Beekeeping: Spring Brood Box Rotation
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- This video demonstrates rotation of the deep brood boxes in the spring, explains why you should rotate them, and and how you determine if they need rotated.
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Nice presentation. Wish my hives look that healthy! Well done.
Thank you Mr. Miles for watching and commenting. I'm so far behind on my beekeeping tasks this year. We are having a cold spell this week, so a few more days before I put on the honey supers. Take care.
this helped me study on my subject i LOVE this thanks for the slow rundown
Glad it helped. There's a couple other videos from later years (and this year) with the same subject (rotating hives)
Thanks for taking the extra time walking us through hive rotation.👍
My pleasure Mr Englund. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Thanks! I was curious when to rotate.
The months are different depending on your location. It's March for central Oklahoma. Thanks for watching.
Cool video! It’s neat to learn about the hives. Ashton says hi Papa Darren.
Thanks! and HI ASHTON!!!!👋
nice work thnx for to share..
Thanks for stopping in Murat. Take care.
def. sugar thats what our bees do with it its like the dont even break it down they just store the sugar where they cluster so they have access when its cold without moving up or down. they are such an amazing insect... keep the videos coming
Collin Morrison good to know. I thought it may have fell in there from the top. Didn’t know they would store the grains. Thanks for watching and commenting. Take care.
Maybe too much smoke
The smoke actually helps quite a bit with those grumpy hives. After you go into the second box though, not much matters. I use the smoke to move the bees away from where I need to work, or to set the boxes down. Thanks for watching and commenting. Take care.
Definitely to much smoke for such a gentle hive
You smoke them a lot. Too much.
When you break down the hive like this, more smoke is needed to keep them inside the box so you don't smash bees. They also get more aggressive when you break the hives apart like this. I don't smoke them like this for normal inspections, unless the hive gets aggressive. I have a couple hives that are pretty rank.
Whoa buddy, Easy on the smoke @@davidwalsh3734
Nice video learned something today 👍
Ray Edwards I’m glad you learned a little something. Thanks for watching and commenting. Take care.
Ray Edwards agree
Sure is a lot of work keeping them bee's in check. Great job done buddy!
It sure is. I didn't get finished in this video, so had about 10 more to do. I finished them off today and I'm tuckered out.
Great Video thanks
Thanks
Great video , I must have missed it before, why do you use those slated racks
Hey Kajun. That's one of my older videos that must have gotten suggested to you. The slatted racks add some space between the brood frames and bottom board, so in the early spring, it's a little warmer there and the queen will be more likely to lay in that area, and later in the summer it provides additional space for the bees in the hive, so less swarm urge. They aren't essential and I don't have them on all my hives, but I think they do add some value. Not sure if it's worth the extra cost though. Thanks for watching.
@@JeromeBeeFarm Thanks had no idea , never seen that before , but makes sense after you explained it , thanks
Great information!! Learn something new everyday....Thanks
Wes Lovelace thanks for watching and commenting. Take care.
fascinating buddy !!
50 shades of green agree
Thanks Simon. We’ve been away a couple weeks. I have a lot of catching up to do.
cheap homesteading thanks for watching and commenting take care.
Does the tin help with shb
Not sure what you mean. The tin on the telescoping lid? I don't think that makes any difference. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Where going to start our notes this year on the blue painters tape on top cover with the sharpie blue tape comes off alot easier than standard duct tape or on side under the cover, anyway looks good . Here in central Alabama our first year didn't fair very well.
Eric's Everything good idea. Does the sharpie stay on the blue tape longer? It was coming off the duct tape after about 45 days.
I avoid all that by not writing anything down, LOL
Pencil on the metal will last as long as u want
What are your thoughts about reducing from 2 deeps back down to one if they are only say 2.5 to 3 frames of brood on the top and the bottom is completely empty of bees and brood? I've always reduced down to one brood box for a few weeks until the population ramps up again and then added the deep back. That is, if I don't have hives around that I want to equalize frames from. Whenever I reverse boxes and the top box is not doing that great coming out of winter, they expand up and ignore the outer frames on the bottom box.
Hey Wild B. That’s a good question. I definitely will reduce down to one box and sometimes take a few frames away because they can’t protect the comb from hive beetles. It also depends on how many hives I e done and how tired I am. lol. Thanks for watching and commenting!
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Tyger K agree
Won't the queen go up and down? What would happen if you didn't switch boxes and just added a honey super?
Bees naturally move upward. If the brood chamber has moved to the top over winter and the bottom is empty I rotate them. It’s common practice for a 2 deep hive setup.
@@JeromeBeeFarm This is only my third year having bees and I have never done that before. This year though the numbers don't seem to be growing. I'll bet that's why. Thank you for your help.
If you have brood in the bottom box in spring, leave them alone. If the bottom is basically empty, then you rotate.
Hi, just one question, what is the purpose of that slatted rack? Thanks.
The slatted rack gives more space between the bottoms of the frames and the bottom board. It basically gives the bees a little more room at the bottom. Helps a little with ventilation and gives them more room. Thanks for watching and commenting.
It seems that alot of people under super. That would not work if they only move up. Dont bees also hang comb from the top, so if you put a super on top there is a chance they start building comb from the bottom. Plz tell me if I should or should not under super.
Sorry, I’ve never heard of under supering before. I always put them on top. My bees usually work their way upwards. If something below them is empty and suitable and they need the space, I think they would use it, but it would probably be used less preferred than above space in the same condition. Also, my honey supers have drawn comb ready to fill.
Where are you located and what was the temperature when you flipped these boxes ?
