Non-duality means that at the core of reality there is no subject-object relation. Only the ultimate. That can be named awareness. But it doesn’t need a name because it it prior to words or meaning itself. It gives birth to reality.
Non-duality is not a concept to be understood. Its a reality that is experienced. There is not just the dissolution of the ego, but also experience that the world is not physically real. It is real but not physically so. Its dreamlike. Consciousness is primary. The whole world including the body appears, disappears.When the world disappears, consciousness remains. Since its not just a concept to be understood, it has be experienced in order to truly understand it.
Non-duality is the understanding that there is only one indivisible, universal awareness or consciousness that is the essence of all experience. This awareness is not separate from the objects of experience, but is rather the very substance of those objects. In other words, the world is not a collection of separate, individual objects, but rather a unified field of awareness in which all apparent objects arise and fall. In the context of non-duality, a human being can be seen as a unique expression of the one universal awareness or consciousness. From this perspective, the boundaries between self and other, subject and object, are seen as illusory, and the individual person is recognized as an inseparable aspect of the greater whole.
Maybe a better term than awareness is "existence", not "existence of" something but pure existence itself...words and language have helped humans evolve and think but they are not perfect agents of delivery of concepts that are transcendent
Nice to see various 'schools' of understanding of this phenomena coming together :) The ego is the main culprit in most forms of mental suffering, and mastering it is the key to life.
Any concept or belief is a story told by the ‘me’. Non-duality means ‘not two’ in other words experience of what is without the story. You can’t work towards non-duality or enlightenment, because there’s no ‘me’. The ‘me’ is a persistent illusion that may or may not dissolve, leaving only what is, which is experience without the story. It’s so utterly simple and obvious that the mind can’t comprehend. Thoughts appear within the ‘what is’ and when it’s seen that there’s no me there’s nobody for the thoughts to attach to. Teaching non-duality (or any technique) that is said to lead towards enlightenment is a story for the ‘me’ that reinforces the sense of separation. ‘Enlightenment’ may or may not be seen only when it’s fully realised that any form of seeking us hopeless. There’s no ‘me’ to teach how to seek, and there’s no ‘me’ who can get rid of the ‘me’. How can you set rid of something that doesn’t exist? So-called enlightenment seems to be an energetic shift that apparently happens, in many cases after years of seeking until it’s seen that seeking is completely hopeless, revealing life to be an unfathomable and wonderful mystery that ‘previously’ seems to have been playing out with a dream of a ‘me’, and none of which ever really happened. This shift in energy can only be experienced, not by a person but by life itself dreaming itself to be a person. It’s completely beyond understanding. There’s nobody to understand it, and none of this has anything to do with the mind 🙏🏼
Advaita Vedanta - over 3800 years ago, In the Vedic era - The Hindus came up with a theory that explains/understands the nature of reality, And non-duality is nothing but an english translation of Advaita. If you want to understand non duality, seek Advaita Vedanta in Hinduism. There is no Christian non-duality or a Islamic non duality or an atheistic non duality. You want to learn about non-duality - start with "Atma Vichara" or self-enquiry into WHO AM I the Ramana Maharishi's way or Adi Shankara's way and you will learn about Non-duality. If you want to listen to an lecture on avacado by someone that's never heard of or tasted or seen an avacado then read or listen to Christian or Islamic teachings on something that is not non duality but is fashioned, shaped and served as non-duality just to get you into their fold. The Abrahamic religions are all about an external god - who is separate from the self. The Creator is not you. And the creation is separate from the creator. This is the core doctrine of all Abrahamic religions. This is the exact opposite of non-duality. Some well meaning folks interpret the biblical writings as non-duality. This is bogus non-duality. I can confidently state that self-enquiry is the far superior method to understanding and experiencing non-duality. It helps if you read up and understand what non-dualism or Advaita is all about before you practice self-enquiry. The Question "WHO AM I" will lead you to a hundred other questions....each one is a precious thought by itself. Each one is a lesson in non-duality.
There's non duality in many other traditions. The same way as not all hinduism is non dual. There's non duality in christian mysticism, sufism and zen.
yes Bible don't refer any nonduality.christians are copy cat .now they are copying yog and meditation and calling Christian yoga and Christian meditation 😂😂😂
there are nuggets of truth in this interview but this is a subtle endeavor that cannot, ever, be captured in words, cognized by the mind (mind is the obscuration), or understood in any real way (because who is it that could or would understand?). there is only the experiencing of non duality , by no one (because experience needs an experiencer and there isn't one.
This guy never breaks eye contact. That would make me slightly uncomfortable, but really I wish I could do that, just maintain unbroken eye contact, i imagine it's very intimate.
