The big 10 has footprints in major markets: Chicago, LA, PA (Philadelphia, Pittsburgh), DC, Maryland (Baltimore), NYC/ NJ metro area, Indianapolis, Detroit, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Ohio (Cleveland and Cincinnati)- no wonder that deal was so much
The population footprint o the big 10 is a lot larger than the sec. Also I think the student population is much higher. I read an article a few years about how the big 10 is playing the long game. All of these graduates leave and spread out around the country and they are planning on them spending money to watch the games. It seems like a good plan for the moment.
That's the thing about it though. Out of all of the networks ESPN is still the only one that covers sports 24 7 and college football extensively. The other networks cover it mostly on Saturdays and maybe a couple of other shows throughout the week. So even though the Big 10 made this deal with the other networks, we are still going to be hear most college football news coming out of ESPN.
As a buckeye fan, I can truly say I hope the BIG AND the SEC stay put where they are at right now. I believe that college football as an entity is strongest with more conferences not fewer, in addition, I know nobody wants to hear it or cares to listen but creating two mega conferences will crush a large number of good football programs, and in turn crush many athletic departments which will hurt those institutions and ultimately hurt athletes. The more successful football programs that exist means more Olympic sports at those institutions which means opportunities for students to earn a scholarship to a good school and get an education. I know that this is football and it matters most, and I care just as much as everyone else I’m a freaking buckeye, but just because football and to some degree basketball has become something not so similar to collegiate athletics doesn’t mean the same has happened to the vast vast majority of scholarship awarding sports in college. These schools and athletic departments create better lives for students who often need the most help, wrecking that system nationally would be a major step backward in this country. And secondarily, I truly believe that if we get to a two team model that the sport will ultimately decline both in fandom and in revenue. Right now, the BIG and SEC have cemented themselves as the top dogs and have guaranteed themself a large financial advantage over everyone else, why would you wanna give that advantage away by inviting more teams to the club, and as a result shrinking the number of teams in the sport.
I'm a Penn State fan and I think we have to add ND plus three west coast teams to get to 20. USC and UCLA can't be left on an island and ND is just common sense.
@@heartbreak25 I get adding ND. I really think it would be bad for college football if the PAC12 or 10 ceases to exist. And if we pluck some combo of Washington Oregon Stanford Cal that league will fold and so will big time college football for the most part on the West Coast. Sure there will be some BIG teams out west but those other programs will be relegated to the Mountain west or the WAC and those programs and their athletic departments will be kneecapped. Killing off a ton of good programs on the west coast can’t be good for college football as a whole or overall fan interest in the sport. We need eyeballs to increase revenue, if you kill off your fan bases eyeballs will dissipate.
ESPN walked away. LOOK carefully at the B1G championship games. ESPN could have had 2 of this years (Fox got 4 years; CBS 2; and NBC 1). The Football Playoff contract is coming up soon. Expect a Rotation, No Exclusives.
Correct. Advertisers Care About EYES and Audiences. Yes, SEC constantly talks about their Football Quality (sounds like a Cadillac dealer), BUT never mention any other college sport. The “cut the cord” (away from Cable TV) audiences are rewarded. ESPN constantly trying to get ESPN+ subscribers (streaming) (for 12 months ESPN Support could never get it working with my Android Sony TV) CBS swaps from SEC to B1G for their 3:30 game. Next Year only, CBS has SEC & B1G. CBS big winner in B1G basketball, adding regular season games. NBC big winner. Doubleheader with Notre Dame afternoons for Home games and 8 pm ET B1G night time game. Watch NBC bring an NFL style feel to their broadcasts. NBC also gets 4 years of B1G Olympic sports before 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
As a guy that lived in Florida and Ohio I have to day the SEC has the biggest fan base. The Midwest likes pro football more than the south though. I do think this deal is awesome though. It will make college football in general better along with the Big10
Thing is, the alumni bases for the Big Ten schools are much, much larger than the SEC. The SEC may have a greater number of more rabid fans, but not a greater number overall. A TV viewer who only tunes in for the games is worth as much a broadcast as the one who is on message boards day and night.
The big ten has big cities with lots of money! The sec has Starkville, Mississippi and Fayetteville, Arkansas. Once again espn screwed themselves over with their bad decision making.
Big ten is spread from coast to coast. That itself is more valuable than what the sec can offer which is why Big Ten gonna get more money than the SEC but keep the copium coming lmao.
Don't forget ESPN family of networks is dominate actually it takes 3 to compete with ESPN SEC with ABC ,ESPN Disney are the leaders of sports broadcast
The big 10 deal is 25 million more dollars a year than the average SEC school but once the money goes up and you're 3 or 4 it'll be 50 million more than an average SEC school
The Gap will close tremendously when Texas and Oklahoma come on board . Don't get me wrong B1G will always lead because of the markets Los Angeles ,Chicago, Detroit, Twin Cities, Milwaukee Pittsburgh, ect. Texas and Oklahoma markets and fanbases will close the gap a lot.
