Maybe yo would be able to do that with parring orbital with jin Or put opponent on mimic and you pick bryan do 2 orbital in a row first one whiff and second one bryan will counter hit leroy because recovers faster but before update it was a trade i think
As intense as these nerfs are, this overall looks pretty fair to me. Before this, Leroy's options were very low-risk, high reward. Most of what they did was increase the risk of his offense, forcing players to get it right more often and pay for it otherwise, but the rewards are (mostly) still there. Sure, he didn't get away with everything, but he certainly got away with more than he should at times. While Leroy is definitely gonna be a weaker character now, I think the people who will primarily feel these nerfs are unga bunga players, as they'll be forced to be more careful with their offense, lest they get launched. Only nerf I could say was not totally fair was the b+1+2 nerf. Even if it's an i12 CH launcher, the range is absurdly short. A better nerf would have been to add more recovery frames and make it more whiff-punishable. But, they made their choice.
@@ImGeekinn Anyone still hating on characters after 5.00 is just scrub or someone that hasn’t played fighting games seriously before this one. These people would never last in tag 2.
"The art of looking silly before getting knocked out." But srsly, Leroy was better than Steve who had actual fighting experience in the ring. Try that in real life, wing chun vs pro boxing .. 😭👌
You know, all of these nerfs are good, but do they follow a particular goal to give nerfed top tiers a unique identity, or Bamco just nerfs moves without much thought? Like, is Leroy Smith a more unique character with defined strengths and weaknesses after this patch or not?
Leroy never really had a unique playstyle, he was a master of all trades character before. He's the same now but worse, he has to be reworked with lot of focus on wing chun.
@@IAMOP they should remove all acrobatic move and has his feet root to the ground just like how wingchun actually is and most of his move should be linear as well because wingchun focus on centerline.
The sad state of fighting games I swear. The whole logic behind making a bs, overpowered character for the sole purpose of selling them, only to cut them in half after a certain time frame is just insidious imo. I want to believe DLC can be good for a game's health longterm, but everytime these companies find a way to make the idea seem downright stupid.
I don't even mind the nerfs but now they're nerfing him into the ground to the point where no one will play him anymore, essentially wasting their money
I think they will rework him in Tekken 8. They put Leroy in the Tekken anime, so that shows they had long term intentions with him. It’s a shame they did so well with his character design, but were lazy with his actual move list. I feel like the opposite is the case with Fahkumram
Leeroy already after first 2 patches became weaker than Feng, now Leeroy is just OK tier, but Feng is godlike. Funny what nobody hates Feng and not shaming people who playing him. But even now, when leeroy is destroyed, somebody still hate leeroy.
why would you feel bad to play a top tier character? Imagine if this was Fifa right? You certainly would want someone like Ronaldo or Messi in your team. Chill out. Play whomever you like
Peoples issue with Leroy is the gimmicky aspects the parry spammers who don’t want to play defense and wouldn’t get punished for it and all his great all around tools
This seems to be a trend in FGC I think the pay to win model has officially affected FG take dragonball fighterz for example Ui goku,Master roshi,SSJ4, Android 21 lab coat all broken to the point that if you don't have one on your team chances are your gonna lose then they get nurfed later for the new pay to win character
@@researchbashio Yeah, it still has that use, but the reward is not as great without the instant screw. At least f,f+3 still gives a follow-up after its nerf.
@@researchbashio Me neither. Could have at least kept it the same on counter hit. That way, it's still a whiff punisher, but you can get an extra reward if you play your cards right.
Biggest nerf is B4 imo, but Leroy is still just as strong tbh. Until they remove tracking from Hellsweep, safe orbital, strong parry (it being unsafe on block is "eh"), stance mixups etc. He will never not be good with all those tools lol
Those unsafe stance transitions had big mind games after them on block, b4 was huge because you cab finally try to move against him at the wall. Ff2,2 launch punishable is huge, b1+2 -10 is huge people have asked for that to be punishable since launch. I think these nerfs are definitely pretty significant
there were characters better than him last patch, quit letting peoples biased opinions dictate who you want to play, just dont be a scumbag about it and you good
He was more balanced than some chars even before the patch, so now he should be alright. The memory of what he once was will not disapear tho, and I’ll keep on hating
@@JakeFLM no he’s C tier, he’s literally punishable on every move even his weak ass 10 frame moves. Leroy should’ve been a character that was able to take/ reverse a turn the same way. Heihachi can parry or reverse but since it’s Leroy, he can’t have those qualities. They stripped his ducking properties on DB1 for no apparent reason then decided his CH D 1+2 should’ve been taken away. Then nerfed literally all of his key moves to keep opponents from just blitzing him. He’s definitely C Tier and below now. His orbital is way slower as well. Leroy has nothing going for him. If that’s going to be the case going forward. His side step should’ve been buffed. His movement is some of the worst in the game only to lose out to Gigas in that aspect.
