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Agree with all of these rankings, especially Eggman's and heavily agree he shouldn't be reworked to point hes not the same char anymore :'] If Eggman is played by someone who mains him and mastered him (like me but uh i've mained him since Remake TD and have a unholy amount of game experience aka been mastered him) makes him look and tbh feel OP in those right hands. ... Is his best map (ironically) since there's 3 good routes And YCR is his worst map with only 1 decent route. Last note/tip, block really isnt that intimidating if your good at paying attention to big exes animations. So you can pretty much buy a total of 7.5 seconds if you bait the block then activate shock and maybe land shock too. Or you can make exe fall for a baited route scot-free just lead em to it and time it carefully. (Edit: he's balanced now with 2.25 secs of stun and 4 sec duration so he's definitely now slightly better than before)
Another pro for knuckles is short cds, one of the shortest in the game. A con on shadow's homing attack escape method, this is that its pretty hard to land and you might accidentally hit the exe, stopping you from escaping chase. Also another thing, sally's emp and shadow's abilities are a stagger, either slowing, weakening, or knocking back exes, more examples of staggers are rouge's flashbang, slowing the exe, and weakening the exe by decreasing their lunge power for a few seconds, but beware the slowdown and weaken ends before the blinding effect ends. And i dont know why SO MANY PEOPLE THINK METAL IS MEANT TO DIE, he is a survivor, like everyone else, he even has a method to escape chase, for push's escape method, you can throw the exe of the edge by jumping off a ledge just before the push duration runs out, escaping chase, also useful for mobility, the only time you should really use metal's push as a mobility is if it misses. And for grapple, if you land it, and the exe is close enough to a ledge, you can jump off the ledge and land back on, throwing the exe off the ledge, note that this can only be done within the short duration of grapple.
My unnecessarily lengthy opinion on the best maps for certain characters: (I probably won't mention Rouge or Knuckles at all because are roughly the same for any map imo same take for Sally but she is brought up a couple times) Hill - Tails, Cream, Eggman and Amy. Tails is self explanatory, he can glide practically anywhere. Cream is a bit more complex, but you can use her speed boost to get to a lot of places. (e.g. using a spring pad, going in the opposite direction of the closet platform and using boost to another platform) Eggman and Amy are also self explanatory, though its not the best map for them. Shadow and Sally have some shortcuts too, but nothing worth highlighting. (i cba to describe them) H&S - Metal Sonic + any character with high mobility/ close-range stun. Metal Sonic is good because of the amount of places you can drop exe off without falling yourself, same applies to grapple. Tails isn't really great for this map, because there is nowhere you can glide to that exe won't scale within 2 seconds. Due to the size of the map with little to no platforms, someone like Cream or Sally is useful for actually getting across it. Amy and Eggman are alright, the former being worse, but you'll need good timing and precision for their mobility, Amy's being useless in most cases. H&S 2 - Any close-range stunner, Sally, Tails and Shadow. Due to the amount of narrow underground areas in H&S 2, you're going to need self defense to get yourself out of there before you get grabbed lol. (for example, someone like Rouge or Cream w/ out speed boost is basically already dead) Tails and Shadow have a few shortcuts/places to go, nothing too notable but worth a mention. ... - Eggman, Amy, Metal Sonic + any high mobility character (including Tails) Any character with good mobility can get to a numerous amount of places, Cream and Sally being able to make a specific shortcut near main area with their speed boots. Amy has a few good places to use hammer bounce in this map, though she's certainly not the best. The rest should be self explanatory. KindAndFair - Eggman, Tails, Cream, Amy and Shadow Similarly to H&S, this map has little places to actually go to (dips in the ground don't count, all exe has to do is just jump down) which means you're going to want someone who can travel through the map efficiently or get away with an ability. I think all the characters I mentioned don't need any explanation. Eggman has quite a few places he can jetpack to, same for Amy w/ hammer bounce. Base - Eggman, Amy, Metal Sonic, Cream and Rouge I said I wouldn't mention Rouge but due to the claustrophobic-ish nature of Base, she is good for not getting snuffed out and cornered right away. (plus its good to know if exe is lurking around a corner or above you, something sensor might notify you of) Eggman and Amy are self explanatory, though not the most useful here compared to in other maps. Metal Sonic has a few places he can actually scale if carrying large exe with push, and if you time it right you might be able to get up but still drop exe.
