Joe Mantana is a world-class person all the way. Exemplary sportsmanship, achievements on and off the field, and remaining an icon to generations of admired fans. Thank you for sharing your wonderful moments with another 49ers Giant, Dwight Clark. RIP, DC.
Nice shout out to Eric Wright for being the other hero of that famous NFC Championship Game. Wright was the savior of so many games (including Super Bowl XVI) also shout out to Jim Stuckey for recovering the final Danny White fumble in '81 game
I was a niner fan from 10 to 13 yrs. I was a naive child. I will say that Brady doesn't hold a candle to Montana. To do what he did in that era? Qbs and rbs were getting their heads planted in the turf.
The improvisation that Joe Montana had when he played was something I didn't see from anyone else then. He was multifaceted. He didn't have the best arm like Marino, he didn't have the zip that Elway had, he didn't run like Cunningham, but he did it all exceptionally well.
I am a Dallas Cowboys fan , I could listen to Joe Montana talk for hours, for his insight of one of the most amazing games ever I have seen ,he didn’t have to bring it up with the Erick wright ,Drew Pearson play, the game was not over.Again great story from a game that I did not get over for me for years.
Joe Montana when he played for the Forty Niners are a Hard Act to Follow. Best Football Team I have ever Watched. I too don't watch Football last 5-7 years to busy doing other things the NFL and Players today are to Politcal
Incorrect. The players have always been politically conscious. You just ignored it. You honestly think free agency and the very nature of the teams wasn’t political? Since the seventies, at least.
Joe Montana had it harder then any other quarterback. Back in the day there were no rules how to hit a quarterback today if you hit a quarterback the wrong way it’s a flag. If Joe Montana was playing today he would’ve won over 8 Super Bowls. If Joe Montana was in his prime today he would’ve beaten any Quarterback today. God bless you Joe you’re a real warrior he took a Lotta good hits and he came back and won two more Super Bowls
@@lzv6990 I'm pretty sure Joe Montana played more than 4 seasons. Not only did he not win more than 4 Superbowls, he never made it to any others. You have to get to them to have a chance to win. Just saying...
@Scott Tracy Actually the Giants came right and said that they had a "don't hurt Joe Montana policy" because they had prepared for him and didn't want to have to change to covering Steve Young mid-game. So.....
I loved Montana as a kid and love him now as a person...but the QB's back in the 60's 50's and 40's took way worse punishment...so no Montana did not have it harder than other other QB. Montana even ranks Otto Graham and Johnny Unitas as the 2 Greatest because he recognizes the different eras...Montana even said he is not sure if he could've played in their eras.
My Father had ALS and passed in '79, eleven days before my 21st Bday. Less than two years later the Niners began their reign. I always entertained the idea that my Dad nudged someone up there and the Football Gods smiled on the Bay. Thank you Joe & Dwight for being the catalysts of such a magnificent era. I was crushed when I learned DC was suffering from it. RIP Dwight.
Im glad he mentioned Eric Wright's tackle..because theit wood have really changed the complexion of the game...I can still see it...my heart went to my throat ..Joe is a class act
Joe was the best no doubt. You would never think of losing in the last minutes with Joe in the game! Simple as that! Great chemistry between DC and Joe Cool! Awesome memories!
I became a Raider fan in 1977. I was 12 yrs old. Then the 49ers came about. What an AMAZING situation. A new offense nobody had ever seen and I was a kid so umm ya I was still learning. Bill created an AMAZING team with Joe, DC, JR, Ronnie and Roger. Man they were an beyond well oiled machine as time went on. Joe was 100% the best QB in his ear no DOUBT. I respect those whole damn teams back then. GO RAIDERS!!!!! lol
you're right, Tom Brady doesn't dominate like Joe Montana did, Brady just dominates at a far superior level. Very touching interview none the less. Montana is a legend, but he is no longer the best QB to ever play in the NFL. That title belongs to the kid who idolized him now.
@@multiplemike5021 Brady couldn't carry Montana's dirty jock...Montana was better in every aspect of the position..the ONLY thing Brady has on Joe is longevity..and that can be attributed largely to all the rule changes to protect the QB and favor offense..
