Thanks for the tool review on IGaging. Now we know their capabilities. A word of caution: one should never play with compressed air. It can penetrate the skin and cause an air embolism (air bubbles in the bloodstream) which can be fatal if it reaches the heart, lungs or brain. Fatalities have occurred from playing with air hoses.
Woodworking has got little OCD about accuracy, I mean I understand machinist in metal but I mean I don't build SpaceX woodworking projects, maybe you should do a video with making something with big box stores tools vs your high end stuff to see the difference
I think that’s a great idea. I’m going to add that to my list of video ideas. I totally agree with you. 1/2 the time I’m using referential measurements anyway! Thanks for watching wealro!
Agreed 100%. As long as you are using the SAME tool who cares? How many thing this pr most woodworking videos are precise enough that a 64th of an inch matters? I like the Videos, but Burt is ANNOYING and unnecessary. Cheers
@@FlynndoggWoodwork I'm inclined to agree. There is more than enough valuable content in your videos to keep me around without his annoying presence. Just my 2 cents of course, your channel your rules. If he gets too annoying I'll just unsubscribe, but we both lose if that happens. BTW: you must have had an impact: the layout squares are out of stock on the Big A!
I have the I gauging straight edges there is a 12…24….and 48 inch they also measure in 64th’s …super heavy duty…made of stainless steel and come with a sheath …I got them through Rockler’s in St. Louis
Oh nice! I may have to check those out! Especially the 48 and 12". Thank you so much for sharing that, I'm going to have to scope those out in the near future. Thank you so much for watching Arthur!
Great video. I picked up on iGaging from Stumpy Nubs (I think). Anyway, I got the squares and have pretty much put the little red deleive back in the drawer. Love the squares and those magnets are really great. Got the layout set also. And I got the double square 4". Use them all every day and love the blue/white contrast. Learned more from you about their capabilities. Keep em coming!
Thanks so much flatlander! I really like those double squares the most. I have so many squares from doing this channel, but no double squares. I suspect they will be my go to now maybe even above my combination square! Thanks for sharing and watching!
I have all of the squares in this video, and my only complaint is with the double squares. They are extremely difficult to tighten and then loosen. Especially the 4", and they both rusted very quickly. And so you know, they sit in the same drawer as my 12" Stearrette which is older, not rusted, and far easier to lock and unlock. At some point, I'll be replacing the Igague with Stearrettes
Thank you so much for sharing Kperellie, love hearing about the tools I take a look at from people who have had them for a few years. Thank you so much for sharing with all of us!
I bought the set of 3 iGaging machinists squares for equipment setup. Very nice tools. Very good price. Very happy about that. Definitely willing to look at other iGaging products, particularly the double squares.
That's great to hear thomas, I have yet to hear anyone complain about the tools yet. I'm very pleased with the three I purchased, and won't hesitate to pull the trigger on this brand in the future. Thanks so much for sharing and watching!
I check every single square when I get them. Not even the mighty Woodpecker's escapes the squareness test. Most of those looked pretty good. However, I'm pretty sure the lines made by the larger double square merged at about 2 inches. Two lines are clearly visible at the start, but the far end is a very thin single line. In addition there's a thick single line at about about half the length of the 4 inch parallel lines. I honestly don't trust any square with moving parts. I only use them for marking short lines at a set distance, or transferring measurements. For that task a regular Irwin is just fine.
If you noticed some variance, It was probably due to my camera angle or when my lead was breaking when I scribed my lines. I had some run off with the pencil lead that made it look like there was a tad bit of a variance. I agree with you on squares with moving parts. I will probably not use those too often to check for square but more likely use it to even out table tops etc. Great points and thanks as always for watching!
Two Thumbs up Flynndogg. You could do a whole series on "Not China" woodworking tools and please millions of woodworkers out here. The fact that iGauging is US is a big bonus!
The seventies were when the Japanese auto makers showed the US companies how a car should be made. The real damage started with NAFTA: I know first hand as I graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering shortly after it passed, and nobody in my class got jobs. That was the first of many terrible "free trade" treaties the US has signed that pretty much destroyed this country. You need a manufacturing base to succeed unless you are an oligarch that only cares about profit and not nation states. @@FlynndoggWoodwork
I'm not sure he will ever leave. I saw a sleeping back in my loft the other day. I think he's sleeping in the barn! :). Thanks for watching Thomschall! :)
A few years ago I installed an iGaging digital readout on my Grizzly 15" planer (purchased in early 90s) and it definately changed the whole setup and use process for the better. And it was relatively inexpensive.
Yeah, I use my imaging digital angle on every tablesaw I use. Mine, the shop I work in; both of them, and have used it on the drill press! It has improved my cuts on both the Powermatics at work and my Rockwell contractors saw! How else would I would know that the newer Powermatic shows 45 degrees, but is really 43.5! I have used it to set my miter saws, but it's just a bit too wonky. The manual angle guage is just a lot easier. Also forgot that the dig. Angle Guage has magnets and can just sit on the blade as I adjust that pesky crank under the top! Makes me happy!
Thank you so much for sharing this! I was astounded by the number of digital products that this company has. I'd like to dig into some of those in the future as well. Looks like a lot of calipers are available from them as well. Thanks for sharing and watching Kimnach!
Oh nice! I couldn't be more happy with mine. I honestly use them more than my woodpeckers now. Especially my double squares. Thanks so much for watching Dipperdap!
I’m a machinist so I work with dimensional tolerances in the ten thousandths of an inch. My $120 iGaging digital micrometer is just as accurate as the $250-$300 mitutoyo digital micrometers. The only difference is the battery life is a little bit shorter on my iGagings. They’re about 5years old now, still working like the day I unboxed them. Not a fanboy, just stating my experience with the brand.
Thanks so much for sharing this joe! Great to hear from someone who works with precision, and is satisfied with their calipers. I saw they have a few available and I was intrigued by them when I went to shoot this video. Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for watching!
Addendum: products are MADE IN CHINA... "American Brand" irrelevant if their products are made in china... this does not make them unique by any standard.
They do employ people here though. Not sure if it's still the case but they used to have their headquarters not far from Camp Pendleton when I was stationed there.
Ok Mr Flynndogg, great video. I love Bert but I do have to say he dropped the ball during the first segment with "delve" squares. When you said the iGagging has an extra inch or extra half inch in length. Im sure there was a missed joke in there somewhere. Well great video as usual, I enjoy your sense of humor. Thanks.
Your mind works very similar to mine. That actually crossed my mind. When I edit these videos, I always hit myself on my head when I see a missed opportunity. Sometimes there is just too many opportunities to fit in one vidoe. I don't want burt talking that much! :). A lot of people hate him already! :). Thanks as always for watching CorbyQ!
I have several IGaging products and I like them a lot. I live in Melbourne Australia and getting them here from America has been a breeze, apart from the shipping costs which has gone up a fair bit.
