to charge 10-12 hours. The ELW filter is on the right side under the tank faring, and can be bypassed with the right wiring hookup. I assume the Del Mar has the same AC filter, as it's a requirement to be sold in California - therefore all models have the AC filter. I haven't checked to see where it is on the Del Mar, so for now just using the Webasto Go to help with charging in the wild. The Webasto unit seems to help a little, as it is programed to start off at 12amps, and then goes up, so it won't trip 15amp GCFI outlets. I'm still testing this out on outlets I know the stock EVSE charger trips, just haven't gotten to it yet.
The Webasto Go charger looks identical to the charger that came with my Polaris Kinetic. Speaks well of Webasto that a big OEM is using it under their brand.
I charge to 100% only when I need the range, most times I stay at 80%. I have level 2 charging in my studio, so only takes 20-30mins to top it off to 100% if I need it
I guess the S2 Del Mar is not a long-distance bike, but I think it is a dead end to making EV bikes without DCFC ability. All EV bikes should have a 16A Level 1 charger (3.6 kW), adjustable amps (6-8-10), and a Level 3 DCFC. Maybe Level 2 chargers are more common in some places, but it's not for the future when many DCFCs are popping up everywhere.
Well, like with anything - distance traveled is relative to fuel/charging infrastructure. I've not yet tried a long distance trip with the S2, but will soon. I think each has its place, and most places just don't seem to utilize them properly. I don't believe DCFC belongs in built up areas and cities, they belong in the vast spaces between cities and built up areas. Just don't see enough of that yet, at least in my region.
The advantage for level 3 is highway travel. A city bike doesn't really need it and will kill the battery quicker on the highway so you'd rather be on the back roads where the level 2s are anyway. When ebike range inevitably improves it would make sense to go with level 3.
I currently use a Tesla Gen 1 UMC cable with the Tesla Tap on my Zero SR/S for all the reasons you mentioned. Unfortunately the Gen 2s only go up to 32A so I like the Grizzl-E Mini as a portable charging unit. th-cam.com/video/BMdobWf9ytQ/w-d-xo.html
Question for you I’ve got the Tesla adapter, but how do I activate the Tesla charging unit? Is there an app do I need to register? I’ve never used a Tesla system before.?
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Talk us through the process of charging at Camp Grounds. Thank you
Call ahead if you can and make sure it’s okay to use their 240, or ask when you arrive. Find a good spot (shade during summer, sun during winter), plug in. Wait. Ride. Repeat!
I just looked where I live in the Seattle area within a 18 mile radius. 37 level 2 chargers most of which are single units with 3-5kw. 64 level 3 chargers, most with 4 or more units, and some even have a level 2 as well.
My grocery stores have level 2 chargers for free (3kw usually). Charging infra is vastly improving. Down the Pacific Coast Highway from WA to CA there are DC fast chargers every 50-75 miles now.
That’s awesome! Most of the high speed corridors have them now - it’s the areas between those corridors that are lacking DCFC (at least here on the east coast). One can pretty much get around the whole country, sans for a few places in the Midwest. The prevalence of L2 and L3 is why I continue to ride LiveWire - now I get the best of both worlds
Keep it up, Ben! I love your content!
Thanks! 🤜🏻🤛🏻
Nice video. Glad you got your hands on a tesla tap mini.
Me too!
Sheesh, you can use Tesla destination chargers? That rocks!! Lots of locations.
Pretty sweet, eh?!
And I thought germany didn't have enough Type-2 chargers. My Alrendo came with a 1,3kw charger to plug into a regular outlet. So far I didn't need the other plug types so far.
The Del Mar comes with a dual voltage EVSE up to 16A
Question for you I’ve got the Tesla adapter, but how do I activate the Tesla charging unit? Is there an app do I need to register? I’ve never used a Tesla system before.?
For the Tesla destination chargers, there isn't anything you need to do other than ensure the Tesla charger is powered, plug in the Tesla Tap, wait a few seconds, then plug it into the bike.
What is the difference between the Tesla Tap and all the cheaper units I have seen listed online that claim to adapt to tesla ?? Also I have heard a lot of times from your videos, as well as others, that the included livewire chargers trip GFI outlets. Why is that and how come it doesn't happen all the time? For some reason in my house there is one single outlet in the two car garage, its a GFI outlet and its where I have been charging my Del Mar. It has not tripped it yet, so that got me wondering why sometimes they will work and other times they will not. I heard you say before that its because of some AC filter or something on the bikes, but I have not been able to find anything anywhere about said system.
