I think it's pretty important that he also "teaches" us how to fix vcrs, crts, DVD players, ect. Almost everything I know about fixing vcrs I have learned from him. So thank you, 12Voltvids.
Since I own a 1988 Shintom/Funai built Sansui SVR-500U, I would guess that this sony mechanism was built by Shintom. The main clue being the pulley attached to the master cam that controls the eject sequence. Plus the double-geared idler was something found in early 1990s Shintom decks. Thank you for these great, informative videos.
Once had a combination Sony TV/VHS unit I bought from the Sony Store for the kids. When I took it in for repairs a few years later, the repairman said the VHS machine in the Sony combo unit was actually made by Goldstar. Always wondered about that.
Looks like that VCR laid a pretty fat goose egg. Using such delicate plastics in it shows us how Manufacturers really cut corners to boost their profit margins.
Back in the day we had a local supplier (Component Tecnology) that had VCR repair parts. I could get complete belt/idler kits for $5.00 and make a great profit on repairs. STK regulators for JVC were about $8.00 if I remember correctly. Unfortunately those days are gone.
We still have one out my way. Mail order only unfortunately. That adds shipping costs to every order which takes the profit our of repair. When customer says 40 limit and it costs 30 by the time the parts arrive for 10 bucks I am not wasting any time. People will say just raise your prices but it doesn't work that way. If someone says fix it up to 40 or 50, there is no going beyond that. They just walk away and abandon the unit. You should see the reaction I get when I tell people I need the assessment fee up front which I started doing. Half just walk away and scrap the unit on the spot. You wonder why all the shops closed.
Carriage mechs of japanese VCR's (probably this one was made in China) seem to be notorius of containing parts (metallic too) that don't seem to do a lot, but they are good in causing trouble. I removed before such a small part from an early 90's Funai (that we had), and that's what ultimatelly fixed the carriage jamming problem. It wasn't even needed! The belts in that Sony were just about to turn into goo.
Were the JVC VHS/DVD combo units made in July 2004 in Beijing China any better? HR-XVC26U, paid $12.99 for it at Goodwill, DVD is flaky, but I bought it for the VCR which seems to have low hours on it.
Sad, but educational. If only for the perspective on when it makes no sense to repair it. I think a lot of people hang on VCRs like this far too long overestimating the repair-ability and never consider the economics involved. Your experience and quick decision making are quite valuable. Its the sentimental and irrational component that causes people to toss these into the attic for years cluttering places up. - I wonder in Canada how you would dispose of VCR that was not working and unrepairable? A landfill or e-waste facility? Does anyone seriously recycle the components back into raw materials?
there is e-waste places places like best buy and staples use to take e-waste not sure if they still do. back in the old days people just toss stuff like that in the trash can.
This one will go in the bin, helping to drive up the cost of the ones that will be sought after in 30-40 years ;) In 30-40 years, simply for parts this thing will be worth a lot of money. I may start hoarding them. The same thing happened with reel to reel, even the ones knows to break (like my Akai) go for crazy amounts because there is such a high demand out there for any machine, working or not, for use in capturing granddads old music or maintaining the equipment used by a company that transfers. In 30 years or so there will be this generation seeing their parents leave this plane of existence and they will have that one tape, or find an attic full of tapes that never got transferred. Those tapes will heavily contaminate machines they go in but I'm sure that there will be plenty of demand to get that stuff off, and there will be few who can do it. Few working machines, few parts donors etc. The 51st rule of acquisition: "dont throw away the junk that people will be hunting for when you are looking at using your pension". Then again... 3D printers may get to the point where they can print a whole working VCR for next to nothing :D
@@dlarge6502 "don't throw away the junk that people will be hunting for when you're looking at using your pension". So with that criteria should I have kept my dad's 90s Panasonic VCR I threw away some years ago that had a busted video head? NO! It's just not possible dude. Keep what's saveable, toss away what's not. You may not be alive in the next 30 years, why hold on to literal e-waste?
People won't be hunting for this stuff in 30-40 years from now. People will have all their family tapes already transferred to digital by then. The lifespan for these magnetic media is very short (20-25 years). There're many, many tapes that have started to degrade by now. Imagine in 30-40 years from now... Besides, we're talking junk decks here. The only ones worth keeping are the high end S-VHS decks.
I serviced one once when the C clip had come off causing the whole idler assembly to come off and the cassette wouldn't even "seat" properly. Never fell out of the housing though.