I love hearing from people on the other side of the globe! Thank you so much for watching. I love Melbourne. I went there a few years ago and really enjoyed it!
I appreciate that Bobhall-brooks! If you are looking for another great channel to start off on, check out steve ramsey as well. I started out with him when I first got started and he is GREAT!
I've been making high end custom cabinets for nearly 40 years. There are so many places to spend your money than $100 squares. But yes, $100 is better than $230 but not better than $10. If just starting out, spend your money on a cordless makita track saw, cordless drill /drivers, routers, saw stop table saw, etc. Then when you have extra money burning a hole in your pocket, get an e-bike or a drone or something that gives you the fiz nore than drawing a straight line
@@mzimmerman12 How about a Blue Spruce Dovetail saw? I sold some guitar effects pedals that were sitting in the closet-guitar is my other money pit-and I ordered one and some other hand tools. ( I can't believe how cheap premium hand tools are compared to effects pedals.) I know I can buy a cheap one and fix it up myself, I have/am, but I know I will enjoy using it every time I do. You nailed it with buying the SawStop, track saw, routers and drill/drivers before buying setup tools. I wonder how many new woodworkers realize what kind of rabbit hole they are getting into with routers? Good router bits can really add up fast, but once you get what you need, I think the results and ease of use justify the expense. I quit buying the cheap router bits when I read about a guy that had a cutter separate from the bit and lodge beside the bridge of his nose below an eyebrow.
I saw those set up blocks, look really nice. Also saw some pretty slick calipers from them as well. Might have to check some of their other tools out down the road. Thanks as always for watching Jim!
IN terms of features on the scare, such as the thickness guides, it’s more o remembering they are there to use them, rather than grab another tool. I beleive most people just grab this square and use it for 90 and 45 degree squares.
I bought a combination square set off of them about ten years ago. I didn't notice one of the ends of the 12 inch rule wasn't finished square which made the measurements skewed. When I contacted Igaging about it, they said people don't use the ruler anyway they just use it to see if things are square. I bought another brand. Life is too short for that kind of customer service.
That's good ot know Traewatkins. I saw those available when I was doing this video. They looked pretty nice. I might have to try those out! Thanks so much for watching!
@@FlynndoggWoodwork I still only break them out when I'm working alone and with new surfaces. The cheap aluminum squares still do all the dirty work and team work.
I was going to mention this if no one else did. It is difficult to find metric-only measuring products in the US, and iGaging makes them. I just bought the 100+150mm Double Square set.
Oh great more toys, errr tools I want, you know I have very little willpower, how will I be able to save for my jointer? Thanks again for a great Saturday video.
Haha! Thanks as always for watching Pat! Make sure you get an 8" one! I made the mistake of buying a 6" the first time I got my jointer (just a word of advice to someone who wasn't asking for it! :)
Appears the SS blades on the 4" / 7" squares are drilled for 1/8" layout but the aluminum blades are drilled for 1/16" layout......??? Either way great video and looking at adding these to my shop SOON. Thanks!
Thanks so much Chuck! Really appreciate you watching! I'll have to check on the 1/16" vs. the 1/8" I feel like the wholes are staggered for the 1/16th which makes it a little difficult to see on the video, but I need to double check.
@@FlynndoggWoodworkTry your first Amazon link. The wholes are staggered & very clearly only drilled every 1/8". Maybe this is early production and they've changed??
Thanks for the comparison. They look to quality tools.. Are they square on the inside too? I ask because that is where most people check face to edge squareness.
Great question, yes in my case. I did not see any variance on either side of the square. I should probably include that check as well on future videos. I do a lot of off camera testing especially when doing squares, I don't show it because it would bore people, but I should probably at least mention it. Thanks for bringing it up and thanks for watching Dave!
Ohhhhhh! That would be why my darn lead keeps breaking with those red tools. I think they were trying to make it easier to stick the lead in, but i'd rather have the lead support! Great point. Makes total sense!
Yeah, I've been pretty impressed with them so far. Looks like they have a lot of digital items too I'd like to check out! Thanks so much for watching thewoodjunki!
Love the video highlighting lower cost tools. Would you review router lifts? The price range is from $50 all way up to almost $500. I can't afford $350 for something I would not use that much but would like a as good but lower cost option.
This is a great idea elizabeth! I think I even got an email from you regarding this today. I'm definitely going to add this to my potential video list. I think it's a wonderful idea. Thanks so much fro suggesting it and thanks for watching!
Totally agree with you on that one John. I guess it made it a little better for me as I wasn't expecting the pencil when I got it. But definitely a cheapy! Thanks so much for watching!
I wish I had the same accurate 12” igaging square you had. I bought those squares a few years back, and my 12 inch was off by an 1/8 of an inch. I think the quality control is not as consistent as woodpeckers.
Thank you so much for sharing this You2datube! I wouldn't be surprised if the QC is not as tight as woodpeckers, I think they pride themselves on that. Although I have heard people getting out of square woodpeckers though. But they replace them immediately from what i hear. Sorry to hear you had that issue, but thanks for watching!
I have a double square and a combo square and both are accurate and work well. One thing I don’t like is the screw knob. The machining isn’t great and the knob often gets jammed up. Does anyone know the threading? I’d like to get a tap and make sure the threads are clean.
Intersting. You know after using my double square a bit from them that would have to be my only complaint too. Seems like they might be able to improve that a bit. I've never had any other double square than theirs however so maybe it's a common problem. Thanks so much for watching Pete!
Great to hear gtp1172. I suspect these will be around my shop for while as well. I'm learning they have all sorts of other tools available as well that people have had a good experience with as well. Might have to check those out too! Thanks so much for sharing and watching!
yea. i bought the 4 in double square. the ends of the measure is so ruff it looks like it was cut off with a hack saw. poorly machined. do you think i would trust them on any other tool. spend a tiny bit more and get some quality
Well, that is definitely not my experience. Their 4" double square is one of my favorites. I actually use it more than my woodpeckers. Thanks so much for watching!
Thanks so much for watching Edwin! Your username reminds me of my dad. He had a Case Tractor he had as a kid and always wanted to get another one in his retirement.
As a professional woodworker I’ll stick with starrett and woodpeckers. There’s a ton of companies using the American flag in advertising, yes they are American companies with no manufacturing facilities only storage and shipping warehouse.
Yes, I would agree with you. I think most global companies are that way these days. Even the big names like Ford, Chevy, Cattipillar etc. I'm just looking for affordable quality tools. Thanks so much for watching yellowdog!
@@FlynndoggWoodwork I get it man, I’m just a guy with an old soul who is grumpy about seeing the downhill momentum of the trade that saved my life and the country I loved .
Thank for the comparison but I do have a question. You don't address it in the video but in your title it seems that you are implying that igaging is a USA made product. Can you confirm this? I've read elsewhere that they are chinese. That's not necessarily a deal breaker if they are as good as they appear to be and that much better priced but I would appreciate an accurate representation.