As a Leroy main this some BS I dropped Jin for this character because I love the fighting style over Jin’s hopefully he’s in takken 8 I’ll get the game but if not I’ll die with you Leroy wing for life brother
you were fine before check arslan tier list he was not even top 10 and he has very few moves, only noctis and gigas have less moves, maybe katarina, there is no reason to play leroy unless you like the character, he doesnt do anything that any other character cant do, leo is much better and has similar playstyle
Yay, after the money was spent, now they nerf the characters~ Can’t wait for Namco Bandai to this this again with future titles! Can’t wait for their Killer Instinct game (that they may be making) that has an op version of Eagle, or Banjo-Kazooie, or fucking Donkey Kong have a frame 1 launcher that is low invincible that won’t get changed until the game is dead! Oh, what joy it is being a gamer! :D
F2+3+4 not being able to catch something at the very end if an opponent presses buttons it might as well not even go into hermit stance at that point. I get that he was an issue but now he feels like he's losing every advantage he could possibly have against other people that other characters are allowed to have. I have no faith that they will re-work him so it's just like watching someone with dementia get worse overtime. What a waste of a good visual design.
I'll admit his visual design is dope. But god damn wasn't he cancerous to fight. I hope they tune him to a satisfactory level and we get to see him more.
Maybe don't do that stuff into stance on block. This is how Anna's cat stance always worked. Don't see why Leroy's stance shouldn't have the same weakness.
@@WuTheBat maybe because they’re both different characters with different martial arts movesets. One relies on hit blocks & the other actual hit attacks. That’s how differentiate the 2 otherwise they would be the exact same character.
@@Wavy_Godd96 So Leroy, a character that already doesn't struggle in neutral, has a parry that can intercept anything that isn't a low, and has moves in his stance that can steal his turn back should also be able to stance transition safely into his stance on block while also retaining that very powerful defensive option in the parry as well as now also being able to catch low attacks, AND be able to sidestep out of stance as well? That sounds like a very poor in terms of design.
The 5.00 nerfs completely *POTEMKIN BUSTERED* Leroys' greatest tools. Glad to see the devs at Namco actually make understandable decisions. Now all that's Left is to nerf Zafina.
Lol zafina has had enough nerfs the last patch and however you wanna see it, you’ll still complain about her none stop and you just can’t let what’s best for the character. Sit down
I don't really appreciate this trip we've gone on with Leroy. He released and was a 3D character who could compete with 2D bustedness, which was okay in my book. Like, at least the best character in the game was a Tekken character with plenty of bullshit but a basic approach. Then they nerfed him to a point where he wasn't the same character any more. Now they've killed him. Cool, I guess, could we just not have done all this? Just release him being shit, not let us think we're gonna get a really powerful character then remove him from the game? Just bring back Wang, ffs. Most Leroy mains picked him up for the parry and only then stayed for the cheese. Mind you, the parry got slaughtered fairly early on and it was never as good as Wang's Neutralizer after that. Personally all I wanted was a parry character. Just let us have Wang back, he is powerful but nobody plays him so nobody seems to care, much like Ganryu. Flavor of the month is NOT healthy for fighting games. That shit flies with the MOBA crowd but not with us.