Basically yes but persistent. It's persistently living with less and less ego until there's no more ego. Just do some concentration meditation or microdose LSD and you'll get a sense of what it's like. basically living more like that all the time without actually having to do anything to get there. That becomes your default. But also minus the emotions, tensions, energetic sensations those come and go and as you get far along the path they go away largely maybe even completely
Nonduality...a must read is Baliany, Rulert Spira . In duality there is God and there is You, in Nonduality there is only God and nothing else and our sense on individualism is like a bubble that floats and is individual but when it pops is the same thing that where it was floating.
Know Yourself: An Explanation of the Oneness of Being Ibn Arabi; Awhad Al-din Balyani is a most wonderful read. th-cam.com/video/mLOuapXpzLU/w-d-xo.html
Interested in God and Consciousness? Why not talk directly with Near-death experiencers who had a direct, first-hand experience with God? Almost all NDE's confirm there is God. So why settle for people who are merely speculating on the existence or nonexistence of God? There are already testimonies from hundredss or thousands who actually know from real experience there is God.
@Jeffery Martin - the statement where you speak about emotion becoming more and more positive (postive as opposite to negative?) and then "all emotion falls away" is very odd. Perhaps it is your use (and interpretation) of the word emotion, but why on earth would all emotion fall away when the "person construction" dissolves? It is probably more accurate to say that when the beliefs and constant thinking/evaluating/judging of "person" is no longer taken seriously (identified with) "feeling" is freed up and can just be whatever it is. Totally not clear what you meant to say there, unless you use the word emotion in a way where it has nothing to do with feeling. (th-cam.com/video/kVXSayKzGt8/w-d-xo.html) In other words: the human experience does not disappear... even when the ego identification has "dissolved".
It's always here and now whatever is experienced! Whether you're talking, doing something, thinking, silent etc. It's always here and now whatever age you are. Everything happens in that space of being aware, which is silent, but unexplainably always present! The brain and the mind is impermanent. Proof of this is that it disappears when suffering from dementia, brain cancer or the result of a severe stroke. Non duality is simply the awareness that's always here and now, whether with a conditioned mind or with with no mind.
That is only half true. There is a "consciousness" and correct, once your "mind" and brain is gone as they are not permanent, there remains the soul-"body" which is in a different dimensional state, a "fine-matter" that does not interact physically with the rest of your body and that part is still receiving and producing "awareness" in a rather dreamlike unconscious way. Still it is there as the soul is permanent and cannot die, at least not by normal death causes. It's another view another belief certainly too, and you may reject it, but it is a brighter and wide open view. It will await you, too!
I would not like to think only way to reach nirvana is not to care, know or feel anything, because i can't imagine anything more enlightened than eternal bliss of pure oblivion. Would be somehow strange to know and experience everything first, than forget about all that later and claim working and learning made you better somehow, but now you don't need anything anymore. This is the obvious way to became aetherical being, try to compete first and realize how fragile, temporal and worthless all in life actually is. Not sure how all those people could still communicate their experience, can't be free of material if they can still speak. Bliss is not very social space, it's not like somebody could enter hallucination and share enlightened state. It's art of being alone, at best. And if it's art, so it can be shared, why not be alone together with everybody else. It's not like anybody has a choice, there's no place on Earth a man to be all alone this days and we wouldn't last long anyway. We are all kinda enlightened this days, so many people share so many things, given by love, not conquered in wars. Modern civilization kinda defeats the purpose of enlightenment, why waste time, specially youth, when body function and feel at it's best. Every nation should teach basic meditation in kindergartens, free of all ideology and metaphysics, just helping kids to experience some natural abilities of their naive and empty minds. It's very pleasant once you learn how to breath and travel with thought over every part of your body, or wake up in a lucid dream, this should be a part of primary curriculum, just as learning how to read and write is.
love this! I agree wholeheartedly. I was stuck in an unpleasant dream last night. It was lucid and I could control my actions but I couldn't get out. I then focused on performing a song. I created one in my dream and the words in it were "wake up". It was actually quite powerful and I was able to wake up. I then hummed the tune and still remembered the song. What an amazing experience. I'm sure all the geniuses of the world came up with their best work in their dreams.
@@xcotty3915 Come to think about it, entire human civilization is built on nothing but a dream. Universe is probabilities and chances, conscious dreams are corruption in natural order of things. Makes sense, since everything is just a distortion in quantum force fields... whatever.
This is really deep and true! Thanks. Yet a very old realisation that also Gautama later becoming Buddha realised. What is all joy for if there is another who is desperately suffering and being tortured? Why do we have all these life experiences, when ultimately it all disappears and dissolves anyway? We cannot escape, we have to suffer alone from this recognition. Therefore there is religion, to help us out. Some try it by reaching non-dual states of mind, okay. But the common man/woman/ whatever..? What is their solution? Nobody can permanently escape from reality- so stoic fatalism was the answer for the Greeks that discovered the dilemma. It's not new at all.