Well you will notice the question in my title. I did some research on them and it appears that they are running their buisiness side of things from the US but manufacturing is done elsewhere. It is hard to tell what is exactly going on with them without having some inside knowledge. Great question and thanks for asking!
The only advantage woodpeckers has over the competition is marketing. Any cnc machined tools will be more accurate than anything required for woodworking. I'm glad to see that you didn't do the idiotic eyeball test for squareness. Holding any of these tools will cause more tolerance variation from thermal expansion than any factory spec.
I'm glad you brought this up Douglas. I was working on a project today and I measured everything out with some fancy precision layout tools and I realized, I'm the problem in the equation. I didn't cut on the line, or I had a board that wasn't exactly milled perfectly. There really is only so much precision we need in woodworking. Human error is always more than the tolerances of these tools!
Exactly. If you think about it nobody's fence is located parallel to the blade anywhere near the accuracy of the square. And the blade wobbles more than the tolerance of the square. It's just a game of specs that nobody can measure at home.@@FlynndoggWoodwork
That's great to hear FearsomeWarrior. I broke out the double square today for a project. Really like that 4 inch one! Thanks so much for watching as always!
Not an American tool brand. They are full imports. Their parent brand is IPIC, Igaging is their measurement tool side, InPrecision is industrial. ALL they do is import overseas stuff. Harbor Freight likely has more hand in design processes than these guys from all I can see digging deeper.
You seem to know a lot about them. Thanks for sharing. If you google them, it immediately says they are an american company. I encountered the same thing as it appears many of their items are made in china, but the parent compnay is american. Thus the question mark in the thumbnail! thanks for sharing and watching Matt
The company is American, that is why there is a question mark in the thumbnail. They are indeed an american company but they do a lot of their manufacturing in China. thanks for watching silveravnt!
Igaging is an American company based out of California. They manufacture out of china. That is why I put a question mark in the thumbnail. thanks for watching
The igaging website doesn't explain where these tools are manufactured. Is igaging just an importer? I think their country of origin should be included in your discussion when comparing their products to domestically manufactured tools.
Dogg, man..God Bless the USA. Almost all the Igaging stuff we have in the shop is made overseas. Did you just drop the "Woodpeckers" name? I'd be doing push-ups, but I still can't ( the meatballs are smoking through them, though.) But, Dogg, man...don't we have enough squares already. Let's stop avoiding the lathe. If those tools are made in 'Merica, why are the scribe holes in mm? Are you sure they're made in the USA? The box says, "Designed in by IGAGING in California; Made in China." Just saying...effing Burt.
Yep, They are made in china by an american company. I think that is unfortunately the way a lot of american companies are this day. Either way, I think it's a pretty decent quality tool. I'm glad at least the meatballs are able to get a few reps in. And I agree effing burt!
yea they are white labeled chinese tools. "Designed in America" is probably a stretch even since the parent company IPIC literally specialized in just importing precision tools. Their industrial tool side is InPrecision.
Why I am not subscribed already to this channel? Probably because you cost me money everytime I watch! Oh wait, maybe you're saving me money......I'm so confused.
They are an American company, but I think they do a lot of their manufacturing outside of the United States. That's why i put the question mark by American in the Thumbnail. Thanks for watching
You are sooooo right Richard. I use referential measurements most of the time, but there are great to start off with (if you can follow the line). I’m just like you, I’m always a little off!
These tools are nice and affordable but they are not made in USA. I just wanted to put that out, the title of this video is a bit misleading. I am not sure that they are actually a USA based company, they have an office in California and they sponsor the local basketball team but I couldn't find out much information on their about page in their website.
Yeah, that is definitely why I put the question mark after in the thumbnail. It's hard to tell where companies are located these days. I have no doubt they are probably registered as a California company, but I know they do a lot if not all of their manufacturing in China. Thanks so much for commenting and watching Abelesparza
I missed the question mark on the thumb nail. Was the question ever answered? I trying not to sounds sarcastic. I like the video overall, it was funny, especially your co-star...i-gag-ing😂😂😂
@@abelesparza6059 Haha! Thanks so much. I think the consensus from the comments and what I researched that it is a company registered in the US (designed etc.) and they manufacture in china probably to cut down on costs.
I saw those, when i was making this video. I may have to try those out someday. Looks like they make a few different types of those. Thanks for sharing and watching Richard!
Good to know, thanks for sharing. I got mine off of amazon. I would have just sent mine back to amazon if I encountered the same problems, but thanks for letting us know and thanks for watching!
I will use whatever is best and I can afford. I may have to go with the less expensive tool for one thing so you can afford an expensive one on the other. As long as they’re accurate and not garbage, perhaps I’ll buy the iGauge tool so they can afford the Cosman saw or Nielsen plane. China is not my enemy. My beloved America 🇺🇸 sure seems to be sometimes however.
@@timothyvanderschultzen9640 Haha! Totally get it. Woodworking videos tend to not do as well. Which is really frustrating sometimes. I'm making another on this week as well. stay tuned! :)
@@FlynndoggWoodwork Yeah, but I'm subbed with notification on. You'd figure I'd know when all your new vids come out. I enjoyed the build videos. Thanks!
@@timothyvanderschultzen9640 awesome! there will be more coming,. I spent all day working on a project build video today, should be out in a couple of weeks!
OMG, almost everythign I've gotten from Temu has been pretty low quality, I'm sure they are a cheap knock off. Thanks so much for watching mymobile5014
The trick is anything passive is mostly OK. Anything electronic is usually dodgy. I've got 2 speed squares from Temu for £1.20 and I love them!@@FlynndoggWoodwork
My local Rockler store has a lot of igaging products, and they're all made in China. Very disappointing! Of course, most Rockler tools are made in China, so that's to be expected from them
Yep, we are definitely backwards in that way. Would love to be on the metric system, more accurate and more intuitive in my opinion. Thanks for watching Russ!
:( well, the company is US based apparently, but I agree hard to find a lot of stuff manufactured entirely in US anymore. Thanks for watchign Doodlecoma!
You stated in your title that these were an American company. I did some checking and everything I found stated the following. The only thing American is the design everything is manufactured in China.
You are correct, it is an american company however. Manufactured in china, which is what you will find with most American companies, for cars, to almost everything these days. That ford, and that cummins engine that you have have the majority of their parts made overseas
@@FlynndoggWoodwork I get that but woodpecker and TSO products are both designed and manufactured in America. I’m new to your channel have you ever looked at the TSO products?
@@elktrip2000 no I haven't! I'm very interested in checking them out. I'm actually on their website right now. Looks like a lot of cool stuff. Thanks for mentioning them!
I WAS a fan of igaging tools. I own several of them and use them daily. I am no longer a fan. I purchased an Igaging layout square two months ago and it was not square. I called I gaging and the person that answered the phone could barely speak English. After several minutes of trying to understand what she was saying I finally understood that she was telling me to email them. After three emails, I've yet to receive a single email from them. Igaging tools migh t be a good deal until something goes wrong and then their customer service is diplorable.