@@multiplemike5021 you're delusional. Brady's team dominates, he is just along for the ride. He won a super bowl where the other team scored 3 pts...wow must be so hard to win that. Even still struggled to score 13. Joe > Brady, even if Brady had 12 rings
This interview is great. First of all...Joe just said that the Dwight Clark "Catch" was a play that they practiced many times. This should end the 40+ year debate about Joe just throwing the ball away and Dwight just happening to catch it. - Secondly, for me it was great to hear they lived in Hayward CA. - I not only spent over 40 years in CA / Bay area from 1979-2021 but 20 of them was Hayward. I once met Dwight in a Safeway grocery store and we talked for over 10 min. - He told me "The Catch" is what most fans ask him about. He also told me it was practiced with Joe, dozens of times. I was a huge fan of the Niners. I video taped that game as well as the first Super Bowl they were in. (Right after that.) (I still have the tape) I also got the DVD's of the 5 super Bowls they won. I will forever love Joe Montana, Steve Young and Jerry Rice. (They still have individual records that no other players have ever beaten.) I am grateful that I lived in the right place at the right time. I feel part of the well deserved celebration of a team so awesome, with great individual players as well as a smart and creative manager. It was just what I needed. (Moving from MN to CA in 1979, and watching the Vikings go to the Super Bowl 4 times and LOSE.) The 49ers will always have a place in my heart.This year Brock Purdy is looking like another future Joe Montana. Maybe they will win the SB again or maybe even the Vikings finally. I have mixed feelings. I now am back in MN. (Life is a weird thing...lol.) I left my heart in San Francisco. Now I finally understand the song. We will see what happens.
No doubt the greatest of all time ! But to me, the Catch was trailblazing and all that, but the third SB win against Cinn is a game I'll never forget taking the team 92 yards to win in the closing seconds and this is after telling Harris Barton that Uncle Buck was in the stands over there. Talk about being cool, that was our Joe !
When he first became known during the 1981 season, my Dad couldn't remember his name. Dad just knew it was a name like Jim or Jack or John. And the last name was named after a state in the West. So, he became "Jim Utah" in my family. By the time the 49ers beat the Cowboys to go to the Super Bowl, Dad knew his real name but we still love calling him "Jim Utah" out of respect to Dad. God bless Dwight Clark and Joe (Jim Utah).
Sometime in the early 90s, Joe and Dwight came strolling into the bar I was working at in Los Gatos, CA. It was a busy summer night at the Los Gatos Brewing Company. A new brew pub and restaurant at the time. The bar area was pack as word spread in about .3 seconds that these two very well know celebrities has just entered the area. Talk about grown, well-to-do, men and women, loosing all senses of themselves. They suffocated those poor guys with greetings and handshakes. Even the boss of the place on that night lost his mind to start pitching investment opportunities to Joe. It was crazy. Apparently, these types of situations were not new for Joe. And he came prepared. As about 20 grown adults surrounded both Joe and Dwight, Joe, in a stroke of brilliance reach into his pocket. In a flash, Joe thew down a nicely manufactured glass canister stink bomb. It immediately took effect and his clambering admires were running for breathable air. But Joe just stood there smiling, unaffected. It was brilliant. They were great guys that evening. Talking to everyone. Enjoying their night out.
Joe Montana will always be better than Tom Brady. If Montana was playing today for the Patriots instead of Brady, then they would have won all nine Super Bowls. In fact, when Brady has missed time, his backups have a better winning percentage.
When Joe was in his prime, when he hooked up with Jerry Rice that was it. In the 1980's the NFC dominated. The AFC won the super bowl once in 10 years. So in effect the NFC championship game was the real super bowl. In my opinion the 49ers had the least talent of the following teams from top to bottom: Bears, Redskins, Giants. The Giants had the most transformative devensive player: Lawrence Taylor. The 85 Chicago Bears had the most complete roster of dominance since the 1970's Steelers. And the Washington Redskins had the greatest offensive line ever. That's the conference of champions Joe Montana had to face, and let me be clear, they were multiple champions no less with the Giants and Redskins. Bill Walsh's talent was play calling. Bill Parcell's talent was telling his guys to do what was nessessary to take out Joe Montana. Cause Joe was bloodless in that he didn't rattle. Ever. In the '89 NFC title game Giant defensive tackle Leonard Marshall grabbed Montana's arm and snapped it. As great as the NY Giants were, they couldn't beat Joe Montana and Jerry Rice straight up. Bill Walsh retired too soon. But he and George Sefiert got it in their stupid heads that Joe had to be replaced by Steve Young. Now Steve Young is in the hall of fame, and he did beat the Chargers in '95 but he was foolish to force Montana out. He runs right into the Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay which ended his playoff runs and gave him the concussions and shortened his career. Yeah Steve Young could run, but he wasn't close to Montana in overall ability.
