Our starters are 2s on other teams. We gutted our defense during the off season. Jackson, Luvu, Chinn, Burns, all gone. What did you expect? Then add Derek Brown and Shaq Thompson out
I came here to say EXACTLY this. Did people already forget we had a top 5 defense under Evero before they fire sale got rid of our better players? With this team building a winning culture, we'll have better options in free agency.
They didn’t want to comeback to play in his system. Ejiro chose players that fit his scheme. The defense last year had the same issues last year the only reason why the defense yards allowed were decent is because the offense was giving the ball away giving the other teams shorter fields to work with.
When we spent a ton of money and draft to fix the offense, I knew the defense was going to be bad (wasn’t expecting this bad though). It’s going to be hard to fix this defense unless Evero is gone, or he has a come to Jesus meeting and understands he has to get more aggressive and put players in position to play to their strengths. Opponents don’t throw to Horn because they know he’s a top 15-20 CB in the league who is going to make a play. They throw the other way, who is almost always drawing the teams best or 2nd best receiver. Sorry but Mike Jackson is only so good. And why are they playing off coverage when teams run the ball on us? Evero has to step up his scheme or needs to go. Get us back to 4-3 and get us some players this offseason.
Sorry, I just don't buy pinning the blame on Evero. They busted up the defense to pay for most of the mistakes of Fitter / Rhule regime and gave Evero nothing to work with. Most of the players on the defense wouldn't have even made a .500 team, much less start for them. Getting better includes consistency in the staff as well as upper management and we have had neither. A new DC is just starting all over again, again. Thanks for the viewpoint, but I just don't see Evero being the key to fixing this. Which is why I'm sure Tepper will fire him and make some splashy hire that upsets any positive culture we may have created.
Yea well, I bet Evero gets an HC gig anyways. I dont think the defensive struggles are his fault but i do forsee a new DC next year no matter what. Whether he gets let go or he takes over another team
Wviro is really good , we just need to draft the top dt in the draft and go to a 4 -3 scheme , draft well and pickup sime high quality starters and extend who needs to be extended also.
And what people need to realize is as good as Bryce is playing now that’s why his stats aren’t great. Defense doesn’t get off the field to give offense more possessions!
It's time to draft another stud DT and switch back to the 4-3 with or without EE.. We can't win giving up that many yards, if Conner didn't get hurt we probably lose last week.
The defense is trash. The lack of an adjustments by Ejiro Eviro is bad and it has caused us a few games this year.. Face it he has to go. Before yall say Derrick brown this personnel that. Remind you the offense gave the ball away a lot which gave other teams good field advantage which is why the defense was good statically. However they still couldn’t stop the run last year and the defense was still ranked last in red zone defense. Ejiro really should have been fired 5 games ago.
It is he had better personnel last year and the run defense was still bad. The only reason why the panthers ranked high on defense is because the offense was giving teams shorter fields.
@trevaughnisom8618 what talent... Frankie luvu, chinn and burns? Please...i can agree on run defense but still there has been very little talent on Defense past 2 years. We over performed last year without Horn and Shaq and lost all pass rush. We have DJ johnson and Barno as ends give me a break.
