One minute in and Greg just hit the nail right on the head for me. As a Social Psychologist, I have been involved in the study and application of Critical Theory and this is exactly how I've been feeling: that my field of study is vastly different at best, and even hostile at worst, to my faith. I have been struggling to find my footing between my faith and my career, and at one point considered just leaving my academic career for good.
@@humz403 Most people are familiar with Psychology as a post-positivist paradigm. Even more people are only familiar with Clinical Psychology. Whereas I began my research endeavors within the epistemological umbrella of social constructionism, exploring language and meaning-making. Yes, that's a thing in Psychology. I started with theoretical and methodological applications of discourse analysis. Naturally, this led further into explorations on critical theory. Critical theory, along with discourse analysis, narrative psychology, and qualitative psychology in general, fall within the umbrella of a social constructionist worldview. Obviously a worldview that champions multiple truths would be difficult to reconcile with the exclusivity of God's truth. For a time I had to wrestle with doubts myself. It's only by the grace of God that He has made Himself and His truth so clear to me.
@@ezyx3977 I guess I'm more interested in how you're applying this theories in your work. We're you trying to incorporate them on your clients? My wife is a Psychologist, and while some of this critical theory was taught in school, she hasn't had to touch any of it since.
@@matth8229 No, I don't apply critical theory to counselling since I'm not a clinical psychologist. In my profession, we have produced research grounded on critical theory and we have incorporated its concepts in various areas of our course curriculum. So yes, I am part of the workforce that teach critical theory.
I work for a Government building in Canada. We are now mandated to do online classes on Critical Theory except they call it Foundations of Cultural Differences. Right now anti black racism is the focus but its heavily mixed with CRT. The tenants in my workplace’s document on the Pilar of anti black racism (45 pages) is full of watered down rhetoric that to you see on BLM mission statement (that was taken down). It’s about dismantling every “norm” , even the idea that heterosexuality is the norm because it’s offensive/discriminatory to the the LGBTQ community. Don’t get me wrong, it also highlights things we need to look at. I was doing the mandatory online “class” but couldn’t pass the one slide that asked me what I had most problem with and because of my Christian world view, I couldn’t honestly answer because one of the answers they wanted me to choose. I was not allowed to skip it. In order for me to proceed, I would have to give an answer that was a lie and not reflective of my beliefs. I told my boss this made me feel uncomfortable and I won’t lie just in order to finish this. I told him I am 💯 on board with examining what’s going on in our organization...if hiring processes need to be different etc. I’m 💯 on board with listening to my black coworkers and learning about what they have been experiencing and how we can make things better. I told my boss I want to comply with all this but I draw the line when my worldview and thoughts are now being dismissed and I’m being forced to lie and affirm this other world view. This is very serious to me and I’m a bit nervous of what is ahead . I know full well What’s ahead. So I am preparing to give a loving, informed answer as to why I am against all oppression and at the same time, also against CRT being the worldview which we measure everything by. In my organization I am seeing Christian voices trying to be silenced and any voices against crt being shamed. I am seeing censorship under the guise of Social Justice. I see the halt of free speech and open dialogue because it’s not in line with the narrative. This really concerns me. We are basically told that the reason we think like this is because of our white privilege. In other words, White people do not have insight and other races have this knowledge or ethnic gnosticism that Whites do not have. There is no individuality...just group think. Btw, my boss was ok with me not continuing. He left it up to me. He is very supportive. I’m am preparing for higher management to confront me one day. I’m not alone in this. I told my boss that one day I’ll probably need to have this discussion with the higher ups because there are others that have the same view as me. I’ve lost sleep over this. It’s very important for me to acknowledge oppression and injustices but only from God’s perspective. I’m not down with dismantling what is in God’s word. I’m setting up a meeting with my pastor. He’s part Jamaican and he’s familiar with racism. He also rejects CRT. I need my eyes to be open more and I’m hoping for more insight. I have long been interested in Christian apologetics and Identity Politics/Critical Theory. And here I am now. Pray for me please. I have a feeling I’m going to be a voice at work. I can’t stop thinking about it. I am confident that God will prepare me for this and give me the words and in the meantime, I’m using resources such as this to get all my details in line. Thanks 🙏
I appreciate your courage! I think many people remain silent under such campaigns and it encourages and emboldens them when people like you stand up. I had a similar situation over 20 years ago when I worked at Hallmark Cards Inc. At the end of a new, mandatory, diversity training program I found that I could not sign the statement of agreement in good conscience. So i scratched out theirs and wrote in my own (compassionate but) alternative statement and signed that. I got called down to HR for that, but the representative couldn't find fault with my reasoning, and they ultimately allowed my alternative position to stand, because it aligned with the company's stated goals. I think this is all simply part of the process of respectfully pushing back against overreach and ideological campaigning on the part of authorities in free societies. I hope you have had a good resolution in your situation!