No offense, but I would prefer that you kept your videos more serious... get rid of the comedy and fake mustaches... it is a waste of time and not amusing. You provide good info... don't' spoil it.
@@JesseJames-wj8ft It's an american company, they manufacture in china just like almost any larger company in the US. This is a global economy now, That's also why I put the questionmark in the thumbnail.
@@FlynndoggWoodwork Ok man I am not going to dogg you out, there are tools actually made in the USA by US companies, Klein tools, for example. Many Crescent tools as well. Yes I have heard of globalism, doesn't mean your only option is to buy chinese produced junk. When you see a title of "Exploring an Overlooked American Tool Brand", naturally, one thinks made in the USA. Anyone can be headquartered in the USA, might be chinese owned as well.I know tools my man, I am a 20 year journeyman union carpenter mostly into heavy construction with a side CNC business [Yes, CNC USA made] - I will go out of my way to buy USA, I wish everyone else would too.
Gee, what kind of archaic measurement system is used on these tools? Are they using cubits and furlongs? Ok, just a light poke from the rest of the world, where we sem to have 10 fingers, 10 toes, not 16 😉
I'm with you lohikarhu! I wish we were on metric as well. I find myself using it more and more. My metric standard tape measure is one of my favorite. I just pick the like that looks the closest to where i want it to be. Now Cubits... that might be interesting. heck they built the pyramids with those didn't they?!
Thanks for the tool review on IGaging. Now we know their capabilities. A word of caution: one should never play with compressed air. It can penetrate the skin and cause an air embolism (air bubbles in the bloodstream) which can be fatal if it reaches the heart, lungs or brain. Fatalities have occurred from playing with air hoses.
Oh man! I appreciate that share on the compressed air. I will have to be more careful with it in the future. Thanks for sharing Brice!
I’ve been using Stanley 16” and 6” combination squares. Works fine for me.
Yep those are great combination squares. I've got the 12 myself. That's actually the one I show in the video. Thanks for sharing and watching doc145
Woodworking has got little OCD about accuracy, I mean I understand machinist in metal but I mean I don't build SpaceX woodworking projects, maybe you should do a video with making something with big box stores tools vs your high end stuff to see the difference
I think that’s a great idea. I’m going to add that to my list of video ideas. I totally agree with you. 1/2 the time I’m using referential measurements anyway! Thanks for watching wealro!
Agreed 100%. As long as you are using the SAME tool who cares? How many thing this pr most woodworking videos are precise enough that a 64th of an inch matters? I like the Videos, but Burt is ANNOYING and unnecessary. Cheers
@@MarcusRefusius Burt says Boo, but Thanks for the feedback! :).
@@FlynndoggWoodwork I'm inclined to agree. There is more than enough valuable content in your videos to keep me around without his annoying presence. Just my 2 cents of course, your channel your rules. If he gets too annoying I'll just unsubscribe, but we both lose if that happens. BTW: you must have had an impact: the layout squares are out of stock on the Big A!
I have the I gauging straight edges there is a 12…24….and 48 inch they also measure in 64th’s …super heavy duty…made of stainless steel and come with a sheath …I got them through Rockler’s in St. Louis
Oh nice! I may have to check those out! Especially the 48 and 12". Thank you so much for sharing that, I'm going to have to scope those out in the near future. Thank you so much for watching Arthur!
Great video. I picked up on iGaging from Stumpy Nubs (I think). Anyway, I got the squares and have pretty much put the little red deleive back in the drawer. Love the squares and those magnets are really great. Got the layout set also. And I got the double square 4". Use them all every day and love the blue/white contrast. Learned more from you about their capabilities. Keep em coming!
Thanks so much flatlander! I really like those double squares the most. I have so many squares from doing this channel, but no double squares. I suspect they will be my go to now maybe even above my combination square! Thanks for sharing and watching!
I have all of the squares in this video, and my only complaint is with the double squares. They are extremely difficult to tighten and then loosen. Especially the 4", and they both rusted very quickly. And so you know, they sit in the same drawer as my 12" Stearrette which is older, not rusted, and far easier to lock and unlock. At some point, I'll be replacing the Igague with Stearrettes
Thank you so much for sharing Kperellie, love hearing about the tools I take a look at from people who have had them for a few years. Thank you so much for sharing with all of us!
I bought the set of 3 iGaging machinists squares for equipment setup. Very nice tools. Very good price. Very happy about that. Definitely willing to look at other iGaging products, particularly the double squares.
That's great to hear thomas, I have yet to hear anyone complain about the tools yet. I'm very pleased with the three I purchased, and won't hesitate to pull the trigger on this brand in the future. Thanks so much for sharing and watching!
I check every single square when I get them. Not even the mighty Woodpecker's escapes the squareness test. Most of those looked pretty good. However, I'm pretty sure the lines made by the larger double square merged at about 2 inches. Two lines are clearly visible at the start, but the far end is a very thin single line. In addition there's a thick single line at about about half the length of the 4 inch parallel lines.
I honestly don't trust any square with moving parts. I only use them for marking short lines at a set distance, or transferring measurements. For that task a regular Irwin is just fine.
If you noticed some variance, It was probably due to my camera angle or when my lead was breaking when I scribed my lines. I had some run off with the pencil lead that made it look like there was a tad bit of a variance. I agree with you on squares with moving parts. I will probably not use those too often to check for square but more likely use it to even out table tops etc. Great points and thanks as always for watching!
That’s going to come in handy when I start building wooden space craft parts. Anything going to out space has to be pretty precise.
Oh good! Glad you liked them. I love them so far. I actually used my double square today! :). Thansk for watching Dan!
Ehh.. a lot less than you'd think. Lol.
Two Thumbs up Flynndogg.
You could do a whole series on "Not China" woodworking tools and please millions of woodworkers out here.
The fact that iGauging is US is a big bonus!
Thanks so much Jetme, and thanks for watching!
They are US like Milwaukee: they are an American company that has their tools manufactured in China. More profit that way.
@@SaintFredrocks Yep, I think that is the way most American companies have been moving to since the 70s. Thanks so much for watching!
The seventies were when the Japanese auto makers showed the US companies how a car should be made. The real damage started with NAFTA: I know first hand as I graduated with a degree in mechanical engineering shortly after it passed, and nobody in my class got jobs. That was the first of many terrible "free trade" treaties the US has signed that pretty much destroyed this country. You need a manufacturing base to succeed unless you are an oligarch that only cares about profit and not nation states. @@FlynndoggWoodwork
Glad your cousin is still hanging around “helping” great video. I love my igaging tools too.
I'm not sure he will ever leave. I saw a sleeping back in my loft the other day. I think he's sleeping in the barn! :). Thanks for watching Thomschall! :)
I use the 4 and 6 inch combo squares. After 2 years no complaints.
Great to know Dandelie! I saw those, and might get those as well down the road! thanks for sharing and watching!
Great presentation. Thank you for all that you do for the woodworking profession!