Kinda funny, Joe commented on sharing an apartment w Dwight, that they didn’t get the big money that they do today! Joes only worth 80m!. As a chiefs fan, I love Mahomes, but there was something about Joe that’s only Joe. Perhaps it’s his humility on the field.
Montana is the greatest quarterback ever. Dan Marino the greatest pure passer ever , Montana Is better than Brady? Imagine Montana and Marino in today's NFL in their Prime Wow. Play Watch the video on Dan Marino, Joe Montana Jim Kelly. And Joe Namath says it all there.
I saw this skinny little kid from Pennsyvania throw no look passes before it was fashionable cause all I could afford we're end zone tickets at Candlestick. Joe could move into the pocket and throw the ball 50 yards and it was right there.....I have seen magic.....
While Tom Brady has had the greatest career of any football player if you asked Tom Brady who his favorite football player is, he would say Joe Montana.
As a former Steelers fan. Back when I was a kid, Terry Bradshaw was the man. Joe has came close to be his equal. Both 4 time super champs. Terry still has my pic. Today's NFL has nothing to yesteryear. Take a knee.
Maybe Joe should consider to train Jimmy G teach him his foot work and his scrambling skills that Jimmy G is lacking consider it a pass on down from Bill Walsh paying it forward if you will
Joe Mantana is a world-class person all the way. Exemplary sportsmanship, achievements on and off the field, and remaining an icon to generations of admired fans. Thank you for sharing your wonderful moments with another 49ers Giant, Dwight Clark. RIP, DC.
So glad to hear Joe give a shout out to Eric Wright's game saving tackle. Without that tackle, the Catch wouldn't be remembered.
Montana was the greatest QB I ever saw and a great guy. He could probably get out there and throw a td pass right now.
Nice shout out to Eric Wright for being the other hero of that famous NFC Championship Game. Wright was the savior of so many games (including Super Bowl XVI) also shout out to Jim Stuckey for recovering the final Danny White fumble in '81 game
I was never a 49er fan. But I could never deny the fact that Joe Montana was the best quarterback ever!!!!!
He sure made it look easy.
I was a niner fan from 10 to 13 yrs. I was a naive child. I will say that Brady doesn't hold a candle to Montana. To do what he did in that era? Qbs and rbs were getting their heads planted in the turf.
Watch the old 49er games with him now on You tube. They are still great to watch.
The improvisation that Joe Montana had when he played was something I didn't see from anyone else then. He was multifaceted. He didn't have the best arm like Marino, he didn't have the zip that Elway had, he didn't run like Cunningham, but he did it all exceptionally well.
Joe & Dwight were special to watch on the football field.
The best QB ever..He ain’t no ordinary Joe! and I’m a Chicago Bears fan.🙏🙏
What a nice guy. Who wouldn’t want him as a friend. Class act.
Joe is a Legend
And you are beautiful Olivia
Joe's eulogy of Dwight was beautiful. Great friendship created the first 49ers great victory
No one could haved loved Dwight Clark anymore than his family, friends and teammates did !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joe Montana-human Mount Rushmore...A Titan on&off the field.
Joe, Montana, forever, the GOAT.
I am a Dallas Cowboys fan , I could listen to Joe Montana talk for hours, for his insight of one of the most amazing games ever I have seen ,he didn’t have to bring it up with the Erick wright ,Drew Pearson play, the game was not over.Again great story from a game that I did not get over for me for years.
I love Joe Montana
His the best
Best quarterback and wide receiver of all time
Joe Montana when he played for the Forty Niners are a Hard Act to Follow. Best Football Team I have ever Watched. I too don't watch Football last 5-7 years to busy doing other things the NFL and Players today are to Politcal
Klaus Schreyer hopefully you got to tune in a little this season, because this Niners team is a throwback to the early 90’s.
Incorrect. The players have always been politically conscious. You just ignored it. You honestly think free agency and the very nature of the teams wasn’t political? Since the seventies, at least.
