Mahler: 4. Sinfonie ∙ hr-Sinfonieorchester ∙ Mojca Erdmann ∙ Andrés Orozco-Estrada
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- Gustav Mahler:
4. Sinfonie ∙
I. Bedächtig. Nicht eilen 00:00 ∙
II. In gemächlicher Bewegung. Ohne Hast 17:39 ∙
III. Ruhevoll 27:54 ∙
IV. Sehr behaglich (Sopran-Solo: »Wir genießen die himmlischen Freuden«) 49:41 ∙
hr-Sinfonieorchester - Frankfurt Radio Symphony ∙
Mojca Erdmann, Sopran ∙
Andrés Orozco-Estrada, Dirigent ∙
Alte Oper Frankfurt, 19. Januar 2018 ∙
Website: www.hr-sinfonieorchester.de ∙
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The sound quality here is sublime. With headphones on it's like you're in the concert hall itself.
I agree. The audio is wonderful.
Have you listened to the recent (Dec. 2021) Mahler 4th with Dudamel and the Concertgebouw Orchestra? It is also stunningly well recorded (use those headphones 🎧), and the performance is a joy.
Here’s the link:
th-cam.com/video/SzPZrvz22sk/w-d-xo.html
*(I left very detailed time stamps and the complete 4th movement text in German & English in the comments, if you’re interested.)*
😎🎹
Definitely!
That's what struck me about this performance. There are many fine performances of Mahler's 4th, but the recording engineers contribute almost as much to this one as the musicians.
The first time I've heard Ruhevoll digitally; I'm used to hearing LP noise under it( I buy classical LP's at thrifts). WOW, an extra dimension...so warm, subtle, and sublime.
Orozco-Estrada ist ein herausragender Dirigent mit einem außergewöhnlichen Gespür für das richtige Tempo. Seine beeindruckende Musikerschaft spiegelt sich in jeder Aufführung wider, da er in der Lage ist, das Beste aus jedem Orchester und jedem Musiker hervorzubringen.
what a great orchestra this is!
Mahler dans toute sa splendeur et son lyrisme, un chef et un orchestre exceptionnel, une très grande version!
Not only is it a joy to listen, but in these hard days it's a joy to watch a performance such as this. A great thanks to the orchestra and its marvelous conductor. To all stay save.
Bravissimi e molto bravo anche il Direttore Orozco-Estrada che credo sia molto amato dalla sua orchestra per i suoi modi garbati e gentili! La IV e la V sono per me le più belle sinfonie di Mahler!
0:04 Bedächtig. Nicht eilen
17:39 In gemächlicher Bewegung. Ohne Hast
27:54 Ruhevoll
49:41 Sehr behaglich
ends at 58:48
The first flute player looks exactly like Claude Debussy ♥️
Such a beautiful third movement. And a fine performance by Mojca Erdmann on one of the more difficult short solos in the repertoire!
MARAVILLOSA INTERPRETACION Y LA CANTANTE UNA GENIA TOTAL, BRAVO BRAVO
Superb, a wonderful version. I did not know this conductor, is charismatic, and the orchestra perfectly well tuned. I love this version.
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@@braydenmustafa4478 Andres is our gem here in the Houston, Texas area and unfortunately this is his last season here. Going out with a huge "bang" conducting Mahler's second, can't wait to see it. Best wishes in Vienna!
Agreed!
As an oboe/English Horn player of some 60 years ago , I wish I'd experienced working with A O-E.
This orchestra and this conduct are utterly sublime.
This heavenly symphony is my Mahler favourite. I used to hear my CD with my kids at sleep time. To see this wonderful version has been a nostalgic gift for me. Thanks a lot
First horn is just such a joy to watch and hear
Nog nooit deze perfectie ... het rustige meesterschap, de fijne akoestiek, mooie opnamen... nu pas hoor ik hoe sterk de muziek toe werkt naar de zang, en hoe mooi die kan zijn.
Fantastic quality audio and filming. Not only that, but the timing of the symphony is near perfect...not rushed in anyway, and exactly as GM annotated. Thank you!
Barletta Francesco Roma.Ascoltare la quarta di Malher con questa orchestra è una vera delizia. Malher qui è interpretato e diretto da Estrada molto dettagliatamente, dolcemente è meravigliosamente. Grazie grazie a tutti!!!!! Tanti applausi a scena aperta. Grazie ancora a questa grande orchestra.!!!😊😊😊😊😊😊❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
Ces quelques secondes de silence à la fin de cette symphonie sont sublimes et temoignent le respect du public à ce chef qui font de cette interprétation une version de référence. Admirable voix de contralto qui nous transporte en dehors de ce monde.