@@justarandominternetdude2579 Partly ! New York is not a big college football market but Rutgers, Princeton North Jersey has some college football fans B1G is trying to grow their brand there playing games in Yankee Stadium SEC will never match B1G in revenue that being said SEC will always be a close 2nd because of their on field success, network, and religion like fanbases
@@waltercole5024 it’s bigger than you think it is. There’s a bar for just about every p5 program in Manhattan. Plus, a lot of grads from those schools end up in the NYC area as well. Plus, when Rutgers was on their run in the mid 2000’s. Plenty of folks who weren’t die hard fans, paid way more attention.
@@waltercole5024 Even getting 10-15% of NYC to watch Big 10 football is what you're aiming for. That's more people than 100% of Columbus, and as crazy as OSU fans are, 100% of the city of Columbus isn't watching Ohio State football.
Gotta hand it to CBS. They got the SEC for basically nothing over the last 15 years plus and with the ad revenue profit from thenSEC games they bought the Big Ten
The crazy thing is, the Big Ten football was actually down in the past two decades, maybe except the Ohio State. If Big Ten can just play at the same level as the SEC, Big Ten's revenue will blow away SEC's. I think the Big Ten schools need to start buying players with those extra money - forget about academics and ethical values of college sports.
It will, Michigan is back, they are three deep at all positions and they are loaded Ohio State Michigan will challenge every year it's too bad they're not in opposite division so they can meet like Alabama and Georgia in the championship game
@@bradsmith9118 Of course you know exactly what I meant but why should I expect anything less. Arrogant, smug, and smarmy. Hallmarks of the elitist North.
@@bradsmith9118 "Where is the University of the SEC Located at?" Come on dude, didn't that BIG-10 education teach you not to end a sentence with a preposition?? However, I will attempt to answer your question anyway. The SEC HQ's is located in Birmingham, AL while BIG-10 HQ's is located in Rosemont, IL. Now since we've gotten that out of the way, can you tell me where the multitude of BIG-10 National Championship Trophies are located? And by multitude I mean TWO? Never mind, I found them, they are in Columbus, OH. However, I did find half of a trophy in Anarbor, MI. from 1997. What is that about? LOL! You can find the SEC NC trophies in Tuscaloosa, AL, Baton Rouge, LA, Gainesville, FL, and Auburn, AL. I heard more will be arriving from Norman OK, and Austin, TX. very soon. NOTE: All of these are only from the year 2000 to the present. All of the others had to be placed in a warehouse as there were too many and cannot be properly displayed until a new facility is constructed. See you on the field dude and congratulations on your new TV deal. LOL🤣🤣🤣
Big 10 has control of the biggest tv markets in the US. That revenue will build top notch facilities and beyond, better recruiting will follow along. This is the beginning of the fall of the SEC and ESPN and I love watching it unfold. Sorry SEC, your time on top is almost over.
diehard UM fan, but i disagree with your recruiting outlook. the best talent is in the south (louisiana, georgia and FLA have an embarrassment of talent every year) the top recruits won't flock to the big 10 just because a school will get $90M per year from TV contracts. NIL can't be distributed by the school, unless other factors come into play, the best recruits from the south will more than likely stay south
The SEC can claim the championships, but much like the Dallas Cowboys, championships don't always mean your team/conference will make the most money. The Cowboys haven't won a title since '95 yet are still the richest NFL franchise in the country. Sometimes you leverage other factors aside from winning games and titles to make money.
Most of the time factors beyond winning and titles drives income. Jerry’s special arrangement with the NFL when they joined guaranteed the cowboys dump trucks full of money forever. He really got over on the NFL in that negotiation and cemented his team as the richest in the league forever, barring some momentous change in structure.
SEC = Alabama + 1 every year the past 15ish years. Mainly due to Saban who is prob the GOAT. Their fans are pretty loyal, mainly cuz they dont have a big market for pro sports outside of ATL, Nashville, TX (TU and OU will help more), and FL (which is honestly more ACC/Group 5 dominate). They produce a lot of great football players locally, so thats going to continue to help. And the weather does help a lot. But with B1G expansion, they have the largest cities population outside of ATL, DFW, & Orlando (where ever they fall), cover East to West (with sunny Cal avail now, thats huge for local players), and just solid football. Lately its been tOSU but its not like they havent had other schools represent in the CFP. The only thing ESPN has going for them is they literally own the CFP. Once they start sniffing the other leagues outside of the SEC, then dont be surprised we get rid of the NCAA and put in a commissioner or the B1G makes their own playoffs.
Spot on 💯!!! Couldn't have said it better, excellent analysis 👏 B1G will always make more money than SEC it is what it is a stated fact!!! But on the field SEC will continue to be extremely strong and popular because of as u mentioned weather, recruiting area, high school football, religious like fanbases and most of all its success on the field. "IT JUST MEANS MORE " Because of that they always be a close 2nd in revenue ,SEC, B1G has the two best products therefore I too can see a B1G, SEC Championship Game The Big 12 looks like they'll be okay, but ACC ,PAC 12 I don't know 😕
Both the SEC and B1G will be fine. What remains to be seen is if we end up with two super conferences, or if the ACC, Big 12, and PAC can’t form a third. On a related topic, I wonder how this will play out for the CFP contract in 2026?