You do realize that we broke the record for most rushing yards allowed in a season right? Idgaf if high schoolers are on the team that is unacceptable. Ps the record was broken weeks ago 😂
Is it the defensive coordinator? Or is it the lack of talent on the defense? I'm not counting Evero out. And there are plenty of Panthers podcasters who agree. Go back to the 4 - 3
That’s because the offense turned over the ball and gave shorter fields to the opposing team. The red zone defense last year was ranked at the bottom of the league
Man a defensive stop is a defensive stop weather the other team kicks a field goal or not. If offense take the field 1 series and don't score. Why blame defense when the opposing team was able to make 3 points but our offense didn't 🤦 that leaves the fans on the 2nd defensive series praying for defense to make a interception or a fumble. Now if you to like me and want those but understand football 🤔I don't care to have them. So if defense makes another defensive stop or still keep the other team scoring another field goal and the offense get back on the field and get a three and out or even a field goal🤔 you still down by 3 and still praying for defense to cover the sloppy play from offense 🤦 but yet nobody calls out offense for having less time on the then defensive to not score 7 the 2 time defense made 2 stops for offense. So many game our defense made stops like the cowboys game and what happened first series? BRYCE FUMBLES THE BALL IN REDZONE 🤦 NOW YALL PRAYING ON DEFENSE TO MAKE A STOP AND WHEN DEFENSE DO AND THE OFFENSE DONT SCORE AND THE OPPOSING TEAM DOES THE NEXT DRIVE YALL MAD AT DEFENSE 😂😂😂😂OR THE OTHER OVERTIME GAME WHEN IN OVERTIME DEFENSE MADE A CRUCIAL STOP IN OVERTIME AND BRYCE YOUNG 🤦 TRIPS OVER IS LINEMAN FOOT SO WE HAD TO KICK THE BALL BACK AND DEFENSE MADE ANOTHER STOP AND WHAT HAPPEN OFFENSE GOES DOWN FIELD AND DO NOTHING 😂😂😂IN OVERTIME WE DIDN'T WIN😂 I PLAYED BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL AND EVERY COUCH ALWAYS TOLD ME PLAYING OFFENSE🗣️ NEVER LEAVE IT TO DEFENSE TO SAVE YALL ASSES🤦 OFFENSE IN THE GAME OF FOOTBALL IS WHERE YOUR POINTS SUPPOSE TO COME FROM. YES DEFENSE CAN SCORE BUT THE ODDS ARE SLIM💯 YOULL GET A INTERCEPTION BEFORE A PICK 6 😂BUT WHY NOT SCORE 1ST SO WHEN THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES THATS 2 TOUCHDOWNS ON THE BOARD😂
@trevaughnisom8618 not all the time defense win championships that's a lie when points gotta be put up to win that's a lie to make defense a relevant i never seen a championship won with 0 points on both teams. Someone gotta score 😂
@@trevaughnisom8618 statistically it's been more offense touchdown scores in championship than defensive touchdowns in championship 😂your defense can have 40 turnover but if they or the offense isn't scoring what championship is defense winning 😂
@@trevaughnisom8618 by the way I'm glade you said that🤦 0 to 0 1 min left on clock 4th quarter to win the game would you rather your offense on the field or your defense on the field and it's a championship game 😂 I bet you'll say your offense bc points gotta be scored. Bc even if your defense makes a stop. Your offense won score bc you already got it in there mind they don't gotta win bc defense win championships. so I know as a organization you spend more on your defense then your offense so when your defense play a more explosive offense 🤦 y'all defense going to get picked apart so bad your sorry offense not going to be able to catch up 😂
It depends. If we are talking about the panthers I will have to leave the offense on the field. Because all the defense will do is give up 6yds per play to lead the opposing team to win the game. Like they did against the bucs the chiefs.
Last season it was hard watching the offense on the field. This season it is hard watching the defense on the field.
3-4 is stupid. Not enough hands on the ground to effect the ground attack or QB. Too much space for runners. Doesn't the DC see the set isn't working
It's like the NFL strategy to play the Panthers is run the ball
When derrick brown and shaq was playing we still played trash on 3-4 against the new Orleans saints
Lol those 1st couple games the offense only had like 5 3rd down conversions combined and 5 turnovers
Thank you Dennis for finally calling this tired Defense Coordinator out. Absolute garbage
Our starters are 2s on other teams. We gutted our defense during the off season. Jackson, Luvu, Chinn, Burns, all gone. What did you expect? Then add Derek Brown and Shaq Thompson out
I came here to say EXACTLY this. Did people already forget we had a top 5 defense under Evero before they fire sale got rid of our better players?
With this team building a winning culture, we'll have better options in free agency.
