Mahler - Symphony No. 8 in E-flat major (Erin Wall, Christoph Eschenbach, Orchestre de Paris)

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  • @TheLastOfTheFinest80
    @TheLastOfTheFinest80 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    A day without Mahler is like a day wasted.

  • @saidtheactress
    @saidtheactress ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you TH-cam for not dropping the usual advertising cow patties all over this magnificent concert video.

    • @_rstcm
      @_rstcm 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cow Patties! 🤣

  • @BenEmberley
    @BenEmberley 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Some of the most glorious music Mankind has ever constructed

  • @trevorjones3273
    @trevorjones3273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    So tragic that Erin Wall has been taken by Cancer. May she rest in peace.

    • @tristanberger8500
      @tristanberger8500 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      and Annette Jahns too... even in the same year.

  • @PinkCrocodile
    @PinkCrocodile ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I think this is my most favorite interpretation of Mahler Symphony no 8

  • @sanman42
    @sanman42 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Unforgettable Erin

  • @scottmiller6495
    @scottmiller6495 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Incredible and unbelievably good! Mahler and Eschenbach perfect together Bravo !!!!!

  • @dukestravels1861
    @dukestravels1861 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I can't imagine being in the midst of this performance. Beyond words.

  • @johnmyers466
    @johnmyers466 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Many years ago I saw Eschenbach do this with the mighty Chicago symphony. It remains forever in my memory as the greatest concert experience of my life.

  • @hugoaragor967
    @hugoaragor967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Extraordinary soloists, great conduction, Essenbach as usual, very inspired and correct.

  • @semrabahcivan8627
    @semrabahcivan8627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Breathtaking performance thank you so much to all of you

  • @matteor.7439
    @matteor.7439 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    One of the most inspired, expressive Mahler 8 of all time. Eschenbach have undertsand totally this piece. i can listen, now, only this interpetation.

    • @johnvaughan7096
      @johnvaughan7096 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm also listening to Marc Albrecht but, yes, Christoph has a very deep human touch.

    • @stevechevis3158
      @stevechevis3158 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I sang in this and in Marc Albrecht’s performance. Albrecht any day, this one just didn’t measure up.

    • @colinwrubleski7627
      @colinwrubleski7627 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Quite the range of opinions on the merits of this one...

  • @richardwilliams473
    @richardwilliams473 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Mahler s music was Heavenly!!!

  • @ddbbel5654
    @ddbbel5654 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    My tears down when reading the comments which suddenly pop-ups that Erin was gone 😢😢😢😢, like her singing so much. Was seeing her in other concert. RIP Erin ❤❤❤❤❤. I immediately downloaded this great version to remember Erin

  • @orenanpablo
    @orenanpablo 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I loved every fermata he did on the coda.

  • @richardwilliams473
    @richardwilliams473 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The 2 female singers at the end are SUPERB!!!!

    • @GRANITEDAME
      @GRANITEDAME ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What a trouper Erin Wall was - she sang T Robinson's top C for her at the end.

  • @jimholder6656
    @jimholder6656 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Nothing short of AWESOME!