This is excellent!!! The problem arises when one has shown they love people and they hate racism, but the observers believe their ideology over their viewable observations! Ideology / false doctrine trumps experience. This is why our primary defense isn’t our experience it is the Scriptures. God has spoken on this issue of the oppressed and oppressors. What He says however is not what the flesh wants to hear! Pick up your cross and follow Him!
Love hearing this discussed! Critical Legal Theory has transformed western cultures since the last 1980s. The movement and its effects are chronicled in the book, "Fifteen Minutes into Eternity-The War Between the Human Spirit and the Holy Spirit."
If oppression is often expressed in standards and the imposition of those standards upon sectors of a society, or upon a society entirely, how is the standard "You shall not oppress" itself not a form of oppression? I mean, if simply being a standard to which people ought to conform constitutes being oppressive, then one cannot urge others to cease their oppression without being oppressive oneself. This reminds me of the Buddhist who desires to eschew all desire, or the person who says there is no absolute truth.
it's been 2000 years we've been told of Him, and what the many churches believe Him to be has already shaped most of western history and beyond, sometimes for the best (like, accidentally, with art and music, made by artists often more penniless than faithful) but mostly for the worse (predation over Nature taken as a heirloom from Him and to our disposal, incessant crusades in His name, and the destruction of all cultures standing in His way). So, whether He got misunderstood, manipulated, failed to exist or, worse, didn't care, I don't think we can reasonably expect any positive change from Him or any-One divinely related. Can't say we didn't try though. Let's believe in ourselves (collectively) for a change, shall we ?
إِذَا السَّمَاءُ انفَطَرَتْ When the sky breaks apart 2 وَإِذَا الْكَوَاكِبُ انتَثَرَتْ And when the stars fall, scattering, 3 وَإِذَا الْبِحَارُ فُجِّرَتْ And when the seas are erupted 4 وَإِذَا الْقُبُورُ بُعْثِرَتْ And when the [contents of] graves are scattered, 5 عَلِمَتْ نَفْسٌ مَّا قَدَّمَتْ وَأَخَّرَتْ A soul will [then] know what it has put forth and kept back. 6 يَا أَيُّهَا الْإِنسَانُ مَا غَرَّكَ بِرَبِّكَ الْكَرِيمِ O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous, 7 الَّذِي خَلَقَكَ فَسَوَّاكَ فَعَدَلَكَ Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you? 8 فِي أَيِّ صُورَةٍ مَّا شَاءَ رَكَّبَكَ In whatever form He willed has He assembled you. 9 كَلَّا بَلْ تُكَذِّبُونَ بِالدِّينِ No! But you deny the Recompense. 10 وَإِنَّ عَلَيْكُمْ لَحَافِظِينَ And indeed, [appointed] over you are keepers, 11 كِرَامًا كَاتِبِينَ Noble and recording; 12 يَعْلَمُونَ مَا تَفْعَلُونَ They know whatever you do. 13 إِنَّ الْأَبْرَارَ لَفِي نَعِيمٍ Indeed, the righteous will be in pleasure, 14 وَإِنَّ الْفُجَّارَ لَفِي جَحِيمٍ And indeed, the wicked will be in Hellfire. 15 يَصْلَوْنَهَا يَوْمَ الدِّينِ They will [enter to] burn therein on the Day of Recompense, 16 وَمَا هُمْ عَنْهَا بِغَائِبِينَ And never therefrom will they be absent. 17 وَمَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا يَوْمُ الدِّينِ And what can make you know what is the Day of Recompense? 18 ثُمَّ مَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا يَوْمُ الدِّينِ Then, what can make you know what is the Day of Recompense? 19 يَوْمَ لَا تَمْلِكُ نَفْسٌ لِّنَفْسٍ شَيْئًا ۖ وَالْأَمْرُ يَوْمَئِذٍ لِّلَّهِ It is the Day when a soul will not possess for another soul [power to do] a thing; and the command, that Day, is [entirely] with Allah.