On a belt driven stir plate I once had, I had luck rejuvenating the belt by heating it up with a heat gun. It was somewhat of a thick belt though, maybe that's why it worked.
Firms have to charge just to strip something as complicated as this though, just to be able to say it's not worth fixing, folk cannot deal with that, sometimes, but you can't do that for free, it's a case of do you want me to go any further. Even putting it all back together takes time and costs money, how did you ever cope with that if you had two or three junk machines in a day?
Well that's why I don't do this anymore. I left the business in 2003 for that very reason. No money in it. I don't charge for these uneconomical units, because I make something off the video that results. This is my machine now so perhaps I will revisit it and try to cob something together and see if I can make it work with some duck tape and crazy glue.
Yeah, there is also at least one newer iteration of this mechanism Sony used in their VHS decks that uses only one belt. The very late sonys (like 2001 and newer) on the other hand are fully made by Samsung as far as I know and are even more cost-reduced. Those late-model sonys before they switched to samsung are actually more sturdily built than most of their contemporaries tho of course pretty much all VCRs from the mid 90s and on are very cost-reduced so that doesn't mean they were all that solid compared to older decks.
You have an emergency alert on your phone? Edit: Wow, just looked it up. We have nothing like that in the UK. If there was some kind of emergency in an area an SMS might be sent out to all in the relevant cells but most people would probably think its a scam SMS :D But what normally will happen is radio and TV will broadcast anything important.
This is a test of the emergency broadcorping casteration. If this had been an actual emergency you would receive no notification of the inbound tsunami. One phone went off about 8 times in a row and the other one did not. Go figure.
We get them all the time in Texas. Scared the living daylights out of me with my first Smart phone while I was driving. They send them out for everything, floods, hail, tornados, earthquake tremors, amber alert (child kidnappings), silver alert (lost old people) virtually any excuse under the moon or sun. They wake you up all hours of the night. Only option is to silence them or go insane.. they've made them worthless and a public hazard now. They have No Volume control and they make them available to any organization without review. Anti-discrimination laws basically threw them into chaos. If they follow suit up there they will be getting out of control soon.
i Think my 7350 Panasonic has this earth problem! it was fine before putting it in the loft as never used it, but got back into tapes and want to use it for its hifi stereo audio recording, the audio is perfect record and playback, its just the picture, i cleaned the heads and improved a little but still un-watchable when it used to play fine before.
@@theannoyedmrfloyd3998 My cellphone is never turned off. It sits on the wireless charger on my night table and wakes me up in the morning. (Secondary alarm clock)
For most people, this is probably accurate.. but fear of missing out.. or tossing out a virtual.. 'member of the family'.. causes them to bury them in the attic. In other cases it may be not knowing the legal or appropriate, or responsible way to dispose or or recycle one.. I think a lot of 'self guilt' over possibly doing the wrong thing with the broken chassis leads to inaction, or putting off the decision indefinitely. Eventually it becomes more difficult to think about as we get older.. and we start rationalizing reasons to keep something around we would never acquire in its broken state in the first place. It becomes part of our personal landscape.. and another brick in the clutter wall.
@@theannoyedmrfloyd3998 As I said. Be my guest. I will never do this. There would have been about 20 bucks in it to fix one of these. I have tried 3d printed parts before and they broke. If the owner abandons this when he picks up his betamax i may try something with some type of glue to see if I can get that piece to go back where it belongs just to see if i can get it to work but not on a paid repair because those are the ones that come back to bite you.
VHS really is a dead format. There isn't any novelty value to it even to the degree the 8-track tapes have. They to release new content on retired formats, but when it comes to VHS, it's like, why? It was totally awesome back in the day, but the grain and time-base distortion next to digital clarity just doesn't seem to have any novel value to it. I could be wrong, but while wow and flutter can give character to audio, putting up with time-base distortion would just seem to be annoying.
There is a certain novelty to what (you can't see) on the Tapes. The Vertical Blanking intervals will have digitally encoded data in the analog signals for Program Information, Electronic Program Guides, Teletext and Close Captioning.. among other things like time and date values. I hear all the time about recovering Close Captioning data for deaf people.. that diverges or is a better description of the story on screen as if it were literature. Teletext and other method also encode things like Software programs or anything literally.. you could encode Bitcoin strings if they wanted too.. or some clandestine Cold War spy communications. I could see a Tom Clancy Spy Novel hinging on some Cold War Scientists formula for Fusion, or plots to Invade the Planet from Outer Space encoded on VHS tape. I think a Doctor Who Episode "Blink" used VHS tape to communicate across Time... that's really not that far fetched if you think about it.