As to the CFP once the current tv deal is up? They will go to multiple networks like the NFL It means more money and not one network monopolizing it. The B1G, Big 12, ACC, PAC Whatever will NEVER agree to a new deal that only sees ESPN controlling it again. I also think it will expand to at minimum 12 teams and a small chance of expanding it to 16 team playoff.
@@ChrisFeist76 depends on if the Pac 12 Big 12 and ACC are even still a thing or it just becomes a power 2 and Big Ten and SEC teams are the only ones in the playoffs.
Which is why I think the CFP might become pointless and more put on the conference championship game for the Big Ten. I mean sure was it cool to see UofM in the playoffs? Yeah. Did I care that they lost? Nope. They already best OSU and won the Big Ten. That is what matters to aot more of the fan base in Big Ten Football. Now Basketball, Volleyball, and Gymnastics would be a different story. Especially Basketball.
@@evacody1249 I disagree. You can't tell me Michigan didn't want to win an NC. Part of the problem with the current CFP format and contract is it heavily favors one conference, which happens to have exclusive media rights with the only media outlet for the CFP.
I get it the SEC might be slightly better in football, but let's be real academic prestige might be apart of how much money they recieved..smart people always get paid more...SEC don't compare🤷♂️
Remember in 2011 when the big ten looked like a joke? The downhill Brady Hoke & Rich Rod Michigan era & the loss to App St. Ohio state getting the death penalty, going 6-7 & losing to a pathetic Brady Hoke Michigan team. Michigan St. had Kirk Cousins (that’s embarrassment alone). Penn St. getting the death penalty Nebraska, Rutgers & Maryland joined bc they thought they were going to dominate the easy big ten. Now they’re here recruiting USC & getting a $7 billion deal. Plus the SEC is crying about it
SEC just doesn't have enough large markets and the South in general is still much poorer than the North. In short, the money is in the Big Ten footprint. NIL favors Big Ten also in time. SEC, as currently constituted, may be in for a shock in the NIL era.
@@brandonhubbard I'm not knocking the South, I live in the South, lol! But a Conference that has half its members in Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, South Carolina and Kentucky just ain't gonna be able to compete in the NIL Era. In fact, the exploitive nature of College Athletics till this point has favored the South since they were artificially able to keep all that talent. But there is hope, namely expanding the SEC into Florida and Texas.
@@VinnieBoombatz374 guarantee the B1G is looking to expand into Florida. I don't usually call anything but I'm calling this; one of those Florida teams is coming to the B1G if for no other reason than the recruiting footprint and the market particularly Miami. Also I wouldn't sleep on a look at a Texas school either particularly if that TA&M rumor has any legitimacy to it. And there's also TCU of course.
@@VinnieBoombatz374 when the big ten starts pulling the coaches away from the Sec big teams you will see the big sec teams legit abandon the sec in time. It’s all headed to a super conference clearly.
The BIG has the best deal in the history of CFB, The BIG is on three major networks, all day long Saturday. I believe this puts them ahead of the SEC by a good margin. They have four of the largest TV markets. Here is the top five TV markets. Mr Warren has done a masterful job in negotiating the best TV contract in the history of College Football. New York (#1) Los Angeles (#2) Chicago (#3) Philadelphia (#4) Dallas-Fort Worth (#5)
How earth can ESPN let this happen? They gonna be stuck with a just Clemson in the ACC, CBS is still the Network for top SEC games, Pac-12 is irrelevant outside the west coast, Big 12 is too with Oklahoma and Texas leaving.
It's about college football as a whole . We can't forget about the group of 5 conferences and div 3 and div 4 . All levels of college football need to get a slice of the pie . NCAA needs to regulate college athletics .
People are competitive in nature and no more so than those that love their sports and teams. In general, it’s the same argument being made as to who has the superior conference as it is who has the better networks. ESPN and FOX Sports are fighting very much like the SEC and the B1G for bragging rights. ESPN will push the SEC now that they’re excluded and FOX Sports will push for the B1G. Then people will say the other networks (ABC, NBC & CBS) are like the Big 12, ACC and PAC 12. As for me, I’m a fan of a Blue Blood program and I don’t care which of the conferences we’re in, what team we’re playing, the time of the game or what network it’s on. What matters to me is that I’m watching and rooting each Saturday they’re televised. I live over 1,000 miles from the campus and feel like I’m the winner by getting to consistently watch my boys play. The ultimate goal is the National Championship! The rest of the arguments of who’s theoretically better (conference or network) is a distant second.
Exactly, Big10 is the top dog, Period..Sankey refuses to expand which will keep the SEC firmly in 2nd place..Big10 has by far the larger TV contract, by Far!, they have more teams with larger markets, they’re bicoastal and they draw the largest viewership!! yes it does..I suppose Sankey is fine with that but as SEC fans are we?
This was all started by the SEC, Big12 and ACC in the 90s with big media contracts while others were on the outside looking in. The B1G is just trying to survive but in doing so have made their brand national while the SEC, ACC and Big 12 are more regional. So those talking about the dominance of the SEC this will most likely end that. It'll be good for college football as well to have competition from all over the nation. The NCAA, ESPN, along with the SEC became a monopoly the last 15 years or so. I think this shift is happening due in part to the continued fall of Disney and its affiliates. The contraction of ESPN is hurting the once dominant sports outlet. Maybe if ESPN had remained in more households the B1G would have continued to decline. It is hard for me to fathom the B1G Network alone is in as many households as ESPN, this before the LA market added to the B1G footprint, both are in about 75 million households. They say the SEC will have similar payouts coming in 2024 from ESPN but that seems highly unlikely at this point unless they generate more exposure thru other outlets. With NIL, transfer portal and CFP expansion the dark days in the B1G could be ending. Unless of course this B1G renewal is somehow ended by others.