Maybe a lack of understanding in the two natures of God distorts thinking. A belief that God is patient kind and loving is easy to accept. However, a God of wrath, anger, hatred and vengeance; Well, I rarely hear anything discussed about that.
I actually disagree with the guests. These people won’t listen to you because they say your speech is equal to physical violence and they must oppress you. They oppress while at the same time claim to be the oppressed. How to rationalize with irrational people?
Biblical justifications for slavery Luke 12:47-48 The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows. Exodus 21:20-21 Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property Colossians 3:22 Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord. Ephesians 6:5-9 Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. Leviticus 25:44-46 Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
LOL! You've never read the Bible. You neither know nor care anything about it. Now, which statement in this video did you disagree with, and upon what basis? Give the time stamp.
Why there was not a 'thou shall not own another person' commandment (basically, have near or complete control over them with the right to mete out punishment for disobedience) is hard to understand. Seems God does not view that kind of relationship, on its own, 'oppressive' (and there was some variety in the exact nature of master-slave relationships). Otherwise, and even within that arrangement, He does, from what I see in Scripture, seem to view treating others as less than oneself as wrong (again, outside of the arrangement itself), even under Mosaic Law and certainly under the New Covenant.
One minute in and Greg just hit the nail right on the head for me. As a Social Psychologist, I have been involved in the study and application of Critical Theory and this is exactly how I've been feeling: that my field of study is vastly different at best, and even hostile at worst, to my faith. I have been struggling to find my footing between my faith and my career, and at one point considered just leaving my academic career for good.
What type of Psychologly do you do where you're forced to apply critical theory?
What about similar the way Jordan Peterson works?
@@humz403 Most people are familiar with Psychology as a post-positivist paradigm. Even more people are only familiar with Clinical Psychology. Whereas I began my research endeavors within the epistemological umbrella of social constructionism, exploring language and meaning-making. Yes, that's a thing in Psychology. I started with theoretical and methodological applications of discourse analysis. Naturally, this led further into explorations on critical theory. Critical theory, along with discourse analysis, narrative psychology, and qualitative psychology in general, fall within the umbrella of a social constructionist worldview. Obviously a worldview that champions multiple truths would be difficult to reconcile with the exclusivity of God's truth. For a time I had to wrestle with doubts myself. It's only by the grace of God that He has made Himself and His truth so clear to me.
@@ezyx3977 I guess I'm more interested in how you're applying this theories in your work. We're you trying to incorporate them on your clients?
My wife is a Psychologist, and while some of this critical theory was taught in school, she hasn't had to touch any of it since.
@@matth8229 No, I don't apply critical theory to counselling since I'm not a clinical psychologist. In my profession, we have produced research grounded on critical theory and we have incorporated its concepts in various areas of our course curriculum. So yes, I am part of the workforce that teach critical theory.
Thank you for your work! There must always be an authority. God is the only righteous authority.
I work for a Government building in Canada.
We are now mandated to do online classes on Critical Theory except they call it Foundations of Cultural Differences. Right now anti black racism is the focus but its heavily mixed with CRT.
The tenants in my workplace’s document on the Pilar of anti black racism (45 pages) is full of watered down rhetoric that to you see on BLM mission statement (that was taken down). It’s about dismantling every “norm” , even the idea that heterosexuality is the norm because it’s offensive/discriminatory to the the LGBTQ community. Don’t get me wrong, it also highlights things we need to look at.
I was doing the mandatory online “class” but couldn’t pass the one slide that asked me what I had most problem with and because of my Christian world view, I couldn’t honestly answer because one of the answers they wanted me to choose.
I was not allowed to skip it. In order for me to proceed, I would have to give an answer that was a lie and not reflective of my beliefs.
I told my boss this made me feel uncomfortable and I won’t lie just in order to finish this. I told him I am 💯 on board with examining what’s going on in our organization...if hiring processes need to be different etc. I’m 💯 on board with listening to my black coworkers and learning about what they have been experiencing and how we can make things better. I told my boss I want to comply with all this but I draw the line when my worldview and thoughts are now being dismissed and I’m being forced to lie and affirm this other world view.