Some of his nerfs feel right and some feel over done, I know the majority of people are tired of Leroy so they love any nerfs that comes his way, however Bamco leaving his hellsweep alone is VERY questionable, especially since they nerfed Lidia's lmaooo I think decreasing B4's range and/or removing it's homing properties would've been better B3 becoming a CH launcher would've made more sense...since it's useless now tbh Ff22 being -13 was fine, it being -14 would've been okay too, but -15 feels a little extra His orbital being slower is great tbh His follow up punches after parry should've been unsafe on block at launch so I'm glad it's unsafe
As a Leroy main myself just take the character out, it’s obvious that the crybabies don’t want him in so why even have him and gigas in the game if they can’t be themselves?
It's a fictional character, there is no such thing as "being themselves", they are whatever the devs want them to be, everyone was excited for Leroy's launch due to the unique design, the only problem is that he is way too strong, in fact you could even argue that he becomes more "himself" with nerfs, since it gives him weaknesses to compensate for his strengths, making him more unique, tho I doubt those 5.00 nerfs are enough, and he is still going to be a top 5 good at everything character, such a cool design wasted on behalf of making the character broken to sell DLCs
@@lel720 no he’s not top tier, he’ll he wasn’t too tier last patch…. People just hate Leroy and praise Hworang( funny how he escaped any nerfs). Also balanced is being able to have positive and negative’s now he has too many negatives and very few positives to be viable. Thanks crybabies.
@@lel720 also being themselves is being authentic to their play style and martial art type, namco has forgotten that main concept. Wing chun is supposed to be all about parrying and tight close range combat with the weakness being long range combat similar to wang jinre .
@@deanbrooks7297 Who praises Hwoarang? sorry but I don't see where you are going with this, even JDCR has been joking about how easy it is to pick up Hwoarang due to the amount of strong tools he has. If Leroy has too many negatives, would you care to explain what they are? because apparently not even the top players know them. If being themselves is being authentic to their martial art, why does Leroy as a Wing Chun practitioner has acrobatic moves like orbital heel(still arguably the best in the game by the way), why does he excel at both close range AND long rage with moves like ff+3, b+3 and d+1+2, and why does he have extremely strong homing and tracking moves like b+4 and db+3? wouldn't nerfing those moves make him more "himself"? well, they where nerfed, shouldn't that make you happy? There are no "crybabies" its just the natural process of a bad update: it launches, people start leaving the game, then the devs fix the problem, or else the game dies. Also if by "crybabies" you mean the people that think Leroy is top tier or just too strong, those "crybabies" got top 8 on EVO 2022 and one of them even won the tournament.
Developers needed 3 years to open their eyes with Leroy and Fak... Akuma, Devil Jin and Jin are still the broken character until they have those hellsweep launcher. Either they remove them or... DJ and Jin's one should be -37 to make sure everone online uses uf,n4 or their best launcher, and give to the launcher 135% scaled damage, so they will eat 80 dmg and 100 dmg w/ wall which I think is fair if you use a low launcher. Akuma should use 2 bars to d3 to launch and it should be -9 instead of +7 on block. When this will be fixed Tekken will finally become a balanced game for the first time in the history of Tekken. I don't understand why people are now so obsessed with Feng, they didn't care anything about him until Knee won with him, same for Zafina with Arslan.
He was never a wing chun character. Just jack of all trades dlc character. Glad to see the big 3 get hit hard. Shaheen had more creative thought then the new dlc characters
He was introduced with the aspect of wing chun. They made him heavily based from Donnie Yen a man who has trained in WC for years. So miss me with that!
I’m not going to lie, personally this has to be one of the worst tekken patches in history, it’s just awful, they nerfed the characters into the dirt, dropped a 5 second face clip of kazuya and dipped for another 3 years 💀
If you think the 5 second Kazuya face clip isn't a teaser and is all we're gonna get in 3 years, you're gonna be in for a surprise soon enough, probably at the Gamscom, maybe at TGS.
@@zardox0163 I’m an eliza main actually so I know about the grind, trust me, tekken hates my main the most, I’ve never touched Leroy but watching others struggle against him is cool 💀
Leroy was still a bit overtuned even after the nerfs but nerfing him again in such a serious way was unnecessary.... They should have crippled akuma this hard not leroy
While I agree Akuma should have been nerfed (so should have Feng), I disagree that those nerfs were unnecessary. I think the nerfs are neither overturned nor undertuned, since Leeroy's able to do everything, he shouldn't be able to do everything well.
