really wish this was advertised more. didn’t discover it until the order period was closed. Hopefully i am get my hands on one through ebay or maybe another retailer
So... my observation is that true scale vehicles almost never work with true scale figures. The first problem is articulation. Few figures, even ones with 30 POA, have the range to 100% do what real bodies do in a car, especially hips deeper than 90. The second problem is with the vehicles. If you make certain things to scale, unless you make the interior more hollow than the real thing or have inaccurate seats, the interiors aren't flexible enough. The floors are also too high because of material thickness. McFarlane movie Batmobiles manage to be 1/12 and fit 1/10 figures but they have to be super hollow and remove passenger seats and/or surrounding storage. The Ghostbusters 1/18 car and o-ring figures have the same problem. It's very difficult to pair same scale figures and vehicles, particularly unless you make one or both deliberately inaccurate in some ways. Generally, the ideal is vehicles that are about 10% oversized to figures for a natural fit. Interestingly, I believe the Plasma Ectomobile 1/12 Haslab is actually a 1/10 car, to fit figures better... and apparently Hasbro wanted the somewhat oversized Marvel Legends to fit. That's also a problem, because most American superhero toylines are oversized for their scale. Granted, the really funny thing with DC is that the official statistics for the characters are huge (or really short for some women) and nobody draws them realistically, especially relative to Marvel characters, who tend to be a bit short. Basically, the whole Justice League should be around Colossus or Thor's size, even though nobody actually draws them that way in team-ups. So that actually makes DC figures from McFarlane less overscaled, technically, with 1/10 than Marvel is with 1/12. In general, the shortest McFarlane figures are basically ALREADY in scale with the average Marvel Legends, like Page Punchers Superman and Knightfall Batman. Batman is canonically built closer to Thor than Cap even though he's drawn closer to Cap. Oh. And the Adam West Batman and Reeve Superman are actually pretty undersized in Multiverse because West was actually the tallest Batman actor and should tower over even most comics characters and Reeve was taller than that. So the McFarlane West and Reeve are honestly pretty much Legends scale or maybe technically too small. Assuming the actors didn't lie about their heights, which is common.
@ Maybe on a Facebook livestream. They were very careful not to even mention NECA on the actual Kickstarter page, much less show any. As far as I'm aware, the DeLorean itself is actually 1/10 and the problem is that Doc's hips don't even bend 90 degrees. And sitting in a driver's seat believably requires bending more than 90. That feels like a NECA problem to me. I'm not sure how you actually account for that with the car without modifying the interior in a way that would piss off all the car enthusiasts who hate action figures to begin with and would never put a figure with the car. You'd probably have to tilt the whole interior at an angle and/or make the floor unrealistically thin.
I just got mine as well. For the price, its a really good model. A few missed details, particularly the black wire around the car missing the multi color wires, but overall its a wonderful model. I think the figures may run a little big and the car itself is closer to true 1:10 scale. Plus, NECAs articulation doesnt make for great seated poses. Consudering how well this did, I hope we see a version for part 2. They already did most of the work and tooling. Overall, for the 299 plus shipping that I paid a year and a half ago, its a pretty good deal for what you get compared to similar deloreans.
I'm pretty sure the car is scaled correctly to 7" scale. The figures are the correct height when standing next to the car. TOMY just focused on accuracy rather than seatability in regards to the seats. The 7" scale NECA figures are just not really engineered well for sitting, so TOMY would have needed to find a way to sit the seats even lower to the floor to accommodate for the NECA figures.
Absolutely beautiful vehicle! But we need either TOMY to make figures or a 6 inch BTTF figures. It’s like the McFarlane tumbler, which fits better the Mattel Dark Knight figures than the 7 inch McFarlane. Speaking of Batman, does the Silver age grey tone matches the Knight fall black variant version? 😊
To be fair, the NECA figures were never designed to have the articulation to sit inside a vehicle. Also, NECA are simply "7-inch figures", not "7-inch scale". It would be funny to see what the BTTF animated figures would look like inside this model😀
Thanks for this. Great insight. It’s nice to see the Einstein comparison. NECAS is way better IMO. Is there a scale issue with the figures standing next to the vehicle? They seem slightly too big?