You are too kind! I’m not sure I do that much, but I’m having a lot of fun! Thanks so much for watching Tim!
@@FlynndoggWoodwork nah, just giving you the respect you deserve. You're very welcome Sir
@@timzeller1541 thank you!
A few years ago I installed an iGaging digital readout on my Grizzly 15" planer (purchased in early 90s) and it definately changed the whole setup and use process for the better. And it was relatively inexpensive.
Yeah, I use my imaging digital angle on every tablesaw I use. Mine, the shop I work in; both of them, and have used it on the drill press! It has improved my cuts on both the Powermatics at work and my Rockwell contractors saw!
How else would I would know that the newer Powermatic shows 45 degrees, but is really 43.5!
I have used it to set my miter saws, but it's just a bit too wonky. The manual angle guage is just a lot easier.
Also forgot that the dig. Angle Guage has magnets and can just sit on the blade as I adjust that pesky crank under the top! Makes me happy!
Meant to type igaging, not imaging! Hate that annoying spell check!
Thank you so much for sharing this! I was astounded by the number of digital products that this company has. I'd like to dig into some of those in the future as well. Looks like a lot of calipers are available from them as well. Thanks for sharing and watching Kimnach!
Love the squares, pencil exploded on me the first time I tried to use it.
Yeah, it's not a top tier pencil that is for sure, but heck... I didn't even know I was going to get one! :). Thanks for watching Marklybrand!
Great video!
Amazon is already sold out of the layout squares!! 😮😮
Oh man, I know. When I was making the video I noticed that. I had just purchased them about two weeks ago, so they must have just gone out of stock.
Thanks. Just ordered a set of squares.
Oh nice! I couldn't be more happy with mine. I honestly use them more than my woodpeckers now. Especially my double squares. Thanks so much for watching Dipperdap!
I’m a machinist so I work with dimensional tolerances in the ten thousandths of an inch. My $120 iGaging digital micrometer is just as accurate as the $250-$300 mitutoyo digital micrometers. The only difference is the battery life is a little bit shorter on my iGagings. They’re about 5years old now, still working like the day I unboxed them. Not a fanboy, just stating my experience with the brand.
Thanks so much for sharing this joe! Great to hear from someone who works with precision, and is satisfied with their calipers. I saw they have a few available and I was intrigued by them when I went to shoot this video. Thanks so much for sharing and thanks for watching!
Nice tools for the shop. Thank you for sharing. Everyone stay safe, warm, happy 😊 and healthy. From Henrico County Virginia
Always good to hear from you Norm! You stay safe (warm is harder to do this week) and happy and healthy as well!
I have several iGage tools and really like them.
I was really impressed with them. I won't hesitate to pull the trigger again on anything from them! Thanks for watching Steve!
Addendum: products are MADE IN CHINA... "American Brand" irrelevant if their products are made in china... this does not make them unique by any standard.
I don't disagree with you bentontool. Thanks so much for watching!
American design and quality standards DO make it relevant.
@@mrniusi11
Yep and they employ people here in the US.
They do employ people here though. Not sure if it's still the case but they used to have their headquarters not far from Camp Pendleton when I was stationed there.
@@KWW0321 Oh nice, that's good to know thanks for sharing kww0321!
Ok Mr Flynndogg, great video. I love Bert but I do have to say he dropped the ball during the first segment with "delve" squares. When you said the iGagging has an extra inch or extra half inch in length. Im sure there was a missed joke in there somewhere. Well great video as usual, I enjoy your sense of humor. Thanks.
Your mind works very similar to mine. That actually crossed my mind. When I edit these videos, I always hit myself on my head when I see a missed opportunity. Sometimes there is just too many opportunities to fit in one vidoe. I don't want burt talking that much! :). A lot of people hate him already! :). Thanks as always for watching CorbyQ!
I have several IGaging products and I like them a lot. I live in Melbourne Australia and getting them here from America has been a breeze, apart from the shipping costs which has gone up a fair bit.
I love hearing from people on the other side of the globe! Thank you so much for watching. I love Melbourne. I went there a few years ago and really enjoyed it!
Thank you for your tool evaluations and comparisons. As a newly interested woodworker I find these very useful as I decide what tools to acquire.
I appreciate that Bobhall-brooks! If you are looking for another great channel to start off on, check out steve ramsey as well. I started out with him when I first got started and he is GREAT!
I've been making high end custom cabinets for nearly 40 years. There are so many places to spend your money than $100 squares. But yes, $100 is better than $230 but not better than $10. If just starting out, spend your money on a cordless makita track saw, cordless drill /drivers, routers, saw stop table saw, etc. Then when you have extra money burning a hole in your pocket, get an e-bike or a drone or something that gives you the fiz nore than drawing a straight line
@@mzimmerman12 Very sound advice! Thanks for sharing mzimmerman!
@@mzimmerman12 How about a Blue Spruce Dovetail saw? I sold some guitar effects pedals that were sitting in the closet-guitar is my other money pit-and I ordered one and some other hand tools. ( I can't believe how cheap premium hand tools are compared to effects pedals.) I know I can buy a cheap one and fix it up myself, I have/am, but I know I will enjoy using it every time I do.
You nailed it with buying the SawStop, track saw, routers and drill/drivers before buying setup tools. I wonder how many new woodworkers realize what kind of rabbit hole they are getting into with routers? Good router bits can really add up fast, but once you get what you need, I think the results and ease of use justify the expense. I quit buying the cheap router bits when I read about a guy that had a cutter separate from the bit and lodge beside the bridge of his nose below an eyebrow.
@@SaintFredrocksI'm thinking a cheap square has as much chance of wedging into ones nose as an expensive one.
Great video as always Bryan love Burt I’ve been looking at the I gauging set up blocks also but going to check out the squares. Thanks for sharing
I saw those set up blocks, look really nice. Also saw some pretty slick calipers from them as well. Might have to check some of their other tools out down the road. Thanks as always for watching Jim!
Buy a Swanson speed square, the other tools you have already in your shop!
Oh, I've got one, and use it all the time! One of the first ones I ever got. Really excellent tool especially for the price!
Thanks for the comparison!
My pleasure! Thanks for watching!
Great job on the video brother. I'll be looking into these things.
Thanks so much Scott! I appreciate it. Their really pretty nice! Thanks so much for watching!
Another great video. I've been looking at them myself.keep up the good work
Thanks so much Robert! I appreciate that. I know not everyone enjoys my sense of humor so I appreciate it when someone likes my videos! :)
❤ Your videos are awesome! They always make our day!
You are way too kind Apriil! I appreciate anyone who takes the time out of their day to watch them, Thanks again! :)
IN terms of features on the scare, such as the thickness guides, it’s more o remembering they are there to use them, rather than grab another tool. I beleive most people just grab this square and use it for 90 and 45 degree squares.