His main CH fishing tool b+1+2 also got nerfed if I remember correctly. From -9 to -10.
yo wtf, I did add that with ff+2 clip.
I think I got some issue while exporting
Orbital recovery got nerfed by 3 frames, but that's difficult to show in a video.
Maybe yo would be able to do that with parring orbital with jin
Or put opponent on mimic and you pick bryan do 2 orbital in a row first one whiff and second one bryan will counter hit leroy because recovers faster but before update it was a trade i think
Leroy mains after the patch like...
we r going out with nothing to show for
its time to take ourself to trashcans
Leroy should’ve received a buff to db 1 instead they killed the character
I mean they did win evo japan at least
@@DD-fs7pg u mean Leroy evo
not evo Japan
Also leroy mains gonna said
I'm done
As intense as these nerfs are, this overall looks pretty fair to me. Before this, Leroy's options were very low-risk, high reward. Most of what they did was increase the risk of his offense, forcing players to get it right more often and pay for it otherwise, but the rewards are (mostly) still there. Sure, he didn't get away with everything, but he certainly got away with more than he should at times.
While Leroy is definitely gonna be a weaker character now, I think the people who will primarily feel these nerfs are unga bunga players, as they'll be forced to be more careful with their offense, lest they get launched.
Only nerf I could say was not totally fair was the b+1+2 nerf. Even if it's an i12 CH launcher, the range is absurdly short. A better nerf would have been to add more recovery frames and make it more whiff-punishable. But, they made their choice.
People who main Leroy are...specimens
@@donaldn5798 he’s cool designed, his fighting style is incredibly cool and popular, don’t let his launch taint the character.
@@nahdontevenstart exactly why i use him aint no one as cool looking and and uses fucking wing chun like leroy smith
@@ImGeekinn Anyone still hating on characters after 5.00 is just scrub or someone that hasn’t played fighting games seriously before this one. These people would never last in tag 2.
@@nahdontevenstart especially leroy with all the nerfs they stay giving him 😭
They finally made Wing Chun accurate lol
Tony Ferguson wants to know your location
Which means Wing Chun is launch punishable?
Hahahahah you dirty for this one 😂
"The art of looking silly before getting knocked out." But srsly, Leroy was better than Steve who had actual fighting experience in the ring. Try that in real life, wing chun vs pro boxing .. 😭👌
@@SilversTaurus Everything in wing chun is i29 and -40 on block. 😁
Seems like age has caught up with our guy lol. Went from a god of king-fu to barely a threat anymore.
You know, all of these nerfs are good, but do they follow a particular goal to give nerfed top tiers a unique identity, or Bamco just nerfs moves without much thought?
Like, is Leroy Smith a more unique character with defined strengths and weaknesses after this patch or not?
No
Leroy never really had a unique playstyle, he was a master of all trades character before.
He's the same now but worse, he has to be reworked with lot of focus on wing chun.
@@IAMOP oh well, guess we just enjoy what we get now.
@@IAMOP they should remove all acrobatic move and has his feet root to the ground just like how wingchun actually is and most of his move should be linear as well because wingchun focus on centerline.
@@yujilee112 you're asking too much considering the fact that some characters are demons, other are animals, other are robots, and so on.
The sad state of fighting games I swear. The whole logic behind making a bs, overpowered character for the sole purpose of selling them, only to cut them in half after a certain time frame is just insidious imo. I want to believe DLC can be good for a game's health longterm, but everytime these companies find a way to make the idea seem downright stupid.
100%, such a weak tactic for a hyper competitive game like Tekk.
They did it what? 2-3 times with dlc characters? Obviously they know
I don't even mind the nerfs but now they're nerfing him into the ground to the point where no one will play him anymore, essentially wasting their money
@@Black_Aces Good, people who enabled this deserve to suffer
I think they will rework him in Tekken 8. They put Leroy in the Tekken anime, so that shows they had long term intentions with him. It’s a shame they did so well with his character design, but were lazy with his actual move list.
I feel like the opposite is the case with Fahkumram
@@blockchainballer4542 fahk looks generic, like a enemy pulled from the batman games
Now I can finally play him without feeling bad for playing a Top Tier character.