Knuckles and Sally are basically the easiest and best survivors, and OP if you play them right(Have you see Knuckles Mains? They are the OG Father members before the "brother" showed up) Sally really needs more love and needs to be in mainline(just upgrade her look and make her like a big sister figure to her friends and we are good)
I feel like rouge is a really good character especially when being chased, with her cooldown being only 12 seconds you can dodge and then do an extra measure to slide afterwards. Flashbang can reveal invis exe, andd she's rarely targeted. I can count a good amount of times where ive flashbanged left and right but the exe just doesnt care because they only care about knux, cream, and metal. One con I can name though is that the flashbang doesnt turn you're screen black longer, which only gives you a quick second to evade and then run away.
gonna state some things as a rouge and shadow main (i started out playing rouge, surprisingly enough lol) rouges flashbang is definitely small and could use a tiny buff, but also you generally don’t see her often in games so most exes don’t know to dodge it, and if you time it right you can make it unavoidable (like having an exe chase you off a small ledge so when they land they get flashed, or putting one down when an exe misses an attack) none of shadows abilities have i frames. it sucks. i have been hit so many times while trying to boost away it’s irritating. also i’ve been hit mid homing attack before, and not even homing attack as in im still targeting, i mean i’m already spinning at the exe and i still get hit or even worse, get grabbed. he could really use some i frames on his boost at the very least, cause it’s not very fun when you’re mid boost and get wacked also one last thing, less from the perspective of a metal and more from the perspective of an exe, using grapple without being near a ledge is a bad idea if you are trying to survive. the exe gets pulled towards you. i’ve gotten lots of grabs on metal players by them grappling me and then instantly running towards them when i get out of it! (that can also be used as a tip for playing big exe against metal btw :) )
Eggman For Me Still The Best He Can Easily Get Away From Exes While Using Jetpack,My Only Problem Is His Nerf... Only if They Put Idk Shock Boost For Every Stun? I Think They Should Buff Him Again Or At Least Buff His Cooldown
I used to use Sally but if they ever add back her roll she's gonna be OP. She's alr annoying enough to deal with, esp if the player times the shield share right
If its alright with you, I would like to add a couple of things to this. Knuckles not having any mobility options means that the fights need to center around him and Sonic. This can be detrimental to him because 1.2 was incredibly mobility focused. If the Sonic chooses to target someone, or they grab a player from far away, he will have no way to help them. Eggman also received three other nerfs. His jetpack-boost went from overpowered in 1.0, to balanced in 1.1, to somewhat weak in 1.2. Not only that, but the radius that shock used to have and the I-frames that were given to him upon activating shock were now removed. This means he has an easier time getting hit while helping out teammates. Since I play Sonic.exe_2 for fun, I have learned just how easy it is to avoid or block hammer attack. Its one of the easiest attacks to see in the game, besides shock and push. Abilities like charge, spindash, and grab can ruin cream, since it takes her so long to heal teammates. Charge is especially aggravating. Please dont take this the wrong way. The teir list was really good, and I agree with every placement besides Cream. I just thought I would give my own thoughts.
Funny thing with Impluse is that it can easily be countered by shock, and potentially can make exe slide for a bit too Spindash is a maybe unless the small knows how to control it properly
Thanks for your opinion! I think cream is good, but she can be bad and really situational at times. Lunge still ruins her tho. She really needs her heal buffed or glide back tbh.
@@theshutuper I have always thought that cream should heal 35 health. This would allow players to not be two shot by Sonic.exe_2. Unfortunately, you would still have to heal a player twice to save them from Sonic.exe, but since he has to land three hits, it makes it a little more balanced. Giving her back glide could be a coin toss. It might be balanced, or op, although I do understand why Out does not want it back.