@@lynnerose7891 your incorrect
A gentleman where some are not.
Clark would always torch my Cowboys. Looking back he was a great receiver. RIP Clark!
The Catch ? Thank you Joe & Dwight. I was in 7th grade & had a $5. bet with a friend that was a stinkin' Cowboys fan. Thank you, Joe & Dwight !! 😎
Joe Montana had it harder then any other quarterback. Back in the day there were no rules how to hit a quarterback today if you hit a quarterback the wrong way it’s a flag. If Joe Montana was playing today he would’ve won over 8 Super Bowls. If Joe Montana was in his prime today he would’ve beaten any Quarterback today. God bless you Joe you’re a real warrior he took a Lotta good hits and he came back and won two more Super Bowls
The rules were the same for every team. He would not have won 8 Superbowls. All the quarterbacks were in the same situation.
sevenrats
Quarterbacks couldn’t play as long back then so they could’ve acquire as much stats of championships. They were worn out at a younger age.
@@lzv6990 I'm pretty sure Joe Montana played more than 4 seasons. Not only did he not win more than 4 Superbowls, he never made it to any others. You have to get to them to have a chance to win. Just saying...
@Scott Tracy Actually the Giants came right and said that they had a "don't hurt Joe Montana policy" because they had prepared for him and didn't want to have to change to covering Steve Young mid-game. So.....
I loved Montana as a kid and love him now as a person...but the QB's back in the 60's 50's and 40's took way worse punishment...so no Montana did not have it harder than other other QB. Montana even ranks Otto Graham and Johnny Unitas as the 2 Greatest because he recognizes the different eras...Montana even said he is not sure if he could've played in their eras.
My Father had ALS and passed in '79, eleven days before my 21st Bday. Less than two years later the Niners began their reign. I always entertained the idea that my Dad nudged someone up there and the Football Gods smiled on the Bay. Thank you Joe & Dwight for being the catalysts of such a magnificent era. I was crushed when I learned DC was suffering from it. RIP Dwight.
1980s dominated by Joe, RIP no 87......DC will always be remembered
Im glad he mentioned Eric Wright's tackle..because theit wood have really changed the complexion of the game...I can still see it...my heart went to my throat ..Joe is a class act
He is simply the best.
Love how much of a family that older 49ers team was.....it makes sense how much us niner fans loved these guys all the way to the owner of the team.
Joe was the best no doubt. You would never think of losing in the last minutes with Joe in the game! Simple as that! Great chemistry between DC and Joe Cool! Awesome memories!
Joe Forever Joe Montana, the best QB.
GOAT
I became a Raider fan in 1977. I was 12 yrs old. Then the 49ers came about. What an AMAZING situation. A new offense nobody had ever seen and I was a kid so umm ya I was still learning. Bill created an AMAZING team with Joe, DC, JR, Ronnie and Roger. Man they were an beyond well oiled machine as time went on. Joe was 100% the best QB in his ear no DOUBT. I respect those whole damn teams back then. GO RAIDERS!!!!! lol
S P dont forget JT , rathman and jones man we were so blessed as fans.
Joe Montana was ahead of his time, he was a prodigy, no quarterback ever will dominate the NFL like he did.
you're right, Tom Brady doesn't dominate like Joe Montana did, Brady just dominates at a far superior level. Very touching interview none the less. Montana is a legend, but he is no longer the best QB to ever play in the NFL. That title belongs to the kid who idolized him now.
@@multiplemike5021 Brady couldn't carry Montana's dirty jock...Montana was better in every aspect of the position..the ONLY thing Brady has on Joe is longevity..and that can be attributed largely to all the rule changes to protect the QB and favor offense..
@@multiplemike5021 you're delusional. Brady's team dominates, he is just along for the ride. He won a super bowl where the other team scored 3 pts...wow must be so hard to win that. Even still struggled to score 13. Joe > Brady, even if Brady had 12 rings
Multiple Mike Brady isn’t mobile so he’d be a sitting duck against the “knock the QB out” era that Montana played in.
Asif Khan Brady would be mince meat in Montana’s era. Sitting duck waiting to get taken out.
There are some legendary stories about these two guys. They always had the room closest to the stairwell in the team hotel, so they could sneak...