Not what i would expect from sony, bottom of the dustbin quality :-( I laughed at the belts, the manufacturing was way off, but not as bad as the black treacle of death :-D.
Sony Betamax: The small black loading gear breaks. Sony VHS: The blue loading gear for the P2 guide breaks. Sony Hi8: The gear on the take-up hub breaks. Jesus...
@@crashbandicoot4everr So you are saying some models are dodgy lol :-D Sounds like sony never got the material right, some people would say they did that on purpose, i would not be supprised.
@@zx8401ztv Their 710 chassis (SL-5000/C6) series of machines look much better built than the 711 chassis decks. I would love to get my hands on a 710 deck.
Ofcourse we enjoy watching you putting it back together . After all isn't that what this awesome channel's about !
I think it's pretty important that he also "teaches" us how to fix vcrs, crts, DVD players, ect.
Almost everything I know about fixing vcrs I have learned from him. So thank you, 12Voltvids.
Well Done Mate ! love all your repair videos
Since I own a 1988 Shintom/Funai built Sansui SVR-500U, I would guess that this sony mechanism was built by Shintom. The main clue being the pulley attached to the master cam that controls the eject sequence. Plus the double-geared idler was something found in early 1990s Shintom decks. Thank you for these great, informative videos.
i watched right to the end your spent time makeing a video i spent time to watch it thanks
This Sony's tape mechanism looks like original VHS . Pinch roller doesn't move vertically anymore. And stay close to the cassette hole.
It's my machine now. Will take a stab at frankenloader and see if I can get it to work.
Another great job !
Did you hear the canada eas in the background
I had the 1st. vcr from JVC in Chicago! Traded a water bed for it! 1979
Very soothing to watch.
Once had a combination Sony TV/VHS unit I bought from the Sony Store for the kids. When I took it in for repairs a few years later, the repairman said the VHS machine in the Sony combo unit was actually made by Goldstar. Always wondered about that.
Looks like that VCR laid a pretty fat goose egg. Using such delicate plastics in it shows us how Manufacturers really cut corners to boost their profit margins.
Back in the day we had a local supplier (Component Tecnology) that had VCR repair parts. I could get complete belt/idler kits for $5.00 and make a great profit on repairs. STK regulators for JVC were about $8.00 if I remember correctly. Unfortunately those days are gone.
We still have one out my way. Mail order only unfortunately. That adds shipping costs to every order which takes the profit our of repair. When customer says 40 limit and it costs 30 by the time the parts arrive for 10 bucks I am not wasting any time. People will say just raise your prices but it doesn't work that way. If someone says fix it up to 40 or 50, there is no going beyond that. They just walk away and abandon the unit. You should see the reaction I get when I tell people I need the assessment fee up front which I started doing. Half just walk away and scrap the unit on the spot. You wonder why all the shops closed.
Carriage mechs of japanese VCR's (probably this one was made in China) seem to be notorius of containing parts (metallic too) that don't seem to do a lot, but they are good in causing trouble. I removed before such a small part from an early 90's Funai (that we had), and that's what ultimatelly fixed the carriage jamming problem. It wasn't even needed!
The belts in that Sony were just about to turn into goo.
Were the JVC VHS/DVD combo units made in July 2004 in Beijing China any better? HR-XVC26U, paid $12.99 for it at Goodwill, DVD is flaky, but I bought it for the VCR which seems to have low hours on it.
Sad, but educational. If only for the perspective on when it makes no sense to repair it. I think a lot of people hang on VCRs like this far too long overestimating the repair-ability and never consider the economics involved. Your experience and quick decision making are quite valuable. Its the sentimental and irrational component that causes people to toss these into the attic for years cluttering places up. - I wonder in Canada how you would dispose of VCR that was not working and unrepairable? A landfill or e-waste facility? Does anyone seriously recycle the components back into raw materials?
there is e-waste places places like best buy and staples use to take e-waste not sure if they still do. back in the old days people just toss stuff like that in the trash can.
Recycle facility here.
This one will go in the bin, helping to drive up the cost of the ones that will be sought after in 30-40 years ;)
In 30-40 years, simply for parts this thing will be worth a lot of money. I may start hoarding them.
The same thing happened with reel to reel, even the ones knows to break (like my Akai) go for crazy amounts because there is such a high demand out there for any machine, working or not, for use in capturing granddads old music or maintaining the equipment used by a company that transfers.