Martin has one point very wrong. Non-duality has nothing to do with belief. Belief is a thing of the mind. Non-duality or the non dual state is based in pure experience without the distortion or mental overlay of belief.
I hold to a more Materialist view of Non-Duality. The idea that everything arises from a mysterious, unknowable, and seemingly unconscious, Infinite Oneness that follows its own path. My best bet is to try align myself with it. Call it Life, call it Nature. Call it Reality. It's a kind of atheist religion to me. A sort of organized approach in dealing with a chaotic Reality that will eventually swallow me back into the peaceful Oblivion from whence I came. Daoism (among many others) was majorly influential in helping me formulate this view.
At the core it is the same? Can understanding progress by taking a belief system and integrating it into a preexisting system that does not know or question fundamental ideas of truth?
Ultimately humans must live self-truth: we know we are material, on the other hand we know there's some more to us. I said we know because it is an existential, and epistemologically, 'properly basic' persistent experience.
Nah, then the show would have to be called “Truth”, cuz nonduality is the ultimate source of reality, One consciousness experiencing itself through infinite realities, since nothing is limiting nothingness from the outside from becoming everything.
It's not profound it's delusional and spiritual bypassing at the most extreme scale. The belief in "no self" and "Infinite awareness experiencing itself" and the classic "suffering is love/ people aren't real" are a clear attempt to escape reality, fear of death and pain/ suffering using spiritual concepts. Why did these philosophies come into existence? Well 3500+ years ago when non Duality most likely originated the world was in a state of ignorance and disease's, pain, death and suffering was common place and living conditions were hellish. That's why they developed these philosophies that depict life as hell and something to be escaped. However through science, medicine and technology we have developed a much more superior understanding of mind and the universe which I argue leaves Non-duality looking like a pile of garbage in comparison. Can Non Duality remove disease's like science? Can Non Duality develop technologies and medicine that increase our quality of life and make the world a better place? Can Non-duality bring countries out of poverty and remove unnecessary suffering? Can Non Duality make predictions about the weather? Can Non Duality explain how the universe works? No. Non Duality is simply for the weak minded who are afraid to face death and pain/ suffering. What's more noble? Making the world a better place though developing new technologies, medicine and science that make an actual and measurable positive impact on the world? Or pretending everything is an illusion and running away the world through a spiritual bypassing/ coping mechanism such as Non-duality?
@@FootyFrenzyHD I understand the term spiritual bypassing better after reading your reply. I have found nonduality to be a reduction of wonder and beauty. I do not deny there is a way of looking at life where all is one, but I think seeing the ways in which we are not one is richer, more wondrous, and more challenging. Seeing the vast variety of selves doesn't remove the responsibility to empathize or strive toward betterment or communion. On the contrary it pushes us to enlarge ourselves. The all-is-one thing leaves me with a feeling of blandness like tapioca pudding.
When you say its SOMETHING ELSE you already dualized it! X is not Y...there is no one, no two, nor no something else, in your little diatribe right there...and yes I do understand what the fundamental idea is regarding all systems being connected and interdependent. On that note Entanglement in Physics comes to mind.
HA HA Had to laugh, everything that was said is just a story told by a fool, all these terms, enlightenment, liberation, non-duality were all created by the seemingly apparent self, but there is no self, self is just a mental construct that is totally illusory, really not even worth mentioning...lol
You can’t talk about nonduality and individuality simultaneously. The diamond sutra is quite clear on that: Buddha then asked, “What do you think, Subhuti, does one who has entered the stream which flows to Enlightenment, say ‘I have entered the stream’?” “No, Buddha”, Subhuti replied. “A true disciple entering the stream would not think of themselves as a separate person that could be entering anything. Only that disciple who does not differentiate themselves from others, who has no regard for name, shape, sound, odor, taste, touch or for any quality can truly be called a disciple who has entered the stream.”
@closer to truth Almost all videos have bad sound quality. This is quite disappointing though the content quality of the channel is fantastic. Could you please please fix that?
...did this guy just say "there's more than one nonduality?" ...Oh dear... ALL of Robert Lawrence Kuhn's questions...ALL of them... would be resolved if he actually sat his butt down with someone who actually knew what the heck they were talking about on this non-subject subject...at this rate, Robert's obviously earnest desire to be "closer to truth" is destined to keep "Truth" on an ever receding horizon...the seekers dilemma for time immemorial...
@@TheParadiseParadox ….firstly there cannot be multiple ways to experience what is by definition a Unity…ie:Advaita…ie: Nonduality…ie: “not two”… …and secondly, all my initial comment was suggesting is that there are about a hundred genuine “teachers” of this particular subject matter that would be far more qualified and far more credible in talking to Robert about this Uber slippery subject matter…🙏🏻
@@333010101 who is Robert The universe might be one thing, but there are many ways to experience it. Likewise, there may be many ways to have a nondual experience
Non duality is simply a fact that can illuminate any path. This speaker turns non duality into an experience to be acquired. This amounts to using what you’re looking for to look for itself. Suggestion instead: as what you are, see what you’re not. Hint: you’re always already nonduality, looking for itself as if you’re separate.