  • @marshallartz395
    @marshallartz395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    ✨✨Gustav Mahler (1860-1911)✨✨
    ✨ Symphony No. 8 *(1906)* ✨
    00:01 *Introduction*
    Part 1️⃣
    Hymnus: Veni, Creator Spiritus
    02:06 _Veni, creator spiritus!_
    03:31 _Imple superna gratia [7]_
    07:41 _Infirma nostri sensibus [19]_
    09:29 *Tempo I (Allegro, etwas hastig) [23]*
    10:59 _Infirma nostri corporis [30]_
    13:49 _Accende lumen sensibus [37]_
    14:55 _Hostem repellas longius [42]_
    18:27 _Spiritus, veni, creator spiritus [63]_
    19:21 _Qui Paraclitus diceris [69]_
    22:45 *Wieder frisch [81]*
    23:03 _Gloria Patri Domino [83]_
    25:19 _End of Part I (applause)_
    Part 2️⃣
    Final Scene from Goethe’s “Faust”
    _A wilderness of forest and rock, with holy_
    _anchorites living in clefts up and down_
    _the mountainside._
    0:25:40 *Poco adagio [1]*
    0:32:12 *Più mosso (Allegro Moderato) [14]*
    0:36:18 _Waldung, sie schwankt heran [24]_
    0:40:33 _Ewiger Wonnebrand [32]_
    0:42:26 _Wie Felsenabgrund mir_
    _zu Füßen [38]_
    0:47:25 _Geretet ist das edle Glied [55]_
    0:48:25 _Jene Rosen, aus den Händen [63]_
    0:50:28 _Uns bleibt die Erdenrest [76]_
    0:51:13 _Kein Engel trennte [78]_
    0:52:08 _Ich spur’ soeben [81]_
    0:52:45 _Hier ist die Aussicht frei [84]_
    0:53:31 _Höchste Herrscherin der Welt [89]_
    0:58:22 *Äußert langsam. [106]*
    0:59:23 _Dir, der Unberührbaren [109]_
    1:02:04 _Bei der Liebe, die den Füßen [117]_
    1:03:16 _Bei dem Bronn, zu dem_
    _schon weiland [121]_
    1:05:05 _Bei dem hoch geweihten Orten_
    _[128]_
    1:06:19 _Die du großen Sünderinnen [136]_
    1:07:49 _Neige, neige du Ohnegleiche [149]_
    1:08:49 _Er überwächst uns schon [154]_
    1:10:08 _Vom edlen Geisterchor_
    _umgeben [164]_
    1:12:06 _Komm! Komm! Hebe dich zu_
    _hören Sphären [172]_
    1:13:48 _Blicket auf [176]_
    1:19:33 *Langsam [199]*
    1:20:46 _Alles Vergängliche [202]_
    1:27:44 *Applause and Credits*
    *Soloists:*
    *Erin Wall, Twyla Robinson, Marisol Montalvo,*
    *Annette Jahns, Nikolai Schulhoff, Franco Pomponi, Denis Sedov*
    *Chorus: Credits for the various choirs are listed in the video beginning at:* 1:28:33
    Orchestre de Paris
    Christoph Eschenbach, conductor
    *Palais Omnisports de Paris • Bercy*
    *Paris, France 🇫🇷 March 2008*

  • @rphcomposer
    @rphcomposer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    absolutely nailed the high C

    • @Porn05Mouth
      @Porn05Mouth 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Which one? There are like 900 of them.

  • @mcaito
    @mcaito 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    53:48 When the players are feeling it.

  • @laurentbidault7992
    @laurentbidault7992 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Best version 😢

  • @areyounatz
    @areyounatz 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Everything is just perfection

  • @matheuslino1651
    @matheuslino1651 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bravo, bravo. Viva, Mahler.

  • @parkthoven
    @parkthoven 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a majestic finale~~!

  • @1968KWT
    @1968KWT 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    RIP Erin Wall 💔

  • @1968KWT
    @1968KWT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Premiered exactly 111 years ago! 💐💐💐

  • @sheldonsheldon4412
    @sheldonsheldon4412 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sublime

  • @princesslirio4684
    @princesslirio4684 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Di ako nandito para makipag away, andito ako para sa module

  • @thomask1424
    @thomask1424 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nicely done, very crisp with lovely singing from the soloists. A bit too drawn out at the very end but otherwise a great performance. Great sound, too.

    • @RaZorasiangamer
      @RaZorasiangamer ปีที่แล้ว

      I actually like the drawn out ending, but it did seem a bit out of sync

  • @peterwimsey1
    @peterwimsey1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    huge performing space. The back of the chorus looks half a mile away

    • @peterfan7121
      @peterfan7121 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I don't know how many video cameras there to switch to capture the details.I was a camera man in the church. The recording team( video compose and sound) did great job besides the great music . Bravo! A master piece I ever seen.