Tout à fait d'accord avec vous. Et quel troisième mouvement! Je suis abonné à HR Frankfurt depuis des années et jamais déçu. Petite rectification : Erdmann : je la crois plutôt mezzo. Bonne soirée, cher mélomane.
@@philthefox1948 Merci pour votre réponse, cher Mélomane, vous avez bien sûr raison. je suis moi-même un fidèle auditeur du HR Frankfurt et je trouve que Andrés Orozco-Estrada est un très grand chef. A écouter avec Hilary Hahn dans le concerto de Bruch). Bonne écoute et que la Musique soit avec vous.
This is my most favorite Mahler 4th symphony. Thank you !
Wollte Mahler und bekam ihn auch ! Fantastisch gespielt , ich weiß nicht , ob es überhaupt möglich ist, noch nuancenreicher zu interpretieren, bin begeistert !!
When I happen upon most Mahler symphonies, I am compelled to listen; with the 4th, I am drawn to it.
This presentation introduced so many new episodes, for me anyway, it was my favored Mahler, so heard it many many times, and this was still new. Congratulation is for the Orchestra and especially for the Conductor.
✨✨Gustav Mahler (1860-1911)✨✨
✨ *Symphony No. 4 (1899-1900)* ✨
00:04 I. Bedächtig, nicht eilen
17:40 II. In gemächlicher Bewegung,
ohne Hast
27:55 III. Ruhevoll, poco adagio
49:41 IV. Sehr behaglich
58:54 *Applause*
Mojca Erdmann, Soprano
Frankfurt Radio Symphony
Andrés Orozco-Estrada, conductor
*Alte Oper*
*Frankfurt, Germany 🇩🇪 January 19, 2018*
So good, it almost hurts 😳
Fantastic ! Pure emotion.
This orchestra makes me want to move to Frankfurt!
Splendid performance! I was surprised that this great symphony wasn't scored for trombones or tuba
Oh! Surprising given how much Mahler typically relies on brass.
Stupendous! Bravo! I’ve been listening to this symphony 25+ years, yet in this account I heard details I’ve missed before. Wonderful clarity, and emphasis on its Haydnesque orchestral writing! 😀
(Opera, silent ending)
0:05 begins | 1:28 playful transition | 5:24 repeat intro | 6:24 march flute | 9:42 build up | 9:46 trumpet celebration
11:21 build up | 11:25 trumpet celebration | 17:41 2nd movement (no action) | 27:56 3rd movement
46:22 magical triumph | 49:42 4th movement | 50:17 singing begins |
Everyone was superb and maestro Andres is the new supernova in the conductors’ firmament! Wunderbar. Danke Schon!
Beautiful performance. Thank You All~!!!
Belíssima versão 👏👏👏 Daria orgulho ao grande, genial e imortal Mahler.
Beautifully expressive rendering of this magical music.
Superb.
I love the ending of the first movement
Grandísima orquesta, no sé como no tiene más visitas. Orozco-Estrada ha nacido para dirigir Mahler y José Luis García Vegara sublime como siempre al oboe. Su interpretación en 29:51 y 32:57 son un pedacito del cielo en la tierra. Bravo por todos!
10:16 Who knew sleigh bells could actually sound DARK?
Das war hervorragend! Wollte das eigentlich nur mal kurz anklicken, weil mir grad nicht so nach Mahler 4 war, und war dann aber von Anfang bis Ende gefesselt. Herzlichen Dank!
the encore of static was beautiful
Mesmerizing performance. So beautiful!
Felicitaciones Sinfoniorchester. Una de las mejores orquestas! Y, en mi opinión, Andrés Orozco-Estrada es el mejor Director actual. Ni Gergiev, ni otros que se llevan la fama, está a la altura músical , de motivación de estos grandes músicos, ni como gran director. Enhorabona a tots!! Y a Frankfurt
Totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Esta orquesta es impresionante, principalmente por la absoluta precisión que tiene con los tiempos. Casi preferiría alguna nota equivocada que una desincronización entre los distintos componentes. Aquí no ocurre ninguna de las dos cosas. Perfección!