Jeffrey wants to overcome the "language" problem as he describes it, and for him "non-dualism" is just a label. And there he is right, like "marxism" is in the end also just a label for many forms of collectivism or non-individualism or...or. Once you erase one label you've got another one that is again a label... Ludwig Wittgenstein in the 1920ies found that (or rediscovered it) and made it popular. The French philosophical school of Derrida, Sartre, Foucault etc. who are constructivist, deconstructivist or structuralist derive from this that we ate only producing linguistic "phenomena" in a sense "nothing is real" or we cannot look behind and beyond the veil that lays over all that is reality. That is frustrating and I personally do not buy it. It leads to the same that non-dualism wants to achieve. I believe a personal God or as the music group "Depeche Mode" said in a song everybody has his "personal Jesus" is true. As closest to truth as can be.
Ufff.... so many people defining non duality.... everyone in a different way... some in a very simple way... others very complex.... conclusion.... n o b o d y k n o w s ! ! ! 🤣🤣🤣... although they certainly feel they know it very well....
Enlightment is not nondualism/ but an altered definition of reality, including a higher definition of it as an entanglement, which the previous state had skipped, leading to its typical dualism.
For heaven's sake, already (!) This kind of discussion goes nowhere and will never go anywhere. Stop trying to describe it to Kuhn . . . and POINT HIM TO IT instead. Sheesh . .
It's so painfully obvious that these interviews take place in a green screen room. Just do it in a normal room it must be awfully depressing to have a conversation in a shitty fake environment
Finally someone explains the term instead of puking a bunch of dogmatic gobblie-guck in my ear. I searched videos for "what does nonduality mean?" and whoa, everyone starts rambling about the mind of no mind inside the little mind of the whole mind behind the great mind of mindless mindfulness that comes after the mindfulness of the mindless ultimate mind of the mind of my guru's mindfulness'es mindlessness that is beyond all mind, perfectly in the center of all mindless mindfulness that is.
Your quest for the ultimate truth will never be complete if you leave out the studies/researches on Near-death experiences since these definitely support and affirm many "truths" held on the basis of faith or reasoning.alone. NDE's are real personal experiences that uphold that Consciousness is beyond the brain, that God exists as unconditional love and light, that we are Spiritual beings who chose to incarnate in physical bodies for some mission, that we are one with or a part of God, that the most important thing in life is love.
Spinoza/Ethics/one substance..... probably most focused logic on non duality.... notice that there is many layers of logic and u only understand level u r on ,anyone above is clever(crazy ) for u and anyone under stupid... the problem is that we build conclusions on illusory base which base can be only experienced not concluded...once experienced (the base) its all clear,no wisdom needed...its obvious-its fucking one(how could be 2) ...... and btw i am working as a builder no education Don’t need intelligence to see non duality ...
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Its almost painful to see. On one hand the guy pats himself and the west for "cognitive science based terms" and then completely plays fast and loose with what consciousness is.
Non-duality means that at the core of reality there is no subject-object relation. Only the ultimate. That can be named awareness. But it doesn’t need a name because it it prior to words or meaning itself. It gives birth to reality.
Non-duality is not a concept to be understood. Its a reality that is experienced. There is not just the dissolution of the ego, but also experience that the world is not physically real. It is real but not physically so. Its dreamlike. Consciousness is primary. The whole world including the body appears, disappears.When the world disappears, consciousness remains. Since its not just a concept to be understood, it has be experienced in order to truly understand it.
Rupert Spira would be a great interview partner for non-duality.
That echo makes him sound like two people talking at the same time, ironically given the subject
Non-duality is the understanding that there is only one indivisible, universal awareness or consciousness that is the essence of all experience. This awareness is not separate from the objects of experience, but is rather the very substance of those objects. In other words, the world is not a collection of separate, individual objects, but rather a unified field of awareness in which all apparent objects arise and fall.
In the context of non-duality, a human being can be seen as a unique expression of the one universal awareness or consciousness. From this perspective, the boundaries between self and other, subject and object, are seen as illusory, and the individual person is recognized as an inseparable aspect of the greater whole.
Maybe a better term than awareness is "existence", not "existence of" something but pure existence itself...words and language have helped humans evolve and think but they are not perfect agents of delivery of concepts that are transcendent
I think I understood non duality better from this interview more than the previous one .
I think everyone did...
I think they should take that other video down. I was cringing so hard.
nonduality is the self realizing itself as pure consciousness.