Leeroy already after first 2 patches became weaker than Feng, now Leeroy is just OK tier, but Feng is godlike. Funny what nobody hates Feng and not shaming people who playing him. But even now, when leeroy is destroyed, somebody still hate leeroy.
why would you feel bad to play a top tier character? Imagine if this was Fifa right? You certainly would want someone like Ronaldo or Messi in your team. Chill out. Play whomever you like
@@aakashmondal789 It's because the second you say you do is the moment people will find any reason to harass and shittalk you for it.
Peoples issue with Leroy is the gimmicky aspects the parry spammers who don’t want to play defense and wouldn’t get punished for it and all his great all around tools
@@WTFWILLYUM same goes for Jin. Jin launches you for pushing...Leroy gets a punish only
This seems to be a trend in FGC I think the pay to win model has officially affected FG take dragonball fighterz for example Ui goku,Master roshi,SSJ4, Android 21 lab coat all broken to the point that if you don't have one on your team chances are your gonna lose then they get nurfed later for the new pay to win character
im glad. dude was safe after damn near everything.
i AM OP can i ask something ? How do you do this videos ?
Like you are prepared for the videos (pre-patch videos) if the patch has nerfs
Love the thumbnail 👍🏼
nerfs were bad for leroy makes it feel like they took too much away imo b3 and b4 should have stayed rest i can agree with idm but b3 and b4 too much
You're so tight Eddy!
They absolutely killed his b+3. What even is the point of using that move now?
Whiff punish
@@researchbashio Yeah, it still has that use, but the reward is not as great without the instant screw. At least f,f+3 still gives a follow-up after its nerf.
@@JunKazamaFan true kinda unnessary too idk anyone who complain about b3
@@researchbashio Me neither. Could have at least kept it the same on counter hit. That way, it's still a whiff punisher, but you can get an extra reward if you play your cards right.
@@researchbashio it's similar to what they did with Lidias F3 and SS4..
Cool looking move but no reasons to use them
I've not updated yet so I'm asking this, how is Asuka/ Josie in this new update?
They are ass as always
Josie is better and Asuka is significantly WAY better than she used to be
Buff Leroy smith, dude is not as good as main cast anymore. People so mad that they nerfed him to oblivion
cope
Biggest nerf is B4 imo, but Leroy is still just as strong tbh. Until they remove tracking from Hellsweep, safe orbital, strong parry (it being unsafe on block is "eh"), stance mixups etc. He will never not be good with all those tools lol
Those unsafe stance transitions had big mind games after them on block, b4 was huge because you cab finally try to move against him at the wall. Ff2,2 launch punishable is huge, b1+2 -10 is huge people have asked for that to be punishable since launch. I think these nerfs are definitely pretty significant
@Bruh Moment What? Where did I say make his orbital unsafe?
@Bruh Moment I meant as long as he had those tools he'll always be a top character, not that he shouldn't have any of those.
So, is it cool to play Leroy now? You won't be accused of only picking him because he's top tier?
I will still ki charge every Leroy, Lidia, and Fahk player and teabag them
@@bilbobaggins7075 Stay mad
there were characters better than him last patch, quit letting peoples biased opinions dictate who you want to play, just dont be a scumbag about it and you good
@@LtheOriginal stay nerfed lmao
@@bilbobaggins7075 Incredibly based behaviour
I miss the meaty counter-hits of Wang
After brawlpro's video i can't hear this song normally. UR SO TIGHT EDDY 😫😭
God damn it
Db4 and 1+2 going untouched is messed up, still a really silly character.
RIP leroy
So as a Tekken beginner. Is Leroy now Considered weak or balanced after these patches?
He was more balanced than some chars even before the patch, so now he should be alright. The memory of what he once was will not disapear tho, and I’ll keep on hating
@@mathiasprudhomme6495 Leroy mains also did their part in ruining his image with all the ki charging and rage quitting whenever you beat them.
He’s weak
@@Wavy_Godd96 no he isnt lol. Leroy is still easy to use and is at minimum stil an A Tier char.