  • @alessandroberchielli8472
    @alessandroberchielli8472 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    R.I.P. Mrs Wall...

  • @2009Guillaume
    @2009Guillaume 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ce n'est pas la salle Pleyel, c'est le stade de Bercy, ce n'est pas en 2006 mais en 2008

  • @anatahan2
    @anatahan2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    1:25:56 (score m.1505) is strange. chorus is too long. they should end with orchestra. which version?

    • @hillcresthiker
      @hillcresthiker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Absolutely- this sounds ridiculously out of synch!

  • @MewsikMaker
    @MewsikMaker 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    A good tune.

    • @marshallartz395
      @marshallartz395 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Quite an understatement, that. 😎🎹

  • @rphcomposer
    @rphcomposer 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wait ,what the heck happened at 1:24:57. Can someone explain this

    • @lucas__machado
      @lucas__machado 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Strange...don't know if the orchestra stopped too early or If the choir continued for too long but there's definitely something wrong

    • @Porn05Mouth
      @Porn05Mouth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      That IS weird! He clearly cut them off. It sounded like a choir patch on a keyboard got stuck. I wonder if it was sweetened... or maybe it was just an odd musical choice to have the soprani hold over the pause.

    • @kevincalderon6807
      @kevincalderon6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      it was just a fermata, or a cauldron that they placed between those two phrases to give more emphasis and drama to the high point of the coda of this same work, since that is where it is most exciting, I loved it

    • @oldsnwbrdr
      @oldsnwbrdr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It IS strange… but I kinda liked it!

    • @jakesmith3724
      @jakesmith3724 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Nothing strange what-so-ever. How he views this moment is simply a tension point which he prolongs to add for a more dramatic and emotional effect. It is absolutely outstanding as it opens our eye (and ears) to a moment we have all heard 1000 times, as if it were the first time we heard it. Your confusion is you preparing yourself for the ‘same old’ approach where one could say that this moment is a ‘nuanced/fresh’ approach.

  • @kevincalderon6807
    @kevincalderon6807 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i can't believen that im know to Erin Wall after of her died :c

  • @mariorossi9655
    @mariorossi9655 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1:24:31

  • @Dylonely_9274
    @Dylonely_9274 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I. 2:06
    II. 25:40

  • @1968KWT
    @1968KWT 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    23:59-24:06

  • @ianislios
    @ianislios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At last a nice interpretation in HiFi sound on TH-cam. For example, I consider nice Sinopoli 's as well. It lacks sound quality though.

  • @ianislios
    @ianislios 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the feeling that it's a 2008 concert. Not 2006.

    • @michaelwall8234
      @michaelwall8234 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Actually, I believe the concert was in 2007, sometime during the summer. Erin and Twyla recorded it with Boulez in Berlin in April, 2007. This concert took place shortly after that recording. When Erin showed up to the first rehearsal, whoever was scheduled for soprano I had cancelled due to illness. The other soloists were asked for recommendations for someone who could fill in on very short notice. Since Erin had just worked with Twyla on the recording, Erin picked up her cell phone and called Twyla right on the spot. Twyla was free, so Eschenbach had the company engage her and she was in Paris the next day for the remaining rehearsals and concert. These things do happen and usually it works out well.

    • @MarshallArtz007
      @MarshallArtz007 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes. March 2008 😎🎹

  • @lj291261
    @lj291261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Schukoff is a very good tenor. Eschenbach let's it play a bit too slow.

  • @matteor.7439
    @matteor.7439 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where i can find the cd of this?

  • @oldsnwbrdr
    @oldsnwbrdr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This conductor is getting paid by the hour.

    • @mikewalsh5631
      @mikewalsh5631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Begins to lose cohesion when it’s too dragged out.

  • @faithquenniemodanza1896
    @faithquenniemodanza1896 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pano to iexpress through drawing?😭
    #module

  • @benjaminfalcone2074
    @benjaminfalcone2074 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:11:54

  • @ricarleite
    @ricarleite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Odd choices by the conductor but I like it. Good Mahler 8th.