Beautifully said
Nice to see various 'schools' of understanding of this phenomena coming together :) The ego is the main culprit in most forms of mental suffering, and mastering it is the key to life.
The funny thing is the ego is a big part of what separates the schools.
Any concept or belief is a story told by the ‘me’. Non-duality means ‘not two’ in other words experience of what is without the story. You can’t work towards non-duality or enlightenment, because there’s no ‘me’. The ‘me’ is a persistent illusion that may or may not dissolve, leaving only what is, which is experience without the story. It’s so utterly simple and obvious that the mind can’t comprehend. Thoughts appear within the ‘what is’ and when it’s seen that there’s no me there’s nobody for the thoughts to attach to.
Teaching non-duality (or any technique) that is said to lead towards enlightenment is a story for the ‘me’ that reinforces the sense of separation. ‘Enlightenment’ may or may not be seen only when it’s fully realised that any form of seeking us hopeless. There’s no ‘me’ to teach how to seek, and there’s no ‘me’ who can get rid of the ‘me’. How can you set rid of something that doesn’t exist?
So-called enlightenment seems to be an energetic shift that apparently happens, in many cases after years of seeking until it’s seen that seeking is completely hopeless, revealing life to be an unfathomable and wonderful mystery that ‘previously’ seems to have been playing out with a dream of a ‘me’, and none of which ever really happened. This shift in energy can only be experienced, not by a person but by life itself dreaming itself to be a person. It’s completely beyond understanding. There’s nobody to understand it, and none of this has anything to do with the mind 🙏🏼
Advaita Vedanta - over 3800 years ago, In the Vedic era - The Hindus came up with a theory that explains/understands the nature of reality, And non-duality is nothing but an english translation of Advaita. If you want to understand non duality, seek Advaita Vedanta in Hinduism. There is no Christian non-duality or a Islamic non duality or an atheistic non duality. You want to learn about non-duality - start with "Atma Vichara" or self-enquiry into WHO AM I the Ramana Maharishi's way or Adi Shankara's way and you will learn about Non-duality. If you want to listen to an lecture on avacado by someone that's never heard of or tasted or seen an avacado then read or listen to Christian or Islamic teachings on something that is not non duality but is fashioned, shaped and served as non-duality just to get you into their fold. The Abrahamic religions are all about an external god - who is separate from the self. The Creator is not you. And the creation is separate from the creator. This is the core doctrine of all Abrahamic religions. This is the exact opposite of non-duality. Some well meaning folks interpret the biblical writings as non-duality. This is bogus non-duality.
I can confidently state that self-enquiry is the far superior method to understanding and experiencing non-duality. It helps if you read up and understand what non-dualism or Advaita is all about before you practice self-enquiry. The Question "WHO AM I" will lead you to a hundred other questions....each one is a precious thought by itself. Each one is a lesson in non-duality.
The greatest method for experiencing nonduality is 5-MeO-DMT.
There's non duality in many other traditions. The same way as not all hinduism is non dual. There's non duality in christian mysticism, sufism and zen.
My non duality is better than yours 😆
yes Bible don't refer any nonduality.christians are copy cat .now they are copying yog and meditation and calling Christian yoga and Christian meditation 😂😂😂
Oh comic book Bible has non dual concept.i didn't know nice comedy average western jealous kid😂
there are nuggets of truth in this interview but this is a subtle endeavor that cannot, ever, be captured in words, cognized by the mind (mind is the obscuration), or understood in any real way (because who is it that could or would understand?). there is only the experiencing of non duality , by no one (because experience needs an experiencer and there isn't one.
This guy never breaks eye contact. That would make me slightly uncomfortable, but really I wish I could do that, just maintain unbroken eye contact, i imagine it's very intimate.
To each their own. I found it disturbing.
Non-duality is not a state...persistent or not.
not a state but is a concept
@@williamcallahan5218 And a very delusional concept
So basically heroic dose ego death in the mushroom sense.
Not really. It's understanding that there is no ego to die.
5-MeO-DMT
Basically yes but persistent. It's persistently living with less and less ego until there's no more ego. Just do some concentration meditation or microdose LSD and you'll get a sense of what it's like. basically living more like that all the time without actually having to do anything to get there. That becomes your default. But also minus the emotions, tensions, energetic sensations those come and go and as you get far along the path they go away largely maybe even completely
Nonduality...a must read is Baliany, Rulert Spira . In duality there is God and there is You, in Nonduality there is only God and nothing else and our sense on individualism is like a bubble that floats and is individual but when it pops is the same thing that where it was floating.