@@Looona_fanI honestly kinda want glide back as cream was designed to be bad and rely on teammates. And if your teammates are useless then there isn’t really anything she can do because her small hitboxes aren’t gonna help her anymore besides 1.0 due to lunge. I can understand why outlaik doesn’t wanna bring it back though because cream was SO hard to get back in 0.9. She had speedboost and glide and her small hitboxes actually helped her so that’s understandable. It’s stupid. But understandable.
I don't know how to explain but I'll try. Like imagine silver is added to the game and then his throw ability stuns exe for 3 seconds, but then suddenly the creators change him and make his throw stun him for like 1.5 seconds, that's a nerf. It's when a character gets weaker.
I can put rouge at B at best imo. Shes not that great.. she is REALLY AN EASY KILL if you know what your doing as an exe. Her ONLY defense is flashbang which IS EXTREMELY easy to dodge due to the small hitbox?? If you miss your flashbang expect to get a few hits or EVEN a grab from the exe. Her kit needs a whole rework, but shes not as bad as eggman luckily.
@@skulants Honestly I feel like her kit is perfectly fine. Her Flashbang does need a buff though cause it’s incredibly predictable. It’s hitbox and range needs to be buffed and it’s blinding duration. Because that blind debuff doesn’t really last that long on exes
Read this now!1!1!
this video is going to be remade AGAIN in the full release. So you’re gonna be seeing another one of these videos later in October. (This month) I might rate the Halloween costumes also.
ok
Agree with all of these rankings,
especially Eggman's
and heavily agree he shouldn't be reworked to point hes not the same char anymore :']
If Eggman is played by someone who mains him and mastered him
(like me but uh i've mained him since Remake TD and have a unholy amount of game experience aka been mastered him) makes him look and tbh feel OP in those right hands.
... Is his best map (ironically) since there's 3 good routes
And YCR is his worst map with only 1 decent route.
Last note/tip,
block really isnt that intimidating if your good at paying attention to big exes animations.
So you can pretty much buy a total of 7.5 seconds if you bait the block then activate shock and maybe land shock too.
Or you can make exe fall for a baited route scot-free just lead em to it and time it carefully.
(Edit: he's balanced now with 2.25 secs of stun and 4 sec duration so he's definitely now slightly better than before)
Another pro for knuckles is short cds, one of the shortest in the game. A con on shadow's homing attack escape method, this is that its pretty hard to land and you might accidentally hit the exe, stopping you from escaping chase. Also another thing, sally's emp and shadow's abilities are a stagger, either slowing, weakening, or knocking back exes, more examples of staggers are rouge's flashbang, slowing the exe, and weakening the exe by decreasing their lunge power for a few seconds, but beware the slowdown and weaken ends before the blinding effect ends. And i dont know why SO MANY PEOPLE THINK METAL IS MEANT TO DIE, he is a survivor, like everyone else, he even has a method to escape chase, for push's escape method, you can throw the exe of the edge by jumping off a ledge just before the push duration runs out, escaping chase, also useful for mobility, the only time you should really use metal's push as a mobility is if it misses. And for grapple, if you land it, and the exe is close enough to a ledge, you can jump off the ledge and land back on, throwing the exe off the ledge, note that this can only be done within the short duration of grapple.
My unnecessarily lengthy opinion on the best maps for certain characters:
(I probably won't mention Rouge or Knuckles at all because are roughly the same for any map imo
same take for Sally but she is brought up a couple times)
Hill - Tails, Cream, Eggman and Amy.
Tails is self explanatory, he can glide practically anywhere.
Cream is a bit more complex, but you can use her speed boost to get to a lot of places.
(e.g. using a spring pad, going in the opposite direction of the closet platform and using boost to another platform)
Eggman and Amy are also self explanatory, though its not the best map for them.
