I've done this job a few times years ago. You basically did everything I used to do except find away to drill out the divit. I used to clamp the tap in a vice & tap the crankshaft away from it releasing the sludge tube. You did good.
Well that brought back memories, i used to do that at a well known Triumph spares place before they closed up and i retired 20+ years ago. Thank heavens we now have detergent oil and paper oil filters!
Hi, I get lots of stuff for cars and bikes but not everybody wants the world to know what's been repaired or modified on their pride and joy. otherwise I would have a lot more to show. cheers
I am wondering if the crankshaft is still balanced after inserting the new sludge tube, because you mentioned the old one had thicker walls than the new tube, so the new one will be lighter than the old one which will disturb the balance of the crankshaft... I know this particular crankshaft is not meant to be used in a running engine, but still, if you use such a replacement tube for a runninfg engine this will cause problems...
Hi, very true but, I would imagine that the difference would have been negligible compared to the amount of sludge I dug out of it, the sludge alone must have been twice the weight of a new tube. I wonder how accurate crank balancing was when the crank was first built. I will probably never know. Still, when the main flywheel is removed to grind the journals it'll be the time to check that when the flywheel is remounted. cheers.
@@Thesheddweller ok, i didn't think about the weight of the sludge, maybe the new tube is lighter on purpose to compensate for some of the weight of the sludge... It is probably also pretty hard to balance this crankshaft because even without any sludge you need to consider the relatively large volume inside the crankshaft which is probably empty while balancing but when filled with oil in the running engine, the oil adds a noticeable amount of weight...
Great job, I've had some fun and games getting those things out on my old Bonnie, I did have to re-use my sludge trap, as there were no replacements at the time, but like you, I used the tap method to extract, cheers, Dave
eyup Paul Great job👍👍👍👍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍 I feel your pain, where there's a will there's a way, ive been there with my bsa shooting star some years back, mine did succomb to the trusty impact wrench, however i went through all that for peace of mind, to find out really it did'nt need doing, it was suprisingly nearly as clean as a whistle. Can't believe how much solid sludge was in yours, someone wasn't doing routine maintenance all those years ago, i must have got my bike via the only chap in uk who changed his oil every week🤣🤣🤣🤣😉😉👍👍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍 Great job as usual Paul BFN Kev
You can get plastic custard jugs from Tesco for approximately a couple of quid...yes Ive been there with the kitchen appliance (I don't have a dishwasher so havent done the classic one and wouldnt, should my lady read this...or we ever get a dishwasher) Well done getting that sorted, engine engineers come up with some truly evil ways of attaching things but the older the engine gets the better thought out they seem to be...Triumph appear to be one of those that considered the probability that later in life you would need to replace something instead of buying a whole new one....Go Triumph
Hi, if you’re on about the tube bore, i can only tell you what I used in the video. All I can say is use what ever fits!.. some of the tube bores are different sizes I just happened to have a 10mm tap to hand, and it worked. Hope that helped
@@Thesheddweller No sir not the tap that pulled out the tube, I was asking about the tap you used to clean the hole threads for the plug after the tube was already out...thats what I was on about.
@@pauliebots sorry, I misread your comment. Being a triumph nothing is that simple, the bung thread up to 1967 is 11/16" x 20tpi cycle thread. But there are variations some have 3/4" x 20tpi cycle thread, and some are 9/16" x 20tpi cycle thread, depending whether timing side or drive side. I'm sorry I can't be more specific than that I'm afraid. hope this helps. cheers
Excellent job. Have you seen Ade at AG Engineering? This sort of thing is his stock in trade. Likewise my brother at Retromeccanica. Your film was brilliant.
@@Thesheddweller Retromeccanica has just done an excellent modification to use a Yamaha clutch in a BSA Bantam. It is a mod done on trials bikes for years, not without compromises. Retromeccanica has done a fully engineered modification which removes many of the shortcomings of previous iterations. Well worth a look.
Good job on a difficult task. Half the battle was getting it out and the other half was doing no damage. You accomplished both. Thanks for the video.
Hi Thanks, yes and one miss-hit I gave my hand a 'jolly good biffing' nothing broken. cheers
I've done this job a few times years ago. You basically did everything I used to do except find away to drill out the divit.
I used to clamp the tap in a vice & tap the crankshaft away from it releasing the sludge tube.
You did good.
Hi Todd, thanks, cheers
Ah, the perennial sludge trap! My brother Carl Wilson sent me here. Great work.
Best wishes, Dean.
Well that brought back memories, i used to do that at a well known Triumph spares place before they closed up and i retired 20+ years ago. Thank heavens we now have detergent oil and paper oil filters!