Know Yourself: An Explanation of the Oneness of Being
Ibn Arabi; Awhad Al-din Balyani is a most wonderful read. th-cam.com/video/mLOuapXpzLU/w-d-xo.html
@@williamcallahan5218 th-cam.com/video/CMoahwZG4_Y/w-d-xo.html
Interested in God and Consciousness? Why not talk directly with Near-death experiencers who had a direct, first-hand experience with God? Almost all NDE's confirm there is God. So why settle for people who are merely speculating on the existence or nonexistence of God? There are already testimonies from hundredss or thousands who actually know from real experience there is God.
@Jeffery Martin - the statement where you speak about emotion becoming more and more positive (postive as opposite to negative?) and then "all emotion falls away" is very odd. Perhaps it is your use (and interpretation) of the word emotion, but why on earth would all emotion fall away when the "person construction" dissolves? It is probably more accurate to say that when the beliefs and constant thinking/evaluating/judging of "person" is no longer taken seriously (identified with) "feeling" is freed up and can just be whatever it is. Totally not clear what you meant to say there, unless you use the word emotion in a way where it has nothing to do with feeling. (th-cam.com/video/kVXSayKzGt8/w-d-xo.html) In other words: the human experience does not disappear... even when the ego identification has "dissolved".
It's always here and now whatever is experienced! Whether you're talking, doing something, thinking, silent etc. It's always here and now whatever age you are. Everything happens in that space of being aware, which is silent, but unexplainably always present! The brain and the mind is impermanent. Proof of this is that it disappears when suffering from dementia, brain cancer or the result of a severe stroke. Non duality is simply the awareness that's always here and now, whether with a conditioned mind or with with no mind.
That is only half true. There is a "consciousness" and correct, once your "mind" and brain is gone as they are not permanent, there remains the soul-"body" which is in a different dimensional state, a "fine-matter" that does not interact physically with the rest of your body and that part is still receiving and producing "awareness" in a rather dreamlike unconscious way. Still it is there as the soul is permanent and cannot die, at least not by normal death causes.
It's another view another belief certainly too, and you may reject it, but it is a brighter and wide open view. It will await you, too!
I would not like to think only way to reach nirvana is not to care, know or feel anything, because i can't imagine anything more enlightened than eternal bliss of pure oblivion. Would be somehow strange to know and experience everything first, than forget about all that later and claim working and learning made you better somehow, but now you don't need anything anymore. This is the obvious way to became aetherical being, try to compete first and realize how fragile, temporal and worthless all in life actually is.
Not sure how all those people could still communicate their experience, can't be free of material if they can still speak. Bliss is not very social space, it's not like somebody could enter hallucination and share enlightened state. It's art of being alone, at best. And if it's art, so it can be shared, why not be alone together with everybody else. It's not like anybody has a choice, there's no place on Earth a man to be all alone this days and we wouldn't last long anyway. We are all kinda enlightened this days, so many people share so many things, given by love, not conquered in wars.
Modern civilization kinda defeats the purpose of enlightenment, why waste time, specially youth, when body function and feel at it's best. Every nation should teach basic meditation in kindergartens, free of all ideology and metaphysics, just helping kids to experience some natural abilities of their naive and empty minds. It's very pleasant once you learn how to breath and travel with thought over every part of your body, or wake up in a lucid dream, this should be a part of primary curriculum, just as learning how to read and write is.
love this! I agree wholeheartedly. I was stuck in an unpleasant dream last night. It was lucid and I could control my actions but I couldn't get out. I then focused on performing a song. I created one in my dream and the words in it were "wake up". It was actually quite powerful and I was able to wake up. I then hummed the tune and still remembered the song. What an amazing experience. I'm sure all the geniuses of the world came up with their best work in their dreams.
@@xcotty3915 Come to think about it, entire human civilization is built on nothing but a dream. Universe is probabilities and chances, conscious dreams are corruption in natural order of things. Makes sense, since everything is just a distortion in quantum force fields... whatever.
This is really deep and true! Thanks. Yet a very old realisation that also Gautama later becoming Buddha realised. What is all joy for if there is another who is desperately suffering and being tortured?
Why do we have all these life experiences, when ultimately it all disappears and dissolves anyway?
We cannot escape, we have to suffer alone from this recognition. Therefore there is religion, to help us out. Some try it by reaching non-dual states of mind, okay. But the common man/woman/ whatever..? What is their solution?
Nobody can permanently escape from reality- so stoic fatalism was the answer for the Greeks that discovered the dilemma. It's not new at all.
Martin has one point very wrong. Non-duality has nothing to do with belief. Belief is a thing of the mind. Non-duality or the non dual state is based in pure experience without the distortion or mental overlay of belief.
I hold to a more Materialist view of Non-Duality. The idea that everything arises from a mysterious, unknowable, and seemingly unconscious, Infinite Oneness that follows its own path. My best bet is to try align myself with it. Call it Life, call it Nature. Call it Reality. It's a kind of atheist religion to me. A sort of organized approach in dealing with a chaotic Reality that will eventually swallow me back into the peaceful Oblivion from whence I came. Daoism (among many others) was majorly influential in helping me formulate this view.