Oh no, give me a break.. football fans in NYC, LA, Detroit? Haha are you kidding me.. no doubt there are far more football viewers in Atlanta, Nashville, Birmingham than those other cities.. football is bigger in the south, Period
It's the civil war all over again lol. The Yankees win the North and have a strangle hold on revenue. The south has its pride, but pride won't make you rich 😂
Honestly the SEC is in good hands with ESPN & ABC. Wait till they showcase the SEC championship game on both networks at the same time lol. Plus they'll have more primetime games on display too with both networks. With CBS the top SEC game of the week kick off at 3:30 ET. Now they'll flex that game to 8 ET to bring in more late ratings. They're taking two steps forward not one step backwards. With that being said the Big 10 deal will be monumental. It will close, if not surpass, the SEC in TV ratings but the reak battle they have to win is the talent on the field throughout the conference because the SEC still own that catagory. The SEC now own three of the top five high school talented states when it come to recruiting.
All these big ten or sec haters in these comment section talking about we have the biggest fan base, our old history is better. But we allll know whos a better conference in present day
I dont get what Big 10 fans think they have won? It's all cyclical. When the SEC goes to make a new deal in the future it will be bigger than the BIg 10s and then the Big 10 will be up for a new deal sometime after that and they will get a bigger deal and everyone's just going to keep getting a bigger deal based off the last deal that was made. Plus tv deals don't help you win football games and the SEC is still going to dominate in that aspect.
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The big 10 has footprints in major markets: Chicago, LA, PA (Philadelphia, Pittsburgh), DC, Maryland (Baltimore), NYC/ NJ metro area, Indianapolis, Detroit, Minneapolis, Milwaukee, Ohio (Cleveland and Cincinnati)- no wonder that deal was so much
The population footprint o the big 10 is a lot larger than the sec. Also I think the student population is much higher. I read an article a few years about how the big 10 is playing the long game. All of these graduates leave and spread out around the country and they are planning on them spending money to watch the games. It seems like a good plan for the moment.
@@bbkyjohnson well what is the most well know school logo. If you said Michigan you are right.
I did not know that? I wouldn’t have been surprised if it was ND or Bama either. I hate the logo!! lol
Even though St. Louis is in an SEC state (Mizzou), but I can tell you that there are more rabid Husker fans than Mizzou
ESPN breaking news bout the Big Ten contract that they aren’t apart of 😂
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Ikr
That's the thing about it though. Out of all of the networks ESPN is still the only one that covers sports 24 7 and college football extensively. The other networks cover it mostly on Saturdays and maybe a couple of other shows throughout the week. So even though the Big 10 made this deal with the other networks, we are still going to be hear most college football news coming out of ESPN.
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Its a done deal now, Jean
As a buckeye fan, I can truly say I hope the BIG AND the SEC stay put where they are at right now. I believe that college football as an entity is strongest with more conferences not fewer, in addition, I know nobody wants to hear it or cares to listen but creating two mega conferences will crush a large number of good football programs, and in turn crush many athletic departments which will hurt those institutions and ultimately hurt athletes. The more successful football programs that exist means more Olympic sports at those institutions which means opportunities for students to earn a scholarship to a good school and get an education. I know that this is football and it matters most, and I care just as much as everyone else I’m a freaking buckeye, but just because football and to some degree basketball has become something not so similar to collegiate athletics doesn’t mean the same has happened to the vast vast majority of scholarship awarding sports in college. These schools and athletic departments create better lives for students who often need the most help, wrecking that system nationally would be a major step backward in this country. And secondarily, I truly believe that if we get to a two team model that the sport will ultimately decline both in fandom and in revenue. Right now, the BIG and SEC have cemented themselves as the top dogs and have guaranteed themself a large financial advantage over everyone else, why would you wanna give that advantage away by inviting more teams to the club, and as a result shrinking the number of teams in the sport.
they're not. BIG wants NOTRE DAME in 2025 & SEC wants FLA ST & CLEMSON, but that'll be in 2034.
Well said my friend!👏
I'm a Penn State fan and I think we have to add ND plus three west coast teams to get to 20. USC and UCLA can't be left on an island and ND is just common sense.
@@heartbreak25 I get adding ND. I really think it would be bad for college football if the PAC12 or 10 ceases to exist. And if we pluck some combo of Washington Oregon Stanford Cal that league will fold and so will big time college football for the most part on the West Coast. Sure there will be some BIG teams out west but those other programs will be relegated to the Mountain west or the WAC and those programs and their athletic departments will be kneecapped. Killing off a ton of good programs on the west coast can’t be good for college football as a whole or overall fan interest in the sport. We need eyeballs to increase revenue, if you kill off your fan bases eyeballs will dissipate.
@@johnnyp5216 Mexicanz don't care about College Football in the west. Only Soccer!