Well I can't really speak on all the other units on Amazon, but the TeslaTap is the OG small, compact unit. There have always been adapters, however TeslaTap was the first to make it compact and of good quality. I've used them for years - never failed. So the AC filter trips 15amp GCFI because it has a quick 16amp surge, but then drops back down to 12-15amps for regular charging. The filter is checking the 'quality' of the energy source to make sure it's good enough to charge 10-12 hours. The ELW filter is on the right side under the tank faring, and can be bypassed with the right wiring hookup. I assume the Del Mar has the same AC filter, as it's a requirement to be sold in California - therefore all models have the AC filter. I haven't checked to see where it is on the Del Mar, so for now just using the Webasto Go to help with charging in the wild. The Webasto unit seems to help a little, as it is programed to start off at 12amps, and then goes up, so it won't trip 15amp GCFI outlets. I'm still testing this out on outlets I know the stock EVSE charger trips, just haven't gotten to it yet.
Great tips !
🤜🏻🤛🏻
The Webasto Go charger looks identical to the charger that came with my Polaris Kinetic. Speaks well of Webasto that a big OEM is using it under their brand.
Webasto also makes the LW1 EVSE
Also, looks just like the Ford charger that came with the mach e
@@Bigfrank113 yep, webasto is carried by the bigger manufacturers
My Kia charger looks identical. Even says Webasto on it.
I have a question for you Ben. Are you charging the Del Mar to 100% all the time? (edited) I mean when you charge say overnight.
I charge to 100% only when I need the range, most times I stay at 80%. I have level 2 charging in my studio, so only takes 20-30mins to top it off to 100% if I need it
My F150 Lightning came with a Ford branded Webasto charger. We saw 5.1kw charging a Del Mar from the Lightning using that charger.
Yep, saw the post and it got me thinking about charging options
I have the same charger and only got 1.3kw trying the same thing using a Zero and KIA EV6.
@@churchofmarcus A KIA EV6 doesn't have a 220V outlet.
@@detansinn9882 I didn't realize the F150 did. That's cool! Makes sense on a truck. You can run some serious stuff like a welder.
@@detansinn9882 I didn't realize the Lightning did. It makes sense on a truck and lets you run some serious stuff like a welder.
Can’t go 50’ here in Los Angeles without tripping over a L2 charger, but then I have a LW1.
Yep! It’s the areas between the big charging corridors that need improving
Nice free miles!
In most places, even when you do have to pay, it isn’t much
I guess the S2 Del Mar is not a long-distance bike, but I think it is a dead end to making EV bikes without DCFC ability. All EV bikes should have a 16A Level 1 charger (3.6 kW), adjustable amps (6-8-10), and a Level 3 DCFC. Maybe Level 2 chargers are more common in some places, but it's not for the future when many DCFCs are popping up everywhere.
Well, like with anything - distance traveled is relative to fuel/charging infrastructure. I've not yet tried a long distance trip with the S2, but will soon. I think each has its place, and most places just don't seem to utilize them properly. I don't believe DCFC belongs in built up areas and cities, they belong in the vast spaces between cities and built up areas. Just don't see enough of that yet, at least in my region.
The advantage for level 3 is highway travel. A city bike doesn't really need it and will kill the battery quicker on the highway so you'd rather be on the back roads where the level 2s are anyway. When ebike range inevitably improves it would make sense to go with level 3.
What are you carrying that in? I don't see a tank bag.
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I currently use a Tesla Gen 1 UMC cable with the Tesla Tap on my Zero SR/S for all the reasons you mentioned. Unfortunately the Gen 2s only go up to 32A so I like the Grizzl-E Mini as a portable charging unit. th-cam.com/video/BMdobWf9ytQ/w-d-xo.html
Nice!
Oh, so you still counting the VLOGs...
Yep! Needed to stop for a bit to move our stuff out our condo and finish the basement
Question for you I’ve got the Tesla adapter, but how do I activate the Tesla charging unit? Is there an app do I need to register? I’ve never used a Tesla system before.?
A lot will just start when you plug them in. You can also use the Tesla app.