This is very serious to me and I’m a bit nervous of what is ahead . I know full well What’s ahead. So I am preparing to give a loving, informed answer as to why I am against all oppression and at the same time, also against CRT being the worldview which we measure everything by.
In my organization I am seeing Christian voices trying to be silenced and any voices against crt being shamed. I am seeing censorship under the guise of Social Justice. I see the halt of free speech and open dialogue because it’s not in line with the narrative. This really concerns me. We are basically told that the reason we think like this is because of our white privilege. In other words, White people do not have insight and other races have this knowledge or ethnic gnosticism that Whites do not have. There is no individuality...just group think.
Btw, my boss was ok with me not continuing. He left it up to me. He is very supportive. I’m am preparing for higher management to confront me one day.
I’m not alone in this. I told my boss that one day I’ll probably need to have this discussion with the higher ups because there are others that have the same view as me.
I’ve lost sleep over this. It’s very important for me to acknowledge oppression and injustices but only from God’s perspective. I’m not down with dismantling what is in God’s word.
I’m setting up a meeting with my pastor. He’s part Jamaican and he’s familiar with racism. He also rejects CRT. I need my eyes to be open more and I’m hoping for more insight.
I have long been interested in Christian apologetics and Identity Politics/Critical Theory. And here I am now.
Pray for me please. I have a feeling I’m going to be a voice at work. I can’t stop thinking about it. I am confident that God will prepare me for this and give me the words and in the meantime, I’m using resources such as this to get all my details in line.
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for your comment! Praying for you!
I appreciate your courage! I think many people remain silent under such campaigns and it encourages and emboldens them when people like you stand up. I had a similar situation over 20 years ago when I worked at Hallmark Cards Inc. At the end of a new, mandatory, diversity training program I found that I could not sign the statement of agreement in good conscience. So i scratched out theirs and wrote in my own (compassionate but) alternative statement and signed that. I got called down to HR for that, but the representative couldn't find fault with my reasoning, and they ultimately allowed my alternative position to stand, because it aligned with the company's stated goals. I think this is all simply part of the process of respectfully pushing back against overreach and ideological campaigning on the part of authorities in free societies.
I hope you have had a good resolution in your situation!
Violence is the behavior that reveals the decadence of a group's thinking.
God is the source of goodness.
When God isn't with someone, degeneracy of mind and body follows.
Yea...a la cults throughout evangelical mind toxin
This is excellent!!!
The problem arises when one has shown they love people and they hate racism, but the observers believe their ideology over their viewable observations! Ideology / false doctrine trumps experience.
This is why our primary defense isn’t our experience it is the Scriptures. God has spoken on this issue of the oppressed and oppressors. What He says however is not what the flesh wants to hear! Pick up your cross and follow Him!
Love hearing this discussed! Critical Legal Theory has transformed western cultures since the last 1980s. The movement and its effects are chronicled in the book, "Fifteen Minutes into Eternity-The War Between the Human Spirit and the Holy Spirit."
Hello how are you doing Lynn. I trust you are safe and in good health. Thank you... God bless you.
If oppression is often expressed in standards and the imposition of those standards upon sectors of a society, or upon a society entirely, how is the standard "You shall not oppress" itself not a form of oppression? I mean, if simply being a standard to which people ought to conform constitutes being oppressive, then one cannot urge others to cease their oppression without being oppressive oneself. This reminds me of the Buddhist who desires to eschew all desire, or the person who says there is no absolute truth.
it's been 2000 years we've been told of Him, and what the many churches believe Him to be has already shaped most of western history and beyond, sometimes for the best (like, accidentally, with art and music, made by artists often more penniless than faithful) but mostly for the worse (predation over Nature taken as a heirloom from Him and to our disposal, incessant crusades in His name, and the destruction of all cultures standing in His way). So, whether He got misunderstood, manipulated, failed to exist or, worse, didn't care, I don't think we can reasonably expect any positive change from Him or any-One divinely related. Can't say we didn't try though. Let's believe in ourselves (collectively) for a change, shall we ?