  • @lowelynbaes1566
    @lowelynbaes1566 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My MAPEH subject brought me here

  • @renzo6490
    @renzo6490 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I put the playback speed up to 1.25...tighter, more forceful.

  • @lorenzoborgognoni
    @lorenzoborgognoni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The end is extremely slow, the brass is extremely difficult in a heavy symphony like this. The best remains Abbado.

    • @oldsnwbrdr
      @oldsnwbrdr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It’s not just the end that’s slow, I heard parts in the middle that were slow and it sounded like the singers were having a hard time keeping time. The glacial ending is just awful.

  • @blueeyedbehr
    @blueeyedbehr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    very bad recording. quite blah. the harps, piano, & celesta were almost absent at 1:18:50, among many other omissions. and the swooping camera angles are ridiculous. we are here for the music, not trying to over-impress already impressive music with silly pseudo-dramatic camera swoops.
    the music speaks for itself. mahler's amazing lily doesnt need any gilding.

  • @alessandroberchielli8472
    @alessandroberchielli8472 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    peccato perché una bella direzione così avrebbe avuto bisogno di un Dr Marianus di livello....cast ottimo, coro e orchestra pure...poteva essere davvero un'edizione di livello assoluto se avesse avuto un tenore migliore, tra l'altro in questo capolavoro proprio per il tenore sono state composte alcune delle frasi più belle della storia della musica...un'invocazione come lo jungfrau così stiracchiata non si può proprio sentire

  • @thomask1424
    @thomask1424 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Eschenbach kind of looks like Dr Evil.

  • @Emilien-hy3sy
    @Emilien-hy3sy 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the ending is so so slow

  • @fmyoung
    @fmyoung 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is the ultimate "sing"-phony!

  • @ediccartman7252
    @ediccartman7252 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Very good performance, you really can see how people are devoted to what they're doing on the stage..BUT from the very beginning of the 2nd part, you feel the conductor is just running out of ideas. Zero tension and awkwardness of orchestral solo, and after, when the singers' solos come , Eschenbach just doesn't let them express themselves. You can't conduct this music in such a geometrical style. And the final is so insanely slow, you feel like at the funerals, instead of ascension, like it must be. Very fundamental and disappointing performance at the same time.

  • @stevechevis3158
    @stevechevis3158 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I was in the adult choir for this. It was seriously underwhelming. Far better performances under Colin Davis, Rattle, Abbado, MTT, Marc Albrecht.

    • @hillcresthiker
      @hillcresthiker 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rattle and abbado yes!

  • @seanangelobenavente8877
    @seanangelobenavente8877 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bland

  • @porcinet1968
    @porcinet1968 ปีที่แล้ว

    a rather incoherent, faulty, poorly sung and shouty performance and what was that weird holding of the soprano and alto notes just before 1'29'55" there's no "hold these notes after a long ritard as if there were an extra bar there before the last big statement of "alles vergangliche" in the score (rehearsal number 213 if you have the score handy) - Chailly in Leipzig or Lucerne, Solti, Bernstein, Abbado and Rattle are all better than this. The Chailly Lucerne Mahler 8 has unfortunate singing from the 2 solo sopranos but has the stunning Peter Mattei owning the concert with his "Ewige wonnebrand" solo which is impeccably sung and characterised.

    • @porcinet1968
      @porcinet1968 ปีที่แล้ว

      and Chailly gets better orchestral ensemble and expression than this fairly clumsy lumpy performance

    • @jakesmith3724
      @jakesmith3724 ปีที่แล้ว

      Disagree

  • @shanemckenna9416
    @shanemckenna9416 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is one of the worst performances of this work I’ve ever heard. Have you heard Simon Rattle and the NYO? Far better.

    • @jakesmith3724
      @jakesmith3724 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Disagree. It’s all a matter of taste.