Montana is a class act. He was the best. My Grandfather used to teased me that he was Jack Wyoming.
Joe seems so down to earth. It was fun watching him on Sundays. Thank you for all you have done. Take care.
God blesd Dwight
This interview is great. First of all...Joe just said that the Dwight Clark "Catch" was a play that they practiced many times. This should end the 40+ year debate about Joe just throwing the ball away and Dwight just happening to catch it. - Secondly, for me it was great to hear they lived in Hayward CA. - I not only spent over 40 years in CA / Bay area from 1979-2021 but 20 of them was Hayward. I once met Dwight in a Safeway grocery store and we talked for over 10 min. - He told me "The Catch" is what most fans ask him about. He also told me it was practiced with Joe, dozens of times. I was a huge fan of the Niners. I video taped that game as well as the first Super Bowl they were in. (Right after that.) (I still have the tape) I also got the DVD's of the 5 super Bowls they won. I will forever love Joe Montana, Steve Young and Jerry Rice. (They still have individual records that no other players have ever beaten.) I am grateful that I lived in the right place at the right time. I feel part of the well deserved celebration of a team so awesome, with great individual players as well as a smart and creative manager. It was just what I needed. (Moving from MN to CA in 1979, and watching the Vikings go to the Super Bowl 4 times and LOSE.) The 49ers will always have a place in my heart.This year Brock Purdy is looking like another future Joe Montana. Maybe they will win the SB again or maybe even the Vikings finally. I have mixed feelings. I now am back in MN. (Life is a weird thing...lol.) I left my heart in San Francisco. Now I finally understand the song. We will see what happens.
Nice interview. Life takes its turns. For every thing there is a season. RIP Dwight Clark.
Just GREAT!
JOE MONTANA 🏆🏆🏆🏆☝️(16)☝️🇺🇸 FIRST CLASS (GOD) BLESS YOU JOE ONE OF MY FAVORITE QUARTERBACKS OF ALL TIME✌️
to me he's the G O A T
No doubt the greatest of all time ! But to me, the Catch was trailblazing and all that, but the third SB win against Cinn is a game I'll never forget taking the team 92 yards to win in the closing seconds and this is after telling Harris Barton that Uncle Buck was in the stands over there. Talk about being cool, that was our Joe !
Class
Such a regular guy.
Joe Montana will always be the coolest QB because Tom Brady is just weird and creepy. Joe was both the GOAT and also managed to stay sane and likable.
Thanks for saying that, because Brady does have something about him that comes across as creepy and a bit strange.
Creepy? You’re the creepy one both QBs are goats in their own way
Tom Brady has to deal with the internet news and social media. It's a different world.
My favorite QB of all time.
When he first became known during the 1981 season, my Dad couldn't remember his name. Dad just knew it was a name like Jim or Jack or John. And the last name was named after a state in the West. So, he became "Jim Utah" in my family. By the time the 49ers beat the Cowboys to go to the Super Bowl, Dad knew his real name but we still love calling him "Jim Utah" out of respect to Dad. God bless Dwight Clark and Joe (Jim Utah).
I did a fundraiser with Dwight in 2012. What an amazing servant leader
Sometime in the early 90s, Joe and Dwight came strolling into the bar I was working at in Los Gatos, CA. It was a busy summer night at the Los Gatos Brewing Company. A new brew pub and restaurant at the time. The bar area was pack as word spread in about .3 seconds that these two very well know celebrities has just entered the area. Talk about grown, well-to-do, men and women, loosing all senses of themselves. They suffocated those poor guys with greetings and handshakes. Even the boss of the place on that night lost his mind to start pitching investment opportunities to Joe. It was crazy. Apparently, these types of situations were not new for Joe. And he came prepared. As about 20 grown adults surrounded both Joe and Dwight, Joe, in a stroke of brilliance reach into his pocket. In a flash, Joe thew down a nicely manufactured glass canister stink bomb. It immediately took effect and his clambering admires were running for breathable air. But Joe just stood there smiling, unaffected. It was brilliant. They were great guys that evening. Talking to everyone. Enjoying their night out.
Legend
Joe Montana will always be better than Tom Brady. If Montana was playing today for the Patriots instead of Brady, then they would have won all nine Super Bowls. In fact, when Brady has missed time, his backups have a better winning percentage.