Big ten is telling ESPN to eat it. Which is great since ESPN is a strong SEC biased network.
ESPN walked away.
LOOK carefully at the B1G championship games. ESPN could have had 2 of this years (Fox got 4 years; CBS 2; and NBC 1).
The Football Playoff contract is coming up soon. Expect a Rotation, No Exclusives.
@@w9gb The bidding got too high for ESPN and they HAD to walk away. They couldn't afford what the other networks were willing to pay for B1G sports
@@mikeworkman1759 Exactly this. I keep hearing "oh ESPN walked away".. No, ESPN got outbid.
And FS1 & FOX is a strong Ohio State biased network.
@@ChrisFeist76 they couldn’t stand that the B10 was getting so much money. It was too much for their southern brains.
The Big Ten fan base and history completely DWARFS the SEC. It’s not even close. And your seeing that here.
Correct. Advertisers Care About EYES and Audiences.
Yes, SEC constantly talks about their Football Quality (sounds like a Cadillac dealer),
BUT never mention any other college sport.
The “cut the cord” (away from Cable TV) audiences are rewarded.
ESPN constantly trying to get ESPN+ subscribers (streaming)
(for 12 months ESPN Support could never get it working with my Android Sony TV)
CBS swaps from SEC to B1G for their 3:30 game. Next Year only, CBS has SEC & B1G.
CBS big winner in B1G basketball, adding regular season games.
NBC big winner.
Doubleheader with Notre Dame afternoons for Home games and
8 pm ET B1G night time game. Watch NBC bring an NFL style feel to their broadcasts.
NBC also gets 4 years of B1G Olympic sports before 2028 Summer Olympics in Los Angeles.
As a guy that lived in Florida and Ohio I have to day the SEC has the biggest fan base. The Midwest likes pro football more than the south though. I do think this deal is awesome though. It will make college football in general better along with the Big10
Thing is, the alumni bases for the Big Ten schools are much, much larger than the SEC. The SEC may have a greater number of more rabid fans, but not a greater number overall. A TV viewer who only tunes in for the games is worth as much a broadcast as the one who is on message boards day and night.
When will GA and FL (TAM) see the light - small market schools small market $$. Wait til B1G grows by subtraction.
Not even close bud… SEC
Lol idk why I even watched this. Knew they’d just be guzzling the SECs nuts to make themselves feel better.
Absolute truth, I love coming to the comments to troll sec homers who actually believe there conference is superior because of a single team/coach
The big ten has big cities with lots of money! The sec has Starkville, Mississippi and Fayetteville, Arkansas. Once again espn screwed themselves over with their bad decision making.
Big ten is spread from coast to coast. That itself is more valuable than what the sec can offer which is why Big Ten gonna get more money than the SEC but keep the copium coming lmao.
When you have the ability to show three games on Saturday on linear networks the B1G is definitely winning. Three beats one (NBC, CBS, FOX vs ABC).
Don't forget ESPN family of networks is dominate actually it takes 3 to compete with ESPN
SEC with ABC ,ESPN Disney are the leaders of sports broadcast
BIG10 Network too
@@waltercole5024 no it doesn’t lol
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ESPN, $7.5 billion.
NFL Network, $1.16 billion.
Fox Sports 1, $1.08 billion.
ESPN2, $941.2 million.
SEC Network, $547.3 million.
Golf Channel, $332.2 million.
NBC Sports Network, $299 million.
Big Ten Network, $290.2 million.
But you have to have cable to all the ESPN channels except for abc. Fox, NBC, and CBS show on everyone’s tv. Many people are cutting the cord.
The big 10 deal is 25 million more dollars a year than the average SEC school but once the money goes up and you're 3 or 4 it'll be 50 million more than an average SEC school
The Gap will close tremendously when Texas and Oklahoma come on board .
Don't get me wrong B1G will always lead because of the markets Los Angeles ,Chicago, Detroit, Twin Cities, Milwaukee Pittsburgh, ect.
Texas and Oklahoma markets and fanbases will close the gap a lot.
@@waltercole5024 you forgot NYC is also a B1G media market
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Partly !
New York is not a big college football market but Rutgers, Princeton North Jersey has some college football fans
B1G is trying to grow their brand there playing games in Yankee Stadium
SEC will never match B1G in revenue that being said SEC will always be a close 2nd because of their on field success, network, and religion like fanbases
@@waltercole5024 it’s bigger than you think it is. There’s a bar for just about every p5 program in Manhattan. Plus, a lot of grads from those schools end up in the NYC area as well. Plus, when Rutgers was on their run in the mid 2000’s. Plenty of folks who weren’t die hard fans, paid way more attention.
@@waltercole5024 Even getting 10-15% of NYC to watch Big 10 football is what you're aiming for. That's more people than 100% of Columbus, and as crazy as OSU fans are, 100% of the city of Columbus isn't watching Ohio State football.
Gotta hand it to CBS. They got the SEC for basically nothing over the last 15 years plus and with the ad revenue profit from thenSEC games they bought the Big Ten
The crazy thing is, the Big Ten football was actually down in the past two decades, maybe except the Ohio State. If Big Ten can just play at the same level as the SEC, Big Ten's revenue will blow away SEC's. I think the Big Ten schools need to start buying players with those extra money - forget about academics and ethical values of college sports.