Hi, after that episode,..I agree with you on the oil and filters. cheers
You just educated me! Never seen or heard of a sludge tube before. 😊😊😊😊
Aye-up, how you doing, back getting better I hope. cheers
Nice to see a new video from you, and a bonus that it’s motorcycle related. Thank you. Les
Hi, I get lots of stuff for cars and bikes but not everybody wants the world to know what's been repaired or modified on their pride and joy. otherwise I would have a lot more to show. cheers
Fascinating to watch!! "Thank You"👍
you're welcome. cheers.
Good one, Paul.
A bit of a struggle but you won :)
Excellent work. 😃😃
Excellent work and very good videography!
Well done Paul!
hi, thanks.
I am wondering if the crankshaft is still balanced after inserting the new sludge tube, because you mentioned the old one had thicker walls than the new tube, so the new one will be lighter than the old one which will disturb the balance of the crankshaft...
I know this particular crankshaft is not meant to be used in a running engine, but still, if you use such a replacement tube for a runninfg engine this will cause problems...
Hi, very true but, I would imagine that the difference would have been negligible compared to the amount of sludge I dug out of it, the sludge alone must have been twice the weight of a new tube. I wonder how accurate crank balancing was when the crank was first built. I will probably never know. Still, when the main flywheel is removed to grind the journals it'll be the time to check that when the flywheel is remounted. cheers.
@@Thesheddweller ok, i didn't think about the weight of the sludge, maybe the new tube is lighter on purpose to compensate for some of the weight of the sludge...
It is probably also pretty hard to balance this crankshaft because even without any sludge you need to consider the relatively large volume inside the crankshaft which is probably empty while balancing but when filled with oil in the running engine, the oil adds a noticeable amount of weight...
Great job, I've had some fun and games getting those things out on my old Bonnie, I did have to re-use my sludge trap, as there were no replacements at the time, but like you, I used the tap method to extract, cheers, Dave
hi, still nothing new in engineering. cheers
eyup Paul Great job👍👍👍👍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍
I feel your pain, where there's a will there's a way,
ive been there with my bsa shooting star some years back, mine did succomb to the trusty impact wrench, however i went through all that for peace of mind, to find out really it did'nt need doing, it was suprisingly nearly as clean as a whistle.
Can't believe how much solid sludge was in yours, someone wasn't doing routine maintenance all those years ago, i must have got my bike via the only chap in uk who changed his oil every week🤣🤣🤣🤣😉😉👍👍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍🏍
Great job as usual Paul
BFN
Kev
Hi Kev, it was a bit of a surprise when I opened it but, it has to be done. cheers.
You can get plastic custard jugs from Tesco for approximately a couple of quid...yes Ive been there with the kitchen appliance (I don't have a dishwasher so havent done the classic one and wouldnt, should my lady read this...or we ever get a dishwasher)
Well done getting that sorted, engine engineers come up with some truly evil ways of attaching things but the older the engine gets the better thought out they seem to be...Triumph appear to be one of those that considered the probability that later in life you would need to replace something instead of buying a whole new one....Go Triumph
Can you say what size the bore tap was ?
Hi, if you’re on about the tube bore, i can only tell you what I used in the video. All I can say is use what ever fits!.. some of the tube bores are different sizes I just happened to have a 10mm tap to hand, and it worked. Hope that helped
@@Thesheddweller No sir not the tap that pulled out the tube, I was asking about the tap you used to clean the hole threads for the plug after the tube was already out...thats what I was on about.
@@pauliebots sorry, I misread your comment.
Being a triumph nothing is that simple, the bung thread up to 1967 is 11/16" x 20tpi cycle thread.
But there are variations some have 3/4" x 20tpi cycle thread, and some are 9/16" x 20tpi cycle thread, depending whether timing side or drive side. I'm sorry I can't be more specific than that I'm afraid. hope this helps. cheers
@@Thesheddweller that's perfect! Thanks for the info and your time.
Excellent job. Have you seen Ade at AG Engineering? This sort of thing is his stock in trade. Likewise my brother at Retromeccanica. Your film was brilliant.
Hi, yes I have seen AG Engineering but not Retromeccanica. cheers
@@Thesheddweller Retromeccanica has just done an excellent modification to use a Yamaha clutch in a BSA Bantam. It is a mod done on trials bikes for years, not without compromises. Retromeccanica has done a fully engineered modification which removes many of the shortcomings of previous iterations. Well worth a look.
@@carlwilson1772 well after a recommendation like that it has to be visited... cheers
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thank you. cheers