What makes you so sure the oblivion is in any way peaceful?
In this and previous clips the guests have an echo in their voice, as if the sound is being captured by two microphones that are not quite synced.
I dislike that out of focus start. Is that really creative?
I always think for a second either my monitor is broken or I am getting blind.
@@Funnysterste lol
Did that guy blink at all?
It's also not talking about an experience or an emotion. It's talking about that which is aware of an experience or an emotion.
At the core it is the same? Can understanding progress by taking a belief system and integrating it into a preexisting system that does not know or question fundamental ideas of truth?
Ultimately humans must live self-truth: we know we are material, on the other hand we know there's some more to us. I said we know because it is an existential, and epistemologically, 'properly basic' persistent experience.
Non-duality is the unity that underlies apparent multiplicity.
Closer to truth needs more exploration of this and related topics....
Nah, then the show would have to be called “Truth”, cuz nonduality is the ultimate source of reality, One consciousness experiencing itself through infinite realities, since nothing is limiting nothingness from the outside from becoming everything.
All these feelings are nothing more than states of brains.
And a brain is nothing but an image in mind
I don't disagree with nonduality. I just don't find it profound.
Because you are coming from an abstract and intelligent perspective, which is nothing
It's not profound it's delusional and spiritual bypassing at the most extreme scale. The belief in "no self" and "Infinite awareness experiencing itself" and the classic "suffering is love/ people aren't real" are a clear attempt to escape reality, fear of death and pain/ suffering using spiritual concepts. Why did these philosophies come into existence? Well 3500+ years ago when non Duality most likely originated the world was in a state of ignorance and disease's, pain, death and suffering was common place and living conditions were hellish. That's why they developed these philosophies that depict life as hell and something to be escaped. However through science, medicine and technology we have developed a much more superior understanding of mind and the universe which I argue leaves Non-duality looking like a pile of garbage in comparison. Can Non Duality remove disease's like science? Can Non Duality develop technologies and medicine that increase our quality of life and make the world a better place? Can Non-duality bring countries out of poverty and remove unnecessary suffering? Can Non Duality make predictions about the weather? Can Non Duality explain how the universe works? No. Non Duality is simply for the weak minded who are afraid to face death and pain/ suffering. What's more noble? Making the world a better place though developing new technologies, medicine and science that make an actual and measurable positive impact on the world? Or pretending everything is an illusion and running away the world through a spiritual bypassing/ coping mechanism such as Non-duality?
@@FootyFrenzyHD I understand the term spiritual bypassing better after reading your reply. I have found nonduality to be a reduction of wonder and beauty. I do not deny there is a way of looking at life where all is one, but I think seeing the ways in which we are not one is richer, more wondrous, and more challenging. Seeing the vast variety of selves doesn't remove the responsibility to empathize or strive toward betterment or communion. On the contrary it pushes us to enlarge ourselves. The all-is-one thing leaves me with a feeling of blandness like tapioca pudding.
one implies many as well as none, which distinguishes non-duality from the idea of "oneness". it's not one nor is it dual, it's something else
When you say its SOMETHING ELSE you already dualized it! X is not Y...there is no one, no two, nor no something else, in your little diatribe right there...and yes I do understand what the fundamental idea is regarding all systems being connected and interdependent. On that note Entanglement in Physics comes to mind.
its not a something
But the real question is, why does Jeffrey have a robot effect on his voice?
A lecture on avocados by someone that’s never tasted an avocado . 😳🙄🤓
HA HA Had to laugh, everything that was said is just a story told by a fool, all these terms, enlightenment, liberation, non-duality were all created by the seemingly apparent self, but there is no self, self is just a mental construct that is totally illusory, really not even worth mentioning...lol
Another answer to "What is nonduality?" - th-cam.com/video/5abhw-J-6oI/w-d-xo.html
You can’t talk about nonduality and individuality simultaneously. The diamond sutra is quite clear on that:
Buddha then asked, “What do you think, Subhuti, does one who has entered the stream which flows to Enlightenment, say ‘I have entered the stream’?”
“No, Buddha”, Subhuti replied. “A true disciple entering the stream would not think of themselves as a separate person that could be entering anything. Only that disciple who does not differentiate themselves from others, who has no regard for name, shape, sound, odor, taste, touch or for any quality can truly be called a disciple who has entered the stream.”
nice
He doesn't blink
Thank you, thank you. Oneness is our experience. Xxx
When I take that corner and hear d tyres screeching, I’m one with my car...
Just don't try to get one with the corner.
Funnysterste ; u mean that tree at the corner...
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Almost all videos have bad sound quality. This is quite disappointing though the content quality of the channel is fantastic.