Just got mine, debating on opening it. I've got the figures but since then I have the 1/15 diamond select back to the Future car and got custom 118 figures that fit in there perfect. The torso crunch on neca isn't as good or doc would fit. The human body is squishy and the car seats are spongy , replicating that is hard for figures and vehicles. The vehicles need to be slightly oversized or have sunken seats. You could probably take a Dremel And hollow out the seat making a butt depression for doc.
Then you either didn’t actually back it, or you have notifications turned off from Kickstarter. I got consistent updates from Kickstarter on the project.
@@davidz2016 i’m sure they will just ship it to you. You didn’t really need to take any action as long as your address is correct in kickstarter.They claimed they were going to email people their tracking numbers yet I got nothing and then it just showed up the other day.
Glad to see you liked it. The smoke effect is something that I could have lived without but I have to admit it does look great. If I’m not mistaken the tail lights are not illuminated, which is a bit of a bummer. I think the scale is probably accurate, but as you mentioned the actual Delorean is tiny and the figures aren’t engineered to sit inside. I might try to find a cheap Bttf II Doc and fit it with a cloth robe to help it fit inside.
You can get liquid fog at party supply places too. I usually got mine to fill smoke machines from Halloween stores when in season. It's also called liquid smoke. They all do the same thing and don't think you can go wrong with any.
How much was this $200 if a few years ago. I could imagine neca or hasbro charging double for that. Dry ice would work for the fog would work. You have to be very careful with that stuff, for safety. This looks very cool. Never heard this would be coming out. I have the ghost busters car and figures haslab preordered.
really wish this was advertised more. didn’t discover it until the order period was closed. Hopefully i am get my hands on one through ebay or maybe another retailer
Wow. How much did this awesome car cost.
So... my observation is that true scale vehicles almost never work with true scale figures.
The first problem is articulation. Few figures, even ones with 30 POA, have the range to 100% do what real bodies do in a car, especially hips deeper than 90.
The second problem is with the vehicles. If you make certain things to scale, unless you make the interior more hollow than the real thing or have inaccurate seats, the interiors aren't flexible enough. The floors are also too high because of material thickness.
McFarlane movie Batmobiles manage to be 1/12 and fit 1/10 figures but they have to be super hollow and remove passenger seats and/or surrounding storage.
The Ghostbusters 1/18 car and o-ring figures have the same problem. It's very difficult to pair same scale figures and vehicles, particularly unless you make one or both deliberately inaccurate in some ways.
Generally, the ideal is vehicles that are about 10% oversized to figures for a natural fit.
Interestingly, I believe the Plasma Ectomobile 1/12 Haslab is actually a 1/10 car, to fit figures better... and apparently Hasbro wanted the somewhat oversized Marvel Legends to fit.
That's also a problem, because most American superhero toylines are oversized for their scale.
Granted, the really funny thing with DC is that the official statistics for the characters are huge (or really short for some women) and nobody draws them realistically, especially relative to Marvel characters, who tend to be a bit short. Basically, the whole Justice League should be around Colossus or Thor's size, even though nobody actually draws them that way in team-ups. So that actually makes DC figures from McFarlane less overscaled, technically, with 1/10 than Marvel is with 1/12.
In general, the shortest McFarlane figures are basically ALREADY in scale with the average Marvel Legends, like Page Punchers Superman and Knightfall Batman. Batman is canonically built closer to Thor than Cap even though he's drawn closer to Cap.
Oh. And the Adam West Batman and Reeve Superman are actually pretty undersized in Multiverse because West was actually the tallest Batman actor and should tower over even most comics characters and Reeve was taller than that. So the McFarlane West and Reeve are honestly pretty much Legends scale or maybe technically too small. Assuming the actors didn't lie about their heights, which is common.
Marty fits no problem but they used Doc as a example with the Kickstarter. Which is the BS
@ Maybe on a Facebook livestream. They were very careful not to even mention NECA on the actual Kickstarter page, much less show any.
As far as I'm aware, the DeLorean itself is actually 1/10 and the problem is that Doc's hips don't even bend 90 degrees. And sitting in a driver's seat believably requires bending more than 90. That feels like a NECA problem to me. I'm not sure how you actually account for that with the car without modifying the interior in a way that would piss off all the car enthusiasts who hate action figures to begin with and would never put a figure with the car. You'd probably have to tilt the whole interior at an angle and/or make the floor unrealistically thin.