The third movement hits so hard😩
Wundervoll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Was für eine wundervolle und hochwertige Live- Aufnahme dieser beeindruckenden Sinfonie. Danke
Oops that I
violin excerpts
before r24 - end of 1st mov 15:10
mov 2: r13-r14 18:25
mov 3 r9-r11: 42:44
SO BEAUTIFUL!! BRAVO BRAVO ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Stunning!
Just gorgeous.
beautiful passage played by the orchestra: from 35:55 to 38:15 !
This was my very favorite Mahler symphony - before I discovered that they are all my favorites! The Fourth has a charm all its own, however, more delicate, more naive, exemplifying the childlike faith that Christ said is needed to enter Heaven. As depicted here, at 46:22, the first sight of Heaven's splendor may not seem as overwhelming as in Bernstein's New York Philharmonic recording, but Orozco-Estrada throughout emphasizes the work's Classic rather than Romantic aspect, and it works well. The orchestra as always, was excellent, as was soprano Erdmann.
This is the first Mahler symphony I ever heard. I was sixteen and a high school friend who was a musician introduced it to me. I remember the soprano soloist was Jennie Tourel and I think the conductor was Fritz Reiner. I believe the 4th Symphony is the best symphony for a Mahler introduction, maybe the 1st could work.
I so agree with Mr.Woodall. The conductor superbly conveys all the aspects of 'The Heavenly Life' that Mahler gives focus to. The recording as sound is exceptional. There is a haunting beauty of the orchestral playing and direction that is impressive and memorable. I want to hear more from this elegant musical conductor. I understand he has been appointed the LSOs new Guest Conductor so perhaps I will. I will certainly listen to this recording again.
Masterpiece of course.
Beautiful.
Conheço-a faz poucos meses, mas a amo, sem mais palavras.
Grandioso!!!!
Hermosa obra!! A mi gusto puedo escucharla en las cuatro estaciones del año y en todas las horas del día.🎶🌷
말러4번 중에서 이게 제일 마음에 든다. Best!! 좋은 연주 감사합니다. 1시간2분뒤에 지지지직은 옥의티 ㅜㅜ 귀아파요
Great Gustav!
The harp sounds so great at 32:11
great video.
War damals life im Konzert, seitdem hab ich die Vierte Mahler schätzen gelernt.
Leider weiss ich nicht mehr alle Musiker-Namen, aber immerhin:
1.Vl 1.Pult: U. Edelmann / M. Junghanns
2.Vl 1.Pult: Stefano Succi / ??
Vla 1.Pult:P. Pujanek / D. Niewöhner
Vc 1.Pult: P.-Ph. Staemmler /V. Scharff
KB 1.Pult: B. Furtok
Flöten: S. Wittiber/ B. Hommen-Elsner/ T. Watson/ ??
Oboen: J. L. Garcia Vegara/ ??/ M.Höfele
Clarinetten: ?? / ?? / Ulrich Büsing (Bass-Cl)
Fagotte: R. Sabow/ D. Mohrmann/ M. Roscher (K-Fg)
Hörner: Samuel Seidenberg/ M. Armbruster/ M.Baranowski/ Ch. Petit
Trompeten: B.Nemes/ H.Herrmann/ Maya Helmes
Harfe: Anne-Sophie Bertrand
Pauken: Lars Rapp
1. Klarinette ist Vertretung (spielt eigentlich im Staatsorchester Darmstadt: Michael Schmidt)
Auf der Webseite (hr-sinfonieorchester.de) findet man auch die Namen der Musiker/innen
@@user-br2ts9oe1l Danke! Woher weißt du das? Die meisten Musiker kenn ich auch ohne die Webseite des hr. Aber bei Musikern, die seit einigen Jahren nicht mehr im Orchester sind oder eben bei Aushilfen ist es schwierig die Namen herauszufinden.
@@johannesfruhwein4469 Das stimmt, aber bemerkenswert bei so vielen Namen! Ich hatte bei ihm Unterricht und besuche eigentlich (corona 😒) regelmäßig die Konzerte in Darmstadt :)
MAHERES bEST VERSION,Recommend!!
Beautifully played with some real licence given to the senior players. Beautifully sung and presented also by Mojca - if she's in her early forties, I am a hot cross bun!