Shadow and Sally have some shortcuts too, but nothing worth highlighting. (i cba to describe them)
H&S - Metal Sonic + any character with high mobility/ close-range stun.
Metal Sonic is good because of the amount of places you can drop exe off without falling yourself, same applies to grapple.
Tails isn't really great for this map, because there is nowhere you can glide to that exe won't scale within 2 seconds.
Due to the size of the map with little to no platforms, someone like Cream or Sally is useful for actually getting across it.
Amy and Eggman are alright, the former being worse, but you'll need good timing and precision for their mobility, Amy's being useless in most cases.
H&S 2 - Any close-range stunner, Sally, Tails and Shadow.
Due to the amount of narrow underground areas in H&S 2, you're going to need self defense to get yourself out of there before you get grabbed lol.
(for example, someone like Rouge or Cream w/ out speed boost is basically already dead)
Tails and Shadow have a few shortcuts/places to go, nothing too notable but worth a mention.
... - Eggman, Amy, Metal Sonic + any high mobility character (including Tails)
Any character with good mobility can get to a numerous amount of places, Cream and Sally being able to make a specific shortcut near main area with their speed boots.
Amy has a few good places to use hammer bounce in this map, though she's certainly not the best.
The rest should be self explanatory.
KindAndFair - Eggman, Tails, Cream, Amy and Shadow
Similarly to H&S, this map has little places to actually go to (dips in the ground don't count, all exe has to do is just jump down)
which means you're going to want someone who can travel through the map efficiently or get away with an ability.
I think all the characters I mentioned don't need any explanation. Eggman has quite a few places he can jetpack to, same for Amy w/ hammer bounce.
Base - Eggman, Amy, Metal Sonic, Cream and Rouge
I said I wouldn't mention Rouge but due to the claustrophobic-ish nature of Base, she is good for not getting snuffed out and cornered right away.
(plus its good to know if exe is lurking around a corner or above you, something sensor might notify you of)
Eggman and Amy are self explanatory, though not the most useful here compared to in other maps.
Metal Sonic has a few places he can actually scale if carrying large exe with push, and if you time it right you might be able to get up but still drop exe.
Heal is so useless nowadays ppl get clapped faster than in 1.1
Knuckles and Sally are basically the easiest and best survivors, and OP if you play them right(Have you see Knuckles Mains? They are the OG Father members before the "brother" showed up) Sally really needs more love and needs to be in mainline(just upgrade her look and make her like a big sister figure to her friends and we are good)
Another Con for shadow:doesnt have I-frames during any abilities making him vulnerable
I feel like rouge is a really good character especially when being chased, with her cooldown being only 12 seconds you can dodge and then do an extra measure to slide afterwards. Flashbang can reveal invis exe, andd she's rarely targeted. I can count a good amount of times where ive flashbanged left and right but the exe just doesnt care because they only care about knux, cream, and metal.
One con I can name though is that the flashbang doesnt turn you're screen black longer, which only gives you a quick second to evade and then run away.
gonna state some things as a rouge and shadow main (i started out playing rouge, surprisingly enough lol)
rouges flashbang is definitely small and could use a tiny buff, but also you generally don’t see her often in games so most exes don’t know to dodge it, and if you time it right you can make it unavoidable (like having an exe chase you off a small ledge so when they land they get flashed, or putting one down when an exe misses an attack)
none of shadows abilities have i frames. it sucks. i have been hit so many times while trying to boost away it’s irritating. also i’ve been hit mid homing attack before, and not even homing attack as in im still targeting, i mean i’m already spinning at the exe and i still get hit or even worse, get grabbed. he could really use some i frames on his boost at the very least, cause it’s not very fun when you’re mid boost and get wacked
also one last thing, less from the perspective of a metal and more from the perspective of an exe, using grapple without being near a ledge is a bad idea if you are trying to survive. the exe gets pulled towards you. i’ve gotten lots of grabs on metal players by them grappling me and then instantly running towards them when i get out of it! (that can also be used as a tip for playing big exe against metal btw :) )
If they give eggman a tiny speed boost after his shock that would be much better ngl and maybe 125 health but that part is just a stretch
Eggman For Me Still The Best He Can Easily Get Away From Exes While Using Jetpack,My Only Problem Is His Nerf... Only if They Put Idk Shock Boost For Every Stun? I Think They Should Buff Him Again Or At Least Buff His Cooldown
I used to use Sally but if they ever add back her roll she's gonna be OP. She's alr annoying enough to deal with, esp if the player times the shield share right
If its alright with you, I would like to add a couple of things to this.