Good point Scott Thanks so much for sharing and watching!
nice video, think I’ll try out the double squares, would also like to know how you insulated your garage door, what material did you use
Thanks so much! I think I spoke to you yesterday about this, but they come preinsulated and are roll up doors. Thanks so much for watching!
Great video man, love your uncles moustache.
Thanks so much rhwoodwork. He sure can grow it in thick!
Thanks Flynndogg!
Thank you for watching tpsooner! I appreciate it! :)
Your content improves with every video. I like your friend Bert. (Burt ?)
You are way too kind Stan. I’m not sure he knows how to spell it either. Thanks so much for watching really appreciate it!
I bought a combination square set off of them about ten years ago. I didn't notice one of the ends of the 12 inch rule wasn't finished square which made the measurements skewed. When I contacted Igaging about it, they said people don't use the ruler anyway they just use it to see if things are square. I bought another brand. Life is too short for that kind of customer service.
You know you are the second person who has mentioned their customer service isn't very good. that's good to know. I appreciate you sharing this!
I love my iGaging dial calipers ... for the price vs quality those guys cant be beat.
Besides I like blue better than red.
That's good ot know Traewatkins. I saw those available when I was doing this video. They looked pretty nice. I might have to try those out! Thanks so much for watching!
Take 4 squares and put them together. If they form tight double center axis lines, you have found true 90 degree ones.
Great tip mnmike! Thanks so much for sharing and watching, really appreciate it!
Definitely not a paid ad.
Nope, I bought all these tools with my own money. Thanks for watching
Love your attitude stay positive my bro
Thanks so much! I really appreciate that! Positivity is something that is very important to me and I appreciate when someone else appreciates it! :)
Igaging has always had ok stuff. I have two of their combo squares and both are off a tiny bit. Hope these squares are better
THanks for sharing bianchi! I like to hear everyones experiences with tools, I think it's important to hear all views. I appreciate you watching!
$200, or$80, for something that is essentially a speed square? I can get a swanson speed square for $15 and it does the exact same thing..
Great way to do it Randy. I love my swanson. Thanks so much for watching!
I have the layout squares. Found a set on eBay for $45 last September.
Nice grab! Thanks for sharing and watching groundhog!
@@FlynndoggWoodwork I still only break them out when I'm working alone and with new surfaces. The cheap aluminum squares still do all the dirty work and team work.
@@groundhog5923 Totally hear you. It's amazing howmuch the old swanson still gets used when I have some that are 10 times more expensive! :)
Thanks for the review
My pleasure 63huggybear! I appreciate you watching! :)
They also offer metric measures.
Oh awesome, I probably should have mentioned that as well! Thanks for sharing and watching Jason!
I was going to mention this if no one else did. It is difficult to find metric-only measuring products in the US, and iGaging makes them.
I just bought the 100+150mm Double Square set.
@@weldabar Taylor tools and Fastcap also have some metric only, as does Woodpeckers, if you don’t mind taking out that second mortgage.
@@weldabar Oh nice! thanks so much for sharing weldabar!
Oh great more toys, errr tools I want, you know I have very little willpower, how will I be able to save for my jointer? Thanks again for a great Saturday video.
Haha! Thanks as always for watching Pat! Make sure you get an 8" one! I made the mistake of buying a 6" the first time I got my jointer (just a word of advice to someone who wasn't asking for it! :)
@@FlynndoggWoodwork That's the plan, thanks for confirming my thoughts.
Excellent content.
Thanks so muhc herschel! I appreciate it. Thanks for watching! :)
Appears the SS blades on the 4" / 7" squares are drilled for 1/8" layout but the aluminum blades are drilled for 1/16" layout......??? Either way great video and looking at adding these to my shop SOON. Thanks!
Thanks so much Chuck! Really appreciate you watching! I'll have to check on the 1/16" vs. the 1/8" I feel like the wholes are staggered for the 1/16th which makes it a little difficult to see on the video, but I need to double check.
@@FlynndoggWoodworkTry your first Amazon link. The wholes are staggered & very clearly only drilled every 1/8". Maybe this is early production and they've changed??
@@Paladin7845 Interesting, wondering if I misread the tool. I'm going to give it another look. Thank you so much for pointing this out!
Thanks for the comparison. They look to quality tools.. Are they square on the inside too? I ask because that is where most people check face to edge squareness.
Great question, yes in my case. I did not see any variance on either side of the square. I should probably include that check as well on future videos. I do a lot of off camera testing especially when doing squares, I don't show it because it would bore people, but I should probably at least mention it. Thanks for bringing it up and thanks for watching Dave!
I wish DFM would make more products. They are high quality like Woodpeckers, Made in the USA, but like 25% cheaper.
I totally agree! There are so many opportunities out there for them! thanks so much for watching emo5ive!
The chamfered holes in the red guys leaves the end of the pencil lead less supported, for a longer distance.
Ohhhhhh! That would be why my darn lead keeps breaking with those red tools. I think they were trying to make it easier to stick the lead in, but i'd rather have the lead support! Great point. Makes total sense!
Not got any I guaging stuff. I’ll look at them
Yeah, I've been pretty impressed with them so far. Looks like they have a lot of digital items too I'd like to check out! Thanks so much for watching thewoodjunki!
Love the video highlighting lower cost tools. Would you review router lifts? The price range is from $50 all way up to almost $500. I can't afford $350 for something I would not use that much but would like a as good but lower cost option.
This is a great idea elizabeth! I think I even got an email from you regarding this today. I'm definitely going to add this to my potential video list. I think it's a wonderful idea. Thanks so much fro suggesting it and thanks for watching!
Amazing
@@FlynndoggWoodwork
Love the iGaging tools - my only complaint is they cheaped out on the mech. pencil - broke after dropping to the shop floor.
Totally agree with you on that one John. I guess it made it a little better for me as I wasn't expecting the pencil when I got it. But definitely a cheapy! Thanks so much for watching!
Went to add these to my Amazon cart and unfortunately the layout squares are not available.
I know, I noticed that when I was editing the video. I had purchased these 3 sets about 2 weeks ago so hopefully they will come back in stock
i gagging😂 Burt runs in very different circles to most I think🤣 love the uploads just wish I could afford the tools….one day maybe😢😅
I think you hit the nail right on the head there! :). thank you so much for watching Michael! I really appreciate it!
I wish I had the same accurate 12” igaging square you had. I bought those squares a few years back, and my 12 inch was off by an 1/8 of an inch. I think the quality control is not as consistent as woodpeckers.
I am referring to the 12” igaging layout squares.
Thank you so much for sharing this You2datube! I wouldn't be surprised if the QC is not as tight as woodpeckers, I think they pride themselves on that. Although I have heard people getting out of square woodpeckers though. But they replace them immediately from what i hear. Sorry to hear you had that issue, but thanks for watching!
I have a double square and a combo square and both are accurate and work well. One thing I don’t like is the screw knob. The machining isn’t great and the knob often gets jammed up. Does anyone know the threading? I’d like to get a tap and make sure the threads are clean.