In 30 years or so there will be this generation seeing their parents leave this plane of existence and they will have that one tape, or find an attic full of tapes that never got transferred. Those tapes will heavily contaminate machines they go in but I'm sure that there will be plenty of demand to get that stuff off, and there will be few who can do it. Few working machines, few parts donors etc.
The 51st rule of acquisition: "dont throw away the junk that people will be hunting for when you are looking at using your pension".
Then again... 3D printers may get to the point where they can print a whole working VCR for next to nothing :D
@@dlarge6502 "don't throw away the junk that people will be hunting for when you're looking at using your pension".
So with that criteria should I have kept my dad's 90s Panasonic VCR I threw away some years ago that had a busted video head? NO! It's just not possible dude. Keep what's saveable, toss away what's not. You may not be alive in the next 30 years, why hold on to literal e-waste?
People won't be hunting for this stuff in 30-40 years from now. People will have all their family tapes already transferred to digital by then. The lifespan for these magnetic media is very short (20-25 years). There're many, many tapes that have started to degrade by now. Imagine in 30-40 years from now... Besides, we're talking junk decks here. The only ones worth keeping are the high end S-VHS decks.
This is the same exact model that Brendan Pippin (aka Brendan’s Movie Corner) has. It works okay, but sometimes it had some issues.
11:31 i love the sounds of airplanes/sesnas in bc. Former beachcomber.
I serviced one once when the C clip had come off causing the whole idler assembly to come off and the cassette wouldn't even "seat" properly.
Never fell out of the housing though.
On a belt driven stir plate I once had, I had luck rejuvenating the belt by heating it up with a heat gun. It was somewhat of a thick belt though, maybe that's why it worked.
I have heard of boiling them in water as well. Not quite sure how long that would last, but it costs nothing to try.
When they are turning to mush this generally won't work.
All that mechanism and it fails because a toothpick plastic hinge.
And the belts of course.
Scary how much time can be spent on one little mechanism
Do you fix Teddy Ruxpins... I have some that need some work..... Keep these coming...
Firms have to charge just to strip something as complicated as this though, just to be able to say it's not worth fixing, folk cannot deal with that, sometimes, but you can't do that for free, it's a case of do you want me to go any further. Even putting it all back together takes time and costs money, how did you ever cope with that if you had two or three junk machines in a day?
Well that's why I don't do this anymore. I left the business in 2003 for that very reason. No money in it. I don't charge for these uneconomical units, because I make something off the video that results.
This is my machine now so perhaps I will revisit it and try to cob something together and see if I can make it work with some duck tape and crazy glue.
I’ve got a bunch of those Chinese belts from Amazon for my JVC VHS deck, maybe you could give it a shot to those ones too.
Front loader is broken too.
I bought two bags of them, square belts, off Amazon. Need to find the flat 8mm ones though.
Where is the mode switch on this machine ???
Its under the left black cam gear on the bottom side.
@@TheVCRKing I can not find it! :( I have another model sony vcr but with the same mechanism ! I hope in another video to show where the mode switch !
I finally found it ! in a more difficult place they could not put it !!!!!!!!!!!! >:(
17:59 Yes, you were right the first time, Shintom. But the electronics and the heads are made by Sony.
Yeah, there is also at least one newer iteration of this mechanism Sony used in their VHS decks that uses only one belt. The very late sonys (like 2001 and newer) on the other hand are fully made by Samsung as far as I know and are even more cost-reduced. Those late-model sonys before they switched to samsung are actually more sturdily built than most of their contemporaries tho of course pretty much all VCRs from the mid 90s and on are very cost-reduced so that doesn't mean they were all that solid compared to older decks.
I would say it's a Funai deck.
@@Vintaginside It's not a Funai
You have an emergency alert on your phone?
Edit: Wow, just looked it up. We have nothing like that in the UK. If there was some kind of emergency in an area an SMS might be sent out to all in the relevant cells but most people would probably think its a scam SMS :D
But what normally will happen is radio and TV will broadcast anything important.
This is a test of the emergency broadcorping casteration. If this had been an actual emergency you would receive no notification of the inbound tsunami.
One phone went off about 8 times in a row and the other one did not. Go figure.