Zone 7 central Ok. I do this mid March usually and it will be over 60 deg. Usually in the 70s. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Could be varroa excrement. Do an alcohol wash or just treat as a precaution.
TheLongIslandRedneck I treated with OA about. three weeks ago. It’s time to do it again before I put honey supers on.
Jerome Bee Farm & Homestead Oh ok. I've never OA, I prefer Apivar in the spring/fall and formic acid strips after pulling honey supers in July. Love your videos brother, keep up the great work!
I used both of those last year. I had some that I hadn't used and needed to get them used up. I used mite away quick strips (formic acid) and that wasn't too bad. The Apivar strips seemed to get them pretty angry.
My thoughts too, but honestly wouldn't expect to see it that heavy in a HEALTHY Colony... from what I read, and saw in mine, as long as the hive is still thriving, they clean excrement up, it's when they get sick, and weak that it's easily noticeable,, But I also noticed mine had a lot of crystallized honey they ate around, they ate the liquid, and left the crystals
Great video thank you
What’s that slatted rack on the bottom for?
Hey there - love your name. lol The slatted rack give the bees more space away from the bottom board and allows the bees to keep it warmer down low by the entrances and they can build brood closer to the bottom - that's one thing. Basically it gives them more space. Some say it helps with swarming, others say they are a waste of money. lol The first beehive I bought had one, so I thought it was something you always use, but it's optional. I have about ten or so on my 30ish hives. I don't plan on buying any more, and I also plan on going to all solid bottom boards instead of the screen bottom that has the insert to close it off. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Jerome Bee Farm & Homestead What’s ur theory on solid bottom board? Don’t they need the airflow? I keep my ‘sliders’ in oct - March (about 3/4th of the way in most of that time but if I know the temp is going to drop below 30, I’ll push them all the way in.. I live in damp Pacific Northwest. I’m a Newby going on 3 years, so still learning.
@@1wildwackywoman I'm about to decide I like the solids better because none of the Oxalic Acid fumes escape with the solids. The ones with the slide in bottom leak out quite a bit. I really haven't seen any difference between my hives that have solids and the ones with the screens and inserts. It's a real pain painting those screened ones, and they are expensive and flimsy too. I'm not buying any more in the future.
Jerome Bee Farm & Homestead thanks for clarifying that. Bee safe 👍🏼
I harvest honey from the brood nest this time of year. I leave three or four frames to get them through any cold snap that might happen. This gives them more room to raise brood.. The dearth will happen starting April where I live. I actually want my bees to build swarm cells so I can make splits. I remove the second brood box and that increases their chances for building swarm cells.
That’s a good technique if you have a long season. You must live in a southern region. Nectar flows in my area aren’t typically that strong in central Oklahoma. Last year was an exception and I did harvest some deep frames in July. That was one heavy box. lol. Thanks for watching and commenting.
@@JeromeBeeFarm I'm in Southern Colorado. I'm not sure that you have a shorter season. I don't pull the honey out of the brood nest until warm weather. I actually did it yesterday Our Dandelion bloom is the first nectar coming in about two weeks. They have been bringing in pollen for about two weeks and my first inspection was he 11th of March. I move my bees to a huge orchard next week and the fruit trees are the biggest flow and Russian olive 2nd last until mid July.
Oh. I see, you’re talking about honey carried over through winter. I actually had three hives with excessive honey and I spread it around to other hives and added some blank frames. This is the first year I’ve seen this here. In the past, I was always expanding and splitting. Since I’ve got to 20 hives I quit forcing splits. I only split swarming hives now. This is my 7th year.
Most of my hives were still packed with honey, it was hard to flip mine.
OkieRob might need to harvest some and lighten them up.
for sure, I was just wanting to go through all of them first. Finally got that chore done just in time to do it again.
They are a lot of work. No doubt about that.
OkieRobs is that because you live in a warmer state. My hive was light with honey last Nov 2018 and I had to feed them through the winter feeder box all winter right up to the 2nd week in May. We've had a very wet and cold spring by the ocean here in Mass. It was finally a warm enough day and night on Sat (temps have been falling way down at night) to inspect the bottom box. Nothing much in them. The top box has no capped honey and the bees are feeding on the fondant and sugar patties through the feeder box and are finally bringing in nectar. If you are in a warmer state, about how much honey does your bees feed on during the winter months? Just wondering.
Flipping is that something you do every year after the winter.
Yes,if there’s no brood in the bottom. You don’t want to split the brood chamber apart if it’s half on top and half in bottom. If so, don’t swap them.
Wax pencil
TheLongIslandRedneck good idea. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Could not see well but maybe the white crystals (if not sugar) varroa poop? Just throwing it out there as a maybe.
1952toots I think it was granulated sugar. I’ve been treating for varroa pretty regular. Thanks for watching and commenting. Take care.
U give them lot of smoke for sure
Not always. Just depends on their temperament on any given day. Rotation of brood boxes is pretty invasive and gets them very defensive, so I tend to use a lot of smoke for this process. Regular inspections I use far less.
@@JeromeBeeFarm
Yea i noticed same with mine too,also some days are more defensive some not
Tnx man
not enough smoke duh
Slatted rack. Waste of money
What is the slatted rack for?
Blair Korchinski hey Blair, thanks for watching and commenting. The slatted rack gives the bees more room in the bottom so there is less bearding in the summer and some say the queen will feel she has more room and not overcrowded so less tendency to swarm. It also keeps the brood higher up off the bottom so the queen will lay out the whole frame and not leave space at the bottom.