Intersting. You know after using my double square a bit from them that would have to be my only complaint too. Seems like they might be able to improve that a bit. I've never had any other double square than theirs however so maybe it's a common problem. Thanks so much for watching Pete!
I've had the iGaging layout squares for a while, worth every cent!
Great to hear gtp1172. I suspect these will be around my shop for while as well. I'm learning they have all sorts of other tools available as well that people have had a good experience with as well. Might have to check those out too! Thanks so much for sharing and watching!
Haha!! I was expecting an I C U P joke!! 😂😂
Oh Man! Missed Opportunity there! Thanks as always for watchign Damon! :)
yea. i bought the 4 in double square. the ends of the measure is so ruff it looks like it was cut off with a hack saw. poorly machined. do you think i would trust them on any other tool. spend a tiny bit more and get some quality
Well, that is definitely not my experience. Their 4" double square is one of my favorites. I actually use it more than my woodpeckers. Thanks so much for watching!
You could forget to use your friend in your video.😀
Thanks for the feedback. I’ve asked him to leave multiple times but I’m not sure he’s getting it. 🤬
Thanks.
Thanks so much for watching Edwin! Your username reminds me of my dad. He had a Case Tractor he had as a kid and always wanted to get another one in his retirement.
As a professional woodworker I’ll stick with starrett and woodpeckers. There’s a ton of companies using the American flag in advertising, yes they are American companies with no manufacturing facilities only storage and shipping warehouse.
Yes, I would agree with you. I think most global companies are that way these days. Even the big names like Ford, Chevy, Cattipillar etc. I'm just looking for affordable quality tools. Thanks so much for watching yellowdog!
@@FlynndoggWoodwork I get it man, I’m just a guy with an old soul who is grumpy about seeing the downhill momentum of the trade that saved my life and the country I loved .
@@yellowdog2181 I hear you, and respect that!
Thank for the comparison but I do have a question.
You don't address it in the video but in your title it seems that you are implying that igaging is a USA made product. Can you confirm this? I've read elsewhere that they are chinese. That's not necessarily a deal breaker if they are as good as they appear to be and that much better priced but I would appreciate an accurate representation.
Well you will notice the question in my title. I did some research on them and it appears that they are running their buisiness side of things from the US but manufacturing is done elsewhere. It is hard to tell what is exactly going on with them without having some inside knowledge. Great question and thanks for asking!
The only advantage woodpeckers has over the competition is marketing. Any cnc machined tools will be more accurate than anything required for woodworking. I'm glad to see that you didn't do the idiotic eyeball test for squareness. Holding any of these tools will cause more tolerance variation from thermal expansion than any factory spec.
I'm glad you brought this up Douglas. I was working on a project today and I measured everything out with some fancy precision layout tools and I realized, I'm the problem in the equation. I didn't cut on the line, or I had a board that wasn't exactly milled perfectly. There really is only so much precision we need in woodworking. Human error is always more than the tolerances of these tools!
Exactly. If you think about it nobody's fence is located parallel to the blade anywhere near the accuracy of the square. And the blade wobbles more than the tolerance of the square. It's just a game of specs that nobody can measure at home.@@FlynndoggWoodwork
I bought all of these as they were released. Very pleased. Used often. I baby the squares a bit.
That's great to hear FearsomeWarrior. I broke out the double square today for a project. Really like that 4 inch one! Thanks so much for watching as always!
Not an American tool brand. They are full imports. Their parent brand is IPIC, Igaging is their measurement tool side, InPrecision is industrial. ALL they do is import overseas stuff. Harbor Freight likely has more hand in design processes than these guys from all I can see digging deeper.
You seem to know a lot about them. Thanks for sharing. If you google them, it immediately says they are an american company. I encountered the same thing as it appears many of their items are made in china, but the parent compnay is american. Thus the question mark in the thumbnail! thanks for sharing and watching Matt
Haha right
Where in America are those made?
The company is American, that is why there is a question mark in the thumbnail. They are indeed an american company but they do a lot of their manufacturing in China. thanks for watching silveravnt!
I am confused about the "American" part.....there is no indication that this stuff is anything other than imported.
Igaging is an American company based out of California. They manufacture out of china. That is why I put a question mark in the thumbnail. thanks for watching
The igaging website doesn't explain where these tools are manufactured. Is igaging just an importer? I think their country of origin should be included in your discussion when comparing their products to domestically manufactured tools.
That is why there is a question mark in my title. I couldn't verify either. Thanks for watching
I have the igaging double square. It's square.
That is by far my favorite igaging product. Love their double square. I use it all the time. Thanks so much for watching Blayne!
Dogg, man..God Bless the USA. Almost all the Igaging stuff we have in the shop is made overseas. Did you just drop the "Woodpeckers" name? I'd be doing push-ups, but I still can't ( the meatballs are smoking through them, though.) But, Dogg, man...don't we have enough squares already. Let's stop avoiding the lathe. If those tools are made in 'Merica, why are the scribe holes in mm? Are you sure they're made in the USA? The box says, "Designed in by IGAGING in California; Made in China." Just saying...effing Burt.
Yep, They are made in china by an american company. I think that is unfortunately the way a lot of american companies are this day. Either way, I think it's a pretty decent quality tool. I'm glad at least the meatballs are able to get a few reps in. And I agree effing burt!
yea they are white labeled chinese tools. "Designed in America" is probably a stretch even since the parent company IPIC literally specialized in just importing precision tools. Their industrial tool side is InPrecision.
@@FlynndoggWoodwork Dogg, man, keep up the good work
@@MattWeber Thank you for that explanation. What does the term "white labeled" chinese tools means; I'm guessing it refers to a generic brand/tool.
@@themeat5053 Thank you sir!
Why I am not subscribed already to this channel? Probably because you cost me money everytime I watch! Oh wait, maybe you're saving me money......I'm so confused.
Haha! You are telling me, I wish I had more viewers so that I could pay for all these darn tools! :) Thanks for watching old marine! :)
These look almost perfect- but i dislike round scribe holes 😞
Yeah the oval ones are a bit better! Thanks for watching!
Interesting, I, for whatever reason, thought iGaging was an import brand....
They are an American company, but I think they do a lot of their manufacturing outside of the United States. That's why i put the question mark by American in the Thumbnail. Thanks for watching
Making nice, clean straight lines is nice but most woodworkers can't follow the lines the layout.... I know I don't.
You are sooooo right Richard. I use referential measurements most of the time, but there are great to start off with (if you can follow the line). I’m just like you, I’m always a little off!
These tools are nice and affordable but they are not made in USA. I just wanted to put that out, the title of this video is a bit misleading. I am not sure that they are actually a USA based company, they have an office in California and they sponsor the local basketball team but I couldn't find out much information on their about page in their website.