Could you please please fix that?
that guy have interesting voice, kinda robotic, built in auto-tune
Thanks to you both, great explanation,
...did this guy just say "there's more than one nonduality?" ...Oh dear... ALL of Robert Lawrence Kuhn's questions...ALL of them... would be resolved if he actually sat his butt down with someone who actually knew what the heck they were talking about on this non-subject subject...at this rate, Robert's obviously earnest desire to be "closer to truth" is destined to keep "Truth" on an ever receding horizon...the seekers dilemma for time immemorial...
he's saying there is different ways of experiencing it
@@TheParadiseParadox …then I think that would be Multi-duality…
@@333010101 it would be multiple ways of experiencing non duality.
@@TheParadiseParadox ….firstly there cannot be multiple ways to experience what is by definition a Unity…ie:Advaita…ie: Nonduality…ie: “not two”…
…and secondly, all my initial comment was suggesting is that there are about a hundred genuine “teachers” of this particular subject matter that would be far more qualified and far more credible in talking to Robert about this Uber slippery subject matter…🙏🏻
@@333010101 who is Robert
The universe might be one thing, but there are many ways to experience it. Likewise, there may be many ways to have a nondual experience
Non duality is simply a fact that can illuminate any path. This speaker turns non duality into an experience to be acquired. This amounts to using what you’re looking for to look for itself. Suggestion instead: as what you are, see what you’re not. Hint: you’re always already nonduality, looking for itself as if you’re separate.
Jeffrey wants to overcome the "language" problem as he describes it, and for him "non-dualism" is just a label. And there he is right, like "marxism" is in the end also just a label for many forms of collectivism or non-individualism or...or.
Once you erase one label you've got another one that is again a label...
Ludwig Wittgenstein in the 1920ies found that (or rediscovered it) and made it popular. The French philosophical school of Derrida, Sartre, Foucault etc. who are constructivist, deconstructivist or structuralist derive from this that we ate only producing linguistic "phenomena" in a sense "nothing is real" or we cannot look behind and beyond the veil that lays over all that is reality. That is frustrating and I personally do not buy it. It leads to the same that non-dualism wants to achieve. I believe a personal God or as the music group "Depeche Mode" said in a song everybody has his "personal Jesus" is true. As closest to truth as can be.
Dude, blink!!!!
Ufff.... so many people defining non duality.... everyone in a different way... some in a very simple way... others very complex.... conclusion.... n o b o d y k n o w s ! ! ! 🤣🤣🤣... although they certainly feel they know it very well....
Finally someone recognises that non duality is a psychological issue, it is a state of mind.
Enlightment is not nondualism/ but an altered definition of reality, including a higher definition of it as an entanglement, which the previous state had skipped, leading to its typical dualism.
For heaven's sake, already (!) This kind of discussion goes nowhere and will never go anywhere. Stop trying to describe it to Kuhn . . . and POINT HIM TO IT instead. Sheesh . .
This dude creeps me out
It's so painfully obvious that these interviews take place in a green screen room. Just do it in a normal room it must be awfully depressing to have a conversation in a shitty fake environment
the video is the video but we all see it differently because of our own personal cognition
Is that the guy from Cobra Kai ??
Finally someone explains the term instead of puking a bunch of dogmatic gobblie-guck in my ear. I searched videos for "what does nonduality mean?" and whoa, everyone starts rambling about the mind of no mind inside the little mind of the whole mind behind the great mind of mindless mindfulness that comes after the mindfulness of the mindless ultimate mind of the mind of my guru's mindfulness'es mindlessness that is beyond all mind, perfectly in the center of all mindless mindfulness that is.
This guy doesnt wink,
Your quest for the ultimate truth will never be complete if you leave out the studies/researches on Near-death experiences since these definitely support and affirm many "truths" held on the basis of faith or reasoning.alone. NDE's are real personal experiences that uphold that Consciousness is beyond the brain, that God exists as unconditional love and light, that we are Spiritual beings who chose to incarnate in physical bodies for some mission, that we are one with or a part of God, that the most important thing in life is love.
Spinoza/Ethics/one substance..... probably most focused logic on non duality.... notice that there is many layers of logic and u only understand level u r on ,anyone above is clever(crazy ) for u and anyone under stupid... the problem is that we build conclusions on illusory base which base can be only experienced not concluded...once experienced (the base) its all clear,no wisdom needed...its obvious-its fucking one(how could be 2) ...... and btw i am working as a builder no education Don’t need intelligence to see non duality ...
The Matrix
his eye contact is terrifying
haha.. i found it kind of inspiring
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whatever.
This video is overthinking it and misrepresenting it.
Its almost painful to see. On one hand the guy pats himself and the west for "cognitive science based terms" and then completely plays fast and loose with what consciousness is.
Sounds like Wu Wei.
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This dude does not know what he is talking about...
Sounds like a load of bollocks
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