When Joe was in his prime, when he hooked up with Jerry Rice that was it. In the 1980's the NFC dominated. The AFC won the super bowl once in 10 years. So in effect the NFC championship game was the real super bowl. In my opinion the 49ers had the least talent of the following teams from top to bottom: Bears, Redskins, Giants. The Giants had the most transformative devensive player: Lawrence Taylor. The 85 Chicago Bears had the most complete roster of dominance since the 1970's Steelers. And the Washington Redskins had the greatest offensive line ever. That's the conference of champions Joe Montana had to face, and let me be clear, they were multiple champions no less with the Giants and Redskins. Bill Walsh's talent was play calling. Bill Parcell's talent was telling his guys to do what was nessessary to take out Joe Montana. Cause Joe was bloodless in that he didn't rattle. Ever. In the '89 NFC title game Giant defensive tackle Leonard Marshall grabbed Montana's arm and snapped it. As great as the NY Giants were, they couldn't beat Joe Montana and Jerry Rice straight up. Bill Walsh retired too soon. But he and George Sefiert got it in their stupid heads that Joe had to be replaced by Steve Young. Now Steve Young is in the hall of fame, and he did beat the Chargers in '95 but he was foolish to force Montana out. He runs right into the Dallas Cowboys and Green Bay which ended his playoff runs and gave him the concussions and shortened his career. Yeah Steve Young could run, but he wasn't close to Montana in overall ability.
Joe, hope you still get out and do some fly fishing. I know your dad enjoyed it.
Class act..
I see there has been 4 raiders fans with thumbs down joe is and was the man
Kinda funny, Joe commented on sharing an apartment w Dwight, that they didn’t get the big money that they do today! Joes only worth 80m!. As a chiefs fan, I love Mahomes, but there was something about Joe that’s only Joe. Perhaps it’s his humility on the field.
I think he looks better now than when he was younger, love the white hair
Always Joe 😎 Cool 👍 That had to be so hard 💪🏼
Montana is the greatest quarterback ever. Dan Marino the greatest pure passer ever , Montana Is better than Brady? Imagine Montana and Marino in today's NFL in their Prime Wow. Play Watch the video on Dan Marino, Joe Montana Jim Kelly. And Joe Namath says it all there.
I saw this skinny little kid from Pennsyvania throw no look passes before it was fashionable cause all I could afford we're end zone tickets at Candlestick. Joe could move into the pocket and throw the ball 50 yards and it was right there.....I have seen magic.....
Zachary Hopkins -850.....
While Tom Brady has had the greatest career of any football player if you asked Tom Brady who his favorite football player is, he would say Joe Montana.
49ers should have traded steve young. no offense to him or jimmy g but brady and montana had earned their spot.
IM A BOYS FAN FROM AUSTIN TEXAS, JOE KOOL IS TRULEY A COWBOY KILLER AND THE BEST QB TO EVER LACE THEM UP RIP DWIGHT
Interesting
Hayward
Wow
Not a great place then and
Now
Thanks Joe and Dwight
IF JOE QB IN 2020 SUPERBOWL THE NINERS WOULD HAVE WON!!
Dallas is STILL pissed about "The Catch"
Montana would have 10 superbowl rings if he was protected by the league like Brady is
SO TRUE!!! Tuck rule... LOL!!! Brady=Fake goat
And if he didn't get traded to a no talent receiving core like Kansas City had. I really, really wish it wasn't Montana that got traded.
You are fuckin right on target!
Gabriel W Willie Davis and JJ Birden are gonna downvote this comment
Your wife does look good lol
As a former Steelers fan. Back when I was a kid, Terry Bradshaw was the man. Joe has came close to be his equal. Both 4 time super champs. Terry still has my pic.
Today's NFL has nothing to yesteryear.
Take a knee.
😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Do you remember Nikolay Levashov? The one who helped but was betrayed?
7 Cowboys did not like this video.
Joe was great because he was in the right system with Bill Walsh.
There's not been a successful quarterback in the NFL that didn't have the right system.
Maybe Joe should consider to train Jimmy G teach him his foot work and his scrambling skills that Jimmy G is lacking consider it a pass on down from Bill Walsh paying it forward if you will
Looks like he was a brawling boxer with that nose. He would not have lost to Eli but likely would've lost to the Hawks.