Wow.
I just got mine as well. For the price, its a really good model. A few missed details, particularly the black wire around the car missing the multi color wires, but overall its a wonderful model.
I think the figures may run a little big and the car itself is closer to true 1:10 scale. Plus, NECAs articulation doesnt make for great seated poses.
Consudering how well this did, I hope we see a version for part 2. They already did most of the work and tooling.
Overall, for the 299 plus shipping that I paid a year and a half ago, its a pretty good deal for what you get compared to similar deloreans.
Lets hope Mezco make 1:12 Doc and Marty in soft goods...that would be just awesome with this car.
I'm pretty sure the car is scaled correctly to 7" scale. The figures are the correct height when standing next to the car. TOMY just focused on accuracy rather than seatability in regards to the seats. The 7" scale NECA figures are just not really engineered well for sitting, so TOMY would have needed to find a way to sit the seats even lower to the floor to accommodate for the NECA figures.
Absolutely beautiful vehicle! But we need either TOMY to make figures or a 6 inch BTTF figures. It’s like the McFarlane tumbler, which fits better the Mattel Dark Knight figures than the 7 inch McFarlane.
Speaking of Batman, does the Silver age grey tone matches the Knight fall black variant version? 😊
To be fair, the NECA figures were never designed to have the articulation to sit inside a vehicle.
Also, NECA are simply "7-inch figures", not "7-inch scale". It would be funny to see what the BTTF animated figures would look like inside this model😀
The animated figures are 5 inch scale
Too small and too Toony for this
Keep in mind the limitations are NECA articulation and quality issues and not the car.
It doesnt help the Neca figures have terrible hip and torso articulation. Might be better off popping the body in half for closed door shots.
Thanks for this. Great insight. It’s nice to see the Einstein comparison. NECAS is way better IMO.
Is there a scale issue with the figures standing next to the vehicle? They seem slightly too big?
If you can please take a image of NECA Einstein sitting in seat?!
Amazing vehicle and review dhunter
Just got mine, debating on opening it.
I've got the figures but since then I have the 1/15 diamond select back to the Future car and got custom 118 figures that fit in there perfect.
The torso crunch on neca isn't as good or doc would fit.
The human body is squishy and the car seats are spongy , replicating that is hard for figures and vehicles.
The vehicles need to be slightly oversized or have sunken seats.
You could probably take a Dremel And hollow out the seat making a butt depression for doc.
How the heck . I backed this and never got any updates.
Then you either didn’t actually back it, or you have notifications turned off from Kickstarter. I got consistent updates from Kickstarter on the project.
@Kal-el23 it could be the Kickstart is off . I got 2 email with early access, and then nothing. It looks like I may have turned it off.
@@davidz2016 i’m sure they will just ship it to you. You didn’t really need to take any action as long as your address is correct in kickstarter.They claimed they were going to email people their tracking numbers yet I got nothing and then it just showed up the other day.
Glad to see you liked it. The smoke effect is something that I could have lived without but I have to admit it does look great. If I’m not mistaken the tail lights are not illuminated, which is a bit of a bummer.
I think the scale is probably accurate, but as you mentioned the actual Delorean is tiny and the figures aren’t engineered to sit inside. I might try to find a cheap Bttf II Doc and fit it with a cloth robe to help it fit inside.
Tail lights have lights on feature
@ Thanks! I’ve seen it now on another video. I thought that they didn’t because of how they look.
I wish I knew about this. Would have lived to own it .
Same, this is the first I'm hearing of it!!!
Great
Thats weird...it asked me to be a subscriber....when i already was longgg ago. Seems youtube is eliminating subscibers
They hating on me
TOe-mee
Really…?
Can you recommend a fog solution? I don’t want to put the wrong kind in lol
Go to Amazon and type fog solution, get the first 1-3 things that come up.
You can get liquid fog at party supply places too. I usually got mine to fill smoke machines from Halloween stores when in season. It's also called liquid smoke. They all do the same thing and don't think you can go wrong with any.
How much was this $200 if a few years ago. I could imagine neca or hasbro charging double for that.
Dry ice would work for the fog would work. You have to be very careful with that stuff, for safety.
This looks very cool. Never heard this would be coming out. I have the ghost busters car and figures haslab preordered.
Go to a hobby shop