Revenue sharing is on the table with the players.
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U mean cheat like the sec
It will, Michigan is back, they are three deep at all positions and they are loaded Ohio State Michigan will challenge every year it's too bad they're not in opposite division so they can meet like Alabama and Georgia in the championship game
Big10 has already blown past SEC and will continue when it comes to revenue.
I bet Paul hates this. He's a SEC homer
That's his downfall, too parochial.
I can't stand him
SEC folks absolutely desperate LMFAO you love to see it
Desperate how?🤣🤣🤣🤣
I surprise espn let them talk about this since espn not apart of it
I honestly wasn't expecting to hear anything. I haven't checked the channels tho so their might be something on get up or something.
ESPN can't help themselves in SEC bias. If the SEC showed a hair bit of objectivity we wouldn't be here at all.
And Fox is Ohio St. bias.
Pat Forde saying the sec has better football is the reason why big ten fans are sick of ESPN
ESPN (Disney) is very liberal, so its future demise is a net plus.
Wasn't aware they had liberal leanings they seem a tad bit too conservative for my blood. But they winning tho so I'm going to let them do them.
I guess it doesn't mean more in the SEC. The North wins again 😆
Tell that to yourself when the SEC hoists yet ANOTHER National Championship trophy once again this year LOL 🤣
@@jasonmanley7815 Where is this University of the SEC located at? Mississippi, Ar-Kansas, Kentucky, Tennessee, South Carolina, Missouri, Texas?
@@bradsmith9118 Of course you know exactly what I meant but why should I expect anything less. Arrogant, smug, and smarmy. Hallmarks of the elitist North.
@@bradsmith9118 "Where is the University of the SEC Located at?" Come on dude, didn't that BIG-10 education teach you not to end a sentence with a preposition?? However, I will attempt to answer your question anyway. The SEC HQ's is located in Birmingham, AL while BIG-10 HQ's is located in Rosemont, IL. Now since we've gotten that out of the way, can you tell me where the multitude of BIG-10 National Championship Trophies are located? And by multitude I mean TWO? Never mind, I found them, they are in Columbus, OH. However, I did find half of a trophy in Anarbor, MI. from 1997. What is that about? LOL! You can find the SEC NC trophies in Tuscaloosa, AL, Baton Rouge, LA, Gainesville, FL, and Auburn, AL. I heard more will be arriving from Norman OK, and Austin, TX. very soon. NOTE: All of these are only from the year 2000 to the present. All of the others had to be placed in a warehouse as there were too many and cannot be properly displayed until a new facility is constructed. See you on the field dude and congratulations on your new TV deal. LOL🤣🤣🤣
@@VorlonAngel well I guess you can’t afford to see the ships that’s coming in from Cali
Once we get noter dame it’s over for hick states 😂
The SEC is the king of sports
@@robertacosta1293 u mean womens atheltics
You are spelling like a hick. You can also keep your cold weather.
@@robertacosta1293 Nebraska 5 nattys 💯
Cant wait for this year! Lfg Buckeyes Nation Baby
Biggest tv media markets matter, SC & Ruins bring LA market
This is a NCAA conference civil war 😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂 and look it's almost the exact same players as the original civil war. Didn't even realize that til you pointed it out.
Go Huskers
The sec won't come north to play games
They couldn't handle December in the shoe
How is tuition getting ever so higher with 7Billion and no player salaries?
Big 10 has control of the biggest tv markets in the US. That revenue will build top notch facilities and beyond, better recruiting will follow along. This is the beginning of the fall of the SEC and ESPN and I love watching it unfold. Sorry SEC, your time on top is almost over.
diehard UM fan, but i disagree with your recruiting outlook. the best talent is in the south (louisiana, georgia and FLA have an embarrassment of talent every year)
the top recruits won't flock to the big 10 just because a school will get $90M per year from TV contracts. NIL can't be distributed by the school, unless other factors come into play, the best recruits from the south will more than likely stay south
@@kmir224 the players are looking to get a % of the TV money. If that happens, these TV contracts become VERY important
@@LuckyLefty92 Like you said, IF!
@@LuckyLefty92 I'm looking to become Salma Hayek's husband
Neither one is gonna happen
@@VorlonAngel welp only took til the next morning for the commissioner to confirm that they are in fact, looking to pay players 😂
They’re going to give a percentage of the deal to all student athletes. Meaning if you redshirt, you will get paid
The SEC can claim the championships, but much like the Dallas Cowboys, championships don't always mean your team/conference will make the most money. The Cowboys haven't won a title since '95 yet are still the richest NFL franchise in the country. Sometimes you leverage other factors aside from winning games and titles to make money.
Most of the time factors beyond winning and titles drives income. Jerry’s special arrangement with the NFL when they joined guaranteed the cowboys dump trucks full of money forever. He really got over on the NFL in that negotiation and cemented his team as the richest in the league forever, barring some momentous change in structure.