@@JakeFLM no he’s C tier, he’s literally punishable on every move even his weak ass 10 frame moves. Leroy should’ve been a character that was able to take/ reverse a turn the same way. Heihachi can parry or reverse but since it’s Leroy, he can’t have those qualities. They stripped his ducking properties on DB1 for no apparent reason then decided his CH D 1+2 should’ve been taken away. Then nerfed literally all of his key moves to keep opponents from just blitzing him. He’s definitely C Tier and below now. His orbital is way slower as well. Leroy has nothing going for him. If that’s going to be the case going forward. His side step should’ve been buffed. His movement is some of the worst in the game only to lose out to Gigas in that aspect.
I have been searching for this song for a long time how is it called?
armorclad faith
Society
Society
Society?
IM A FOOL
I KNOW NOTHING
@@sulfuricacid4444 I MAY SOUND LIKE A SILLY CLOWN
YOUR SOCIETY
As a Leroy main this some BS I dropped Jin for this character because I love the fighting style over Jin’s hopefully he’s in takken 8 I’ll get the game but if not I’ll die with you Leroy wing for life brother
Best character design ever, worst gameplay design ever. Such a waste of potential. They need to rework him and make him a unique character.
What's the rock song in the background?
Armor clad faith from guilty gear strive
They are nerfing DLC chars to the point ppl will want their money back xD
If they bought them solely because the characters were broken and they wanted to get carried by that, it's what they deserve
Agreed, Tekken should never have been pay to win to begin with.
I don't care how much they nerf him I'm still using him
You act like he isnt top tier anymore
@@Kurosaki-san089 Classic Tekken downplayer
@@Kurosaki-san089 he’s weak af now
@@Kurosaki-san089 guess you dont know what these nerfs actually do lmao
@@crack4184 He is still in top 10
What exactly was the nerf on b+4?
no wall splat and spin on hit, the spin gives plus frames
Oh shit, it's " you're so tight eddy" song from bp stream.
They delivered this character in such a disgusting state that even if he is nerfed down to a blob that can barely move, he will still be disgusting.
True i don't want him in tekken 8 i want Wang
@@yoch5383 heck ya I miss Wang! I don't hear people mention him often. I'll take him over Leroy and Feng!
@@genesishandboards people dont mention him because the interest is barely there
@@BossWolfHomieG Wang was there from the beginning.
@@paolopinto6285 key word, was
Damn, did my main dirty...RIP b3...
Old man's getting old.
They had to nerf him because he got completely clapped in the Netflix anime
This patch Is amazing!!! My main is Lei 😁
So I can finally pick him up without feekj guilty or feel like I'm gimping my development?
you were fine before check arslan tier list he was not even top 10 and he has very few moves, only noctis and gigas have less moves, maybe katarina, there is no reason to play leroy unless you like the character, he doesnt do anything that any other character cant do, leo is much better and has similar playstyle
@SpiteHook He's a shitter that is doing his best to improve
hence the "feel like I'm gimping my development"
No I won't feel like getting mixed up by his breathing.
please make a video on fakhumram 🥺
Thank god!
Yay, after the money was spent, now they nerf the characters~
Can’t wait for Namco Bandai to this this again with future titles! Can’t wait for their Killer Instinct game (that they may be making) that has an op version of Eagle, or Banjo-Kazooie, or fucking Donkey Kong have a frame 1 launcher that is low invincible that won’t get changed until the game is dead! Oh, what joy it is being a gamer! :D
A lawsuit will be put into place to stop practices like this. Regardless of public opinion on said character or whatever because money was spent!
Glad i'm not the only one who noticed. Thanks for the money, chumps!
F2+3+4 not being able to catch something at the very end if an opponent presses buttons it might as well not even go into hermit stance at that point.
I get that he was an issue but now he feels like he's losing every advantage he could possibly have against other people that other characters are allowed to have.
I have no faith that they will re-work him so it's just like watching someone with dementia get worse overtime. What a waste of a good visual design.
I'll admit his visual design is dope. But god damn wasn't he cancerous to fight. I hope they tune him to a satisfactory level and we get to see him more.
Maybe don't do that stuff into stance on block. This is how Anna's cat stance always worked. Don't see why Leroy's stance shouldn't have the same weakness.
You can still crush or parry to steal your turn back, maybe you shouldn't have a beat all option solely based from frames and use that brain instead.
@@WuTheBat maybe because they’re both different characters with different martial arts movesets. One relies on hit blocks & the other actual hit attacks. That’s how differentiate the 2 otherwise they would be the exact same character.