We get them all the time in Texas. Scared the living daylights out of me with my first Smart phone while I was driving. They send them out for everything, floods, hail, tornados, earthquake tremors, amber alert (child kidnappings), silver alert (lost old people) virtually any excuse under the moon or sun. They wake you up all hours of the night. Only option is to silence them or go insane.. they've made them worthless and a public hazard now. They have No Volume control and they make them available to any organization without review. Anti-discrimination laws basically threw them into chaos. If they follow suit up there they will be getting out of control soon.
i Think my 7350 Panasonic has this earth problem! it was fine before putting it in the loft as never used it, but got back into tapes and want to use it for its hifi stereo audio recording, the audio is perfect record and playback, its just the picture, i cleaned the heads and improved a little but still un-watchable when it used to play fine before.
I do believe I heard in the beginning of the video the broadcast system for Canada
cell phones do that now to. gotta love when that dam thing goes off at 3 am.
Cell phone emergency alert test.
Who has their cellphone on at 3 a.m.?
@@theannoyedmrfloyd3998
My cellphone is never turned off. It sits on the wireless charger on my night table and wakes me up in the morning. (Secondary alarm clock)
@@theannoyedmrfloyd3998 Everybody...
Sounds like 3D printing to the rescue!
Be my guest.
Make him some parts!
Sometimes....even YOU have to write one off :)
This one will likely live again. It's mine now so I can Jerryrig it.
I got 2 warning alerts yesterday on both my phones
0:00 yooo alert ready
👍thanks
I had one just like that it broke down took it to be fix can't get parts now
For most people, this is probably accurate.. but fear of missing out.. or tossing out a virtual.. 'member of the family'.. causes them to bury them in the attic. In other cases it may be not knowing the legal or appropriate, or responsible way to dispose or or recycle one.. I think a lot of 'self guilt' over possibly doing the wrong thing with the broken chassis leads to inaction, or putting off the decision indefinitely. Eventually it becomes more difficult to think about as we get older.. and we start rationalizing reasons to keep something around we would never acquire in its broken state in the first place. It becomes part of our personal landscape.. and another brick in the clutter wall.
This is where 3-D printing replaces Unobtainium.
@@theannoyedmrfloyd3998
As I said. Be my guest. I will never do this. There would have been about 20 bucks in it to fix one of these. I have tried 3d printed parts before and they broke. If the owner abandons this when he picks up his betamax i may try something with some type of glue to see if I can get that piece to go back where it belongs just to see if i can get it to work but not on a paid repair because those are the ones that come back to bite you.
Cool..
VHS really is a dead format. There isn't any novelty value to it even to the degree the 8-track tapes have. They to release new content on retired formats, but when it comes to VHS, it's like, why? It was totally awesome back in the day, but the grain and time-base distortion next to digital clarity just doesn't seem to have any novel value to it. I could be wrong, but while wow and flutter can give character to audio, putting up with time-base distortion would just seem to be annoying.
There is a certain novelty to what (you can't see) on the Tapes. The Vertical Blanking intervals will have digitally encoded data in the analog signals for Program Information, Electronic Program Guides, Teletext and Close Captioning.. among other things like time and date values. I hear all the time about recovering Close Captioning data for deaf people.. that diverges or is a better description of the story on screen as if it were literature. Teletext and other method also encode things like Software programs or anything literally.. you could encode Bitcoin strings if they wanted too.. or some clandestine Cold War spy communications. I could see a Tom Clancy Spy Novel hinging on some Cold War Scientists formula for Fusion, or plots to Invade the Planet from Outer Space encoded on VHS tape. I think a Doctor Who Episode "Blink" used VHS tape to communicate across Time... that's really not that far fetched if you think about it.
NO Blue gear Dave
Not what i would expect from sony, bottom of the dustbin quality :-(
I laughed at the belts, the manufacturing was way off, but not as bad as the black treacle of death :-D.
Sony Betamax: The small black loading gear breaks.
Sony VHS: The blue loading gear for the P2 guide breaks.
Sony Hi8: The gear on the take-up hub breaks.
Jesus...
@@crashbandicoot4everr So you are saying some models are dodgy lol :-D
Sounds like sony never got the material right, some people would say they did that on purpose, i would not be supprised.
@@zx8401ztv Their 710 chassis (SL-5000/C6) series of machines look much better built than the 711 chassis decks. I would love to get my hands on a 710 deck.
@@crashbandicoot4everr Sony VHS (Made by Samsung in the 2000s): One of the Idler gears break.
👍👍👍
I despise this mechanism.
This is actually a pretty good mechanism. If you want to get to bad mechanisms, let me describe it in one word. FUNAI
@@TheVCRKing I disagree a d so does Dave those are one of the most reliable mechanisms ever made. JVC and Mitsubishe are the worst