Can't believe they couldn't find a use for Chinn smh
They didn’t want to comeback to play in his system. Ejiro chose players that fit his scheme. The defense last year had the same issues last year the only reason why the defense yards allowed were decent is because the offense was giving the ball away giving the other teams shorter fields to work with.
Change DC for sure. Go with 4-3
Shy Tuttle. The hole in the middle
I thought our defense was going to be amazing this year. Boy was I wrong.
Like how would you even start to change it?
When we spent a ton of money and draft to fix the offense, I knew the defense was going to be bad (wasn’t expecting this bad though). It’s going to be hard to fix this defense unless Evero is gone, or he has a come to Jesus meeting and understands he has to get more aggressive and put players in position to play to their strengths. Opponents don’t throw to Horn because they know he’s a top 15-20 CB in the league who is going to make a play. They throw the other way, who is almost always drawing the teams best or 2nd best receiver. Sorry but Mike Jackson is only so good. And why are they playing off coverage when teams run the ball on us? Evero has to step up his scheme or needs to go. Get us back to 4-3 and get us some players this offseason.
How many 3 and outs do the defense give the offense
Same people complaining about the defense are the same people wanting Carolina to win and lose draft capital.
Sorry, I just don't buy pinning the blame on Evero. They busted up the defense to pay for most of the mistakes of Fitter / Rhule regime and gave Evero nothing to work with. Most of the players on the defense wouldn't have even made a .500 team, much less start for them. Getting better includes consistency in the staff as well as upper management and we have had neither.
A new DC is just starting all over again, again.
Thanks for the viewpoint, but I just don't see Evero being the key to fixing this.
Which is why I'm sure Tepper will fire him and make some splashy hire that upsets any positive culture we may have created.
Yea well, I bet Evero gets an HC gig anyways. I dont think the defensive struggles are his fault but i do forsee a new DC next year no matter what. Whether he gets let go or he takes over another team
So why doesn’t he make adjustments during the game is that because of talents?
Wviro is really good , we just need to draft the top dt in the draft and go to a 4 -3 scheme , draft well and pickup sime high quality starters and extend who needs to be extended also.
All those numbers speak to Derrick Brown being out since week 1
THANK YOU SIR, I'VE BEEN SAYING THIS ALLLLLLLLL SEASON LONG
And what people need to realize is as good as Bryce is playing now that’s why his stats aren’t great. Defense doesn’t get off the field to give offense more possessions!
Need to go back to a 4-3 scheme. Carolina has always had success
Facts 👌
It's time to draft another stud DT and switch back to the 4-3 with or without EE.. We can't win giving up that many yards, if Conner didn't get hurt we probably lose last week.
The defense is trash. The lack of an adjustments by Ejiro Eviro is bad and it has caused us a few games this year.. Face it he has to go. Before yall say Derrick brown this personnel that. Remind you the offense gave the ball away a lot which gave other teams good field advantage which is why the defense was good statically. However they still couldn’t stop the run last year and the defense was still ranked last in red zone defense. Ejiro really should have been fired 5 games ago.
Panthers haven’t stopped run since Tepper made Rivera switch to 3-4
We gotta go back to 4-3!
This is not Evero's fault. Give him some players and they will be strong. Please remember last year when he had some talent.
It is he had better personnel last year and the run defense was still bad. The only reason why the panthers ranked high on defense is because the offense was giving teams shorter fields.
@trevaughnisom8618 what talent... Frankie luvu, chinn and burns? Please...i can agree on run defense but still there has been very little talent on Defense past 2 years. We over performed last year without Horn and Shaq and lost all pass rush. We have DJ johnson and Barno as ends give me a break.
If that’s the case why was the defense better under the Matt Rhule regime. Last time checked they where all there before Ejiro came along.