She was born in 1975, which makes her 46 today (June 2022)
Only that the child was starved to death before entering "heaven", and the last movement was the child's last wish before death. Indeed, all the childlike things just make this fact more heart-breaking. I believe this is the one that marks the dark turn of Mahler symphonies.
I believe Leonard Bernstein felt that Mahler's symphonies prefigure the Holocaust. That may be reading too much into the music, but Mahler was a brilliant and sensitive man who may have had a horrible vision,
@@murrayaronson3753honestly that’s a good take. He even predicted his child dying and it happened. The fifth funeral March, the sixth symphony in general can easily be a prediction to the horrible events of the Holocaust
Qué orgullo tan grande.
COOL!!!
This orchestra’s performance of Mahler’s fifth is also excellent and deserves a listen!
This orchestra is really wonderful.
Peace and Much Groove.
The sixth is also tops for performance and sound quality. This conductor and orchestra bring out the best in mahler.
Que sonidazo del 💪📯bravo
One of the most beautiful and moving musical works, I’m very drawn to in these heightened times, but the lyrics include the innocent lamb brought up to slaughter. How barbaric, disturbing but it’s still beautiful heavenly music drawing us into higher realm than the dark spots
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Kein' Musik ist ja nicht auf Erden,
Die unsrer verglichen kann werden...
Die englischen Stimmen
Ermuntern die Sinnen,
Daß alles für Freuden erwacht.
The “angelic” voices. Google Translate still needs some fine tuning!
👼🏻👼🏻👼🏻
10:14 Interesting motif there Mahler…
Nice catch!
第一乐章（I. Bedächtig. Nicht eilen）：从00:00开始
这一乐章以Bedächtig（深思熟虑）的指示开篇，呈现出缓慢、内省的氛围。音乐的开端充满了宁静，主题以轻柔的木管乐器和弦乐开启。在约17分39秒处，乐章达到高潮，表现出音乐的张力。这一段落揭示了马勒对于生命的深刻思考和内省。
第二乐章（II. In gemächlicher Bewegung. Ohne Hast）：从17:39开始
这个乐章以In gemächlicher Bewegung（轻松的运动）的指示开始，呈现出一种优雅、轻快的舞曲氛围。音乐节奏明快，旋律流畅，带有一种活泼的节奏感。在27分54秒处，乐章进入第三部分，旋律更加明快活跃，呈现出一种愉悦的氛围。
第三乐章（III. Ruhevoll）：从27:54开始
Ruhevoll（宁静）是这个乐章的指示，表现出一种平静、安详的氛围。音乐缓慢流畅，充满了内省和深沉的情感。在49分41秒处，乐章达到高潮，展现出一种充满力量和情感的音乐氛围。
第四乐章（IV. Sehr behaglich）：从49:41开始
这一乐章以Sehr behaglich（非常愉悦）的指示开始，呈现出一种欢快、愉悦的氛围。音乐轻快流畅，带有一种欢乐的节奏感。在最后的Sopran-Solo部分，“Wir genießen die himmlischen Freuden”（我们享受天堂的乐趣）以优美的旋律和歌词展现了一种幸福和满足的情感。
通过对每个乐章的结构和特点的深入了解，可以更好地体会马勒第四交响曲所表达的情感和思想。同时，与hr-Sinfonieorchester的演奏以及Andrés Orozco-Estrada的指挥相结合，将会为您带来一场丰富而深刻的音乐体验。
"Mojca" is officially listed as a soprano but what is a Mahlerian soprano? They need an incredible range, and this young Hambergerin is very powerful. I'll be watching her career. Of course rf does a stellar job of 4.
Orgullo colombiano
😄 nice outro with harsh noise at 1:02:20. i wonder who played it.
좋습니다.
I have seen him many times and had the same thought, just like Claude Debussy.
Other performances he's in comments are consistent(Debussy is in the house;)
Peace and Much Groove
Conducting better than vienna,Chicago,Berlin Phil
Does anyone notices the glitch error sound in 1:02:21 ?
44:04
Silly of me, but the handsome 1st Flute looks a little like Debussy (or Dukas)!
I agree with u. From the very first moment I saw him thought he was Debussy reincarnation,
Other performances he's in comments are consistent(Debussy is in the house;)
Peace and Much Groove
there's lots of white noise starting at 1:02:20 😢. Other than that absolutely beautiful piece.