Fake championships
@@mikewilliams9069 Exactly, those are poll championships, not even NCAA championships
Fox 12 cbs 330 nbc 700 and fs1 10 would be awesome
SEC = Alabama + 1 every year the past 15ish years. Mainly due to Saban who is prob the GOAT. Their fans are pretty loyal, mainly cuz they dont have a big market for pro sports outside of ATL, Nashville, TX (TU and OU will help more), and FL (which is honestly more ACC/Group 5 dominate). They produce a lot of great football players locally, so thats going to continue to help. And the weather does help a lot.
But with B1G expansion, they have the largest cities population outside of ATL, DFW, & Orlando (where ever they fall), cover East to West (with sunny Cal avail now, thats huge for local players), and just solid football. Lately its been tOSU but its not like they havent had other schools represent in the CFP.
The only thing ESPN has going for them is they literally own the CFP. Once they start sniffing the other leagues outside of the SEC, then dont be surprised we get rid of the NCAA and put in a commissioner or the B1G makes their own playoffs.
Spot on 💯!!!
Couldn't have said it better, excellent analysis 👏
B1G will always make more money than SEC it is what it is a stated fact!!!
But on the field SEC will continue to be extremely strong and popular because of as u mentioned weather, recruiting area, high school football, religious like fanbases and most of all its success on the field.
"IT JUST MEANS MORE "
Because of that they always be a close 2nd in revenue ,SEC, B1G has the two best products therefore I too can see a B1G, SEC Championship Game
The Big 12 looks like they'll be okay, but ACC ,PAC 12 I don't know 😕
Both the SEC and B1G will be fine. What remains to be seen is if we end up with two super conferences, or if the ACC, Big 12, and PAC can’t form a third. On a related topic, I wonder how this will play out for the CFP contract in 2026?
As to the CFP once the current tv deal is up? They will go to multiple networks like the NFL It means more money and not one network monopolizing it. The B1G, Big 12, ACC, PAC Whatever will NEVER agree to a new deal that only sees ESPN controlling it again. I also think it will expand to at minimum 12 teams and a small chance of expanding it to 16 team playoff.
@@ChrisFeist76 depends on if the Pac 12 Big 12 and ACC are even still a thing or it just becomes a power 2 and Big Ten and SEC teams are the only ones in the playoffs.
Which is why I think the CFP might become pointless and more put on the conference championship game for the Big Ten. I mean sure was it cool to see UofM in the playoffs? Yeah. Did I care that they lost? Nope. They already best OSU and won the Big Ten. That is what matters to aot more of the fan base in Big Ten Football.
Now Basketball, Volleyball, and Gymnastics would be a different story. Especially Basketball.
@@evacody1249 I disagree. You can't tell me Michigan didn't want to win an NC. Part of the problem with the current CFP format and contract is it heavily favors one conference, which happens to have exclusive media rights with the only media outlet for the CFP.
I get it the SEC might be slightly better in football, but let's be real academic prestige might be apart of how much money they recieved..smart people always get paid more...SEC don't compare🤷♂️
LOL! Nobody is paying the Big 10 because of academics. It's about football and basketball and nothing else.
SEC football dominates. The Big Ten is dumm.
@@HTHAMMACK1 they actually are. They get millions of dollars for funding just because they are AAU institutions.
@@PSCA1988 lmao what stewpid comments people in the south are so stewpid
@@PSCA1988 you need a shower smelly
Remember in 2011 when the big ten looked like a joke? The downhill Brady Hoke & Rich Rod Michigan era & the loss to App St.
Ohio state getting the death penalty, going 6-7 & losing to a pathetic Brady Hoke Michigan team.
Michigan St. had Kirk Cousins (that’s embarrassment alone).
Penn St. getting the death penalty
Nebraska, Rutgers & Maryland joined bc they thought they were going to dominate the easy big ten.
Now they’re here recruiting USC & getting a $7 billion deal. Plus the SEC is crying about it
No death penalties happened sir.
SEC just doesn't have enough large markets and the South in general is still much poorer than the North. In short, the money is in the Big Ten footprint. NIL favors Big Ten also in time. SEC, as currently constituted, may be in for a shock in the NIL era.
South > North (Player and humans hate cold weather)
@@brandonhubbard I'm not knocking the South, I live in the South, lol! But a Conference that has half its members in Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, Arkansas, South Carolina and Kentucky just ain't gonna be able to compete in the NIL Era. In fact, the exploitive nature of College Athletics till this point has favored the South since they were artificially able to keep all that talent. But there is hope, namely expanding the SEC into Florida and Texas.
@@VinnieBoombatz374 guarantee the B1G is looking to expand into Florida. I don't usually call anything but I'm calling this; one of those Florida teams is coming to the B1G if for no other reason than the recruiting footprint and the market particularly Miami. Also I wouldn't sleep on a look at a Texas school either particularly if that TA&M rumor has any legitimacy to it. And there's also TCU of course.
@@VinnieBoombatz374 when the big ten starts pulling the coaches away from the Sec big teams you will see the big sec teams legit abandon the sec in time. It’s all headed to a super conference clearly.
The BIG has the best deal in the history of CFB, The BIG is on three major networks, all day long Saturday. I believe this puts them ahead of the SEC by a good margin. They have four of the largest TV markets. Here is the top five TV markets. Mr Warren has done a masterful job in negotiating the best TV contract in the history of College Football.