You do realize that we broke the record for most rushing yards allowed in a season right? Idgaf if high schoolers are on the team that is unacceptable. Ps the record was broken weeks ago 😂
@trevaughnisom8618 yes aware.. your points are valid for sur
Is it the defensive coordinator? Or is it the lack of talent on the defense? I'm not counting Evero out. And there are plenty of Panthers podcasters who agree. Go back to the 4 - 3
It's not that hard, we need a new DC come 2025.
I disagree, out Def was monumentally better last game. It was a top 15 defense, im pretty sure.
That’s because the offense turned over the ball and gave shorter fields to the opposing team. The red zone defense last year was ranked at the bottom of the league
Man a defensive stop is a defensive stop weather the other team kicks a field goal or not. If offense take the field 1 series and don't score. Why blame defense when the opposing team was able to make 3 points but our offense didn't 🤦 that leaves the fans on the 2nd defensive series praying for defense to make a interception or a fumble. Now if you to like me and want those but understand football 🤔I don't care to have them. So if defense makes another defensive stop or still keep the other team scoring another field goal and the offense get back on the field and get a three and out or even a field goal🤔 you still down by 3 and still praying for defense to cover the sloppy play from offense 🤦 but yet nobody calls out offense for having less time on the then defensive to not score 7 the 2 time defense made 2 stops for offense. So many game our defense made stops like the cowboys game and what happened first series? BRYCE FUMBLES THE BALL IN REDZONE 🤦 NOW YALL PRAYING ON DEFENSE TO MAKE A STOP AND WHEN DEFENSE DO AND THE OFFENSE DONT SCORE AND THE OPPOSING TEAM DOES THE NEXT DRIVE YALL MAD AT DEFENSE 😂😂😂😂OR THE OTHER OVERTIME GAME WHEN IN OVERTIME DEFENSE MADE A CRUCIAL STOP IN OVERTIME AND BRYCE YOUNG 🤦 TRIPS OVER IS LINEMAN FOOT SO WE HAD TO KICK THE BALL BACK AND DEFENSE MADE ANOTHER STOP AND WHAT HAPPEN OFFENSE GOES DOWN FIELD AND DO NOTHING 😂😂😂IN OVERTIME WE DIDN'T WIN😂
I PLAYED BOTH SIDES OF THE BALL
AND EVERY COUCH ALWAYS TOLD ME PLAYING OFFENSE🗣️ NEVER LEAVE IT TO DEFENSE TO SAVE YALL ASSES🤦 OFFENSE IN THE GAME OF FOOTBALL IS WHERE YOUR POINTS SUPPOSE TO COME FROM. YES DEFENSE CAN SCORE BUT THE ODDS ARE SLIM💯 YOULL GET A INTERCEPTION BEFORE A PICK 6 😂BUT WHY NOT SCORE 1ST SO WHEN THAT OPPORTUNITY COMES THATS 2 TOUCHDOWNS ON THE BOARD😂
Offense sells tickets defense wins championships if you have played extensively like you said that is the oldest saying in the book.
@trevaughnisom8618 not all the time defense win championships that's a lie when points gotta be put up to win that's a lie to make defense a relevant i never seen a championship won with 0 points on both teams. Someone gotta score 😂
@@trevaughnisom8618 statistically it's been more offense touchdown scores in championship than defensive touchdowns in championship 😂your defense can have 40 turnover but if they or the offense isn't scoring what championship is defense winning 😂
@@trevaughnisom8618 by the way I'm glade you said that🤦 0 to 0 1 min left on clock 4th quarter to win the game would you rather your offense on the field or your defense on the field and it's a championship game 😂 I bet you'll say your offense bc points gotta be scored. Bc even if your defense makes a stop. Your offense won score bc you already got it in there mind they don't gotta win bc defense win championships. so I know as a organization you spend more on your defense then your offense so when your defense play a more explosive offense 🤦 y'all defense going to get picked apart so bad your sorry offense not going to be able to catch up 😂
It depends. If we are talking about the panthers I will have to leave the offense on the field. Because all the defense will do is give up 6yds per play to lead the opposing team to win the game. Like they did against the bucs the chiefs.