1:02:17 oh god that hurt
YEAH WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
An electronic/digital white noise during the upload? Luckily not a problem during the music. 😎🎹
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말러_4번 교향곡
편성 : 소프라노, 비교적 소편성 오케스트라
Sleigh bells 처음에 나옴
성탄절을 의미
성탄절에 배가 고팟나(?)
해피하게 시작하지만 뒤로갈수록 슬픔
4악장 Das Himmelliche Leben(천상의 삶)
거룩 홀리 이런게 아니고 결국 먹고사는게 중요하다는 늬양스
위에서 밑에를 바라보는…
식사를 준비하는
야채가 자라나는~
굉장히 묘사적이다!(바그너의 유도동기처럼)
irdische Leben(지상의 삶)
배고파 - 기다려 - 아기 죽음
10:14 is that a wagner's reference
It's from his fifth. It is possible that he had the idea for fifth while composing.
The Heavens open up at 46:24 !!!
A great performance by the symphony, but a lot of very questionable camera work. So many interesting things were missed while the cameras were focusing on trivial stuff. Take the glissandi in the low strings at the end of the 2nd movement, for example. Visually fun to watch, yet totally ignored in favor of watching the clarinets sustaining notes.
stromberg an der 1. klarinette :D
lol :D
It's rather obvious that Mahler is more cerebral than emotive. His use of sound is more to do with the idea of music and less to do with the feelings it might engender. I find it strange that so many feel drawn to his music to the degree they are.
What do you mean? Mahler is highly emotional - on a cerebral level, if that makes sense.
What a weird comment - Mahler is all emotion unlike what my grandson calls the 'diddly-dee' composers. And where does emotion come from? The brain, of course, the cerebrum and cerebellum, particularly the limbic system. Have you ever seen an emotive stone???
I couldn't disagree more ... Mahler evokes so much emotion so much if the time.
Agree with the replies here. I hear all sorts of human sounds or sounds that easily evoke feelings by synaesthesia: happy sighs, wistful sighs, laughs, catchy rhythms, wails, shrieks, stabs of fear, terrifying crescendi, roars of chaos, manic accelerandi, tentativenesd, reckless abandon.
O. K., I've been listening to Mahler for 45 years, but who is this guy, and who is this band? Seriously. I've listened to the 3rd for said number of years, but I swear, I never HEARD it until these people kindly played me the REAL 3rd this afternoon. What sorcery is this, when AOE/Frankfurt can make my man Mahler sound so vastly better than he is already? Mein Gott! I WILL be back.
4th actually . . . but yeah, I understand the sentiment . . .
Maybe you meant the 3rd MOVEMENT?
@@brianwilliamsart Sorry to get back to everyone so late! I MEANT that I had listened to the Third earlier that day and, after I had gathered my lower jaw from off the floor, I had to go looking for another example of this magic, to see if AOE/Frankfurt's 3rd was just a fluke. It wasn't.
L'inizio del primo movimento dialoga un pochettino con Mozart, no?
Is there a way we can know the names of musicians?
Go check their website
Nowhere in the whole piece are the low brass missing more than 46:22. That explosion is not nearly loud enough.
That might be because the only low brass in the symphony are the horns-the trombones and tuba are absent.
Mahler originally wanted to add trombones and tuba for just that moment, but he couldn't bring himself to.
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At 46:40 we see the soprano sneak onto the stage .The cameras should have not shown that
I heard many instruments --- where was the orchestra?
If you didn’t know, Mahler generally orchestrates his symphonies as chamber orchestras where different soloists come out at different times to play different themes together, and usually only has the full orchestra blaring out at climaxes, so this is exactly how it’s meant to be done. Moreover, Mahler 4 is considered a rather tame symphony as compared to his other symphonies as it is almost entirely based on the poem of Das himmlische Leben in the set of poems called Das Knaben Wunderhorn. Bravo to FRSO and Maestro Orozco Estrada for this amazing recording. Definitely one of my go-to modern 21st century recordings of Mahler 4
@@Yulin-to9zx Des Knaben Wunderhorn. Possessive.
1:41
vorsicht um 1:02:28
Who is the French horn player?
Hi, Astrid!
That’s Samuel Seidenberg!
Very odd for the soprano to enter while the final measures of the 3rd movement were still playing! Usually she enters before the 3rd movement begins, so is in place for the final movement, because there is no pause between movements.
She enters as the gates of heaven open. She is the angel who interacts with the child. Why she sat is my question.