@@Wavy_Godd96 So Leroy, a character that already doesn't struggle in neutral, has a parry that can intercept anything that isn't a low, and has moves in his stance that can steal his turn back should also be able to stance transition safely into his stance on block while also retaining that very powerful defensive option in the parry as well as now also being able to catch low attacks, AND be able to sidestep out of stance as well? That sounds like a very poor in terms of design.
Conclusion: He's dead (?)
as a new leroy player, he is still solid overall but the b3 nerf is bs🤣
This is a bit ridiculous..
Thank God I wasn't there prepatch
Are these insane nerfs??
Yes
Leroy smith to Leroy Jenkins.
I played leroy last night anf i didnt see any nerfs at all
The 5.00 nerfs completely *POTEMKIN BUSTERED* Leroys' greatest tools. Glad to see the devs at Namco actually make understandable decisions. Now all that's Left is to nerf Zafina.
and akuma
and Paul
@@Ronirandom76 True 📠
Lol zafina has had enough nerfs the last patch and however you wanna see it, you’ll still complain about her none stop and you just can’t let what’s best for the character. Sit down
@Cynical zafina is broken
Leroy 🤢🤢🤢 in shambles love to see it
Still convinced he didnt need a hard nerf
Biggest nerf they can make is that on tekken 8 removing all DLC characters from tekken 7 😂🤣
GOOD, GOOD
Too much.
B3 is useless now
FF22 should've at least become hit confirmable and make it -16.
Everything else is okay.
He still has all the good moves just less safe
so they're not good anymore
Good 👍
WOW.
He's finally likeable ❤️
Armor clad faithhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
He had it coming tbh🤷♂
so he’s still very playable
That's some bs!
I don't really appreciate this trip we've gone on with Leroy. He released and was a 3D character who could compete with 2D bustedness, which was okay in my book. Like, at least the best character in the game was a Tekken character with plenty of bullshit but a basic approach. Then they nerfed him to a point where he wasn't the same character any more. Now they've killed him. Cool, I guess, could we just not have done all this? Just release him being shit, not let us think we're gonna get a really powerful character then remove him from the game?
Just bring back Wang, ffs. Most Leroy mains picked him up for the parry and only then stayed for the cheese. Mind you, the parry got slaughtered fairly early on and it was never as good as Wang's Neutralizer after that. Personally all I wanted was a parry character. Just let us have Wang back, he is powerful but nobody plays him so nobody seems to care, much like Ganryu. Flavor of the month is NOT healthy for fighting games. That shit flies with the MOBA crowd but not with us.
You just want to have a parry character? May I present to you Asuka?
@@NandolfBlockbuster fuck Asuka she’s not even in the same conversation. As you can reverse her parry unlike Wang or Leroy
@@NandolfBlockbuster we wanted a cool party character outside of feng Wei…..asuka isn’t even in the running lol
@Ewan Verstraeten Real parry that people can't slap me in the face for trying to use 😁
@@nallynally9108 Jin
So much nerf
Oh tragedy 😂
Some of his nerfs feel right and some feel over done, I know the majority of people are tired of Leroy so they love any nerfs that comes his way, however Bamco leaving his hellsweep alone is VERY questionable, especially since they nerfed Lidia's lmaooo
I think decreasing B4's range and/or removing it's homing properties would've been better
B3 becoming a CH launcher would've made more sense...since it's useless now tbh
Ff22 being -13 was fine, it being -14 would've been okay too, but -15 feels a little extra
His orbital being slower is great tbh
His follow up punches after parry should've been unsafe on block at launch so I'm glad it's unsafe
Goofy ahh audio levels
b3 has become completly useless
no free one button homing electric nooo. get shit on leroy crutcher
Leroy destroyed
He s dead
If every attack Leroy did was 0 or negative on block only then I would consider him balanced.
Move on tekken 8
As a Leroy main myself just take the character out, it’s obvious that the crybabies don’t want him in so why even have him and gigas in the game if they can’t be themselves?