Yeah, that is definitely why I put the question mark after in the thumbnail. It's hard to tell where companies are located these days. I have no doubt they are probably registered as a California company, but I know they do a lot if not all of their manufacturing in China. Thanks so much for commenting and watching Abelesparza
I missed the question mark on the thumb nail. Was the question ever answered? I trying not to sounds sarcastic. I like the video overall, it was funny, especially your co-star...i-gag-ing😂😂😂
@@abelesparza6059 Haha! Thanks so much. I think the consensus from the comments and what I researched that it is a company registered in the US (designed etc.) and they manufacture in china probably to cut down on costs.
Unless the new Icup comes with self filling Colombian coffee and Baileys I'm uninterested!
Oh man, that would be amazing wouldn't it! :). Thanks so much for watching bmacaulay!
I still wood'nt pay that much for those small tools.
They definitely aren't cheap, just cheaper.... thanks so much for watching Paul, really appreciate it!
Their Calipers are decent.
I saw those, when i was making this video. I may have to try those out someday. Looks like they make a few different types of those. Thanks for sharing and watching Richard!
I bought the machine squares from this company and the biggest one was out of square . contacted the company no response
Good to know, thanks for sharing. I got mine off of amazon. I would have just sent mine back to amazon if I encountered the same problems, but thanks for letting us know and thanks for watching!
I will use whatever is best and I can afford. I may have to go with the less expensive tool for one thing so you can afford an expensive one on the other. As long as they’re accurate and not garbage, perhaps I’ll buy the iGauge tool so they can afford the Cosman saw or Nielsen plane. China is not my enemy. My beloved America 🇺🇸 sure seems to be sometimes however.
Thanks so much for watching and commenting Jaime, really appreciate it
Do you do any woodworking?
My last two videos were project builds, did you miss them?
I didn't get notification of your videos for the last 2 weeks. Frustrating. Carry on.
@@timothyvanderschultzen9640 Haha! Totally get it. Woodworking videos tend to not do as well. Which is really frustrating sometimes. I'm making another on this week as well. stay tuned! :)
@@FlynndoggWoodwork Yeah, but I'm subbed with notification on. You'd figure I'd know when all your new vids come out. I enjoyed the build videos. Thanks!
@@timothyvanderschultzen9640 awesome! there will be more coming,. I spent all day working on a project build video today, should be out in a couple of weeks!
Apple pricing? And this coming from a guy with a shop full of designer power tools, ie. Festool.
Thanks for watching Johnny
They're on Temu for about a $ each lol
OMG, almost everythign I've gotten from Temu has been pretty low quality, I'm sure they are a cheap knock off. Thanks so much for watching mymobile5014
The trick is anything passive is mostly OK. Anything electronic is usually dodgy. I've got 2 speed squares from Temu for £1.20 and I love them!@@FlynndoggWoodwork
Chhyyyyynnnnnaaaa. Great food though.
Yum! Thanks for watching Patrujo!
My local Rockler store has a lot of igaging products, and they're all made in China. Very disappointing! Of course, most Rockler tools are made in China, so that's to be expected from them
Thanks for pointing that out 77thesnake. I appreciate it and thanks for watching!
Only for American woodworkers, 95% of the world uses the metric system to measure stuff.
Yep, we are definitely backwards in that way. Would love to be on the metric system, more accurate and more intuitive in my opinion. Thanks for watching Russ!
@@FlynndoggWoodworkwhen it’s perfect , it’s close enough .
i think if you check that igaging tools while us owned are made in china but sadly,whats new?
:( well, the company is US based apparently, but I agree hard to find a lot of stuff manufactured entirely in US anymore. Thanks for watchign Doodlecoma!
You stated in your title that these were an American company. I did some checking and everything I found stated the following. The only thing American is the design everything is manufactured in China.
You are correct, it is an american company however. Manufactured in china, which is what you will find with most American companies, for cars, to almost everything these days. That ford, and that cummins engine that you have have the majority of their parts made overseas
@@FlynndoggWoodwork I get that but woodpecker and TSO products are both designed and manufactured in America. I’m new to your channel have you ever looked at the TSO products?
American companies don't mean much, employees few Americans in favor of Chinese labor.
@@JamesSmullins sadly, but if I find a company that uses a greater number of American employees I’ll personally will pay the higher price.
@@elktrip2000 no I haven't! I'm very interested in checking them out. I'm actually on their website right now. Looks like a lot of cool stuff. Thanks for mentioning them!
I WAS a fan of igaging tools. I own several of them and use them daily. I am no longer a fan. I purchased an Igaging layout square two months ago and it was not square. I called I gaging and the person that answered the phone could barely speak English. After several minutes of trying to understand what she was saying I finally understood that she was telling me to email them. After three emails, I've yet to receive a single email from them. Igaging tools migh t be a good deal until something goes wrong and then their customer service is diplorable.
Really, that's not right. Sorry to hear that prmisunshinestatedivison. Thanks for sharing and watching
Design in California. Made in China.
Yep, that sounds like the consensus. That's why I put the questionmark in the thumbnail. Its kind of decieving.
...and both Communists.
No offense, but I would prefer that you kept your videos more serious... get rid of the comedy and fake mustaches... it is a waste of time and not amusing. You provide good info... don't' spoil it.
Thanks for the feedback. I appreciate it!
Apparently the igaging square is not that square: th-cam.com/video/BKRjyMB2QcU/w-d-xo.html
Thanks so much for sharing myledang. Mine were good but great to see all perspectives!
Still wouldn't buy an iCup.
Haha! I don't think I would either! :). Thanks so much for watchign Nelsonbrum!
Please try to be accurate with titles else people are going to think click bait
I’m not sure what you are referring to. But thanks for your input
@@FlynndoggWoodwork "American Tool Brand" made in china
@@JesseJames-wj8ft It's an american company, they manufacture in china just like almost any larger company in the US. This is a global economy now, That's also why I put the questionmark in the thumbnail.
@@FlynndoggWoodwork Ok man I am not going to dogg you out, there are tools actually made in the USA by US companies, Klein tools, for example. Many Crescent tools as well. Yes I have heard of globalism, doesn't mean your only option is to buy chinese produced junk. When you see a title of "Exploring an Overlooked American Tool Brand", naturally, one thinks made in the USA. Anyone can be headquartered in the USA, might be chinese owned as well.I know tools my man, I am a 20 year journeyman union carpenter mostly into heavy construction with a side CNC business [Yes, CNC USA made] - I will go out of my way to buy USA, I wish everyone else would too.
Mort-gage... death grip..
Thanks for watching Matthatter!
Gee, what kind of archaic measurement system is used on these tools? Are they using cubits and furlongs?
Ok, just a light poke from the rest of the world, where we sem to have 10 fingers, 10 toes, not 16 😉
I'm with you lohikarhu! I wish we were on metric as well. I find myself using it more and more. My metric standard tape measure is one of my favorite. I just pick the like that looks the closest to where i want it to be. Now Cubits... that might be interesting. heck they built the pyramids with those didn't they?!
Pls, change to the Metric System!
I'm with you! I would be happy to do that. So much more precise and accurate!