New York (#1)
Los Angeles (#2)
Chicago (#3)
Philadelphia (#4)
Dallas-Fort Worth (#5)
How earth can ESPN let this happen? They gonna be stuck with a just Clemson in the ACC, CBS is still the Network for top SEC games, Pac-12 is irrelevant outside the west coast, Big 12 is too with Oklahoma and Texas leaving.
It's about college football as a whole . We can't forget about the group of 5 conferences and div 3 and div 4 . All levels of college football need to get a slice of the pie . NCAA needs to regulate college athletics .
It’s fitting, The Northerners are always one step ahead of the Southerners.
💥 kaboom
Paul fineburn is terrible not even worth watching
People are competitive in nature and no more so than those that love their sports and teams. In general, it’s the same argument being made as to who has the superior conference as it is who has the better networks. ESPN and FOX Sports are fighting very much like the SEC and the B1G for bragging rights. ESPN will push the SEC now that they’re excluded and FOX Sports will push for the B1G. Then people will say the other networks (ABC, NBC & CBS) are like the Big 12, ACC and PAC 12.
As for me, I’m a fan of a Blue Blood program and I don’t care which of the conferences we’re in, what team we’re playing, the time of the game or what network it’s on. What matters to me is that I’m watching and rooting each Saturday they’re televised. I live over 1,000 miles from the campus and feel like I’m the winner by getting to consistently watch my boys play. The ultimate goal is the National Championship! The rest of the arguments of who’s theoretically better (conference or network) is a distant second.
The B1G is Network n🤑🤭💪🍑🔥💯
Exactly, Big10 is the top dog, Period..Sankey refuses to expand which will keep the SEC firmly in 2nd place..Big10 has by far the larger TV contract, by Far!, they have more teams with larger markets, they’re bicoastal and they draw the largest viewership!! yes it does..I suppose Sankey is fine with that but as SEC fans are we?
This was all started by the SEC, Big12 and ACC in the 90s with big media contracts while others were on the outside looking in. The B1G is just trying to survive but in doing so have made their brand national while the SEC, ACC and Big 12 are more regional. So those talking about the dominance of the SEC this will most likely end that. It'll be good for college football as well to have competition from all over the nation. The NCAA, ESPN, along with the SEC became a monopoly the last 15 years or so. I think this shift is happening due in part to the continued fall of Disney and its affiliates. The contraction of ESPN is hurting the once dominant sports outlet. Maybe if ESPN had remained in more households the B1G would have continued to decline. It is hard for me to fathom the B1G Network alone is in as many households as ESPN, this before the LA market added to the B1G footprint, both are in about 75 million households. They say the SEC will have similar payouts coming in 2024 from ESPN but that seems highly unlikely at this point unless they generate more exposure thru other outlets. With NIL, transfer portal and CFP expansion the dark days in the B1G could be ending. Unless of course this B1G renewal is somehow ended by others.
If I have to watch two teams run the ball every play at 3:30pm I’m not gonna be happy BIG10 fb is so boring(unless it’s OSU)
CBS is lucly they get one year airing the top sec games and the big ten
CBS is lucly they get one year airing the top sec games and the big ten
Oh no, give me a break.. football fans in NYC, LA, Detroit? Haha are you kidding me.. no doubt there are far more football viewers in Atlanta, Nashville, Birmingham than those other cities.. football is bigger in the south, Period
It's the civil war all over again lol. The Yankees win the North and have a strangle hold on revenue. The south has its pride, but pride won't make you rich 😂
Honestly the SEC is in good hands with ESPN & ABC. Wait till they showcase the SEC championship game on both networks at the same time lol. Plus they'll have more primetime games on display too with both networks. With CBS the top SEC game of the week kick off at 3:30 ET. Now they'll flex that game to 8 ET to bring in more late ratings. They're taking two steps forward not one step backwards. With that being said the Big 10 deal will be monumental. It will close, if not surpass, the SEC in TV ratings but the reak battle they have to win is the talent on the field throughout the conference because the SEC still own that catagory. The SEC now own three of the top five high school talented states when it come to recruiting.
The sec won’t have anymore championships coming !
The Big Ten adds that prominent CBS 330 time slot
NBC is the best production team among everyone out there
Big Ten benefited big time with this.
All these big ten or sec haters in these comment section talking about we have the biggest fan base, our old history is better. But we allll know whos a better conference in present day
I fully expect the SEC to be in the same Neighborhood..
Doubt it because their TV markets are much smaller despite games being compelling. We'll see
I dont get what Big 10 fans think they have won? It's all cyclical. When the SEC goes to make a new deal in the future it will be bigger than the BIg 10s and then the Big 10 will be up for a new deal sometime after that and they will get a bigger deal and everyone's just going to keep getting a bigger deal based off the last deal that was made. Plus tv deals don't help you win football games and the SEC is still going to dominate in that aspect.
Nebraska 5 nattys 💯
Who is the big 10?
A bunch of yankees?
Lol.
SEC, SEC, ,SEC
Yeah the Yankees won the war. lol
Not the first time the North beat the south 😂
@@christopherbaker1176 that good Ole southern education sec schools are junior college compared to the big ten smart guys win
Nebraska 5 nattys 💯