It's a fictional character, there is no such thing as "being themselves", they are whatever the devs want them to be, everyone was excited for Leroy's launch due to the unique design, the only problem is that he is way too strong, in fact you could even argue that he becomes more "himself" with nerfs, since it gives him weaknesses to compensate for his strengths, making him more unique, tho I doubt those 5.00 nerfs are enough, and he is still going to be a top 5 good at everything character, such a cool design wasted on behalf of making the character broken to sell DLCs
@@lel720 no he’s not top tier, he’ll he wasn’t too tier last patch…. People just hate Leroy and praise Hworang( funny how he escaped any nerfs). Also balanced is being able to have positive and negative’s now he has too many negatives and very few positives to be viable. Thanks crybabies.
@@lel720 also being themselves is being authentic to their play style and martial art type, namco has forgotten that main concept. Wing chun is supposed to be all about parrying and tight close range combat with the weakness being long range combat similar to wang jinre .
@@deanbrooks7297 Who praises Hwoarang? sorry but I don't see where you are going with this, even JDCR has been joking about how easy it is to pick up Hwoarang due to the amount of strong tools he has.
If Leroy has too many negatives, would you care to explain what they are? because apparently not even the top players know them.
If being themselves is being authentic to their martial art, why does Leroy as a Wing Chun practitioner has acrobatic moves like orbital heel(still arguably the best in the game by the way), why does he excel at both close range AND long rage with moves like ff+3, b+3 and d+1+2, and why does he have extremely strong homing and tracking moves like b+4 and db+3? wouldn't nerfing those moves make him more "himself"? well, they where nerfed, shouldn't that make you happy?
There are no "crybabies" its just the natural process of a bad update: it launches, people start leaving the game, then the devs fix the problem, or else the game dies.
Also if by "crybabies" you mean the people that think Leroy is top tier or just too strong, those "crybabies" got top 8 on EVO 2022 and one of them even won the tournament.
@@lel720 Why do others have an orbital even if acrobatics is not their style?
About EVO and proplayers... None of them used Leroy lol
Developers needed 3 years to open their eyes with Leroy and Fak... Akuma, Devil Jin and Jin are still the broken character until they have those hellsweep launcher. Either they remove them or... DJ and Jin's one should be -37 to make sure everone online uses uf,n4 or their best launcher, and give to the launcher 135% scaled damage, so they will eat 80 dmg and 100 dmg w/ wall which I think is fair if you use a low launcher. Akuma should use 2 bars to d3 to launch and it should be -9 instead of +7 on block. When this will be fixed Tekken will finally become a balanced game for the first time in the history of Tekken. I don't understand why people are now so obsessed with Feng, they didn't care anything about him until Knee won with him, same for Zafina with Arslan.
It's sux . Leyro is dead
DESERVED!!!!
He was never a wing chun character. Just jack of all trades dlc character. Glad to see the big 3 get hit hard. Shaheen had more creative thought then the new dlc characters
He was introduced with the aspect of wing chun. They made him heavily based from Donnie Yen a man who has trained in WC for years. So miss me with that!
How to kill a character.
The world is healing
How to balance a character
“Cheese monster” that’s ironic.
leroy nerfs bring me joy
I’m not going to lie, personally this has to be one of the worst tekken patches in history, it’s just awful, they nerfed the characters into the dirt, dropped a 5 second face clip of kazuya and dipped for another 3 years 💀
I’ve been playing this game since I was 7 this right here is just crazy 🫥🫥🫥
If you think the 5 second Kazuya face clip isn't a teaser and is all we're gonna get in 3 years, you're gonna be in for a surprise soon enough, probably at the Gamscom, maybe at TGS.
@@NandolfBlockbuster no they won’t be dropping anything
Says a Leroy main
@@zardox0163 I’m an eliza main actually so I know about the grind, trust me, tekken hates my main the most, I’ve never touched Leroy but watching others struggle against him is cool 💀
This is just dumb
This music is trash. Had to watch on mute.
Leroy was still a bit overtuned even after the nerfs but nerfing him again in such a serious way was unnecessary.... They should have crippled akuma this hard not leroy
While I agree Akuma should have been nerfed (so should have Feng), I disagree that those nerfs were unnecessary. I think the nerfs are neither overturned nor undertuned, since Leeroy's able to do everything, he shouldn't be able to do everything well.
Sorry main Leeroy player, now you're going to need brains and some skill to win with that character