إِذَا السَّمَاءُ انفَطَرَتْ
When the sky breaks apart
2
وَإِذَا الْكَوَاكِبُ انتَثَرَتْ
And when the stars fall, scattering,
3
وَإِذَا الْبِحَارُ فُجِّرَتْ
And when the seas are erupted
4
وَإِذَا الْقُبُورُ بُعْثِرَتْ
And when the [contents of] graves are scattered,
5
عَلِمَتْ نَفْسٌ مَّا قَدَّمَتْ وَأَخَّرَتْ
A soul will [then] know what it has put forth and kept back.
6
يَا أَيُّهَا الْإِنسَانُ مَا غَرَّكَ بِرَبِّكَ الْكَرِيمِ
O mankind, what has deceived you concerning your Lord, the Generous,
7
الَّذِي خَلَقَكَ فَسَوَّاكَ فَعَدَلَكَ
Who created you, proportioned you, and balanced you?
8
فِي أَيِّ صُورَةٍ مَّا شَاءَ رَكَّبَكَ
In whatever form He willed has He assembled you.
9
كَلَّا بَلْ تُكَذِّبُونَ بِالدِّينِ
No! But you deny the Recompense.
10
وَإِنَّ عَلَيْكُمْ لَحَافِظِينَ
And indeed, [appointed] over you are keepers,
11
كِرَامًا كَاتِبِينَ
Noble and recording;
12
يَعْلَمُونَ مَا تَفْعَلُونَ
They know whatever you do.
13
إِنَّ الْأَبْرَارَ لَفِي نَعِيمٍ
Indeed, the righteous will be in pleasure,
14
وَإِنَّ الْفُجَّارَ لَفِي جَحِيمٍ
And indeed, the wicked will be in Hellfire.
15
يَصْلَوْنَهَا يَوْمَ الدِّينِ
They will [enter to] burn therein on the Day of Recompense,
16
وَمَا هُمْ عَنْهَا بِغَائِبِينَ
And never therefrom will they be absent.
17
وَمَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا يَوْمُ الدِّينِ
And what can make you know what is the Day of Recompense?
18
ثُمَّ مَا أَدْرَاكَ مَا يَوْمُ الدِّينِ
Then, what can make you know what is the Day of Recompense?
19
يَوْمَ لَا تَمْلِكُ نَفْسٌ لِّنَفْسٍ شَيْئًا ۖ وَالْأَمْرُ يَوْمَئِذٍ لِّلَّهِ
It is the Day when a soul will not possess for another soul [power to do] a thing; and the command, that Day, is [entirely] with Allah.
Least your honest...partially..
Maybe a lack of understanding in the two natures of God distorts thinking. A belief that God is patient kind and loving is easy to accept.
However, a God of wrath, anger, hatred and vengeance; Well, I rarely hear anything discussed about that.
I actually disagree with the guests. These people won’t listen to you because they say your speech is equal to physical violence and they must oppress you. They oppress while at the same time claim to be the oppressed. How to rationalize with irrational people?
First
Biblical justifications for slavery
Luke 12:47-48
The servant who knows the master’s will and does not get ready or does not do what the master wants will be beaten with many blows.
Exodus 21:20-21
Anyone who beats their male or female slave with a rod must be punished if the slave dies as a direct result, but they are not to be punished if the slave recovers after a day or two, since the slave is their property
Colossians 3:22
Slaves, obey your earthly masters in everything; and do it, not only when their eye is on you and to curry their favor, but with sincerity of heart and reverence for the Lord.
Ephesians 6:5-9
Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart.
Leviticus 25:44-46
Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property. You can bequeath them to your children as inherited property and can make them slaves for life, but you must not rule over your fellow Israelites ruthlessly.
Might as well be good rules to follow when society forces ppl to live as slaves.
LOL! You've never read the Bible. You neither know nor care anything about it.
Now, which statement in this video did you disagree with, and upon what basis? Give the time stamp.
@@Yesica1993 All of it
Why there was not a 'thou shall not own another person' commandment (basically, have near or complete control over them with the right to mete out punishment for disobedience) is hard to understand. Seems God does not view that kind of relationship, on its own, 'oppressive' (and there was some variety in the exact nature of master-slave relationships). Otherwise, and even within that arrangement, He does, from what I see in Scripture, seem to view treating others as less than oneself as wrong (again, outside of the arrangement itself), even under Mosaic Law and certainly under the New Covenant.