Knuckles not having any mobility options means that the fights need to center around him and Sonic. This can be detrimental to him because 1.2 was incredibly mobility focused. If the Sonic chooses to target someone, or they grab a player from far away, he will have no way to help them.
Eggman also received three other nerfs. His jetpack-boost went from overpowered in 1.0, to balanced in 1.1, to somewhat weak in 1.2. Not only that, but the radius that shock used to have and the I-frames that were given to him upon activating shock were now removed. This means he has an easier time getting hit while helping out teammates.
Since I play Sonic.exe_2 for fun, I have learned just how easy it is to avoid or block hammer attack. Its one of the easiest attacks to see in the game, besides shock and push.
Abilities like charge, spindash, and grab can ruin cream, since it takes her so long to heal teammates. Charge is especially aggravating.
Please dont take this the wrong way. The teir list was really good, and I agree with every placement besides Cream. I just thought I would give my own thoughts.
Funny thing with Impluse is that it can easily be countered by shock, and potentially can make exe slide for a bit too
Spindash is a maybe unless the small knows how to control it properly
@@EpictoneJuker I always freak out a little bit when I see Sonic Charging at me when I play Robotnick.
Thanks for your opinion! I think cream is good, but she can be bad and really situational at times. Lunge still ruins her tho. She really needs her heal buffed or glide back tbh.
@@theshutuper I have always thought that cream should heal 35 health. This would allow players to not be two shot by Sonic.exe_2. Unfortunately, you would still have to heal a player twice to save them from Sonic.exe, but since he has to land three hits, it makes it a little more balanced. Giving her back glide could be a coin toss. It might be balanced, or op, although I do understand why Out does not want it back.
@@Looona_fanI honestly kinda want glide back as cream was designed to be bad and rely on teammates. And if your teammates are useless then there isn’t really anything she can do because her small hitboxes aren’t gonna help her anymore besides 1.0 due to lunge. I can understand why outlaik doesn’t wanna bring it back though because cream was SO hard to get back in 0.9. She had speedboost and glide and her small hitboxes actually helped her so that’s understandable. It’s stupid. But understandable.
WAIT I WAS IN THE VIDEO SCOPEBILLONS
Does every TD update come in October?
Not always. But most of the updates in this game always come in either October,June,or July.
Luckily knuckles didn't got D tear... Istg i'm gonna hunt the ppl that put knuckles in D tier...
Nah Knux in the right hands is such a huge help in teamwork plus he's a solid solo character that can work in a lot of situations
People just dont play him right. Knuckles is like a much more versatile Metal Sonic.
What is nerf
I don't know how to explain but I'll try. Like imagine silver is added to the game and then his throw ability stuns exe for 3 seconds, but then suddenly the creators change him and make his throw stun him for like 1.5 seconds, that's a nerf. It's when a character gets weaker.
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I can put rouge at B at best imo. Shes not that great.. she is REALLY AN EASY KILL if you know what your doing as an exe. Her ONLY defense is flashbang which IS EXTREMELY easy to dodge due to the small hitbox?? If you miss your flashbang expect to get a few hits or EVEN a grab from the exe. Her kit needs a whole rework, but shes not as bad as eggman luckily.
@@skulants Honestly I feel like her kit is perfectly fine. Her Flashbang does need a buff though cause it’s incredibly predictable. It’s hitbox and range needs to be buffed and it’s blinding duration. Because that blind debuff doesn’t really last that long on exes